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Title: Haley Barbour's silence speaks volumes
Source: Washington post
URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy ... 1705445.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
Published: Feb 18, 2011
Author: Eugene Robinson
Post Date: 2011-02-18 09:39:26 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 25922
Comments: 32

Does Haley Barbour really have a warped and offensive view of America's racial history? Or is he just playing a dangerous game?

Perhaps both.

The Mississippi governor, considered a potential Republican candidate for president in 2012, keeps displaying what appears to be an astonishing level of ignorance about our nearly 400-year struggle with issues of race. At this point, it's more than a pattern. It's either a pathology or a plan.

The latest outrage - and I don't use that word lightly - came Tuesday, when Barbour was asked to comment on a proposal for a state license plate honoring one of the most notorious figures of the Civil War era, Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest. I question whether any Confederate officer is worthy of such recognition, given that they were all committing treason. But even for the Sons of Confederate Veterans - the group proposing the license plate - Forrest should be an embarrassment.

For those who do not see the Civil War through a revisionist gauze of gallantry and Spanish moss, Forrest is an abomination. In 1864, his troops mowed down scores of black Union soldiers who were trying to surrender, in what became known as the Fort Pillow Massacre. After the war, Forrest became one of the founding fathers of the terrorist Ku Klux Klan - and was the group's first national leader, or "grand wizard."

Barbour was asked whether he would denounce the idea of honoring such a figure. "I don't go around denouncing people," he told reporters. "That's not going to happen."

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#3. To: go65 (#0)

I question whether any Confederate officer is worthy of such recognition,

That's because you are a fool with a piss-poor PC education.

For one thing,it was NOT treason to exit a union you voluntarily joined with the understanding you were free to leave if they no longer followed the agreement that caused you to join.

Secondly,Forrest quit and denounced the KKK when it was taken over by racists. The KKK was formed to protect the common people from the abuses of the carpetbaggers,NOT because of any bullshit PC lies you were taught and still believe.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-02-18   10:11:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#4. To: sneakypete, go65 (#3) (Edited)

For one thing,it was NOT treason to exit a union you voluntarily joined with the understanding you were free to leave if they no longer followed the agreement that caused you to join.

Confederates like Lee swore an oath to rejoin the union so it was treason.

Also, the Confederacy killed more Americans than Tojo, King George, Stalin, Hitler, Osama bin Laden and the Vietnamese and Korean communists combined did.

Here are the Confederates singing against the Union using treasonous words:

Oh, I'm a good old rebel Now thats just what I am And for this yankee nation I do no give a damn.

I'm glad I fit (fought) against 'er (her) I only wish we'd won I ain't asked any pardon For anything I've done.

I hates the Yankee nation And eveything they do I hates the declaration Of independence too.

I hates the glorious union 'Tis dripping with our blood I hates the striped banner And fit (fought) it all I could.

I rode with Robert E. Lee For three years there about Got wounded in four places And I starved at Pint (Point) Lookout.

I coutch (caught) the roomatism (rheumatism) Campin' in the snow But I killed a chance of Yankees And I'd like to kill some mo'. (more.)

Three hundred thousand Yankees Is stiff in southern dust We got three hundred thousand Before they conquered us.

They died of southern fever And southern steel and shot I wish they was three million Instead of what we got.

I can't take up my musket And fight 'em down no mo' (more) But I ain't a-goin' to love 'em (them) Now that is serten sho. (certain sure.)

And I don't want no pardon For what I was and am I won't be reconstructed And I do not give a damn.

Oh, I'm a good old rebel Now that's just what I am And for this Yankee nation I do no give a damn.

I'm glad I fought against 'er (her) I only wish we'd won I ain't asked any pardon For anything I've done.

I ain't asked any pardon For anything I've done...

Godwinson  posted on  2011-02-18 10:38:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: sneakypete (#3) (Edited)

For one thing,it was NOT treason to exit a union you voluntarily joined with the understanding you were free to leave if they no longer followed the agreement that caused you to join.

U.S. Military Officer Oath: 1830-1862:

"I, _____, appointed a _____ in the Army of the United States, do solemnly swear, or affirm, that I will bear true allegiance to the United States of America, and that I will serve them honestly and faithfully against all their enemies or opposers whatsoever, and observe and obey the orders of the President of the United States, and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to the rules and articles for the government of the Armies of the United States."

Oath amended 2 July 1862:

"I, A.B., do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I have never borne arms against the United States since I have been a citizen thereof; that I have voluntarily given no aid, countenance, counsel, or encouragement to persons engaged in armed hostility thereto; that I have neither sought nor accepted nor attempted to exercise the functions of any office whatsoever under any authority or pretended authority in hostility to the United States; that I have not yielded voluntary support to any pretended government, authority, power, or constitution within the United States, hostile or inimical thereto. And I do further swear (or affirm) that, to the best of my knowledge and ability, I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter, so help me God."

Any U.S. military officer who sided with the Confederacy violated their oath and was a traitor the United States of America.

That's because you are a fool with a piss-poor PC education.

I took an Officer's oath in 1992. How about you?

go65  posted on  2011-02-18 11:09:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: sneakypete (#3)

Secondly,Forrest quit and denounced the KKK when it was taken over by racists. The KKK was formed to protect the common people from the abuses of the carpetbaggers,NOT because of any bullshit PC lies you were taught and still believe.

Forrest owned a slave mart in Memphis prior to the war. He was involved in the massacre of black soldiers trying to surrender, and as Grand Wizard of the KKK he helped design a program to intimidate blacks so they wouldn't vote.

yes, he had a late-in-life turnaround after working with blacks on a railroad project. Does that excuse his past actions? I think not.

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