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Title: Libya protests: Gaddafi's son warns of civil war
Source: bbc
URL Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12520586
Published: Feb 20, 2011
Author: unattributed
Post Date: 2011-02-20 20:23:57 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 4416
Comments: 6

Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's son, Sayf al-Islam, has warned of civil war in the country.

He said that the government would "fight to the last bullet" to stay in office.

In a TV address to the nation broadcast as anti-government protests spread to the capital Tripoli, he admitted that the military had over-reacted against protesters.

But he accused opposition groups and Islamists of trying to break up Libya.

He played down casualties, suggesting that at most 14 people, not 200, died in clashes in the eastern city of Benghazi.

And he promised "reform and democracy", saying that Libya's legislative forum would meet on Monday.

Heavy gunfire could be heard across Tripoli on Sunday evening, and witnesses spoke of tear gas and live ammunition being used against protesters by the security forces. Continue reading the main story Analysis image of Jon Leyne Jon Leyne BBC Middle East correspondent

That was one of the strangest political speeches I think I've every sat through.

He was completely and utterly detached from the reality of what is going on in his country.

To put it bluntly, most Libyans will just treat it as gibberish - it was completely meaningless to them.

The idea that they're somehow going to sit down and have a national dialogue with a government that's brought in foreign mercenaries to shoot at them is laughable.

Colonel Gaddafi is the Arab world's longest-serving leader, having ruled the oil-rich state since a coup in 1969.

The Middle East region is seeing a wave of pro-democracy protest, fuelled by the fall of Egypt's Hosni Mubarak on 11 February, and long-time Tunisian President Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali in January

'Drunkards and thugs'

Urging Libyans to "stop the bloodshed and stand as one for Libya", Sayf Gaddafi said they had a "real chance of reform and democracy".

He praised his father, saying he was not like Mr Mubarak and had received thousands of calls from people willing to come to Libya and defend him.

"Some people" had been killed, he conceded, but foreign media were exaggerating the violence and reports of high death tolls were "imaginary", he said.

Troops had opened fire on protesters because they were not trained to handle civil unrest, he argued.

He accused "opposition elements" living abroad of trying to initiate an Egypt-style Facebook revolution in Libya.

"They have started a campaign to bring Libya to a point reached by Egypt and Tunisia," he said.

"Security forces have pre-empted this and arrested some of the people involved. A few people have died and violence against the police has escalated... This is what happened in Benghazi."

He warned of the threat of civil war, saying "everyone" in the country was armed and, if war started, Libyans would be "mourning hundreds and thousands of casualties".

He confirmed that protesters had seized control of some military bases and tanks in eastern Libya, and said "drunkards and thugs" were driving tanks about the streets.

He also said that "African mercenaries" were being used against the government - a charge protesters have made against the government itself. 'Grave concern'

In comment released before Sunday night's speech by Sayf Gaddafi, the US state department said it was "gravely concerned with disturbing reports and images coming out of Libya".

UK Foreign Secretary William Hague told the Libyan leader's son in a phone call of London's "grave concern" at the escalation of violence.

Verifying information from Libya has been difficult amid a government clampdown on the internet and media communications. Libyan authorities have imposed severe media restrictions.

But by Sunday evening, reports suggested that anti-government forces in Benghazi had largely won control of the city after days of brutal suppression by government forces.

Unconfirmed reports said a military garrison there had either fallen to the opposition, or switched sides.

In Tripoli, people could be heard chanting slogans calling for the toppling of the regime on Sunday.

Credible reports suggested that a police station had been burnt down and a building belonging to the country's ruling party had also been attacked and set ablaze.

In the Gourghi area of the city, witnesses said tear gas and live ammunition were used against anti-government protesters. Tear gas was said to have filled the entire neighbourhood, with those sitting outside their homes forced to to go inside.

The area around Tripoli's largest university was said to be dominated by anti-government protesters calling for the fall of the regime.

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

A spokesman for the network said whoever was causing the interference must be using large outstations to simultaneously interfere with several platforms on the two orbital positions of Arabsat and Nilesat.

"We have set up alternative frequencies for viewers and are investigating the source of the problem, though cooperation would be needed from governments to precisely determine this," said the network.

"We believe that whoever is doing this is operating with sophisticated and large equipment."the Zionist news machine going deaf and dumb as per usual. They don’t have to lie about things, all they have to do is not report the news. A simple thing. Peaceful protests work only if the media carries the news and interviews the victims of state violence. When the media runs the other way or, like with Assange, go on pit bull frontal attacks, they do this to protect the Real Rulers.

Ex Amanpour/ABC saying the reason we're not getting info out of Lybia- 'The people not as sophisticated...

BULLSHIT

When the US MSM breaks to say that marines have arrived in Tripoli....

Remember the MArine Chant?:

...to the Shores of Tripoli?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-02-21   8:17:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

At the same time, the younger Gadhafi appeared to concede that the eastern half of the nation was lost, and offered some decentralization if they returned it to the regime. He also warned the protesters that if they continued they’d need passports to visit the western part of the country, which is still mostly under regime control.

But Gadhafi, who was confirmed to have talked to British Foreign Secretary William Hague right before his address, also said that the US and Britain would never allow a free Libya and that if the nominally pro-West Gadhafi regime fell they could count on an imminent US invasion and Iraq-style occupation.

The Britisah Foreign Office confirmed talks with Gadhafi, and said Hague urged the regime to start “dialogue and reforms,” which seems like a bad joke after hundreds have been killed.

http://news.antiwar.com/2011/02/20/gadhafis-son-warns-protesters-of-us-occupation/

And a BTW, when this really gets hot like the Invasion of Iraq, I stop posting sources, because the source sites get blocked.

Just sayin' 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-02-21   8:21:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Like this:

"Revolution comes to Libya?

UPDATE: Al Jazeera is reporting that the US State Department has said that is studying Saif Qaddafi's speech for "prospects for reform." If that's accurate, that's possibly one of the dumbest things out of the State Department throughout this whole regional uprising. The most recent official statement I could find is the same old boilerplate about calling on the Libyan government to uphold their "commitment to protecting and safeguarding the right of peaceful protest."

The USEmpire is being dismantled in front of our eyes.

I haven't even checked financial sites yet.

In days......

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-02-21   8:23:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3)

I note the McGovern Story hasn't made it to LF.

Get ready for US praetorian guard stories.

Like Ray Davis in Pakistan. Another of the US satraps about to be lost.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-02-21   8:24:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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www.theoilage.com/post15498.html#p15498

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-02-21   8:38:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: All (#5)

youtube from ALJ BLog Lybia:

They're celebrating Fire Truck in the background) 160 miles from Tripoli.

I wonder if Hillary really thinks there's a problem. ;}

Surrounded by Zionists that she is.

Israel in more trouble than since 1948:

Uri Avnery:

"Ordinary Israelis know next to nothing about Islam and the Arab world. As a (left-wing) Israeli general answered 65 years ago, when asked how he viewed the Arab world: “through the sights of my rifle.” Everything is reduced to “security,” and insecurity prevents, of course, any serious reflection.

This attitude goes back to the beginnings of the Zionist movement.

Its founder – Theodor Herzl – famously wrote in his historic treatise that the future Jewish state would constitute “a part of the wall of civilization” against Asiatic (meaning Arab) barbarism. Herzl admired Cecil Rhodes, the standard-bearer of British imperialism. He and his followers shared the cultural attitude then common in Europe, which Eduard Said later labeled “Orientalism.”

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-02-21   8:49:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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