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Title: Hispanics guide huge growth in Texas
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URL Source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation ... /2011-02-17-texas-census_N.htm
Published: Feb 17, 2011
Author: Rick Jervis
Post Date: 2011-02-17 21:16:11 by Ferret Mike
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Comments: 85
Meet the face of the new Texas: Jose Villagran, 39, first-generation Mexican American, four kids, suburbanite. Along with thousands of others like him, Villagran was born in Houston to Mexican parents and still works in the city, but he moved his family to this safer, cheaper suburb 14 miles south of Houston. Census data released Thursday show a robust statewide population spurt the past decade — adding more than 4.2 million residents, or 20.6% — attributed primarily to Hispanics such as Villagran, minorities born in urban centers but quickly spreading to suburbs and rural areas across the state. "There are more Mexicans here than ever before," Villagran, a buyer for a scrap metal company, says of Pasadena. "We've kind of taken over." And then some. Overall, Texas' population grew to more than 25 million, awarding the nation's second most populous state four more seats in the U.S. House of Representatives. Hispanics accounted for 65% of the state's growth since 2000, while non-Hispanic whites experienced the smallest increase of any group, just 4.2%. The black population grew by 22%. "We're seeing the development of two populations groups in Texas: aging Anglos and young minorities," says Steve Murdock, a former Census Bureau director and now a Rice University sociology professor. "We're seeing Hispanic growth not just deepen but become pervasive throughout the state." A healthy state economy during the recent recession and Mexican nationals fleeing drug cartel violence in Mexico also contributed to Texas' population boom, he says. Border towns saw sharp increases: Brownsville's population rose 25% and Laredo's by 33%. But natural Latino population increases — more Latinos born in the state than dying — were the main engine, he says. For the first time in recent history, Texas is less than half non-Hispanic white, dipping to 45%, the data shows. Hispanics make up about 38% of the total population. The state's burgeoning Hispanic population mirrors what's happening across the USA, Murdock says. "The Texas of today is the U.S. of tomorrow," he says. Another telling statistic: Texas added nearly 1 million children under 18 — 95% of them Hispanic, says William Frey, a demographer for the Brookings Institution. "That's the future of the state," he says. "It's a diverse one." The increased Hispanic numbers are expected to spark heated debate in the months ahead over how to redraw districts to accommodate the four new congressional seats and include more minority voters, says Ross Ramsey, managing editor of the Texas Tribune, an online political site. "That's the beginning of a political dogfight," he says. Texas' population surge came in four main areas: Dallas-Fort Worth, Houston-Galveston, San Antonio-Austin and the Rio Grande Valley, all areas with high numbers of Latinos. Those four areas account for 84% of the statewide gain. Houston remains Texas' largest city with 2.1 million residents. San Antonio moved up during the decade to the second slot with 1.3 million, trailed by Dallas with 1.2 million, the data show. In the Houston area, Latinos no longer are confined to the East End neighborhood, their historical enclave, says Deacon Joe Rubio, an administrator for Catholic Charities Houston. Historically white suburbs such as Katy, Dickinson and Pasadena are swelling with Latinos, he says. In Harris County, where Houston is located, the Latino population grew nearly 50% to 1.7 million and Asian Texans grew by 44% to 250,000, while the number of whites dropped from 1.4 million to 1.35 million — a 6% decline. "There is a significant spread from traditional barrios or neighborhoods to suburban areas and other areas where you wouldn't find them before," Rubio says. Once home to the Ku Klux Klan and the setting for the 1980 hit movie Urban Cowboy, Pasadena today is dotted with carnicerias (meat markets), washaterias (laundromats) and taquerias. The former Elks Lodge is now the El Palacio Real, hosting quinceañeras and other traditional Hispanic galas. Resident Raul Silva, 41, has seen the city transform since he moved his wife and two children here from Houston 12 years ago. He says he hopes the new Census figures give Hispanic Texans more political muscle and the ability to self-improve. "We need better representation," says Silva, stopping Thursday for a breakfast taco at Taqueria de Jalisco with his wife, Diana Selestino, 38. "I'd like to see it happen soon."
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#1. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
Which is it? Is he Mexican or American you can't be both? I used to live in El Paso Texas when I was a kid. Most of the Mexicans there were assholes. I remember one of them started a fight with me at lunch. We were playing wallball. I wouldn't fight him at lunch but told him to meet me after school if he wanted to fight. He and a bunch of others showed up. I beat his ass real good. Had him pinned on the ground punching him in the face. Two of his little midget mexican friends tried to pull me off of him. My friend craig, a black guy shook his head no. They took their hands off of me. I popped him a couple more times in the face. He gave up. I got up and let him go. That little prick never fucked with me again.
I'm mostly Euro-American, it's just hyphenating where people's ethnic background lies. Looking how Texas' economy is booming with this huge influx of people. I would say the state is a poster child for immigration reform and why we need to give immigrants a route toward the end of becoming citizens should they want to. It would behoove the Texas GOP to not alienate Hispanic people if they want to keep Texas red, as many go go GOP if they don't get alienated by anti-immigrant fervor emanating from the Republicans. I grew up in Connecticut and my high school was 99 percent white, as was Clinton, CT. I did live in the Sherbrooke Canada area and because many of the French speaking kids - many of them American Indian in background - didn't like us English speakers much, I picked up the native tongue there fast. I didn't win many fights until High School where my gymnastic/dance instruction took a back seat to a newly discovered passion for Karate. I always was a fast talker as a kid and this spared me much grief, but I went to about nine schools growing up as I also lived in Europe too. (My step dad was an airline captain.) So my strength was never my size, it was my cunning and ability to adapt and land on my feet in a new situation.
I've taken Judo, Karate, and boxing. ick ni san she go roko sichi hochi ku ju They may be spelled wrong.
those lazy ass, wetbacks will do to texas just what they did to california, the deadbeats are criminals and we need to deport all those assholes back to the shithole they come from. if they're so fucking hard working then why is mexico such an unflushed turd.
So, you're a tough guy, eh? You crack me up.
You're sounding like Sarah Palin. Immigrants have already found the path to citizenship. Illegal alien invaders left the path when they entered the US. They need to backtrack to their home country, and head to the US embassy.
You crack me up. I'm just a nice guy that is concerned about the direction my nation is going Fred. I'm worried about my childrens future.
I stopped advancing after I fell. And I don't compete anymore, but I like working with the students and get a great workout as a result. My Mom told me I would have high blood pressure about now in my lifespan and there was nothing I could do about it. She was wrong. I have a resting pulse of 58, not as good as it was when I raced bicycles, but good enough.
They are North Americans in North America. And Texas was originally part of Mexico. Unlike Sarah Palin, I had Hispanics take my job in the woods doing reforestation away, and I didn't take it personally as a lot of things were happening. Like Conserva-Nutzies making life hard for Cooperative businesses for example. Go worry about the terrorist Minutemen murderers and terrorists. They seem to be a bigger problem. I have no sympathy for anti-immigration talk. I am very much an immigration reform proponent.
Why are we the moral equivalent of a banana republic with only a few people controlling most of the wealth? This is not the fault of the people knocked out of the middle class by greed and power hungry assholes who have the highest incomes. And the problem in Mexico with the power elite there is not the fault of the average citizen there. Why are Hispanics the largest group who have won the Congressional medal of honor and do so well in the military? Why are so many such hard workers who take care of their families so well? I am not moved by your whining. I see nothing wrong with the influx of Mexicans and Latinos/Latinas from the South the past couple of decades. I am just not that excited about keeping this country predominately Euro-ethnic.
They are North Americans in North America. And Texas was originally part of Mexico. One of your problems is that you can't tell a legal immigrant from an illegal alien. I love immigrants, they're usually more pro-American than native born Americans. What does this load of globalist kaka have to do with anything? You don't recognize the Unites States of America as a sovereign nation with borders?
That is incorrect, Mike. Texas was part of Spain. The Mexicans held it for precisely 20 years. That hardly gives then indigenous rights.
So, you're a tough guy, eh? You crack me up. Yeah....I never could figure out why people like Aka.....and Ferret (haa!!...you missed commenting to him on his self professed manliness in likewise fashion eh?)...and your own personal supplier of furry balls to placate yourself with....aka...the newly returned lycra clad gaping spincter dwarf, need to blow themselves up on anonymous chatboards like this. Hey fuckmop....I actually passed with today's dumping of dwarf into the bozocrapper.....more people erased from my view than have me erased from their view. anyway....I still see your bleatings fwiw. Not sure if I'll bother watching your trainwreck much longer though...other than to continue for awhile the mildly entertaining view of your headless screeching antics directed at AKA as to how he should run his site.
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall. Message to lycra bra cross dressing dwarf if it returns....FOAD
How predictably fakely empathetic and patently toolish of you Mike. I'd ask why you believe people / nee uneducated peasants who have no claim here, have little if nothing intellectually to add to society, have built nothing of value here to date etc.... etc.... should step before very accomplished and in some cases terribly oppressed professionals (who actually can tangibly add to our countries value)from India or Russian Fed or China or Iraq etc... have to stand at the back of the line. Lost in "you peoples" religiously driven mantra to rack up dimtard voting numbers...is the fact that immigration is a privilege and not a "mexica" right. All those parties I mentioned wait 10+ years for a hearing with the INS...while you bastards rollout red carpets to largely illiterate peasants who'll roll right into your pig trough cages on your "pay for play" dimtard plantations. You ought be ashamed....but otoh .... maybe not .... politics is your religion afterall.
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall. Message to lycra bra cross dressing dwarf if it returns....FOAD
You are on a roll....lmbo!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Texas You contradicted yourself, and I see no point to your post. We have a history of taking what was not ours in this hemisphere anyway, so I find your statement a posture, nothing more.
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" And for that you can thank the Mexican hating Apaches as well as the Spanish/Mexican social caste system.
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There is nothing sacred in how we came here and destroyed most of the native inhabitants, killed most of the animals and cut down most the trees with the ethics and operational modus of locus razing a crop. When you get down to the root of the problem, it is the disempowerment of natives using the Papal bull called the Doctrine of Discovery to promote genocide and lack of recognition of the sovereignty of those who had been here for a very long time before we got here, and the greed and more dangerous diseases we brought over from our festering and overcrowded cities in Europe. This continent would have been better off not having the Age of Discovery happen. But it has, and I am not dumb enough to feel the reverence for it you do. I see the post above this and see you are not commenting to discuss the issue. As far as 'peasants' go, most people here are considered just that by the corporations and the wealthy that own them, as they make jobs elsewhere to starve is out and to try to humiliate the people here for having the 'nerve' to want to earn a decent living wage and have a stable home and future for their kids. You may want to knock others to make yourself feel relatively better in that you try to treat latinos and Latinas as badly as the wealthiest of this country and the world treat us; but that is a pecking order game that shows how powerless and foolish you are. Many Mexicans came in and helped us in WW II when we lacked manpower to farm and this helped us a great deal, though even then there was discrimination and bias against them. The game of the wealthy is to entice people in to this country to get two labor forces fighting and competing with one another. This is to further disempower people here economically, and to use the natural propensity to revert to bigotry to fuel fighting between Latinos and Latinas and us. This is to take out minds off of who is the real enemy here, the rich and powerful. I have no squabble with people being used as badly as others and I are being treated by the same people who encouraged and facilitated the labor influx. Should you wish to be that myopic, be my guest. Your crania-rectitus looks becoming on you.
Racist bait is not why I post, to the bozo you go.
And you are great at showing you don't have the tools to compete in a discussion in this thread. So?
OK, so you posted this as well as your letter repeating it in internal mail. If you post again I'll answer. But in light of the bullshit game in Pmail, this post to me gets an ignore.
Answer to your link: "A gentleman is someone who knows how to play the banjo and doesn't." - Mark Twain As for your cryptic comment regarding Apaches in general and the Spanish/ Mexican social caste system, you need to elaborate and clarify for that to rate some sort of response. Especially in light at how your link just shows a desire to bait.
LOL... I post a picture of a parasite, and that means I'm a RACIST??? Talk about stretching!!!!!!! LOL.
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" Taken over, working under the table for 100,000 dollars a year while declaring 10,000 dollars in income and paying no taxes and even getting an EITC, while declaring themselves indigent and getting free food, medical and housing benefits. All the while, those stupid caucasions who play by the rules pay for it. Is this a great country or what?
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
Got a citation to back the words of your urban legend? Even were this so, there you go again; ignoring alleged wrongs of the businesspeople/corporations and picking on rank and file workers. You are correct in that yes, business wants to destroy unions, the middle class and is only interested in more power and money; but you don't really want to go after them. They have money and power and could fuck people like you up if youn really went after them. It is much more fitting a bully and coward like you go after the poorest and least empowered people who couldn't get back at you and others for playing this whack the easiest target game.
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I don't know how often what I cited is the case, but I know it is pretty damn often. My wife is Hispanic and knows a lot of folks here in cases just like I cited. (How did small towns in North Carolina become Little Mexico?) Not only do many of these folks do what I stated; they brag about it. Her reactions are mixed; she'd probably have more empathy with them if we could get away with it, too.
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
Again you have a focus to go after the easy target and show no irritation at the employer for any alleged violations. When I planted trees, companies sprung up that only hired Mexicans and people from Latin America that outbid us, and we heard how the logging and milling companies subsidized and empowered them with the benefits and capital to outbid companies like mine that hired those of use who had always planted. It is hard word, takes one to three hours to drive to than from the job site. Only one out of sixteen people who try planting are able to master the skill and can do it day after day despite weather, terrain, and the shear physical effort and endurance the job requires. 16-24 dollars an hour is fair wage for this work mandated to be done by law to create a sustained yield of timber. But those who pay for reforestation were willing to invest to destroy my employer and others like Jim Luzzi and Bob Boley of Greenhill Reforestation because they prefer the current paradigm where people drive that travel time, pay 20-70 dollars for rain gear, 100-300 dollars for work boots suitable for the job, and do it on 11-13 dollars an hour. I have many friends who are Mexican and plant trees because they were pawns and patsies in the game played to destroy my job. I focus my wrath on the corporations and companies that played the game out of greed and utter disregard for people. But as you show, you play a easier and more cowardly game and go after the pawns and patsies with never a thought to give any shit to those who designed and executed the game for financial gain.
Many are self employed. Maybe I should blame myself as we did hire one tree surgeon to remove some limbs that were hanging over our house and only payed $100 (it would have cost close to $1000 with a licensed company). Even he probably would have charged more than that, but my wife had done some favors for him. Of course he wasn't bonded, so we were taking a chance. When we had our baby, we didn't have insurance at the time and ended up paying more than 20,000 dollars out of our pocket. These folks simply declare little or no income, and with no questions asked, pay nothing.
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
??????? I didn't intend to post a PM email to you. Some sort of tech glitch? I might even have hit the PM button by mistake. Anyway it was unintentional. "La cucaracha, la cucaracha, EDITED TO ADD: I just looked in LF email, and there are no messages to you, or from you. You smoking that wacky tabacky, er what?
Apologies, it was Calcon who mailed that. I should of looked and checked before assuming you re-enforced a forum post with a mailing. As for Eric's dehumanizing analogy that Mexicans are like scavenger insects, his application of the analogy was pointless and the post merely a taunt. This is not eLPee, and he needs to move beyond childish taunts and to continue posting the sort of post he does well when he takes the time and effort to do things right.
Indeed I do recognize the United States as a sovereign nation. Otherwise how could I justify raising my right hand and swearing an oath to defend it and the U.S. Constitution when I was on Active duty and in the National Guard?
It was exactly on target. THAT is why you find such analogies so offensive, to your "sensitivities." LOL.
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" When I planted trees, companies sprung up that only hired Mexicans and people from Latin America that outbid us, and we heard how the logging and milling companies subsidized and empowered them with the benefits and capital to outbid companies like mine that hired those of use who had always planted. It is hard word, takes one to three hours to drive to than from the job site. Only one out of sixteen people who try planting are able to master the skill and can do it day after day despite weather, terrain, and the shear physical effort and endurance the job requires. 16-24 dollars an hour is fair wage for this work mandated to be done by law to create a sustained yield of timber. But those who pay for reforestation were willing to invest to destroy my employer and others like Jim Luzzi and Bob Boley of Greenhill Reforestation because they prefer the current paradigm where people drive that travel time, pay 20-70 dollars for rain gear, 100-300 dollars for work boots suitable for the job, and do it on 11-13 dollars an hour. I have many friends who are Mexican and plant trees because they were pawns and patsies in the game played to destroy my job. I focus my wrath on the corporations and companies that played the game out of greed and utter disregard for people. But as you show, you play a easier and more cowardly game and go after the pawns and patsies with never a thought to give any shit to those who designed and executed the game for financial gain. #21. To: Murron (#15) And you are great at showing you don't have the tools to compete in a discussion in this thread. So"? Ferret Mike posted on 2011-02-18 I was feeling light-hearted when I posted that to e_type_jag, but I'm feeling much better now, so lets 'compete' in this discussion Mike, and please, try not to make this about you, I know it will be hard, most self-centered narcissus have such a time trying to keep the focus on themselves, but you do it so well. Anyway! You think it's hard work, driving one to three hour to a job site and being paid on 16-24 dollars an hour? My father, g-father and uncles in Harlan didn't have the luxury of cars, they walked to to the dark, cold, coal mines and there they laboured, from sun-up, to sun-down, rain, snow, sleet, or come hell and high water... for SLAVE wages. They were not offered, nor would they have accepted, handouts from the government, in fact, they had a BLOODY war going with the government, that is still going on to this day. And they would have shot your presumptuous sniveling pancy ass if you had offered them your sympathy on their behalf. You are no hero for hiring Illegal Aliens above Americans, even if you do think they work harder, that is your opinion, you don't know every American worker in this country, and how hard that man, or woman, would would work given the chance and a decent living wage. What you are is a TRAITOR to this nation and it's people who live here legally. It's the American people who deserve the 'Fair Wage' for their hard work, a home, bread for their children, a shot at a better future, not cowardly squatters who didn't have the courage to stay in their own country and fight for what's right, standing up for themselves, and demanding change in their own country, whether it be with a bullet or a ballot. I focus my "WRATH" on YOU MIKE, and all bleeding heart TRAITORS who give Illegal Invading Parasites the green light to invade our country and push their way to the front of the line, stealing jobs, demanding rights and privileges they didn't have the guts to fight and die for in their beloved Mexico. If you had a grain of decency in you, you'd enlighten yourself to the real hero's of Mexico. It's those who were left behind to do what your sniveling, belly-aching gubmin leeches wouldn't do. These teat suckers you speak of, they tucked tail and ran, leaving their old men and women behind, to do their fighting for them. I'll give you one example of who I would have more respect for, then you can have the floor. You have access to the internet, use it, get off that sanctified horse of yours and educate yourself. Don Alejo was riddled with bullets and with two weapons by his side. Alejo Garza Tamez was the owner of the ranch and a highly respected businessman in Nuevo Leon. A 77 year old man, who before death, took out four gunmen, fighting on his feet with dignity, courage, and honor.
Illegal Invading Parasites I suspect that trees know how to grow on their own, without Ferret and his "guest workers" help.
Beautifully stated. Mike is one of the traitors, and he's PROUD of it. If there's any justice in this world, he and all his butt-buddies (go56, mctoejam, brian s, et al) will get their rewards, and hopefully soon.
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" I never ever said they work harder. I've never ever hired anyone, illegal or legal. I've never done ANYTHING traitorous. I would bring two clean changes with me to work. You get wet from sweat and rain, and it's generally cold. So when one would get back to the 'crummy' (Jargon for work rig) I would change into dry clothes, otherwise it would be torture because my body would cool down from the hard physical labor and I would get hypothermia. The second set would be for the end of the day. As for how long I worked, it is such hard labor carrying a 19 pound hoedad, sixty five to seventy pounds of trees up and down steep and muddy hills with logging slash and brush getting in the way and making each tree that much harder to plant. I'm sure working sun-up and sun down was a long day and I comment your relatives work ethic. But it is absolutely impossible to plant trees that long. The work is grueling. No shit. That is WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT! Those who entice people into this country do it to lower everyone's wage by setting two labor forces in competition against one another did it tlo lower the average wage everyone got. That is EXACTLY what I said. I never, never, ever said the wage should be lower that immigrants deserved a high wage and people born here a lower one. What fucking drugs are you on that cause you to so deeply misrepresent my words? You are insane, beyond belief insane.
Actually, it is Oregon state law that trees be re-planted after logging. The planting is inspected for quality and density per measured plot, and the appropriate forms are sent to the state who then can chose to inspect and verify. Planted trees are genotypes and varieties chosen because they grow fast. Usually on private land most planting is of 'disaster succession' Douglas Fir, as they do well with so much sunlight and grows fast enough to cut again 40-60 years late, instead of 80-100 years later with less yield as the naturals left after the cut were 'true' firs and not present in any density to create a viable 'plantation' on that unit of ground. I think those who deal in silvaculture - the commercial growing of trees - know more about this than you. And I certainly know a wee bit about the topic after planting and working as a planting inspector 12 years.
Stick it up your ass, bitch. I went through my anger and resentment the loss of income because of the influx of labor from the south TAKING MY FUCKING JOB. But I learned that people making money from planting trees enticed these folks here because they made a fuck of a lot more money of the winning bid price per acre by paying less wages. I never ever wanted my job to go away, and I have spent my time resentful and angry at those taking jobs I do well. But I am mature, and smart. I got over my anger as it served no purpose to be angry at people who were being used to take the wage down and to replace me at my job. I don't get angry at he who the person leveraging my job away from me wants me to get angry at. I recognize I am supposed to scapegoat the replacement worker as not to bring heat on the employer playing games pitting Mexicans against Americans for jobs. So I so what is smart, I get and am still angry at those who USED Mexicans to steal job instead of the people they instrumentalize to do their dirty work. I am someone who has worked very hard all my life. I never ever have taken a handout, never ever asked for spare change even when broke down and stuck somewhere because I am too proud too. I am a veteran of nine years active, and four years part time in the U.S. Military. I am a war vet. If you were a male standing before me and called me a traitor, I'd skull fuck your ass. You stupid fucking slanderous idiot fucking moron.
Bitch, you can't even seem to comprehend what I posted on the topic. You have ignored my words and put your lies in my mouth. You are not only ignorant, you are insane. Hear about this Minuteman terrorism? Bet you haven't: Earlier this week, a jury found Shawna Forde—leader of the Minutemen American Defense (MAD)—guilty of murdering 8-year-old Brisenia Flores and her father, Raul Flores, Jr. during a racially motivated home invasion in 2009. Forde faces the death penalty for orchestrating the robbery and murders. ColorLines’ Julianne Hing reports that Forde had planned a number of elaborate home invasions to raise funds for her border patrol activities—targeting individuals whom she (erroneously) believed to be drug dealers. Though no drugs were found in the Flores home, Forde—who, incidentally, has close ties to both the Tea Party and the conservative think tank Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR)—nevertheless justified Brisenia’s murder on the grounds that “people shouldn’t deal drugs if they have kids.” After watching Forde’s accomplices shoot her mother and kill her father, Brisenia was shot twice in the face. While Latino advocacy groups have characterized the Flores murders as hate crimes provoked—at least in part—by state leaders’ incendiary anti-immigrant rhetoric, many regard Forde’s conviction as one of many indicators that the tables are turning on anti-immigrant politicos like Brewer who have curried political support through fear-mongering and misinformation. Less tolerance for border vigilantes As Valeria Fernandez reports at New America Media, the verdict comes just weeks after another Arizona court upheld a decision against rancher Roger Barnett who, in an act of unwarranted border vigilantism, assaulted a group of migrants traveling across his property. Barnett was fined $80,000. While the Forde and Barnett cases are only two incidents of a nationwide rash of anti-Latino crime, their convictions are particularly significant in Arizona, where state leaders have long tolerated and even encouraged border vigilantism as a necessary response to purported border-related violence. A year ago, state politicians—including Brewer—fomented a national anti- immigrant mania (which handily ushered in SB 1070) by promoting false reports of border violence. As Valeria Fernandez reported at Feet in 2 Worlds last March, lawmakers were quick to attribute the shooting of Arizona rancher Robert Krentz to an unidentified, undocumented Mexican immigrant—though the sheriff in charge of the case later told the press that the prime suspect was not actually Mexican. Brewer, for her part, gained national notoriety after fabricating tales of beheadings in the Arizona desert—which, as I wrote for Campus Progress at the time—generated support for her anti-immigrant political agenda while diverting public attention away from the reality that most of Arizona’s border violence is directed at immigrants, rather than perpetrated by them. Arizona’s countersuit against the federal government Brewer’s recent countersuit against the federal government—which alleges that Arizona is under invasion from the south and that the feds have failed to protect the state accordingly—similarly conjures nativist fantasies of immigrant-fueled border violence. But, as Scott Lemieux posits at TAPPED, the suit idly and transparently villainizes immigrants: It is (to put it mildly) a stretch to argue that Arizona is undergoing an “invasion.” Illegal immigration does not constitute a military threat or an attempt to overthrow the state government; anti-immigration metaphors are not a sound basis for constitutional interpretation. Like those propagated by state lawmakers during Arizona’s nativist heyday last spring, this new offensive belies the reality that, while anti-Latino hate crimes have risen by 52 percent nationally in recent years, border crime has been on the decline for quite some time—a fact noted by Alternet’s Julianne Escobedo Shepherd in her coverage of the countersuit. Yet, in an effort to further their extreme, anti-immigrant agenda, Arizona’s nativist lawmakers determinedly maintain the myth that Latin American immigration somehow generates a groundswell of violent crime—even when doing so requires the hasty revision of a rancher’s death, and the callous disregard of an innocent child’s murder. This post features links to the best independent, progressive reporting about immigration by members of The Media Consortium. It is free to reprint. Visit the Diaspora for a complete list of articles on immigration issues, or follow us on Twitter. And for the best progressive reporting on critical economy, environment, and health care issues, check out The Audit, The Mulch, and The Pulse. This is a project of The Media Consortium, a network of leading independent media outlets. http://theuptake.org/2011/02/17/weekly-diaspora-justice-for-brisenia-as- minutemen-leader-convicted-of-murders/
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#2. To: A K A Stone (#1)
#3. To: Ferret Mike (#2)
I didn't win many fights until High School where my gymnastic/dance instruction took a back seat to a newly discovered passion for Karate.
#4. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
#5. To: A K A Stone (#3)
#6. To: Ferret Mike (#2)
we need to give immigrants a route toward the end of becoming citizens should they want to.
#7. To: Fred Mertz (#5)
So, you're a tough guy, eh?
#8. To: A K A Stone (#3)
#9. To: hondo68 (#6)
#10. To: calcon (#4)
"if they're so fucking hard working then why is Mexico such an unflushed turd."
#11. To: Ferret Mike (#9)
(Edited)
I have no sympathy for anti-immigration talk.
#12. To: Ferret Mike (#9)
And Texas was originally part of Mexico
#13. To: Fred Jerx (#5)
#5. To: A K A Stone (#3)
#14. To: Ferret Mike (#9)
I am very much an immigration reform proponent.
#15. To: e_type_jag (#14)
#16. To: borntoweardiamonds (#12)
Over the next 110 years, Spain established numerous villages, presidios, and missions in the province. A small number of Spanish settlers arrived, in addition to missionaries and soldiers. Spain signed agreements with colonizers from the United States. When Mexico won its independence from Spain in 1821, Mexican Texas was part of the new nation. To encourage settlement, Mexican authorities allowed organized immigration from the United States, and by 1834, over 30,000 Anglos lived in Texas,[1] compared to only 7,800 Mexicans.[2]
#17. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
Meet the face of the new Texas: Jose Villagran, 39, first-generation Mexican American, four kids, suburbanite.
#18. To: Ferret Mike (#16)
When Mexico won its independence from Spain in 1821, Mexican Texas was part of the new nation. To encourage settlement, Mexican authorities allowed organized immigration from the United States, and by 1834, over 30,000 Anglos lived in Texas,[1] compared to only 7,800 Mexicans.[
#19. To: e_type_jag (#14)
#20. To: Capitalist Eric (#17)
#21. To: Murron (#15)
#22. To: hondo68 (#11)
#23. To: Rek (#18)
#24. To: Ferret Mike (#20)
Racist bait is not why I post, to the bozo you go.
#25. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
"There are more Mexicans here than ever before," Villagran, a buyer for a scrap metal company, says of Pasadena. "We've kind of taken over."
#26. To: no gnu taxes (#25)
#27. To: Ferret Mike (#26)
Got a citation to back the words of your urban legend?
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#28. To: Ferret Mike (#26)
Got a citation to back the words of your urban legend?
#29. To: no gnu taxes (#28)
"Not only do many of these folks do what I stated; they brag about it. "
#30. To: Ferret Mike (#29)
Again you have a focus to go after the easy target and show no irritation at the employer for any alleged violations.
#31. To: Ferret Mike, Capitalist Eric (#22)
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OK, so you posted this as well as your letter repeating it in internal mail.
Mexican racists disin' the homeboys, who can't walk because they have no Marihuana to smoke.
ya no puede caminar,
porque no tiene, por que le falta,
Marihuana que fumar"
#32. To: hondo68, Calcon, Capitalist Eric (#31)
#33. To: hondo68 (#11)
#34. To: Ferret Mike, hondo68, Calcon, (#32)
As for Eric's dehumanizing analogy that Mexicans are like scavenger insects, his application of the analogy was pointless and the post merely a taunt.
#35. To: Ferret Mike, no gnu taxes, e_type_jag, A K A Stone, Capitalist Eric, hondo68, borntoweardiamonds, (#29)
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"Not only do many of these folks do what I stated; they brag about it. " Again you have a focus to go after the easy target and show no irritation at the employer for any alleged violations.
#36. To: Murron (#35)
this work mandated to be done by law to create a sustained yield of timber
#37. To: Murron (#35)
#38. To: Murron (#35)
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"You are no hero for hiring Illegal Aliens above Americans, even if you do think they work harder, that is your opinion,"
"What you are is a TRAITOR to this nation and it's people who live here legally."
"It's the American people who deserve the 'Fair Wage' for their hard work, a home, bread for their children, a shot at a better future, not cowardly squatters who didn't have the courage to stay in their own country and fight for what's right, standing up for themselves, and demanding change in their own country, whether it be with a bullet or a ballot."
#39. To: hondo68 (#36)
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#40. To: Murron (#35)
"I focus my "WRATH" on YOU MIKE, and all bleeding heart TRAITORS who give Illegal Invading Parasites the green light to invade our country and push their way to the front of the line, stealing jobs, demanding rights and privileges they didn't have the guts to fight and die for in their beloved Mexico. "
#41. To: Murron (#35)
(Edited)
"I'll give you one example of who I would have more respect for, then you can have the floor. You have access to the internet, use it, get off that sanctified horse of yours and educate yourself."
"Don Alejo was riddled with bullets and with two weapons by his side. Alejo Garza Tamez was the owner of the ranch and a highly respected businessman in Nuevo Leon. A 77 year old man, who before death, took out four gunmen, fighting on his feet with dignity, courage, and honor."
Days after Arizona Governor Jan Brewer and Attorney General Tom Horne filed suit against the federal government for allegedly failing to protect the state from a Mexican “invasion,” the high- profile murder conviction of a Minutemen border vigilante underscores the state’s misguided border priorities.
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