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Title: Wisconsin Firefighters Join Protest With Sleep-In
Source: Huffington Post
URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/talya ... nsberg/post_1761_b_826509.html
Published: Feb 22, 2011
Author: Talya Minsberg
Post Date: 2011-02-22 15:08:46 by lucysmom
Keywords: None
Views: 49133
Comments: 53

When protests in Madison, Wisconsin broke out with Republican Governor Scott Walker's budget proposal, state firefighters immediately backed the public sector workers, who would be stripped of collective bargaining rights in the bill.

Never mind the firefighters, along with cops and state troopers, were exempt from the union busting legislation. They have been protesting since day one with their self described working "brothers and sisters" in the public sector.

Monday night, around sixty men and women marched from Madison's Fire Station #1 to the capitol with blankets, pillows and plenty of snacks to spend the night with fellow protesters on the hard marble floor of Wisconsin's capitol.

"We just couldn't stand by and let this happen to our brothers and sisters," Mahlon Mitchell, State President of the Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin (PFFW), said. "We are firefighters, we respond to emergencies, and we are responding to an emergency of the middle class,"

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#7. To: lucysmom (#0)

"We are firefighters, we respond to emergencies, and we are responding to an emergency of the middle class,"

Well stated.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-02-22   15:48:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Fred Mertz (#7)

I was impressed with that statement too.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-22   15:52:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lucysmom, Fred Mertz (#9)

I was impressed with that statement too.

A firefighters obligation is to his community and the safety of all the citizens, not a certain class of people you fookin morons.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-22   16:13:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ibluafartsky, lucysmom, Fred Mertz (#10)

A firefighters obligation is to his community and the safety of all the citizens, not a certain class of people you fookin morons.

The firefighters are not walking off the job. Those there are donating their free time for the union cause.

Union Strong!!!

Godwinson  posted on  2011-02-22   16:20:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Godwinson (#11)

The firefighters are not walking off the job.

The teachers have already. The firefighters are supporting a particular class of people, not the community.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-22   16:26:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ibluafartsky (#12)

The teachers have already. The firefighters are supporting a particular class of people, not the community.

By supporting middle class jobs they are supporting the future of all of us.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-02-22   16:46:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Godwinson (#13)

By supporting middle class jobs they are supporting the future of all of us.

It is stunning! Everybody is feeling the pinch. No one denies the middle class is an endangered species, and yet the middle class turns on those in the middle class willing to stand up and stop their decimation.

Gov. Walker and the Koch brothers must be rolling on the floor laughing themselves silly.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-22   19:49:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: lucysmom (#15) (Edited)

No one denies the middle class is an endangered species, and yet the middle class turns on those in the middle class willing to stand up and stop their decimation.

I've noted this irony going back to the demographics on Reagan's elections. I know people in their 80's living with their kids because of how the core of America's manufacturing was outsourced in the early and mid-80's, almost en masse, with Reagan's blessing.

Displaced workers never had a chance. The nations we compete against, re-train displaced workers. We say "Tough shit".

war  posted on  2011-02-22   20:55:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: war (#25)

NAFTA Caused the job destruction. I was always against that. I was a Perot voter in 92.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-22   21:06:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: A K A Stone (#30)

Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc.

NAFTA cost us less than 1MM manufacturing jobs.

war  posted on  2011-02-23   9:57:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#43. To: war, A K A Stone (#42) (Edited)

NAFTA cost us less than 1MM manufacturing jobs.

I think he means globalization aka free trade aka outsourcing....

I am against some of this ideology myself though it is based on values more than economics.

What I mean is that nations that hold similar laws and values with America should not be hindered by any trade barriers if they also reciprocate and open their markets to American goods in the same way.

So for example Canada and Germany and France and the UK and most of the EU would be allowed to trade tariff free in the USA. Let's call lit Level 1

Nations that also hold our values but restrict imports like Japan or South Korea would be hit with tariffs of some sort to correct that. Let's call that Level 2 - same values and respect for human rights - just not playing fair with their import policy.

Nations that are midway between free and fair and lawful and are struggling to get to a place we are in terms of respect for law and human rights like Mexico, Turkey and Russia would be level 3

Level 4 would be nations like China that fall short of our standards and while adopting our economic system are not adopting our human rights system.

Level 5 would be mostly third world nations that have only natural resources as exports and they would be treated on a case by case basis.

Level 6 would be nations like Cuba and Iran who we have embargoes on.

That's how I would do it.

This way it is not protectionist for the sake of protecting a weak industry. It allows fair competition between like minded and like structured nations and let the best one win - and that is a win win for all the Level 1 category.

It also rewards nations in the lower Levels by giving them a goal to seek improvements in labor relations (allowing for independent labor unions (band in China and non-existent in places like Russia) which for some reason stupid Republicans hate as evil) and human rights.

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