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Title: Top Five Myths about the Middle East Protests
Source: Juan Cole
URL Source: http://www.juancole.com/2011/02/top ... -the-middle-east-protests.html
Published: Feb 20, 2011
Author: Juan Cole
Post Date: 2011-02-20 11:04:36 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 2478
Comments: 8

5. Dear right wing blogosphere and also Bill Maher: You can’t generalize about women’s position in Muslim countries based on a reprehensible mob attack on CBS reporter Lara Logan. Generalizing about a whole group of people based on a single incident is called “bigotry.” It is also a logical fallacy (for wingnuts challenged by six syllables in a row, that means, ‘when your brain doesn’t work right’) known as the ‘Hasty Generalization.’ Nobody seems to note that allegedly helpless Egyptian women were the ones who saved Logan, or that Anderson Cooper was also attacked.

Some other examples of reporters or celebrities being assaulted by crowds are here and here. Wingnuts, and also Bill Maher, who do not immediately make generalizations on these bases about large groups of Westerners are wusses.

Note to Muslim-hater Bill Maher, who should know better: It is not true that women cannot vote in 20 Muslim countries, and please stop generalizing about 1.5 billion Muslims based on the 22 million people in Wahhabi Saudi Arabia, the only place where women cannot drive and where men can vote (in municipal elections) but women cannot. It would be like generalizing from the Amish in Pennsylvania to all people of Christian heritage and wondering what is with Christianity and its fascination with horses and buggies.

4. That the unrest in Bahrain is significantly caused by Iran is false. It is an indigenous protest of Arab Shiites who are treated like second class citizens in their own country. On Saturday night, the protesting crowds camped out in Pearl Square downtown, as their leaders consulted in preparation for talks with the government. Wikileaks cables show that the US government consistently discounted fear-mongering about Iran by the Sunni monarchy in Bahrain.

3. Yusuf Qaradawi, the 84-year-old preacher whose roots are in the old Muslim Brotherhood before the latter turned to parliamentary politics, is nevertheless no Ayatollah Khomeini. Qaradawi addressed thousands in Tahrir Square in Cairo on Friday. Qaradawi called for Muslims to fight the Taliban and al- Qaeda alongside US troops in 2001. On Friday he praised the Coptic Christian role in the Egyptian revolution and said that the age of sectarianism is dead. Qaradawi is a reactionary on many issues, but he is not a radical and there is no reason to think that either the Youth or Workers’ Movements that chased Hosni Mubarak out of the country is interested in having Qaradawi tell them what to do.

2. Looking to the Tunisian and Egyptian futures, it is not true, as dreary anti-Muslim Israeli propagandist Barry Rubin alleged, that Muslim fundamentalist parties always win free and fair elections in Muslim-majority countries. This frankly stupid allegation is disproved by the Pakistan elections of 2008, the Albanian elections of 2009, the Kurdistan elections in post-2003 Iraq, and all of the Indonesian elections.

1. Despite the importance of Facebook and Twitter as communication and networking tools, Labor unions and factory workers have been more important in the Arab uprisings than social media. In Libya, the regime’s attack on internet service did not forestall a major uprising on Saturday in Benghazi, which the regime met with deadly force.

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#1. To: mcgowanjm (#0)

Ping!

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-20   11:06:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: go65 (#1)

5. Dear right wing blogosphere and also Bill Maher: You can’t generalize about women’s position in Muslim countries based on a reprehensible mob attack on CBS reporter Lara Logan. Generalizing about a whole group of people based on a single incident is called “bigotry.”

I can't believe Maher would be stupid enough to do this.

Zionists just can't help themselves, eh?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-02-20   11:32:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#2)

"Who you gonna believe? Me or your lyin' eyes?"

Without ZOG, the Americans could have, and should have (to maintain any shred of credibility as an empire), at least abstained on the illegal Israeli settlements resolution. With ZOG, the American leaders had no choice but to make fools of themselves. Empires depend on the fact that they are widely regarded as being active movers of history, not passive spectators of what has already happened. It reminds me of the Egyptian curfews, each one completely ignored. If you can't back up your threats, you lose the ability to make threats. The Americans keep throwing their support behind despots who are then overthrown. Each despot is supposed to be 'different' than the last. Leaving aside the profound immorality of the American position, and the fact that the new regimes will always hate the United States, just think of how bad it looks for an empire to consistently bet on the wrong horse. The American Empire is going down with ZOG, and because of ZOG. xymphora.blogspot.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-02-20   11:36:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: go65 (#0)

WikiLeaks more important.

The two errors of Wikileaks:

1. underestimating the sheer venality of the CIA and its willing partners (e.g., the Swedish prosecutors) in dirty tricks; 2. overestimating the honor of today's 'journalists' in the hope of finding partners to manage the leaks.

Of course, we all await the Bank of America leaks, rendered all the more interesting by the Anonymous attack on HBGary.

Of course, just like with HBGary and the U. S. Chamber of Commerce, nothing will be done to Bank of America, no matter what the leaks show. Again, this is a feature, not a bug. The two-faced hypocrisy of how the legal system treats those in power needs to be showcased, over and over.

xymphora.blogspot.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-02-20   11:38:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#4)

Bottom Line.

The Mahgreb to the Levant to Turkey and the Arabian Peninsula have gone up like a spark to the Domino Sugar Factory.

That this region has been tortured into a freeze frame for 30 years of Reagan/Truman Doctrine is beyond dispute.

That it is erupting now shows that the region and the USEMpire are running out of cheap oil.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-02-20   11:41:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: go65 (#0) (Edited)

The situations in the countries experiencing protests in the middle east are all very different.

1.) Tunisia is a relatively wealthy country. The protests there are very similar to what happened in Chile and many Southeast Asian countries in the 80s and 90s -- people who got some amount of economic freedom finally demanded political freedom as well.

2.) Egypt is very poor and corrupt.

3.) Bahrain has is 2/3rd Shiite being ruled by a 1/3 Sunni population.

4.) Iran is run by religious tyrants.

There is one common thread -- most middle east countries have very young populations. They are restless. They are also on social media and understand more about the outside world than ever before.

Having direct contact with free people in North America and Europe is the catalyst for all of this. The stupid neo-commies have it wrong. The young people in the middle east don't hate our freedom. They envy it. They see the freedom that we have and it causes them to be furious with their own governments for denying it to them.

This is why embargoes, cutting off trade, and restricting travel is exactly the wrong policy when dealing with tyrants. We need to encourage more contact between Westerners and the oppressed peoples of the world. This includes Cuba. Once they see what we have, they won't stay silent any longer.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-20   12:52:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: jwpegler (#6)

Having direct contact with free people in North America and Europe is the catalyst for all of this. The stupid neo-commies have it wrong. The young people in the middle east don't hate our freedom. They envy it. They see the freedom that we have and it causes them to be furious with their own governments for denying it to them.

This is why embargoes, cutting off trade, and restricting travel is exactly the wrong policy when dealing with tyrants. We need to encourage more contact between Westerners and the oppressed peoples of the world. This includes Cuba. Once they see what we have, they won't stay silent any longer.

When you post stuff like this I'm wondering why you keep siding with the GOP so often.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-20   13:19:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: go65 (#7)

When you post stuff like this I'm wondering why you keep siding with the GOP so often.

Because I care more about the economy than anything else.

On the economy my choice in America is between cowardly Republicans and clueless Democrats.

In spite of that horrible choice between parties, there are huge differences between individuals in those parties, e.g., Rand Paul and Chuck Shumer, Jim DeMint and Barbara Boxer, Ron Paul and Barney Frank, Jim Colburn and Patty Murray, etc.

So, I can either give up or support the few good individuals that do manage to get elected. Right now, on economics the few good elected officials are Republicans.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-20   13:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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