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Title: Hispanics guide huge growth in Texas
Source: usatoday.com
URL Source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation ... /2011-02-17-texas-census_N.htm
Published: Feb 17, 2011
Author: Rick Jervis
Post Date: 2011-02-17 21:16:11 by Ferret Mike
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Views: 52466
Comments: 85

Meet the face of the new Texas: Jose Villagran, 39, first-generation Mexican American, four kids, suburbanite.

Along with thousands of others like him, Villagran was born in Houston to Mexican parents and still works in the city, but he moved his family to this safer, cheaper suburb 14 miles south of Houston.

Census data released Thursday show a robust statewide population spurt the past decade — adding more than 4.2 million residents, or 20.6% — attributed primarily to Hispanics such as Villagran, minorities born in urban centers but quickly spreading to suburbs and rural areas across the state.

"There are more Mexicans here than ever before," Villagran, a buyer for a scrap metal company, says of Pasadena. "We've kind of taken over."

And then some. Overall, Texas' population grew to more than 25 million, awarding the nation's second most populous state four more seats in the U.S. House of Representatives. Hispanics accounted for 65% of the state's growth since 2000, while non-Hispanic whites experienced the smallest increase of any group, just 4.2%. The black population grew by 22%.

"We're seeing the development of two populations groups in Texas: aging Anglos and young minorities," says Steve Murdock, a former Census Bureau director and now a Rice University sociology professor. "We're seeing Hispanic growth not just deepen but become pervasive throughout the state."

A healthy state economy during the recent recession and Mexican nationals fleeing drug cartel violence in Mexico also contributed to Texas' population boom, he says. Border towns saw sharp increases: Brownsville's population rose 25% and Laredo's by 33%.

But natural Latino population increases — more Latinos born in the state than dying — were the main engine, he says. For the first time in recent history, Texas is less than half non-Hispanic white, dipping to 45%, the data shows. Hispanics make up about 38% of the total population.

The state's burgeoning Hispanic population mirrors what's happening across the USA, Murdock says. "The Texas of today is the U.S. of tomorrow," he says.

Another telling statistic: Texas added nearly 1 million children under 18 — 95% of them Hispanic, says William Frey, a demographer for the Brookings Institution. "That's the future of the state," he says. "It's a diverse one."

The increased Hispanic numbers are expected to spark heated debate in the months ahead over how to redraw districts to accommodate the four new congressional seats and include more minority voters, says Ross Ramsey, managing editor of the Texas Tribune, an online political site. "That's the beginning of a political dogfight," he says.

Texas' population surge came in four main areas: Dallas-Fort Worth, Houston-Galveston, San Antonio-Austin and the Rio Grande Valley, all areas with high numbers of Latinos. Those four areas account for 84% of the statewide gain.

Houston remains Texas' largest city with 2.1 million residents. San Antonio moved up during the decade to the second slot with 1.3 million, trailed by Dallas with 1.2 million, the data show.

In the Houston area, Latinos no longer are confined to the East End neighborhood, their historical enclave, says Deacon Joe Rubio, an administrator for Catholic Charities Houston. Historically white suburbs such as Katy, Dickinson and Pasadena are swelling with Latinos, he says.

In Harris County, where Houston is located, the Latino population grew nearly 50% to 1.7 million and Asian Texans grew by 44% to 250,000, while the number of whites dropped from 1.4 million to 1.35 million — a 6% decline.

"There is a significant spread from traditional barrios or neighborhoods to suburban areas and other areas where you wouldn't find them before," Rubio says.

Once home to the Ku Klux Klan and the setting for the 1980 hit movie Urban Cowboy, Pasadena today is dotted with carnicerias (meat markets), washaterias (laundromats) and taquerias. The former Elks Lodge is now the El Palacio Real, hosting quinceañeras and other traditional Hispanic galas.

Resident Raul Silva, 41, has seen the city transform since he moved his wife and two children here from Houston 12 years ago. He says he hopes the new Census figures give Hispanic Texans more political muscle and the ability to self-improve.

"We need better representation," says Silva, stopping Thursday for a breakfast taco at Taqueria de Jalisco with his wife, Diana Selestino, 38. "I'd like to see it happen soon."

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#46. To: e_type_jag (#45) (Edited)

"I , unlike the pathetically fake bleater that you are, belong here and am not psychotically driven to veil my political ambitions for political election gains behind such mindless handwringing nonsense as granting "amnesty" to a bunch of people whose level of contribution to the US society's well being is a net negative number."

Got a citation claiming immigrants have never been a plus to the economy? Of course you don't, as this is a contrivance by you done for effect only.

It is a fact that workers from Mexico provided crucial labor in WW II when so much of U.S. manpower was in uniform.

It is a fact that labor from below the border has long been a vital component toward the end of making seasonal harvesting of crops viable, long before the current immigration issue came to be a major story.

It is a fact that when you want to dis-empower American workers and gut their wage people have long sought to use immigrants at a lower wage, and even at times reported them and had them deported before having to pay them, thus keeping their wages.

It is not rocket science to understand how exploiting workers saves money. If for example one has a janitorial firm and is contracted to clean 'X' amount of offices for say 15,000 a month, if you fire the American workers making 13 dollars and hour and hire Mexicans to do it at 10 an hour, you get to keep more of the money paid you under said contract.

You are not the alien here, but you are a patronizing idiot.

As far as the rich go, the upper brackets have more money than they could ever spend or need. I would rather end the Bush tax cuts and get approx 600 billion in taxes from the upper two to three percent of the richest in the next ten years of taxation and would like to see sanctions on corporations who start jobs overseas, and refuse to do so here.

I see you are upset I don't want to spank the tools of moneyed exploiters, but would rather look past the people they use and set up as scapegoats to get the focus of anger instead of the real scoundrels and thieves.

That is your problem, not mine, he who is the moral equivalent of a Yugo set up on cinder blocks.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-18   23:30:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Murron (#35)
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Briana pleaded for her life, according to the statements made by her mother, but the cold-blooded Minuteman killer pointed his gun at the child and killed her.

Then the last sound she ever heard was the explosion from the gun. A terrified young girl was sentenced to die from a cold-blooded Minuteman killer.A young girl just finishing the third grade.

Brisenai Flores and her father were murdered in cold blood then robbed on May 30, 2009 by Minutemen terrorists.

Minuteman American Defense = Terrorism

Convicted murderer Shawna Forde was founder and executive director of Minuteman American Defense ( MAD ) - There was never in History a better acronym for an organization

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-18   23:51:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Murron (#35) (Edited)

http://indigenousxicano.blogspot.com/2011/01/fox-news-mentions-crime-committed-by.html

Shawna Forde* Gunny Bush* Albert Gaxiola

Murderers, terrorists

Briana Flores and her father were also killed by thugs who botched a home invasion. They invaded the Flores' home in hopes of obtaining drugs and money to finance their vigilante efforts against the undocumented.They rushed into the home in the middle of the night pretending to be law enforcement searching for a suspect.

They were actually looking for drugs and money to finance their vigilante minutemen ambitions of catching illegals in the desert.

Like Brenda Arenas, Briana was shot point blank in the head. But Briana was killed because she had witnessed the murder of her father. She also witnessed her mother, Gina Marie Gonzalez, shot. Her mother pretended to be dead.

Briana pleaded for her life, according to the statements made by her mother, but the cold-blooded Minuteman killer pointed his gun at the child and killed her.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-19   0:01:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Murron (#35)

Minuteman terrorist Shawna Forde being escorted out of Pima County Sheriff’s Office.

When attackers burst into nine-year-old Brisenia Flores’ Arizona home the night of May 30, 2009, she was asleep on the couch in her family’s living room because she wanted to be close to the family’s new dog. It was one of the last memories Flores’ mother Gina Gonzalez has of her before their lives were ripped apart. Minutes later Gonzalez’s husband Raul Flores Jr. and Brisenia were dead, both were shot at point blank range. Gonzalez had been shot multiple times. She survived only by pretending to be dead, and then later by crawling to her kitchen to retrieve her husband’s gun and firing shots when the intruders returned.

It’s a grisly tale, an already devastating crime made outrageous by the possibility that the people who stormed into the Gonzalez home were led by a border vigilante’s twisted racial animosity.

The trial for three of Brisenia and Raul Flores’ alleged killers began this week in Arivaca, Arizona. First to be tried is 42-year-old Shawna Forde, the ringleader who allegedly paid drug dealers to go attack a competitor’s home. Forde’s defense has tried to paint Raul Flores as a dealer and a user, but the Daily Beast reports authorities who searched the apartment did not find anything besides pot residue in the house.

The plan, the LA Times reported, was to raid people’s homes for cash and jewelry which would fund Forde’s border vigilante group the Minutemen.

Gonzalez testified this week and said she could hear her daughter ask why her mother and father had been shot, and then silence as suspected killer Jason Bush reloaded his gun before shooting Brisenia twice in the face.

Forde’s attorney insists there is no physical evidence that links Forde to the scene of the crime and that Forde was merely an eccentric who would boast about unrealistic plans to rob drug dealers. Gonzalez could not pick Forde out in a lineup weeks after the murders. But when Forde was arrested several days after the murders, she was found with Gonzalez’s wedding ring and other personal belongings. Forde faces two counts of first degree murder charges, one count of attempted first degree murder and five separate counts of armed robbery, burglary and aggravated assault, according to the blog Immigration Clearinghouse, which is following the trial. Her two co-defendants, Bush and Albert Gaxiola, will be tried after her.

The portrait of Forde that has emerged is one of a self-imagined border security crusader who would finance her anti-immigrant activities with violent robberies. Forde had a habit of ending her emails with the sign off, “Lock and Load” and had close ties with tea party groups. She was involved with the Minutemen American Defense—her supporters claim she was once a Minuteman National Director—a loose affiliation of anti-immigration border activists who took to policing the border on their own with guns and surveillance equipment. Forde has also had ties with the anti-immigrant Federation for American Immigration Reform. These groups have all been labeled hate groups by the Southern Poverty Law Center. FAIR has distanced itself from Forde, and the Minutemen have disavowed one of their most enthusiastic members.

This week’s proceedings were interrupted by the antics of Laine Lawless, one of Forde’s Minutemen cohorts and a potential witness. The Arizona Daily Star reported yesterday that Pima County Superior Court Judge John Leonardo immediately sent the jury out of the room when he became aware that Lawless had snuck into the courtroom wearing a black wig, black trench coat and sunglasses. Because she is a potential witness, Lawless is barred from entering the courtroom or having contact with Forde, but said she had the right to be in the courtroom as a “citizen reporter.” The judge disagreed, and barred her from entering the courtroom and the courthouse until or unless she’s called to the stand. It was a truly odd turn for an already surreal murder case. The trial is expected to last up to six weeks.

Attorneys said Lawless had violated other court orders not to talk about the case online or to the media. She and another person posing under Forde’s identity had been posting messages on Facebook lambasting the trial proceedings since the trial began. Lawless is the founder of several pro-Forde websites, including justiceforshawnaforde.com. Underneath a photo of Forde, the website has a string of lines: “Racially profiled, false arrested, political agenda prisoner.”

Others draw different conclusions. “This was a horrible, tragic, and absolutely race-based coldblooded murder,” Phoenix radio talk show host Carlos Galindo told the Daily Beast, “and we allowed the far right to muddy it up and say her dad was a drug dealer and Brisenia was collateral damage. When we don’t counter that, we allow continued violence against all Arizonans.”

Immigration and Latino community advocates consider Brisenia and Raul Flores’ murders part of a documented uptick of violent attacks, murders and hate crimes fueled by anti-immigrant and anti-Latino sentiment that has been fomented by right-wing groups and politicians.

http://colorlines.com/archives/2011/01/minuteman_border_vigilante_on_trial_for_b risenia_flores_murder.html

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-19   0:36:19 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Ferret Mike (#49) (Edited)

Hondo68  posted on  2011-02-19   1:11:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Ferret Mike (#49) (Edited)

Gina Gonzalez

Raul Flores Jr. and Brisenia were dead

You've got one case of a drug running family of illegals, two of whom were killed in the wrong country. Too bad about the kid, wish it had been her mother who died.

Now contrast these two deaths against the millions of Americans killed, robbed, raped, maimed, and infected by illegal invaders.... FIRE Coalition - Operation Body Count


Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution guarantees protection against invasion?
How much longer will you allow the largest invasion in world history to go unchecked?!!

(Wisconsin) Deported illegal alien returns and kills six year old child. June 2008

June 9, 2008, Mackenzie Maddox (6 years old) and her mother Andrea Maddox (25 years old) were simply crossing the street in West Allis County. Mackenzie Maddox died at the scene while her mother was taken to nearby hospital where she later was released for her injuries. The murderer, Jose A. Rodriguez, an illegal alien that ICE had deported just months earlier in February 2008, waited at the scene for authorities.

A few days later, the friends and family held a candlelight vigil where her mother Andrea remembers, “I’m having a real hard time getting up in the morning and not seeing her there,” said Mackenzie’s grandmother, Christine Maddox. “Mackenzie was a very caring girl, very, very helpful for a 6-year-old. You would think she was 12, as much as she was able to help people.” (4) “Rodriguez was charged Wednesday in Milwaukee County Circuit Court with driving with a revoked license, causing death, a misdemeanor punishable by a fine and up to nine months in jail.

According to the complaint, he was driving a red dump truck north on S. 84th St. and crossed W. Cleveland Ave. under a green light when he struck the two pedestrians.” (5) Rodriguez is being held on an ICE detainer and is also facing up to 20 years in prison for federal charges resulting from his entrance back into the United States.


(Alabama) Illegal Alien guns down Alabama police officer. August 2005
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Officer Daniel Golden, 28, served the people of Huntsville for three years on the Huntsville, Alabama police force. At 3:30 p.m. on August 29, 2005, he was murdered by Benito Albarran, an illegal alien.

Officer Golden was answering a 911 domestic abuse call from Albarran’s wife at the restaurant they co-owned. As he got out of his patrol car, Albarran came out the front door and began firing. The officer returned the gunfire, walking backward. Golden’s gun jammed. Holding his hands up in a gesture of surrender, Daniel Golden pleaded for his life. He fell to the ground dropping his pistol. Albarran fired two shots into Golden’s face. (1) The officer died two hours later at Huntsville Hospital.

Albarran smoked a bummed cigarette and leaned up against a car until the police came. At first Albarran denied involvement, saying he was out back mowing grass when he heard gun shots. (2)

According to a close friend, Don Webster, Daniel Golden loved police work. Newly married Daniel Golden left behind a wife, three step-children and a grieving family. (3)

The 12 member jury found Albarran guilty of capital murder. After about 5 hours of deliberation, the jury voted 10-2 to recommend the death penalty for Albarran. The sentencing hearing has not been scheduled. (4)

(New Jersey) Illegal Aliens Shoot Teens Execution Style in Newark, New Jersey August 2007

Terrance Aeriel, Dashon Harvey, Iofemi Hightower, and Natasha Aeriel were hanging out, listening to music in an elementary school yard in Newark, New Jersey on a Saturday night in August, 2007. They were close friends and planned to be together at Delaware State University in the fall. Around 11:30 p.m., three of the four were murdered, forced to lean up against a wall, and shot execution style at close range in rapid succession. They were pronounced dead at the scene. Natasha Aeriel survived being shot in the head and multiple knife wounds. She was courageous in helping to provide information on the multiple killers involved. Jose Carranzo, a known criminal alien from Peru was arrested. A warrant was issued for Rodolfo Godinez, an illegal alien from Nicaragua, a principle player in the murders. (1) Two fifteen year olds were arrested and may be tried as adults.

From text messages between the victims, it appeared the victims struggled against their unknown attackers. Robbery appeared to be the motive. (2)

The alleged assassins have been charged with three counts of murder, four counts of first-degree robbery, one count of attempted murder, various weapons offenses, and one count of conspiracy to commit the crime of robbery. (1)

Jose Carranzo, with a fraudulent Social Security number was arrested on charges of raping a five year old and threatening the child and the parents. He faced a 31 count indictment. He was also arrested for a bar fight. Immigration officials knew of his illegal status from prior arrests but did nothing. (3)


(New York) Illegal Alien from Ecuador Murders Aspiring Actress November 2006

On the evening of November 1, 2006, Adrienne Shelly, 40 years old, was found strangled with a bed sheet, hanging from a curtain rod in an apartment she used as an office in Manhattan. The death appeared to be suicide. Adrienne was the adoring mother of a two year old child, wife, actress, talented director and screen writer. (1) A dusty footprint found at the scene led the police to Diego Pillco, an illegal immigrant from Ecuador.

Pillco confessed to murdering Adrienne and staging it to look like a suicide because he feared deportation. (1)

Pillco said Adrienne complained about construction noise and threatened to call the police. He followed her into her apartment and struck her until she was unconscious on the floor. Pillco claimed he thought she was dead. Pillco then choked her with a bed sheet and knotted it around the curtain rod, killing her by strangulation. (2)

In the courtroom, Pillco told a different story. His intended to rob Adrienne. He followed her into her apartment, stealing money from her purse. Adrienne fought back, scratching Pillco’s face. He punched her until she was unconscious. He made it appear she hung herself. (2) Police believe he intended to sexually assault her.

In a deal negotiated with the Manhattan district attorney, Pillco pleaded guilty to first-degree manslaughter, avoiding a jury trial. He was sentenced to a fixed 25 years in prison.


(Illinois) Illegal Alien kicks 2 year old to death in Coweta, Illinois August 2007

Kelynn Byrd, an innocent two year old child, was kicked to death. Kelynn died of “blunt chest and abdominal trauma” on August 12, 2007, in Coweta, Illinois. Michael Hernandez, an illegal alien, allegedly confessed to the violent murder. (1)

Exiting the apartment after an argument, Kelynn’s mother left him in the care of Hernandez. When she returned home it was obvious something was wrong with her baby. She called 911 and Kelynn was taken to a Tulsa hospital. It was too late. (2)

“Whatever kind of anger that can lead up to someone doing that to a 2-and-a-half-year-old boy is just beyond me”, the toddler’s grandmother, Michelle Ebel said. Burying her grandson was the hardest thing she ever had to do said Ebel.(3)

Michael Hernandez was ordered to be held in the Wagoner County Jail without bond. He was charged with first degree murder in the kicking death of Kelynn Byrd. (1)


(Georgia) Illegal Alien from Honduras kills 9 year old boy with ax. June 2007

Jordin Paulder, nine years old, was murdered with an ax on June 5, 2007. Santos Cabrera Borjas, an illegal alien was suspected.

Jordin was a sweet, chubby-cheeked 9 year old boy. On June 5, 2007, he was playing with his younger brother and a friend when a red car with a ‘wobbly wheel’ drove by them. Jordan warned the driver of the bad tire.

An occupant of the car became enraged and made an obscene gesture toward Jordin. Jordin apologized. The man stepped out of the vehicle and slammed an ax into 9 year old Jordin Paulder’s face twice, embedding it. (2)

Jordin was transported to Scottish Rite Hospital in Atlanta. Paramedics were afraid to remove the ax. Jordin Paulder died. (3)

Police attempted to interview a Honduran native, Borjas. He fled across the street to another apartment complex. From a second or third story stairway, Borjas threw a tire at Officer Alexis Powell, breaking his arm. Office Powell fired 3 shots, killing Borjas, after Borjas charged him with a stick. (4)

The police say they are “99% sure” Borjas was the murderer.(2) Borjas had been released on Friday from the Fulton County Jail after serving time for ‘criminal trespass’. (5) The car was located and two juveniles questioned. Jordin’s mother was worried about her family’s safety and went into hiding. (6)


(Ohio) Illegal Alien from Mexico sexually assaults and executes woman in Hamilton. June 2008

Gloria Marie Applegate’s body was found in an alley in Hamilton, Ohio, on Sunday, June 1, 2008. She was allegedly murdered by Daniel Estrada-Lopez, an illegal alien from Mexico.

Gloria Marie, 32 years old, had a history of mental illness dating back to her childhood. She was described as a “troubled girl” by her sister, Jovetta Griffin. Jovetta said protecting Gloria Marie was difficult because the family was unable to get her declared ‘incompetent’, the law was not in their favor. Her uncle, Don Applegate said Gloria Marie “didn’t think anyone would hurt her”. (1) (2)

Gloria Marie Applegate’s naked body was discovered at 3:15 a.m. She had been shot in the head and sexually assaulted, according to the coroner’s report. Estrada-Lopez was “indicted on a single count of aggravated murder with a gun specification” by a grand jury. The Butler County Prosecutor said detectives believe Estrada-Lopez “forced himself on her” and “that resulted in her shooting”. The prosecutor described Gloria Marie’s killing as “cold-blooded at “close range”. (3)

Estrada-Lopez was wanted on several outstanding warrants but they were not specified. He is being held on $1.5 million bond. A trial date of September 30, 2008 was set by the judge. (4) Estrada-Lopez may face life in prison if convicted.


(Illinois)Drunk driving illegal alien kills woman in Hampton Estates, Illinois May 2006

“I love you”, Matthew Henneken said to his wife, Patricia, at the end of their cell phone conversation. Those were the last three words Matthew, her husband of one year, would ever speak to Patricia. (1)

Patricia Henneken was killed in the early morning hours of Memorial Day, 2006, in Hampton Estates, Illinois, by Javier Rico, an illegal alien. Patricia’s car was broadsided by the intoxicated Rico after he ran a stoplight with his headlights off, traveling at least 100 mph.

Patricia’s death left behind a devastated and inconsolable 8 year old son. Sandy Innis, Patricia’s mom was shocked by her only daughter’s death and the inexplicable circumstances of the driver. Javier Rico was an illegal alien, had no driver’s license, prior DUI’s, and was wanted on a warrant for not showing up in court for an earlier drunk driving charge. (1) (2)

When Innis called United States Senator Dick Durban from Illinois to discuss her daughter’s killing, she was given the abrupt and disingenuous response, “it is too costly to send illegal aliens back to their countries”. (2) Matthew stated, he had not heard ‘straight answers’ for a death that was preventable. (1)

Javier Rico pled guilty to aggravated driving under the influence. As a result of Rico’s plea, he was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
(Original article by Stefanie Pervos from www.pioneerlocal.com )


(Idaho) Illegal Alien murders wife after 38 domestic abuse arrests. May 2003

In 2003, twenty-one year old Angie Leon of Nampa, Idaho, was murdered by her estranged husband, a known criminal alien. Leon had 59 arrests, 38 of which were charges of domestic abuse against Angie, her children and another family member over a five year period. (1)

On the morning of May 19, 2003, Angie’s mom, Sylvia Flores, came to drive Angie to work. A call from a pay phone, on caller ID, indicated to Angie another unwanted visit and confrontation with Abel was imminent. (1) Angie, frantic, made her mother flee with the children. Abel dragged her, at gunpoint, into her apartment while her children and mother watched in horror. Abel shot her twice in the head and once in the chest at close range. Sylvia Flores, called 911 from her car, but they arrived too late to prevent Leon from murdering the lovely young mother of three.

Abel pled guilty and was sentenced to life in prison. Sylvia Flores, Angie’s mother, sued Canyon County for denying her daughter equal protection under the law when prosecutors released Leon after accepting a plea agreement, despite his record of abuse, a month before he shot Angie. She received $925,000 to settle the lawsuit. (2)


(Utah) Illegal Alien kills three members of Cedar Hills family on Christmas Eve. December 2006

On the morning of Christmas Eve, 2006, the Ceran family was driving home from a performance of “A Christmas Carol” and last minute Christmas shopping. Three members of the family were tragically killed, allegedly by Carlos Prieto, an illegal alien.

Allegedly, Prieto, intoxicated, ran a red light and smashed into the Ceran’s car in Murray, Utah, killing Cheryl, 47, and Ian, 15 instantly. Julianna, 7, died later at the Primary Children’s Medical Center where she was admitted with, Caleb, 12, who had a broken pelvis and ribs. The car “wrapped” around 19 year old Clarissa’s legs. Husband and father, Gary Ceran, survived the accident along with the two injured children.

Prieto, a Mexican national, was described as “smelling strongly of alcohol and having glassy blood shot eyes” at the scene of the accident. (1) Carlos Prieto was arraigned and charged with three counts of automobile homicide, three counts of driving under the influence, and driving without a license. He will be turned over to ICE when the criminal case is resolved.

1n 2004, Prieto was cited for speeding and given a fine. (1) Jail records stated he had two prior arrests for drunk driving. (2)


(Colorado) Illegal alien shoots and kills ex-girlfriend . October 2006

Screaming, “Oh, God, Help me! Help me!” Amanda Duran ran for her life from ex-boyfriend, Gilberto Cruz. (1) Cruz, AKA Eduardo Espinoza-Martinez, the name he was using from a prior arrest, was an illegal alien. (2)

Cruz went to Amanda’s home on October 4, 2006, angry about her decision to break up. Amanda would not reconcile. He was hiding a sawed-off shotgun and three shells in his shirt. Cruz’ gun misfired twice. They had struggled over the gun.

Amanda fled to a neighbor, knocking and begging for help. Before anyone could respond, Cruz shot Amanda Duran in the back of the head from a few feet away. He left in a pick-up truck. “Just drove off like nothing happened”, a witness observed. (3)

If I knew how to operate a shotgun, she wouldn’t have died in the street, she would have been dead in the house” according to testimony by Cruz. Cruz had been planning the murder for a week. (4)

Amanda Duran, 22, was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis at the age of 17, but it did not change her love of life nor her plans. Cruz was convicted of first degree murder and possession of a dangerous weapon in July, 2007. In August, Cruz was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.


(Pennsylvania) Illegal alien kills three at veterans club in Altoona. August 2005
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The United Veterans Club of Altoona, Pennsylvania, was the site of the Altoona’s first-ever triple homicide in 2005. It was committed by Miguel Padilla, a known criminal alien on August 28.

After an evening of drinking, Padilla and friends wanted to gain admission to the ‘members only’ club. (1) Alfred Rickabaugh, owner of the club, and Mignogna, the doorman, were arguing with them. Padilla went to his car and returned with a .45-caliber hand-gun. He opened fire on Rickabaugh and Mignogna, hitting Stephen Heiss, an innocent bystander. Heiss pushed his girlfriend to the ground, taking a direct shot to the chest. Heiss, Rickabaugh and Mignogna all died. Rickabaugh was shot several times in the back.

Alfred Mignogna, 61, was a well-liked former high school math teacher, father and grandfather. Fredrick Rickabaugh, 58, would have celebrated his 40th wedding anniversary with his wife, Janet, in October. Stephen Heiss, 28, a Marine who had served in Iraq, was a patron.

Judge Hiram Carpenter ruled the jury could not know Padilla was an illegal alien until the sentencing phase of the trial. Padilla was convicted of 3 counts of first-degree murder. After 4 hours of deliberation, the jury sentenced Padilla to death.

Miguel Padilla is in this country illegally since the age of nine. In 2004, Padilla was arrested for domestic violence and two firearms violations. He had several other priors and a parole violation. District Attorneys from two counties and the Altoona Police contacted ICE, but they failed to respond. (2) (3)


(Maryland) Illegal Alien kills Marine & his date on Thanksgiving. November 2006

Thanksgiving night, 2006, Jennifer Bower and Corporal Brian Mathews were on their second date. Stopped at a red light in Columbia, Maryland, Eduardo Morales-Sorianno, an illegal alien, crashed into their car spinning it around and breaking the windshield. Morales-Sorianno had a blood alcohol level four times the legal limit. (1) Both Jennifer, 24, and Brian, 21, died from injuries at the Baltimore Shock Trauma Center. (2)

Jennifer Bower was buried on her 25th birthday. Friends gathered to “remember and celebrate” Jennifer’s life. “Infectious and outgoing”, Jennifer was studying community counseling at Marymount University. (3)

Corporal Mathews had returned from an 8 month tour of duty and was scheduled to leave the service in June. Brian’s mom noted Brian had donated his organs.” His heart was donated at the hospital. She said, “…it’s a good heart, a very good heart.” (4)

In February, Eduardo Morales-Sorianno, in the country illegally for a year, had been charged with 4 counts relating to drunken driving in Howard County. He refused a breathalyzer test which required by law a 120 day suspension of his driver’s license. (5) Morales-Sorianno was never prosecuted, nor was his license suspended.

On May 28, 2008, Judge Louis Becker III gave Morales-Soriano 10 years in prison and 5 years probation after he pleaded guilty to two counts of automobile manslaughter.(1) Morales-Soriano may be deported after he finishes his sentence.


(Minnesota) Illegal alien runs stop sign, kills four students on school bus. February 2008
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Four children, Jesse and Hunter Javens, Emilee Olson and Reed Stevens of Cottonwood, Minnesota, were killed when a van, allegedly driven by an illegal alien from Guatemala, Olga Franco, broadsided their school bus after running a stop sign, toppling it over onto a pickup truck.

On the afternoon of February 19, 2008, the parents of 28 students gathered at Lakeview School to learn the fate of their children. Three of the families received the worst possible news. Their children were dead. Ten other children were injured, two in critical condition.

For the memorial service, 1400 people gathered in the gymnasium to say good-bye. Students gathered, holding hands and praying.

Franco is charged with 4 counts of vehicular homicide, 17 counts of criminal vehicular injury and identity theft after giving authorities a false name, Alianiss Nunez-Morales, and a false Social Security number. (1) Franco claimed someone else drove the van, yet she was extricated from behind the wheel of her vehicle. The judge granted a change of venue request for Franco.

Franco was charged in 1996 for not having a license. (2) In May, 2006, after driving a car into the front yard of a house without a license, she was ticketed and paid a $187.00. (2)


(Florida) Illegal Alien kills two in hit-and-run. December 2006

In the early evening of December 28, 2006, four year old Joshua Morrow and a Morrow family friend, Ronald Bishop, forty-two, were struck by an SUV when crossing the Courtney Campbell Causeway near Tampa, Florida. Ronald’s truck had broken down and he was taking the little boy for a drink. Going 40-45 mph, Armando Lopez-Canada, an illegal alien, hit Josh and Ronald and left them lying on the pavement as he sped away. Witnesses said Lopez-Canada slowed down and then took off down the parkway. A doctor and other drivers at the scene desperately tried to resuscitate the two victims of the hit and run. (1)

“I just can’t believe how cold and callous a person would be to know that they hit two human beings and just keep going regardless of his immigration status and just being a human being”, said Josh’s grandmother, Brenda Andujar in an interview. (2) Fear of deportation made Lopez-Canada flee the scene, he admitted to police. (4) Lopez-Canada pleaded guilty to two counts of leaving the scene of a accident involving death. Judge Mark Wolfe gave him the maximum sentence, 30 years. (3)


(Texas) Illegal Alien kills Houston police officer while in custody. September 2006

Rodney Johnson, a 40 year old police officer, served the people of Houston for 12 years. He was honored for his service with two HPD Lifesaving Awards and the Texas Medal of Valor. (1) Johnson was a kind-hearted, family man who loved his job by all accounts. Officer Johnson “believed he could make life better for others” and he died while serving his community. (2) He was murdered by Juan Leonardo Quintero, an illegal alien.

On September 21, 2006, Officer Rodney Johnson stopped a car driven by Quintero, for going 50 mph in a 30 mph zone. Driving without a license, Officer Johnson hand-cuffed Quintero, did a pat down search and placed him the rear seat of his patrol car. He was wearing layered clothing and Officer Johnson missed the 9mm pistol in Quintero’s waistband. Quintero managed to extract the gun and shoot Rodney Johnson multiple times in the head and back as he sat in the front seat. (3) Witnesses said Quintero shouted racial slurs and profanities. (4)

Quintero was sentenced to life in prison on May 20, 2008. Quintero had been arrested for priors. In 1998 he was given probation for ‘indecency with a minor’ and was deported in 1999. He had multiple DWIs.(3) He was issued an ID by the state of Texas following his re-entry to the U.S. (5)


(Nevada) Illegal Alien kills Nevada man who comes to aid of woman. April 2004

On April 24, 2004, Troy Payton was stabbed in the chest with a butcher knife so aggressively he died within minutes. The perpetrator of the crime was Abimael Azmitia-Montalvos, an illegal alien.

Azmitia had been “making offensive remarks and gestures” to a 15 year old girl at the Sunrise Vista Executive Suites in Las Vegas, Nevada, where the Paytons and the Azmitias were neighbors, according to police. A group of men confronted Azmita. Azmitia returned to his apartment.

Troy heard a Azmitia’s pregnant wife scream and ran outside where Azmita fatally stabbed him. Covered in blood, Azmitia ran to a convenience store where guests of the motel surrounded the building. (1) Witness accounts of the crime were varied and it was unclear if Azmitia was acting in self-defense. Azmitia was not injured. (2)

Troy, 32, loved horses and he wanted his ashes spread over an area near Carson City where wild horses were said to roam. He left a wife and four children.

Azmitia was charged with suspicion of murder and use of a deadly weapon. He had a prior record of assault and domestic violence in Colorado and illegally re-entered the United States a month prior, after being deported. Judge Joseph Bonaventure sentenced Azmitia to 19 to 48 months in prison after refusing Amitia’s request for probation. Judge Bonaventure stated, “He has got to pay somewhat.” (2)


(Virginia) Illegal Alien kills two teen girls while driving drunk. April 2004
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The lives of two young friends, Alison Kunhardt, 17, and Tessa Tranchant, 16, ended on March 30th, 2007, in Virginia Beach, VA. They were killed by Alfredo Ramos, an illegal alien.

The girls were inseparable. Alison’s father, David, spoke of his daughter as having “a great sense of humor”, “always upbeat” and loving music and theatre. He said, “Her number one thing, however, was to hang out with Tessa”. Tessa’s mother, Collette, said she was as an “aspiring chef” who “loved to sing and surf”. (1)

On their way to a friend’s house, their car was stopped at a red light when, Ramos, intoxicated and going at least 65 mph, slammed into the back of their Plymouth Duster. Pinned in the wreckage, the girls had to be freed before treatment. Both wore seat belts. Both teens died. (1) (2)

Ramos pleaded guilty to two counts of aggravated involuntary manslaughter and was sentenced to 24 years in prison with deportation to follow. (3)

Ramos was convicted in Virginia Beach of public drunkenness in 2006, and of identity theft, public drunkenness, and a DUI in Chesapeake, in 2007. He was driving with a fake driver’s license and a blood alcohol level twice the legal limit. Officials in Chesapeake did not inform Customs Enforcement of his immigration status. (4) (5)


(Washington) Illegal alien from Jamaica shoots family, kills mother & daughter. June 2002

Violence rocked the residents of peaceful Whidbey Island, Washington, on June 20, 2002. Marjorie Monnett and, her daughter, Holly Swartz, were murdered in cold blood by Preston Dean “Hugh” Douglas, an illegal alien.

Holly had been living with Douglas, a Jamaican national. Douglas was accused of molesting a child. (1) An investigation was underway. Holly moved into her mother’s house.

Douglas went to the Monnett house, carrying a 12 gauge shotgun, “looking for revenge”, according to the Island police. (2) He shot Monnett’s son, Bruce, and his girlfriend, Sierra Flug. Both were critically wounded. Both survived.

Douglas attempted to get Holly to come out of a neighbor’s house by yelling and firing shots. Marjorie Monnett walked toward Douglas. Angry words were exchanged. Douglas fatally wounded Marjorie, firing one shot into her hip and two shots into her head after she collapsed.

Holly ran onto the street after seeing her mother wounded. Douglas shot her in the leg and in the head. She died next to her mother,

Douglas then turned the gun on himself, dying next to his fiancé.

Douglas had no priors after illegally entering the United States several years ago. No one knows his history in Jamaica.


(Oregon) Illegal aliens assault 15 year old girl, then kill her. July 2007

Dani Countryman was 15 years old in the summer of 2007. Dani lived in Texas and was described as having “an infectious smile and loving heart” by those who knew her.(1) While visiting Ashley in Milwaukee, Oregon, Dani Countryman was allegedly sexually assaulted and murdered by two illegal aliens, Gilberto Rivera-Gamboa and Alejandro Rivera-Gamboa.

On July 28, 2007, Dani died from strangulation. According to statements made by the defendants, Gilberto Rivera-Gamboa, an illegal alien, was on top of tiny Dani on the floor of his apartment, attempting to rape her. Gilberto asked his cousin, Alejandro, to subdue her when she fought back. The 5’10”, 180 lb illegal alien, Alejandro Rivera-Gamboa, crushed her neck with his foot until she stopped moving. The sole of Alejandro’s bloody shoe matched an imprint on Dani’s chest. (2)

The Rivera-Gamboas were apprehended and charged with Dani Countryman’s murder, with “attempted rape and sexual assault” charges added later. (3) (4)

Court records show Alejandro Rivera-Gamboa was in this country illegally, but no one “from the district attorney’s office to his probation officer” conveyed the information to Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Rivera-Gamboa was arrested twice in 2006 for DUI. Pleading guilty in November, 2006, he signed a petition confirming he was not a U.S. citizen. Nine months after Rivera-Gamboa’s second DUI, Alejandro murdered Dani Countryman. (5)



(California) Illegal alien fugitive kills Los Angeles Deputy Sheriff. April 2002

On April 29, 2002, Los Angeles County Sheriff Deputy David March, 33, was on routine uniformed patrol, driving a black and white patrol vehicle near Irwindale, CA. At approximately 10:30 a.m., March initiated a traffic stop, entering the vehicle's license plate on his Mobile Data Terminal. Less than two minutes after the entry, a passing motorist observed Deputy March lying in the street bleeding. Deputy March was shot several times, at close range, by a single gunman and died from his wounds.(1)

Deputy March's handgun was still holstered.

The suspect’s car and other evidence connected Armando Garcia to the killing of Deputy March. Garcia, a convicted drug dealer who had been deported twice and who was wanted for two attempted murders, fled to Mexico within hours of killing Deputy March. Garcia admitted killing Deputy March to a number of acquaintances. He had previously vowed to kill any police officer who tried to arrest him.

In a written plea agreement initialed and signed by Garcia, the defendant plead guilty to second-degree murder and admitted that it was an intentional killing of a peace officer performing his duties, and that the defendant used a 9 mm semiautomatic pistol to commit the crime. (2)

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Hondo68  posted on  2011-02-19   1:19:37 ET  (49 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: hondo68 (#51)

"You've got one case of a drug running family of illegals, two of whom were killed in the wrong country. Too bad about the kid, wish it had been her mother who died."

Check your facts, Spambo, both were US CITIZENS. And neither were engaged in drug dealing. That was a cover story for the crimes committed that resulted in their deaths.

As far as your spam goes, use a link. Besides, buttercup, most immigrants are productive, peaceful people. It would take less effort to do a damn by circumstantial evidence montage of all the murders and mayhem committed by lifelong American citizens.

Your smoke means nothing, except you know how to fart in forum.

Bottom line; you started off by wishing the death of American citizens erroneously assuming they were Mexicans, erroneously buying the Minuteman terrorist cover story concerning drug dealing.

Therefore, you are ignorant, and a fool.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-19   12:52:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Ferret Mike (#52)

both were US CITIZENS

OK, I was wrong about their citizenship, but that doesn't change the fact that illegal alien invaders have a devastating effect on the US. They should be killing, maiming, raping, robbing, and infecting the people of their own country, NOT US citizens! They don't belong here, which is why their legal status is "illegal alien".

Deport them!

Hondo68  posted on  2011-02-19   13:03:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: hondo68 (#53) (Edited)

We need to pass amnesty. MOST, the vast majority, a huge huge amount of immigrants are very productive, decent people. One can always find bad people in ANY group and do the sort of hatchet job you spammed in.

And you spammed it in because you know your argument is weak. As I said, the vast majority of crimes in the U.S. are committed by lifelong citizens.

Your argument is a break glass in case of no real basis to argue sort of thing.

One can do a story of all the evil nuns in the world for the past hundred years and make an argument all are bad and should be sanctioned. But that just would mean - as in this case with immigrants - that you have no leg to stand on in your argument.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-19   13:10:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Ferret Mike (#46)

Got a citation claiming immigrants have never been a plus to the economy?

Citation?...why don't I cite you for failure to open your eyes?

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e_type_jag  posted on  2011-02-19   18:39:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Ferret Mike (#46) (Edited)

It is a fact that workers from Mexico provided crucial labor in WW II when so much of U.S. manpower was in uniform.

Got a citation for that??

Of course you don't, as this is a contrivance by you done for effect only.

....chuckles....."it is a fact!!!...because Mike says it's a FACT!!!"

sheesh.....

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall. Message to lycra bra cross dressing dwarf if it returns....FOAD

e_type_jag  posted on  2011-02-19   18:42:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Ferret Mike (#49)

Minuteman terrorist Shawna Forde being escorted out of Pima County Sheriff’s Office.

more chuckles.....yeah mike....this makes the case why illegal peasants should be rolling right in here.

Everyone knows btw the prisons have 10's of thousands of "Minuteman terrorist Shawna Forde" types under lock and key.

chuckles.....carry on.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall. Message to lycra bra cross dressing dwarf if it returns....FOAD

e_type_jag  posted on  2011-02-19   18:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Ferret Mike (#46) (Edited)

It is not rocket science to understand how exploiting workers saves money. If for example one has a janitorial firm and is contracted to clean 'X' amount of offices for say 15,000 a month, if you fire the American workers making 13 dollars and hour and hire Mexicans to do it at 10 an hour, you get to keep more of the money paid you under said contract.

Gee mike...you're just racking up good reasons after good reasons why illegal peasants should be welcomed into the warmth of the dimtard voter ranks while we all just should see all these critical skill sets Peasant "A" who wields a mean toilet plunger has over someone from say....Belarus with just a paltry ScD in Aeronautics .......you ought to run for office on this platform.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall. Message to lycra bra cross dressing dwarf if it returns....FOAD

e_type_jag  posted on  2011-02-19   18:48:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Ferret Mike (#46)

As far as the rich go, the upper brackets have more money than they could ever spend or need.

And that's nice of you to decide that.

Also a "fact" right?

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall. Message to lycra bra cross dressing dwarf if it returns....FOAD

e_type_jag  posted on  2011-02-19   18:51:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Ferret Mike (#46)

he who is the moral equivalent of a Yugo set up on cinder blocks.

This ranks as the worst attempt at a verbal putdown I've seen this year....maybe it'll hold for the next 10 months and you'll get a prize.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall. Message to lycra bra cross dressing dwarf if it returns....FOAD

e_type_jag  posted on  2011-02-19   18:54:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Ferret Mike (#54)

As I said, the vast majority of crimes in the U.S. are committed by lifelong citizens.

So mike...you of all the "fact" and citations.....care to take a guess at which country has by far the largest CURRENT (not counting the ones that have been run outta here back to their hellhole countries after deportation) number of ILLEGAL ALIEN FUCKING CONVICTS locked up in the jails and prison systems??

Producing and being decent and assimilating and helping out during WWII and all that stuff.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall. Message to lycra bra cross dressing dwarf if it returns....FOAD

e_type_jag  posted on  2011-02-19   19:04:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: e_type_jag (#55)

"Citation?...why don't I cite you for failure to open your eyes?"

My eyes are fine. And I've been around since the iceberg lettuce and grape boycotts in the late 60s and early 70s and have seen migrant farm workers and other Latinos and Latinas contribute a lot. It is you who is conflicted and wrong here.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-19   19:08:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: e_type_jag (#60)

"he who is the moral equivalent of a Yugo set up on cinder blocks."

Probably has a lot to do with the fact I was more amused than peeved, and like you more than not. I may disagree with you, but I don't necessarily ever dislike you or anyone else for doing so.

So, I am better with bicycle metaphors; sue me. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-19   19:13:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: e_type_jag (#56)

Got a citation for that??

Of course you don't, as this is a contrivance by you done for effect only. > ....chuckles....."it is a fact!!!...because Mike says it's a FACT!!!"

Here is an excellent book I recommend on the topic:

Mexican Labor and World War II

The Bracero Program (named for the Spanish term bracero, "manual laborer" (lit. "one who works with his arms") and ultimately derived from brazo, "arm") was a series of laws and diplomatic agreements, initiated by an August 1942 exchange of diplomatic notes between the United States and Mexico, for the importation of temporary contract laborers from Mexico to the United States.

American president Franklin D. Roosevelt met with Mexican president Manuel Ávila Camacho in Monterey to discuss Mexico as part of the Allies in World War II and the Bracero Program. After the expiration of the initial agreement in 1947, the program was continued in agriculture under a variety of laws and administrative agreements until its formal end in 1964.

In the 1930s, during the Great Depression, over 500,000 Mexican Americans were deported or pressured to leave, during the Mexican Repatriation. There were fewer Mexican Americans available when labor demand returned with World War II.

The Bracero Program was initially prompted by a demand for manual labor during World War II and began with the U.S. government bringing in a few hundred experienced Mexican agricultural laborers to harvest sugar beets in the Stockton, California area. The program soon spread to cover most of the United States and provided workers for the agricultural labor market (with the notable exception being Texas, which initially opted out of the program in preference to an "open border" policy, and was denied braceros by the Mexican government until 1947 due to perceived mistreatment of Mexican laborers[1]). As a corollary, the railroad bracero program was independently negotiated to supply U.S. railroads initially with unskilled workers for railroad track maintenance but eventually to cover other unskilled and skilled labor. By 1945, the quota for the agricultural program was more than 75,000 braceros working in the U.S. railroad system and 50,000 braceros working in U.S. agriculture at any one time.

The railroad program ended with the conclusion of World War II in 1945.

At the behest of U.S. growers, who claimed ongoing labor shortages, the program was extended under a number of acts of congress until 1948. Between 1948 and 1951, the importation of Mexican agricultural laborers continued under negotiated administrative agreements between growers and the Mexican Government. On July 13, 1951, President Truman signed Public Law 78, a two-year program that embodied formalized protections for Mexican laborers. The program was renewed every two years until 1963 when, under heavy criticism, it was extended for a single year with the understanding it would not be renewed. After the formal end of the agricultural program in 1964, there were agreements covering a much smaller number of contracts until 1967, after which no more braceros were granted.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracero_Program

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-19   19:20:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Ferret Mike (#62)

It is you who is conflicted and wrong here.

Well of course I am mike.

All that stuff I see and hear about on the streets down here is just a phase....I'm sure all this'll just fix itself right up.

Let's let more peasants in here, why don't we? 'Sall good.

We'll just have to wait til the grape and iceberg lettuce harvest seasons start.

Or I trade my yugo for a new trabant.

(oh....and now off the mindless exchange of gibberish with you.....do tell me....no....cite....where I'm "conflicted" ok?)

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall. Message to lycra bra cross dressing dwarf if it returns....FOAD

e_type_jag  posted on  2011-02-19   19:21:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: e_type_jag (#57)

more chuckles.....yeah mike....this makes the case why illegal peasants should be rolling right in here.

Everyone knows btw the prisons have 10's of thousands of "Minuteman terrorist Shawna Forde" types under lock and key.

chuckles.....carry on.

Actually jaggie, I was banned from eLPee after posting an article predicting this sort of problem would rear it's ugly head because of the self serving, glory hungry, and violent nature of some I saw become members of the Minuteman movement.

So, naturally as I watch a major player of this vigilante squad get her just desserts with more on the way for her co-conspirators, I am going to naturally be in an "I told you so mood."

Besides, I am for an amnesty that requires people to be accountable enough for working toward the end of becoming a citizen or to go back home when their is no need for them to do casual farm labor. I would also reiterate what I said earlier about the victims being American Citizens not involved in the drug trade, thus there was no real excuse for this crime in even the slightest bit.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-19   19:30:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: e_type_jag (#65)

"Or I trade my yugo for a new trabant."

That would be hard. For one thing, there are no new Trabants being out of production; and unlike the Yugo I don't think that horror story of a car is street legal in the U.S.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-19   19:33:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Ferret Mike, e_type_jag (#46)

"It is a fact that workers from Mexico provided crucial labor in WW II when so much of U.S. manpower was in uniform".

World War 2 Facts – On the Home Front

When consideration is given to World War 2 facts, those facts differ dramatically. With each generation the recollections disappear as those who experienced the events pass on. Yet over six decades later, there still remain courageous men and women who recall first-hand, “the war to end all wars.”

World War 2 Facts – The Woman’s Touch

Among the most impressive World War 2 facts is the unprecedented numbers of women who served as factory workers. Women devoted themselves to meeting the wartime production demands for planes, tanks, ships, and weapons. As a Property and Supply Clerk, Bea handled the distribution of parts in building the F4U1 Corsair, an aircraft known for its high durability and maneuverability in dogfights.

While fathers, brothers, and husbands fought battles halfway around the world, women sacrificially gave their support as well. An unprecedented number of women entered the ranks as factory workers:

In 1944, skilled female workers made an average weekly salary of $32.21, while skilled male workers earned $54.65 weekly.

From 1940-1945, the female labor force grew by 50%.

From 1940-1945, female employment in defense industries grew by 462%.

Murron  posted on  2011-02-19   19:33:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Ferret Mike (#64)

Mike ....Mike.... Mike.

Let me "hep" you on this.

I'm all for running all the illegal peasants and their spawn right on out of here poste haste......then setting up a work center or 3 somewhere where the other main Mexica industry of drug lordism is not gunning everyone down of lopping heads off....and someday soon letting the local drywall contractors etc...here in the USA arrange "importation of temporary contract laborers from Mexico to the United States." .......

This could occur sometime after the current repressive/regressive regime is deposed in 2012 and the "trades" pick up to the point we would really benefit from the help.

It would be good to see surgically stapled zippers on the new bracero crew to keep a lid on the "rabbitization effect" and additionally some sort of articulating metal vest fitted with tensionable bungee cords attached to those cross border work centers to assist in the braceros return at the completion of their contract.

The "returning" part is the key to success on this.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall. Message to lycra bra cross dressing dwarf if it returns....FOAD

e_type_jag  posted on  2011-02-19   19:36:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: e_type_jag, Ferret Mike (#65)

It is you who is conflicted and wrong here.

Well of course I am mike.

LOL!

It's faggot mikey, (REAL busy trying to channel UFW), who is "conflicted" and "wrong" here.

I mean YOU have never posed as a FEMALE online have you e_?

YOU have never just LIED online to act out that deep "conflict" have you e_?

Nah bro, YOU're cruisin, "30 knots and no smoke".

It's whiny weasel gurl who is "conflicted" and "WRONG" here.

As usual.

LMAO!

Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free!

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-02-19   19:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: e_type_jag (#61)

So mike...you of all the "fact" and citations.....care to take a guess at which country has by far the largest CURRENT (not counting the ones that have been run outta here back to their hellhole countries after deportation) number of ILLEGAL ALIEN FUCKING CONVICTS locked up in the jails and prison systems??

Probably the one that has way too many people locked up, many of whom are in prison for victimless crimes like cannabis cultivation.

I would also submit that again, compared to the numbers of immigrants in this demographic group who are hard working, law biding and very decent people, the number of bad apples is no worse than a similar comparison of decent hard working livelong American Citizens and the bad apples in this demographic group.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-19   19:37:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Mad Dog (#70)

Why M. Doggie Dawg, nice of you to join in.

So, do you have any real questions?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-19   19:40:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Ferret Mike (#66)

I would also reiterate what I said earlier about the victims being American Citizens not involved in the drug trade, thus there was no real excuse for this crime in even the slightest bit.

Actually mike I didn't comment or fully read your account because frankly, when comparing whatever this ugly chick did compared the universe sized body of criminal work perpetrated by south of the border criminals either here or pumping dope up here, well......any focus on her actions is like standing on Neptune and trying to locate a grain of sand on Dockweiler Beach.

Perspective mike....perspective.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall. Message to lycra bra cross dressing dwarf if it returns....FOAD

e_type_jag  posted on  2011-02-19   19:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Ferret Mike (#71) (Edited)

I would also submit that again, compared to the numbers of immigrants in this demographic group who are hard working, law biding and very decent people, the number of bad apples is no worse than a similar comparison of decent hard working livelong American Citizens and the bad apples in this demographic group.

chuckles...

I'll not bother to link the cite to the factoid listing the per capita percentage of illegals (or "allegedly legal spawn" of illegals) that have peered out from behind the rods.

It ain't the same, bud.

So....Cannabis cultivation.....ummmmm...newsflash mike......very very very few illegal peasant cons percentage-wise are in prison for cannabis cultivation.

I'll not google hunt and cite that either for you.

Because to an agenda driven political "religionist" as you fact will simply be deflected off in your blind pursuit of your goal.

You want these peasants here for no other reason than swelling of your political base....but you won't admit that.

But...let's go there on this trip down "Mike's Logical Wonderland"....and see if I get this straight.

So, because illegal peasants don't commit inordinately larger per capita levels of crime (allegedly) ..... ergo.....we should let them come here outside the legal process those other lesser immigrants from Pakistan have to go through right?

Perfect!

NNNNOOOOOWWWW I get it it:)

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall. Message to lycra bra cross dressing dwarf if it returns....FOAD

e_type_jag  posted on  2011-02-19   19:59:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Mad Dog (#70)

Hey Dog!

I kind of doubt Mike will revisit the conflicted thing again.

Been my experience with these regressives that when they get flustered the modus operandi is to throw out "whatever" to occlude the view.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall. Message to lycra bra cross dressing dwarf if it returns....FOAD

e_type_jag  posted on  2011-02-19   20:06:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: e_type_jag (#74)

"You want these peasants here for no other reason than swelling of your political base....but you won't admit that."

You are way wrong here. My Grandmother on my Father's side of my family was born from Puerto Rican parents. He died when I was six, and she never clued me in. My Mom (who was very very conservative, and racist,) maintained both my paternal grandparents were Irish with a little Portuguese mixed in as an explanation for the darker skin my brothers, sisters and I obviously have.

I recovered from the racism I had learned from her and I figured out the truth about my Grandmother's ethnic background.

And this has had a profound effect on my utter loathing for bigotry I see against Latinos and Latinas I never saw aimed at Irish illegals of which I have known many being from New England.

Besides, I am not a Democrat, and if the Republicans ever figured out how much of the Latino and Latina demographic they could pick up should they stop pandering to the anti-immigration crowd, the issue of who is helped the most demographically by this new set of citizens would be made quickly a moot one.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-19   20:30:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: e_type_jag (#73)

"Actually mike I didn't comment or fully read your account because frankly, when comparing whatever this ugly chick did compared the universe sized body of criminal work perpetrated by south of the border criminals either here or pumping dope up here, well......any focus on her actions is like standing on Neptune and trying to locate a grain of sand on Dockweiler Beach.

Perspective mike....perspective."

And I believe it is you who lack a proper perspective, not me.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-19   20:33:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: e_type_jag, Mad Dog (#75) (Edited)

Once in the 1960s when 10th Special Forces Group was in Germany, a general especially angry and grudgeful at them for how well they generally could disrupt a large comprehensive military exercise involving many elements made a special effort to find them to neutralize them.

He and his people would approach Germans, show them pictures, and offer a reward for any information that would expose any of their patrol bases or safe houses.

One large group of partying people stopped talking (in fluent German) and listened to this attempt to gather intelligence aiming to find and interdict those 'scoundrelous 10th Group people, and after these people left, the German speaking members of the 10th SFG (A) continued their fête and then in the course of that exercise disrupted it again.

My point is simple, I don't give a shit if when doing returning bannee accounts at FR or eLPee I represented myself as a member of the fair gender.

It was deception done with the motive to keep the accounts in question viable and open until finishing with them.

Thus, M. Doggie Dawg can rant all he wants about this. But never in a million years will it bother me, not amount to anything more then a tempest in a teapot existing in his own mind. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-19   20:43:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Murron (#68)

You are very correct; woman helped replace much of the lost labor during WW II and they didn't make the wages they deserved. Thanks for sharing this.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-19   21:07:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Ferret Mike (#72)

So, do you have any real questions?

You mean like why do you brain dead libTURD fucks think that how "honest" or "nice" illegal alien invaders are matters in any way, and that it changes in any real way the FACT that they are ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS, NOT "immigrants", shit for brains?

How about how is possible for ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS to be in VIOLATION of multiple US and State LAWS and still be called "honest" and "decent" by libTURD fucks such as you?

How about, HOW is AMERICA supposed to support ALL of the world's people and still survive? Is that the same kind of economics where PRINTING money actually MAKES money you gibbering libTURD fuck?

I could sit here FOREVER you gibbering libTURD fuck but you never can and never will HONESTLY answer any question I ever ask you.

Because "mere objective truth" is not you or your ilk's goal.

Your goal is so called monkey wrench "revolution" "kill de man" "eat the rich" blah blah blah and the rest of your noxious infantile weak minded collectivist LOSER drivel.

I'd piss on you and your ilk, but I expect that y'all would enjoy it.

So ... FUCK off weasel gurl.

Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free!

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-02-19   21:11:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Ferret Mike, e_type_jag (#78)

.

Faggot mikey you are nothing but a self admitted LIAR and fraud cornflake boy.

Why would I ever believe any unsubstantiated thing that you ever say weasel gurl?

Frankly faggot mikey you ARE perfect exemplar of what I most despise in the so called 'left" of today.

You are a deeply STUPID LIAR, and a vile HYPOCRITE.

Btw weasel gurl.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

Hamlet Act 3, Scene 2

Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free!

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-02-19   21:20:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Mad Dog (#81)

Well, I'm glad you feel you amuse yourself M. Doggie Dawg. For my part your bizarro depiction of pointless spin means nothing.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-19   21:36:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Ferret Mike (#76)

Besides, I am not a Democrat

Greenies, P&F, Socialist, CPUSA.... whatever mike......regressives are regressives IMHO.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall. Message to lycra bra cross dressing dwarf if it returns....FOAD

e_type_jag  posted on  2011-02-19   22:56:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Ferret Mike (#77)

Perspective mike....perspective."

And I believe it is you who lack a proper perspective, not me.

Now that's a great non response mike:)

I expected nothing less.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall. Message to lycra bra cross dressing dwarf if it returns....FOAD

e_type_jag  posted on  2011-02-19   22:58:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: hondo68 (#51)

To: Ferret Mike

You've got one case of a drug running family of illegals, two of whom were killed in the wrong country. Too bad about the kid, wish it had been her mother who died.

Now contrast these two deaths against the millions of Americans killed, robbed, raped, maimed, and infected by illegal invaders....

Fuckstick Mike will NEVER address the crime-wave that has resulted from the illegal-alien invaders.

He will NEVER admit that these fucking ROACHES are intentionally coming here to take over the USA, and turn it into their own little barrio.

He will NEVER face reality, because he's a socialist, and a TRAITOR to this country.

I shit on him, and everything he stands for.

Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum.

"You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai"

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-02-25   22:58:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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