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Title: Democrats flee Madison, Wisconsin (with police chasing them)
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://hillbuzz.org/2011/02/17/demo ... urtail-public-employee-unions/
Published: Feb 18, 2011
Author: hillbuzz
Post Date: 2011-02-18 15:27:17 by no gnu taxes
Keywords: None
Views: 15361
Comments: 27

Never in my life would I imagine Wisconsin would become the most fascinating state for politics, but that’s what it is right now as the newly elected Republican governor and legislature stand up to the public employee unions that are crippling that state financially.

This is not the Cocktail Party establishment playing go-along-to-get-along games…this is what Republicans need to do in every state, coast to coast.

Grow that spine. Stand up. Be heard. Sock it to the unions and the rest of the Democrat machine. Do not be afraid of bad media coverage or being called “big meanies” for doing what voters WANT you to do to get the country back on sound financial footing.

Democrats have actually fled the city of Madison, Wisconsin in contempt of a court order requiring them to do their elected duty and sit for a vote to curtail the power of Democrat-supporting public employee unions.

Police have actually been dispatched to hunt Democrats down so that a vote can be taken, since the legislature is required to have at least one Democrat present for a vote to be cast.

Democrats do not want to curtail union power, since union dues keep Democrats in power.

This simple fact has never been more clear…as is the reality that curtailing union power is the only way we will save this country from ruin.

Keep monitoring what’s happening in Wisconsin. If that state manages to liberate itself from union control, just imagine what strides can be taken in Arizona, South Carolina, and New Jersey, where other assertive and take-no-prisoners Republicans are in office.

Just think: the Cocktail Party establishment could have saved this country from the current predicament it’s in if only it had stood up to the unions a decade or two ago…but all of those GOP consultants advised them it was much better to “go along to get along”.

But look where that’s gotten us.

Do you know of any other good examples of newly elected Republicans showing some toughness towards former sacred cows and the various apparatuses Democrats depend on to keep their political contributions flowing (at ultimate net financial detriment to state budgets)?

Could a revolution of sorts be now underway with Republicans who have actually broken away from their Cocktail Party establishment ways?

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#1. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

I guess there wasn't room for the rest of the title: "so vote can’t be taken to curtail public employee unions"

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-18   15:30:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Skip Intro, no gnu taxes (#1)

My money is on the outlaws!! FIGHT THE TYRANNICAL REPUBLICAN GOVT!!!!!!

Godwinson  posted on  2011-02-18   15:32:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Godwinson (#2)

FIGHT THE TYRANNICAL REPUBLICAN GOVT!!!!!!

Maybe it didn't occur to you that they are doing what they campaigned on doing and were elected to do.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-02-18   15:35:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: no gnu taxes (#3)

The Governor created much of the shortfall with tax giveaways, and goes beyond a reasonable stance to ask for givebacks in hard economic times in order to try to go for a change of the very structure of power of collective bargaining.

He is only getting the comeuppance he and other Republicans deserve, and I hope the reap what they sow.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-18   15:42:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ferret Mike (#6)

tax giveaways

Think about those words mike. Now whose money is taken and given away? tax giveaways lol

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-18   16:59:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#16)

Not enough in taxes is coming from the people rich and powerful enough to have undue influence on the process. When you give a large break to someone not contributing their fair share, it is indeed a giveaway.

I am hopeful that the next time the Bush tax giveaway to the wealthiest few percentage points of income earners comes up for extention, that they will not be extended and will die the death they deserve.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-18   17:03:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Ferret Mike (#17)

There is no such thing as a tax break. It is just less money stolen. It is still stolen.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-18   17:05:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#18)

Well, if you say that there should be no taxes, you are not going to get many agreeing with you, even from the Tea contingent.

Like it or not, government needs to be funded. And government provided protection and benefits that would not be there if government vanished but for a puppet show run by corporate interests.

I have argued against the no taxes at all argument before, but usually against anarchists or people who want business to run things. Are you an anarchist now?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-18   17:10:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Ferret Mike (#20)

I am in favor of the gas tax if it pays for the roads.

I'm in favor of constitutional taxes.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-18   17:22:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#22)

And do you have a citation that explains what "Constitutional taxes" are? If not, can you explain how you view what is a Constitutional tax and what is not.

Also, do you support federal taxes for infrastructure like roads, or only on a local basis. And as the Interstate Highway System requires standardization for infrastructure and was made into law as a 'National Defense Highway System' when it was developed and passed into law in the 1950s, how would you turn a highway system from a national entity who's first mission is to insure national defense to fifty different entities.

And if you did this, how would that save money and still provide the mobility it would take to defend against invasion and provide for security?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-18   17:29:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#25. To: Ferret Mike (#23)

And do you have a citation that explains what "Constitutional taxes" are?

Excise taxes.

All road taxes should be exclusively paid for by gas taxes.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-18 17:49:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ferret Mike (#23)

Article I, section II of the U.S. Constitution.

The 16th Amendment, as judged by the SCOTUS in STANTON v. BALTIC MINING CO, 240 U.S. 103 (1916):

the 16th Amendment conferred no new power of taxation...

the tax is therefore, within the ruling of Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & T. Co. 157 U.S. 429 , 39 L. ed. 759, 15 Sup. Ct. Rep. 673; 158 U.S. 601 , 39 L. ed. 1108, 15 Sup. Ct. Rep. 912, a direct tax and void for want of compliance with the regulation of apportionment.

That is to say, "Income" is NOT wages or salaries, but profit separated from its source, aka "capital gains." Thus, "income tax" is tax on the profits of investments. Since wages and salaries are an equal exchange of money for labor, there is no profit, thus no "income" and no "income tax" applies. Of course, hiding behind the bozo filter makes it convenient for you to ignore the fact that our government is a bunch of lying THIEVES, and you LOVE them, as they rob you... You socialists are TRULY pathetic.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-02-18 17:53:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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