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Title: 29.4 of Milwaukee Teachers Send Their Kids To Private Schools
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Washington Times
URL Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news ... /20040922-122847-5968r/?page=1
Published: Feb 20, 2011
Author: staff
Post Date: 2011-02-20 17:16:41 by jwpegler
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Views: 11047
Comments: 10
More than 25 percent of public school teachers in Washington and Baltimore send their children to private schools, a new study reports. Nationwide, public school teachers are almost twice as likely as other parents to choose private schools for their own children, the study by the Thomas B. Fordham Institute found. More than 1 in 5 public school teachers said their children attend private schools. In Washington (28 percent), Baltimore (35 percent) and 16 other major cities, the figure is more than 1 in 4. In some cities, nearly half of the children of public school teachers have abandoned public schools. In Philadelphia, 44 percent of the teachers put their children in private schools; in Cincinnati, 41 percent; Chicago, 39 percent; Rochester, N.Y., 38 percent. The same trends showed up in the San Francisco-Oakland area, where 34 percent of public school teachers chose private schools for their children; 33 percent in New York City and New Jersey suburbs; and 29 percent in Milwaukee and New Orleans. Michael Pons, spokesman for the National Education Association, the 2.7-million- member public school union, declined a request for comment on the study’s findings. The American Federation of Teachers also declined to comment. Public school teachers told the Fordham Institute’s surveyors that private and religious schools impose greater discipline, achieve higher academic achievement and offer overall a better atmosphere. “Across the states, 12.2 percent of all families — urban, rural and suburban — send their children to private schools,” says the report, based on 2000 census data. “Public education in many of our large cities is broken,” the surveyors conclude. “The fix? Choice, in part, to be sure.” Public school teachers in Philadelphia, Cincinnati, Chicago, Rochester, N.Y., and Baltimore registered the most dissatisfaction with the schools in which they teach. “These results do not surprise most practicing teachers to whom we speak,” say report authors Denis P. Doyle, founder of a school improvement company, SchoolNet Inc.; Brian Diepold, an economics graduate student at American University; and David A. DeSchryver, editor of the Doyle Report, an online education policy and technology journal. “Teachers, it is reasonable to assume, care about education, are reasonably expert about it and possess quite a lot of information about the schools in which they teach. We can assume that no one knows the condition and quality of public schools better than teachers who work in them every day.” “They know from personal experience that many of their colleagues make such a choice [for private vs. public schools], and do so for good and sufficient reasons.” The report says the school choice movement has begun competitively forcing public school improvement, particularly in cities like Milwaukee, called “a hotbed of school reform,” where 29.4 percent of public school teachers sent their children to private schools, the study finds. “Narrow the search to teachers making less than $42,000 and the percentage enrolling their children in private schools drops to 10 percent. Because Milwaukee is a hotbed of school reform, it’s possible that teachers making less than $42,000 are beginning to favor the public school system.” “If so, it might be evidence that choice is having the intended effect of spurring improvements in public education there. Or perhaps the emergence of [public school] charters has provided another free option to lower-income teachers who might otherwise choose private schooling.”
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#1. To: All, capitalist eric, go65 (#0)
Now we know why teachers need a raise. So they can remove their own children from the schools they themselves teach in. ROTFLMAO..... This is a huge indictment of the rotten government monopoly school system.
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My wife taught in public schools, and she wanted to send our kids to a private school. Not because of the quality of the teachers, but because many public schools are filled with kids who don't want to learn and who disrupt the education of others. Schools are largely powerless to remove such kids. She spent at least 50% of her non-teaching time dealing with disciplinary issues. Last week I had dinner with an elementary school teacher in a poor area, he had some pretty depressing stories to tell about the kids he has to deal with, and their parents.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
Why can you not see that is problem rational people have with those who condone and support socialism, they have no problem milking the system for huge wages and benefits while knowing they are participating in a failed societal construct. Shame on you and her for propping up the government nanny that you damned well know is destroying our society.
My wife taught in public schools, and she wanted to send our kids to a private school. Not because of the quality of the teachers, but because many public schools are filled with kids who don't want to learn and who disrupt the education of others. Schools are largely powerless to remove such kids. She spent at least 50% of her non-teaching time dealing with disciplinary issues. The question is why are they powerless to fix it? People just roll over and say this is the way it is. We can't remove disruptive kids. We can't fire lousy teachers. It's just the way it is and we have to put up with it regardless of whether or not it destroys the good kids and ultimately the country. I reject that. Everyone today knows that there needs to be fundamental reform in the schools. Everyone but the leaders of the NEA and their stooges in the Democrat party. That doesn't mean all Democrats. There are a lot of Democrats who have great ideas for fixing the schools. They have an uphill battle against their party's establishment and the NEA too. The American government, at all levels, is really, really broken. It's broken because there are vested interests who refuse to change with the times. You voted for Ron Paul. You and I agree on foreign policy. We also agree on the national sales tax. You have just told me that there is a problem in the public schools. Why can't we get together and fix it??? Why???
Because of a couple of things: - teachers can only refer students to the administrators - parents threaten to sue if their kids are expelled. I suspect our views on school reform aren't all that far apart.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
How much did Republicans and George W. Bush throw toward "LNCB"?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
LOL!! My God, are you stuck on stupid? You are arguing political factions when all the factions are working the socialist scam on you. Get your head out of your arse.
WTFs fault is that?
That's B.S. and you know it. The NEA is one of the most powerful organizations in the country. Teachers walk out of schools and call in sick all of the time. Look what's happening in Wisconsin. BUT the NEA never does this for the kids. They only do this to line their pockets with more taxpayer's money. That's the problem. And you know it.
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#2. To: All, aka stone (#1)
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#3. To: jwpegler (#1)
Now we know why teachers need a raise. So they can remove their own children from the schools they themselves teach in.
#4. To: go65 (#3)
My wife taught in public schools, and she wanted to send our kids to a private school. Not because of the quality of the teachers, but because many public schools are filled with kids who don't want to learn and who disrupt the education of others. Schools are largely powerless to remove such kids. She spent at least 50% of her non-teaching time dealing with disciplinary issues.
#5. To: go65 (#3)
(Edited)
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#6. To: jwpegler (#5)
The question is why are they powerless to fix it?
You voted for Ron Paul. You and I agree on foreign policy. We also agree on the national sales tax. You have just told me that there is a problem in the public schools. Why can't we get together and fix it???
#7. To: eskimo (#4)
(Edited)
Why can you not see that is problem rational people have with those who condone and support socialism, they have no problem milking the system for huge wages and benefits while knowing they are participating in a failed societal construct. Shame on you and her for propping up the government nanny that you damned well know is destroying our society.
#8. To: go65 (#7)
How much did Republicans and George W. Bush throw toward "LNCB"?
#9. To: go65 (#3)
Schools are largely powerless to remove such kids.
#10. To: go65 (#6)
(Edited)
teachers can only refer students to the administrators...
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
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