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Title: We Stand With Governor Scott Walker
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URL Source: http://www.szone.us/f87/update-grou ... d-governor-scott-walker-55848/
Published: Feb 21, 2011
Author: szone
Post Date: 2011-02-21 09:54:37 by no gnu taxes
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Views: 20926
Comments: 40

On our side Governor Scott Walker, a newly-elected GOP-controlled legislature and tens of thousands of tea party and AFP activists are working to balance the state budget by finally cutting spending and reining in sweetheart pensions and benefits enjoyed by government employees unions.

On the other side are a privileged class of liberal politicians and government unions demanding higher taxes and even more spending for themselves and their ideology - all while private sector unemployment still runs high.

It looked and felt like the government workers marches in Athens, Greece throughout the week as the Wisconsin government unions, augmented by union activists from around the nation and President Obama's Organizing for America, marched, chanted, banged drums, and jeered at anyone daring to support Governor Walker's policies.

Here's what Governor Walker's Budget Repair Bill that they're so angry about actually does:

* Ask government workers to pay half the cost of their pensions - still less than private employees pay for their pensions

* Ask government workers to pay 12% of their own health insurance premiums - the national average for the private sector is over 20%

* End collective bargaining for government unions for pensions and benefits. Allow bargaining only for raises that are less than inflation.

* End forced union dues, collected by the state. Union dues would become voluntary.

* Union members get to vote yearly on whether to keep their union. To stop these sensible reforms, the unions and their Democratic allies are pulling out all the stops. President Obama has even weighed in attacking Governor Walker. (As I told the crowd today, President Obama should stop worrying about Wisconsin and get to work on Washington's out-of-control federal budget.)

Democratic state senators are so desperate they have actually fled the state to stall a vote -- and are hiding out at a resort in Illinois. Can you imagine elected legislators being so beholden to special interest unions that they would flee the state? Have they no shame? (Wisconsin, by the way, has citizen recall of elected officials and I've heard petitions are already being circulated to kick the senators who have fled the state out of office.) Much is at stake because every other governor and every other legislature is watching what happens in Wisconsin. We have to win. Please stand with Scott Walker by signing our petition at www.StandWithWalker.com.

Know that we're on the ground here in Wisconsin. AFP and our allies are going all out to victory. We're pouring emails into the legislature, running radio ads and we're helping with rallies like the one today. We're going to win. Please share www.StandWithWalker.com with your friends, family, neighbors, Facebook friends, and Twitter followers. The stakes are too high to think this is someone else's fight. We need to send a strong message to the unions by winning in Wisconsin and taking these common sense reforms to every other state and the federal government. Today, we are all Wisconsinites. Please help spread the word about www.StandWithWalker.com.

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#2. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

The problem with the issues being addressed is irresponsible government that has perpetually lied to the unions and the PEOPLE whom are taxed to death about those lies.

Walker is just attempting to band-aid the problem. What is required are a pair of cojones not some political hot-aire from some two-bit on the knees governor. Here is an opinion: as an employed worker for ANY government entity ALL unions are banned and all earlier negotiated contracts with unions are null and void. Now, that is how to get things done.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-21   13:26:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: buckeroo, no gnu taxes (#2)

Walker is just attempting to band-aid the problem. What is required are a pair of cojones not some political hot-aire from some two-bit on the knees governor. Here is an opinion: as an employed worker for ANY government entity ALL unions are banned and all earlier negotiated contracts with unions are null and void. Now, that is how to get things done.

Hitler and the Commies had real balls then because they banned all labor unions when they came to power.

In fact the first thing dictators do when the come to power is not ban guns (that is a myth) they ban unions and opposition parties.

The independent and banned Solidarity labor union brought down communisim in Poland.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-02-21   13:31:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Godwinson (#3)

In fact the first thing dictators do when the come to power is not ban guns (that is a myth) they ban unions and opposition parties.

That's what America needs: somebody with real cojones. Where are they when you really need them?

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-21   13:44:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: buckeroo (#4)

That's what America needs: somebody with real cojones. Where are they when you really need them?

Thanks for confirming you anti-union types on the right are crypto-fascists.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-02-21   13:47:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Godwinson (#5)

Unions within private industry are fine. Unions within government entities are not; in fact, most government workers are not in a union at all so for those that have collective bargaining rights (maybe 20%) they act unfairly to the others.

But there is more. What has happened for decades with both of the two LYING_CHEATING_POLITICAL_PARTIES is that when they renegotiated benefit packages with unions, they did so against the will of the People. Those same bastards should be hung right after they are hot-tarred-and-feathered.

They have all lyed to the People and that is why you see governments across the USA in deep financial trouble which has lead to the woes we see today.

It could be time to apply for a machine-gun permit but I doubt there is time.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-21   14:00:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeroo (#6)

Unions within private industry are fine. Unions within government entities are not;

So so called conservatives who don't trust govt trust govt to deal with workers in a fair manner?

You so called govt distrusting conservatives are either confused or hypocrites.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-02-21   14:10:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Godwinson (#7)

You incorrectly label me as an "government distrusting conservative"; that is unfortunate because I am distrustful of all People even in private industry; please remember the bankers, Wall Street brokers and the real estate industries conspired to fraud the American People by creating this current depression indeed, government on all levels encouraged the practice.

And, it can't be fixed.

I am distrustful of EVERYONE, ANYWHERE and at ANYTIME. In today's world the continuing shenanigans are low quality, poor delivery and at a HUGE price to FUCK EVERYONE.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-21   14:21:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeroo (#8)

am distrustful of EVERYONE, ANYWHERE and at ANYTIME.

So why do you seek to neuter a check on govt power represented by Union's collective bargaining? Something is wrong with your thinking process - your logic.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-02-21   14:50:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Godwinson (#9)

Within private industry, I can choose to purchase a product or not based on any bias I have; to include unions.

Within government, as a taxpayer, all I have is a typical wasted vote that goes no where about ANYTHING. The last thing we need are unions with special priledges because they have some sort of sanctimonious power; unions in government should have been abolished years ago. It now time to break them all up everywhere.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-21   15:15:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeroo (#10)

Within government, as a taxpayer,

So why do you seek to neuter a check on govt power represented by Union's collective bargaining? Something is wrong with your thinking process - your logic.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-02-21   16:08:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Godwinson (#13)

So why do you seek to neuter a check on govt power represented by Union's collective bargaining?

Isn't that more of an issue with your way of thinking? Government power can be handled by the vote or as an employee, it can be handled by finding a new job; governmnet employees should not belong to unions, PERIOD; collective bargaining is a serious problem when each employee can fully represent themselves within the already HUGE bureacracies of government.

Government services are for the People that pay for those services not the other way around.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-21   16:22:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: buckeroo (#15)

Government power can be handled by the vote

Really? Then why do the right think that they need to be armed in case they need to take down the evil govt if all it takes is vote?

Godwinson  posted on  2011-02-21   17:56:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#18. To: Godwinson (#17) (Edited)

Because the possession of a firearm is [a] right of the People fully embellished in time by the US Constitution and laws on all levels of government (with minor annoyances) for about 235 years.

Collective bargaining by union thugs in a government job and elected politicians agreeing with the same is the best example I can give for the Second Amendment; these guys abridged the will of the People.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-21 18:04:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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