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Title: Democrats flee Madison, Wisconsin (with police chasing them)
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://hillbuzz.org/2011/02/17/demo ... urtail-public-employee-unions/
Published: Feb 18, 2011
Author: hillbuzz
Post Date: 2011-02-18 15:27:17 by no gnu taxes
Keywords: None
Views: 15387
Comments: 27

Never in my life would I imagine Wisconsin would become the most fascinating state for politics, but that’s what it is right now as the newly elected Republican governor and legislature stand up to the public employee unions that are crippling that state financially.

This is not the Cocktail Party establishment playing go-along-to-get-along games…this is what Republicans need to do in every state, coast to coast.

Grow that spine. Stand up. Be heard. Sock it to the unions and the rest of the Democrat machine. Do not be afraid of bad media coverage or being called “big meanies” for doing what voters WANT you to do to get the country back on sound financial footing.

Democrats have actually fled the city of Madison, Wisconsin in contempt of a court order requiring them to do their elected duty and sit for a vote to curtail the power of Democrat-supporting public employee unions.

Police have actually been dispatched to hunt Democrats down so that a vote can be taken, since the legislature is required to have at least one Democrat present for a vote to be cast.

Democrats do not want to curtail union power, since union dues keep Democrats in power.

This simple fact has never been more clear…as is the reality that curtailing union power is the only way we will save this country from ruin.

Keep monitoring what’s happening in Wisconsin. If that state manages to liberate itself from union control, just imagine what strides can be taken in Arizona, South Carolina, and New Jersey, where other assertive and take-no-prisoners Republicans are in office.

Just think: the Cocktail Party establishment could have saved this country from the current predicament it’s in if only it had stood up to the unions a decade or two ago…but all of those GOP consultants advised them it was much better to “go along to get along”.

But look where that’s gotten us.

Do you know of any other good examples of newly elected Republicans showing some toughness towards former sacred cows and the various apparatuses Democrats depend on to keep their political contributions flowing (at ultimate net financial detriment to state budgets)?

Could a revolution of sorts be now underway with Republicans who have actually broken away from their Cocktail Party establishment ways?

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#1. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

I guess there wasn't room for the rest of the title: "so vote can’t be taken to curtail public employee unions"

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-18   15:30:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Skip Intro, no gnu taxes (#1)

My money is on the outlaws!! FIGHT THE TYRANNICAL REPUBLICAN GOVT!!!!!!

Godwinson  posted on  2011-02-18   15:32:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Godwinson (#2)

FIGHT THE TYRANNICAL REPUBLICAN GOVT!!!!!!

Maybe it didn't occur to you that they are doing what they campaigned on doing and were elected to do.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-02-18   15:35:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: no gnu taxes (#3)

The Governor created much of the shortfall with tax giveaways, and goes beyond a reasonable stance to ask for givebacks in hard economic times in order to try to go for a change of the very structure of power of collective bargaining.

He is only getting the comeuppance he and other Republicans deserve, and I hope the reap what they sow.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-18   15:42:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ferret Mike (#6)

The Governor created much of the shortfall with tax giveaways

He created some health care savings plans and allocated some money for economic stimulus -- hardly controversial measures. The rest is just BS spin.

Anyway, that was only 140 million dollars, and the projected short fall is 3.6 billion dollars.

The concessions he is asking from the unions are quite reasonable, and probably still leaves them with better benefits than most State employees nationally.

The taxpayers are sick of footing the bill for these goldbricks.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-02-18   15:51:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: no gnu taxes (#8)

Gutting the entire collective bargaining process is very unreasonable, and this is why there is so much protesting in regards to this and why it will spark a major political war over the rights of employees to belong to unions and engage in collective bargaining.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-18   16:02:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ferret Mike (#10)

Gutting the entire collective bargaining process is very unreasonable

What is unreasonable if for any Government employess to have any collective bargaining rights, period.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-02-18   16:17:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: no gnu taxes (#11)

I disagree. Any employee should have the option to join a Union. Most anti- union activity these days has moved from the old model of the bull with the club to the lawyers and specialists in working to undermine efforts of people to become unionized.

Many companies like Walmart, Starbucks and others provide lousy benefit packages and artificially keep the weekly hours of workers down to prevent them from getting health insurance.

Even when they get it, it costs so much compared to their wage that if they lose time at work due to sickness, they quickly use this benefit and can never seem to make enough to get it back.

No, it is time for an aggressive rebuilding of unions on a global basis. Global trade is a mechanism used to try to destroy and dis empower the rights of workers, thus hand in hand with this effort globalization of economic interests should be fought to either kill it, or to install means for unions to fight and prevail against the unfair and despotic business practices that hurt people so much worldwide.

If unions were the problem, there would be much more of them, and the richest of the rich would not still be getting richer and richer, and the poor even more desperate and hurting for a living wage income and benefits.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-18   16:38:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ferret Mike (#12)

From another forum from someone who lives in WI

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To all those OUTSIDE the State of Wisconsin, let me explain what this is really ALL about as far as union leaders like Beil are concerned......Part of the bill that takes much or the collective bargaining rights away from the unions. This is true, but what REALLY has Beil up in arms is that his workers would no longer be REQUIRED to belong to the union. Right now, state and gov't employees in Wisconsin are not required to be in the union, but they are required to pay union dues whether they are or not. Those dues are deducted AUTOMATICALLY from gov't employees paychecks and sent on to the union. The new law would eliminate this and the employees could be free to be in the union, but they would have to write a check EACH month for their union dues. They could also choose to NOT write a check, not be in the union, and keep that money themselves. The union KNOWS many will choose to keep their cash and the unions will soon be broke, with no money to send to the Democrat Party each election. THAT is what has the union leaders scared to death, their gravy train is coming to an end.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-02-18   16:44:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: no gnu taxes (#13)

"The union KNOWS many will choose to keep their cash and the unions will soon be broke, with no money to send to the Democrat Party each election"

Thanks to the gutting of sound election law controlling undue influence of deep pockets, many foreign corporations and rich people will be out to buy out even more of the U.S. Government by pouring billions into races for public office at a level rank and file contributors cannot match.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-18   16:54:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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