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The Greatness of Charlie Kirk: An Eyewitness Account of His Life and Martyrdom Status: Not Logged In; Sign In United States News See other United States News Articles Title: The Fundamental Difference Between Private and Public Unions Source: Dissenting Opinions URL Source: http://jwpegler.blogspot.com/2011/0 ... ifference-between-private.html Published: Feb 20, 2011 Author: jwpegler Post Date: 2011-02-20 13:42:24 by jwpegler Keywords: None Views: 16730 Comments: 29 I grew up in Detroit. I make a huge distinction between industrial worker unions like the UAW and Teamsters on the one hand and government bureaucrats unions like the NEA on the other hand. The NEA funnels compulsory union dues into political campaigns to essentially elect their own bosses. The politicians who benefit from this refuse to make any changes whatsoever in the horrible school systems no matter how bad they get. Milwaukee teachers earn on average for $100,000 a year in salary and benefits. What do we get for it? 32% of kids in Milwaukee never graduate high school. Many of those who do "graduate" are functional illiterates who can't read, write, or perform simple arithmetic. American cannot remain a prosperous country with our awful school system. This has to change. It will never change as long as the NEA and AFSCME own the Democrat Party. FDR himself was against government workers unionizing. He was right. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 20. #2. To: jwpegler (#0) What do we get for it? 32% of kids in Milwaukee never graduate high school. Many of those who do "graduate" are functional illiterates who can't read, write, or perform simple arithmetic. So then you expect teachers to solve all social/economic problems? Overall, though, given Milwaukee’s child poverty rate, income levels, andadult educational levels, the test scores found for Milwaukee are higher thanone would expect. The scores compare especially well with those cities thatmost closely resemble Milwaukee on these variables. These findings also suggest that the work of improving the educationalprospects for Milwaukee schoolchildren does not belong to MPS alone. The schooldistrict is in some respects already doing better than expected; what it mayneed most is appreciation for what it has done, a challenge to continue toimprove its performance, and perhaps most of all, for other institutions in thecommunity to do their part in alleviating the conditions of poverty, poor adulteducational attainment, and racial isolation that afflict the environment inwhich the schools operate. A Comparison Of The Performance Of The Milwaukee Public Schools And School Systems In Selected Other Cities, by Gerald W. Bracey lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-20   13:55:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: lucysmom (#2) (Edited) So then you expect teachers to solve all social/economic problems? I expect a competitive marketplace to produce quality products. Any company that doesn't produce quality products either changes to do so or winds up out of business. The public schools are coercive government monopolies. They produce a lousy product and refuse change because their business and jobs are not a risk from competitors. I don't expect you to understand this, because you are not too bright. Americans are started to get it, including a fair number on the left (see the movie "Waiting for Superman" for evidence of this). jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-20   14:03:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: jwpegler (#4) I don't expect you to understand this, because you are not too bright. Americans are started to get it, including a fair number on the left (see the movie "Waiting for Superman" for evidence of this). "Are starting to get it?" Please! These arguments have been going on for more than half a century - I remember them from my own childhood. As for not too bright - well dude I don't have to resort to personal attacks to make an argument. What's wrong with education in the US is that all sides are more interested in who is right and proving their point than in cooperating to improve outcomes and actually caring about the children involved. Rather than waste time assigning blame this woman actually did something: Twelve years ago, the self-employed real estate agent stood before a class of 23 students at Brookfield Elementary in Oakland and told them she would pay their way through college if they would stay in school and hold onto their dreams. snip Her message resonated with the students because Brown, 54, lives in the same struggling neighborhood as the children do. She comes from rural Mississippi, and knows the value of hard work. She became a second mother to the children she came to call "her babies." She bought them shoes and food when they were needy. She took them on college campus tours and field trips to the country. Now, all but four of the original students -- 19 [2 of the original 22 were killed] in all -- are enrolled in college. They are at schools such as San Francisco State University, Georgia Tech, Clark University and Merritt College. articles.sfgate.com/1999-...t-oakland-merritt-college The school system that saw a 75% drop out rate didn't change to achieve these results. lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-20   15:04:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: lucysmom (#6) because Brown, 54 She sounds like a generous lady. Good for her. There are a lot of bad teachers too though. There should be a way to deal with them. I'll add something else I haven't shared with anyone. My wife graduated from college last fall. She has a teaching degree. It is what she is passionate about. She loves kids. She will be a great teacher. She hasn't found a job yet. Being the middle of the school year makes it harder I suppose. I really hope she finds a job though. I'm not sure what all of these bills will accomplish. But something has to be done. I would like to see them go after public employees of the courts. They are assholes, all of them. There is this one named Carmen from Dayton Municipal court. She is a black lady. You ask her a question and she talks back at you real.....slow....talking......to........you........like.......you........are.......retarted. I asked her why my paper to go to court said date X and I was there on Date X but there was no record of me to be there. If I had the cunts last name I would post it. She is Carmen from dayton municipal court, Carmen from Dayton Municipal court, Carmen from Dayton municipal court, Carmen from Dayton municipal court. Fuck you cunt. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-20   15:21:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: A K A Stone (#9) (Edited) I'll add something else I haven't shared with anyone. My wife graduated from college last fall. She has a teaching degree. It is what she is passionate about. She loves kids. She will be a great teacher. People who have taken a serious look at this, like the Gates Foundation, believe that somewhere between 5% and 10% of current teachers need to be terminated. It's a small percentage, but they are dragging the entire system down. The problem is that the NEA and AFSCME owns the Democrat Party. Given the history of the last 30 or 40 years, it's obvious that nothing will change until that changes. Again, I'll take a Democrat idea (that the Gate's Foundation supports) -- turn every school into a Charter School. Give the Principal the authority to fire bad teachers and pay substantial bonuses to good ones (based on international test scores). If the Principal stinks, let the parents who have kids in the school fire him. If a specific Charter School doesn't improve, give the parents vouchers to send their kids to another school. This would go along way towards fixing the issues. jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-20   15:58:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: jwpegler (#19) Sounds pretty reasonable. I think they should be run like in Germany. I think it is Germany anyway. Anyway the school money follows the child to the school of the parents choosing. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-20   16:01:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 20.         There are no replies to Comment # 20. End Trace Mode for Comment # 20. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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