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Title: Lavish Government Pensions Killing Post Office
Source: CNN Money
URL Source: http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/09/new ... onomy/postal_service/index.htm
Published: Feb 19, 2011
Author: Ben Rooney
Post Date: 2011-02-19 19:30:55 by jwpegler
Keywords: None
Views: 264740
Comments: 52

The U.S. Postal Service warned Wednesday that it may default on some of its financial obligations later this year after reporting yet another quarterly loss.

The USPS, a self-supporting government agency that receives no tax dollars, said it suffered a loss of $329 million in the first quarter of federal fiscal year 2011. That compared with a loss of $297 million a year earlier.

The agency has been suffering from an ongoing decline in mail volume, which has undercut revenues, while retiree health care costs have been straining its reserves.

Excluding costs related to retiree benefits and adjustments to workers' compensation liability, the Postal Service said it had net income was $226 million in the first quarter, which ended Dec. 31.

Despite ongoing cost-cutting efforts, the USPS said it expects to have a cash shortfall this year and to hit its federally mandated borrowing limit by September, when the government's fiscal year ends.

The agency said it will be forced to default on some of its financial obligations this year unless Congress changes a 2006 law requiring it to pay between $5.4 and $5.8 billion into its prepaid retiree health benefits each year.

"The Postal Service continues to seek changes in the law to enable a more flexible and sustainable business model," Patrick Donahoe, the Postmaster General, said in a statement. "We are eager to work with Congress and the administration to resolve these issues prior to the end of the fiscal year."

The Postal Service has taken a number of steps to increase revenue, including marketing initiatives and price increases. The agency raised rates an average of 3.6% in January.

It is also perusing more dramatic changes. Last year, the USPS submitted a request to the Postal Regulatory Commission, which oversees the agency, to eliminate Saturday mail service. The commission has yet to respond to the request, but a spokesman said it is in the "final phase" of making its decision.

The USPS has also cut back on hours to save money. The agency expects to eliminate 40 million work hours this fiscal year as part of a plan to save $2 billion.

However, the service is currently negotiating new contracts with the American Postal Workers Union and the National Rural Letter Carriers Association, which will probably object to cutting hours.

On the bright side, the Postal Service said improving economic conditions suggest the "worst of the precipitous volume decline during the recession is over." But mail volume continues to be anemic, rising only 1.5% in the first quarter as economic growth remains sluggish.

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#1. To: All, capitalist eric, go65 (#0) (Edited)

The Postal Service continues to seek changes in the law to enable a more flexible and sustainable business model

ROTFLMAO!!!

Here's the answer: sell it.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-19   19:31:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: jwpegler (#1)

Here's the answer: sell it.

Maybe the crew at AIG could run it better.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-19   19:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: lucysmom (#2) (Edited)

Maybe the crew at AIG could run it better.

You really are a spiteful whack job aren't you?

UPS, FedEx, DHL or one of the other successful parcel delivery companies will pick it up. If not, someone who wants to get into this business will.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-19   19:46:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: jwpegler (#0)

retiree health care costs have been straining its reserves.

Obviously the answer to that problem is to outlaw abortion.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-19   21:11:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: jwpegler (#1)

Here's the answer: sell it.

How many businesses do you know of that are forced by Congress to maintain unprofitable routes and services. Other than Amtrak and the Post Office, I'm not aware of any.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-19   21:13:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lucysmom (#2)

Maybe the crew at AIG could run it better.

Enron and AIG are the model for Jwpegler.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-19   21:14:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: jwpegler (#1)

Here's the answer: sell it.

The think the post office does a fine job. Even if they are subsidized by tax dollars. Everyone uses it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-19   21:23:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: jwpegler (#3)

You really are a spiteful whack job aren't you?

You resent the little people earning a decent living and call me spiteful?

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-20   1:28:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: jwpegler (#3)

You really are a spiteful whack job aren't you?

Were you expecting anything different from that particular regressive??

Did you note her attempt at "erudite-ity" in noting a von Mises quote?...fully unaware how she mocks her own regressive / statist positions with that very quote?

This tool possesses an almost unbearable lightness of (intellectual) being...surpassed only by junk like dwarf or gotobamaina69.

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e_type_jag  posted on  2011-02-20   1:48:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: jwpegler (#1)

Here's the answer: sell it.

Oh,BullBarack! Delivering the mail IS one of the thing government is obligated to do,and the government is the only organization that can do this. Privatize it and people in rural areas won't get mail because they won't be able to afford the rates.

Reduce the benefits to management and TOTALLY eliminate Affirmative Action hires and promotions and the problems will go away.

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sneakypete  posted on  2011-02-20   9:18:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: go65 (#6)

Enron and AIG are the model for Jwpegler.

No, Microsoft, Apple, Accenture, etc. are.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-20   14:20:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: sneakypete (#10) (Edited)

the government is the only organization that can do this

FedEx, UPS, DHL, Delivery Express, MDCS, and countless others would disagree with you. So would their customers.

The Post Office is the only organization that is ALLOWED BY LAW to put anything in your mailbox. So, the proper English language statement is that "the government is the only organization that may do this" because the government has granted itself a monopoly.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-20   14:24:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone, capitalist eric (#7) (Edited)

The think the post office does a fine job. Even if they are subsidized by tax dollars. Everyone uses it.

The only things that ever show up in my mail box are: A.) piles of taxpayer subsidized junk mail, B.) birthday and Christmas cards, and C.) the occasional bill from a government entity that is too stupid to sign up to accept PayPal or Credit Cards.

Email has killed first class mail. Who writes letters any more?

Most of what the post office does is deliver junk mail. They also try to compete with private companies in delivering packages, but who in the right mind stands in line for hours at the Post Office to send a package when you can zip in and out of a FedEx store in minutes???

The Post Office is more evidence that the government cannot and will not wake up to a changing reality -- in this case, that technology has made their Raison d'être (first class mail delivery) OBSOLETE.

The Post Office should be sold.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-20   14:33:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: jwpegler (#13)

the occasional bill from a government entity that is too stupid to sign up to accept PayPal or Credit Cards.

The government doesn't accept them because of the 3% service charge. If I want to pay my auto fees by credit card, I have to add that 3% in.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-20   14:41:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: jwpegler (#13)

but who in the right mind stands in line for hours at the Post Office to send a package when you can zip in and out of a FedEx store in minutes???

People who don't want to pay twice the price for FedEx versus Priority Mail.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-20   14:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: jwpegler (#13)

The Post Office should be sold.

I agree.

We The People  posted on  2011-02-20   14:43:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: We The People (#16)

The Post Office should be sold.

I agree.

I think the Chinese would be interested.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-20   14:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Skip Intro (#17)

I think the Chinese would be interested.

I doubt it. You've seen the numbers, right?

We The People  posted on  2011-02-20   14:46:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: We The People (#18)

I doubt it. You've seen the numbers, right?

The Post Office is more than numbers and mail. It collects passport information, for one. I'm sure that would be worth a lot the the Chinese.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-20   14:48:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: All (#0)

Family guy nails government agencies...


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-20   15:16:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Skip Intro (#14)

The government doesn't accept them because of the 3% service charge.

And???

My electric company takes credit cards. So does the gas company, internet company, and phone company. Even my trash company takes credit cards (yes, we have private trash collection where I live and it works orders of magnitude better than government run trash collection).

I can't pay my water bill on-line because it's run my the stinking government.

It's pitiful.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-20   15:22:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Skip Intro (#15)

People who don't want to pay twice the price for FedEx versus Priority Mail.

A.) It's not twice as much

B.) Time is money


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-20   15:25:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: jwpegler (#22)

I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. They are constitutional.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-20   15:30:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: jwpegler, lucysmom (#11)

Microsoft,

Microsoft? A company caught violating anti-trust law?

Accenture spun out of Arthur Anderson shortly before Anderson collapsed in the wake of the Enron scandal.

Thanks for reinforcing my point.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-20   15:33:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: jwpegler (#22)

A.) It's not twice as much

A) Bull

B) It takes me less time at the PO than it does at UPS or FedEX.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-20   15:38:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: go65 (#24) (Edited)

Accenture spun out of Arthur Anderson shortly before Anderson collapsed in the wake of the Enron scandal.

LOL.

I have first hand knowledge of this. I was a Vice President at one of Accenture's subsidiaries.

Anderson and Accenture were operating as separate companies for years. Arthur Anderson was an accounting firm. Accenture is a systems integration company. Anderson didn't spin Accenture out. The Accenture Partners revolted and pushed their way out of the company. Arthur Andersen collapsed shortly thereafter. Accenture had nothing whatsoever to do with Enron.

Yes, Microsoft and Accenture are two GREAT companies because they focus on their customers and generally do a great job for their customers. ditto for Apple.

Government bureaucrats don't understand the concept of a customer. That's the problem.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-20   15:39:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Skip Intro (#25)

It takes me less time at the PO than it does at UPS or FedEX.

In the Fantasy Land branch of the USPS?


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-20   15:42:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#23)

They are constitutional.

So was slavery.

We can always amend the Constitution to get rid of the mandate that the government operate a post office.

Regardless, the Constitution says nothing about the government monopolizing first class mail delivery. For a while, people did operate competitors to the post office's mail delivery service. The government passed laws to shut them down. Now, technology has made mail delivery nearly obsolete.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-20   15:45:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: jwpegler (#27)

In the Fantasy Land branch of the USPS?

No, it's not.

Apparently your wild generalizations don't apply everywhere. Grow up and deal with it.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-20   15:46:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: jwpegler (#28)

I would agree that if others want to deliver the mail they should be allowed to.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-20   15:47:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: jwpegler (#13)

Most of what the post office does is deliver junk mail. They also try to compete with private companies in delivering packages, but who in the right mind stands in line for hours at the Post Office to send a package when you can zip in and out of a FedEx store in minutes???

I have used FedEx, UPS, and USPS extensively in business. These days I rely entirely on the Post Office.

Who has to wait in line at the PO? You can print postage and schedule a package pick up all from the comfort of your own home.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-20   16:05:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: jwpegler (#26)

Yes, Microsoft and Accenture are two GREAT companies because they focus on their customers and generally do a great job for their customers. ditto for Apple.

I keep MS applications off my computer.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-20   16:09:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: lucysmom (#31) (Edited)

You can print postage and schedule a package pick up all from the comfort of your own home.

And it's cheaper, too. I do it all the time.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-20   16:09:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Skip Intro (#33)

And it's cheaper, too. I do it all the time.

And reliable.

So do I.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-20   16:12:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: lucysmom (#32)

You don't use windows?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-20   16:14:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#35)

No sir.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-20   16:14:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: lucysmom (#31) (Edited)

I have used FedEx, UPS, and USPS extensively in business. These days I rely entirely on the Post Office.

Who has to wait in line at the PO?

The last time I was at the Post Office was about a year ago. I needed to mail a small package overseas for personal reasons, not business. Someone told me mailing overseas is cheaper at the Post Office.

I waited in line for 45 minutes watching clerks take alternative coffee breaks while the customers lined up. I finally got frustrated and left.

I went to FedEx. I was done in 10 minutes.

To add insult to injury, FedEx is 4 miles from my house and the Post Office is 15 miles from my house. So I basically wasted a couple of hours on this for no reason.

I will never do it again.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-20   16:42:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: lucysmom, aka stone, capitalist eric, go65 (#32) (Edited)

I keep MS applications off my computer.

I worked for Microsoft for 8 years, prior to the 7 years I worked for the Accenture subsidiary.

Microsoft was a great company. Now they are a huge, lethargic bureaucracy. But they can still innovate -- the Microsoft Kinect is extremely cool and will usher in a new age of how people interact with technology. Microsoft also has strong enterprise products, but not across the board. SAP and Oracle both lead Microsoft in certain types of enterprise products like ERP and CRM systems.

Apple is kicking Microsoft's butt in the consumer space (outside of gaming X-Box and Kinect).

This is what's great about competition. Microsoft and Blackberry screwed the pooch in mobile so Apple and Google are taking their market share away. Oracle's CRM product got too fat, so SalesForce.com is eating their lunch. On and on.

When the government mandates monopolies, this kind of innovation is not possible. That's the point that you, go65 and especially Godwinson just don't understand. It makes me crazy that you don't understand it because it is so obvious.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-20   16:52:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: jwpegler (#38)

Microsoft was a great company. Now they are a huge, lethargic bureaucracy.

They may be a great company, but in the past, I've found their products don't deliver on the promise.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-20   17:37:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: jwpegler (#38)

When the government mandates monopolies, this kind of innovation is not possible.

What the government did in the case of Microsoft was ended their monopoly, allowing competition to thrive.

You seem to have no problem with monopolies.

Does this sort of thing bother you either?

http://www.infoworld.com/t/business/us-doj-joins-lawsuit-against-hp-sun-accenture-664

April 19, 2007

U.S. DOJ joins lawsuit against HP, Sun, Accenture

Suit alleges that the three companies formed an alliance with vendors and have been giving each other kickbacks on government contracts since the late 1990s.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-20   18:11:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: jwpegler (#12)

FedEx, UPS, DHL, Delivery Express, MDCS, and countless others would disagree with you. So would their customers.

Wrong twice. They would all LOVE to have the profitable big city deliveries,but would have to be subsidized beyond belief to provide mail delivery to the suburbs and rural areas.

I have tried DHL,FedEx,and UPS,and the post office is ALWAYS quicker and cheaper.

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sneakypete  posted on  2011-02-20   18:33:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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