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Title: FWIW: Tim Adams Signs Affidavit: ”No government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”
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State of the Nation
URL Source: http://state-of-the-nation.com/5571 ... ed-hawaii-hospital-time-birth/
Published: Jan 26, 2011
Author: SOTN/ Tim Adams
Post Date: 2011-02-14 17:43:08 by Murron
Keywords: Obama, birth certificate, Illegal Alien
Views: 131008
Comments: 161
Tim Adams Signs Affidavit: ”No government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.” January 26, 2011 “During the course of my employment, I came to understand that for political reasons, various officials in the government of Hawaii, including then-Governor Linda Lingle and various officials of the Hawaii Department of Health, including Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the director of the Hawaii Department of Health, were making representations that Senator Obama was born in Hawaii, even though no government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.” “I was told by senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division to stop inquiring about Senator Obama’s Hawaii birth records, even though it was common knowledge among my fellow employees that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama.” Adams conveyed to World Net Daily, “I can go get my long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate. And so I don’t understand, this whole controversy should have been settled three or four years ago in about five minutes.” Adams has stated in the past that he discounts the validity of the “short form” version of the Hawaiian birth record commonly issued to applicants which is called a “Certification of Live Birth”, the same document long attributed as the sole evidence used to proclaim Obama’s eligibility to occupy the White House. Until 2009, the Department of Hawaiian Homelands outright rejected this document as a primary form of identification for confirming native Hawaiian citizenship, let alone American natural born citizenship. Many officials, including Adams, explicitly have said the short-form Certification of Live Birth is not an authoritative form of documentation proving that Obama was born in Hawaii. “My basic assumption is that he wasn’t born there,” Adams continued in his interview with Dr. Corsi, “Certifications of Live Birth were given to people who were born at home, or to people who were born overseas and whose parents brought them back to the islands. If his parents were U.S. citizens, or if one parent was a U.S. citizen, as was the case with Obama, the family would apply for a Hawaiian birth certificate when the parents came back from overseas. That’s normally how you would have gotten on [a Certification of Live Birth] in the 1960s.” 
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#95. To: war (#93)
One interesting thing that didn't hit me until the case was over. They asked me if I objected to a federal observer in that case. I was unprepared for that question and said no. I wonder why they would do that?
If you honestly study the issue. You will concur that driving is a right.
I don't think it's practical to think about it as a rights issue. It has to be regulated for the common good.
It is a right that I do believe you could lose. Say you drive drunk or something. Or drive recklessly. But the premise always was (before the usurpers) that it was a right.
Stone, I have shown what you posted to several family members, all black, more christain than I am (thanks to the other g-mother), they are NOT OFFENDED, because they understood what you were saying, they were smart enough to know you are not a racist, and your anger is aimed at obama, not them. They are concervatives too, and they despise that socialist mongrel in WH, none of them voted for him and want what we all want, you owe no one an apology, not them, not me, and most certainly not some anonymous white man who does not speak for them. But it is up to you whether you will be pressured into silence.
Enabler.
Morning Fred. 8D "It is a term that says the user is a racist. No other way around it. If you called a friend or relative that insult to their face and I was there, we would immediately scrap. Make no mistake about it. I am highly offended." 8D
And how do you have "my number?" I have the thread you started trying to associate me with two men many years younger than me with names close to mine trying to form an association with me to these sexual predators. You accused Robin of feeding information to me, which tells me you were writing her trying character assassination of me with her. You are an insane piece of shit who doesn't have two live brain cells to rub together for warmth, never mind to form thought. You act and sound like you have been into your relatives meth bag, and I know local bag ladies with more class than you have with your ignorant social and mental cripple act. You talked about winning at chess, game, set, and match confusing it with tennis when you thought you had me banned once. And you talk about "scoring points which further shows you to think this is some kind of sick snuff the other poster competition. Go screw yourself, you old bag. Everyone around you at your home area has your number judging by the threads I've read on that local board of yours'.
And here you are, still at it trying to do character assassination. I don't give a shit about people you are spoon feeding a biased account about an imaginary run you your dubious posting career, bitch. Grow up and get a life.
Unfortunately war is correct. Driving is considered a privilege, not a right in legal circles. I even got a letter last October as I didn't have liability insurance on my Ford Windstar as I had it on blocks because I was replacing the shocks and struts before doing a brake job on the front. They really go out of the way these days to make sure people are legal in every sense of the word when they drive, even if it is pushy and nosy to a fault.
As a bicycling advocate agree once again from knowledge of the issue. One can get a ticket for talking on your cell phone, or go to jail for drunk driving on a bicycle. If you ride on some highways where bikes are banned you are going to get a huge ticket. This privilege aspect of conveyance is very firmly ensconced into transportation law. I have never seen anyone get anywhere trying to argue in court otherwise. Good luck trying, but unfortunately, you will get nowhere with that angle of attack on the issue.
That is one way one can get out of the local jail if in on a minor charge after four days. If one does not eat for four days, they are required to force feed at the hospital. That is expensive and they won't do it. I don't know what the policy is in your local adult confinement facility, but I imagine it's much the same.
I don't support abortion, Stone. And yet I get the issue thrown at me all the time because of where I am generally on the political spectrum. That is getting a tad old. Let's stick to the issue of offensive use of racist words. You have a whole language called Americanized English to express any sentiment you wish without stooping to that linguistic and divisive low. Don't change the subject; leave other issues for other threads on it, and don't pick on me about abortion. The genocide of black babies is precisely a key reason I loathe the practice, and I don't like being told my omission at mentioning it every damn time I debate someone on another issue means I'm for it. It means the thread was not about it. That's why I didn't mention it, and I get it thrown at me because of the views of others on it who are liberal. That's fucked up.
What are you shooting up, you stupid bitch? I don't want to control this or any other site you delusional shit bird. The power struggle is a mirage. You are conflicted and creating a struggle in your own brain, an organ all too thinly populated with brain cells. Dumb shit. First of all, I am not a Democrat. I belong to the Pacific Green Party. Second of all, I just post here, like you. If you have trouble dealing with that, go get counseling for this thing you have going inside your head. I am also a native born American, own my own laptops and desktop. I also own Compaq ProLiant servers and other machines from my days of building machines from donated computers at Free Geek in Portland donating my time to help others who donate time themselves of submit a grant for machines. Dumb shit.
Interesting how this thread got hijacked from the only real and uncontested documentation concerning Soetoro's birth to one about racism. Aren't the ramifications of the thread enough to rivet attention without dragging racism into it by the hair to deflect attention? /s
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Aren't the ramifications of the thread enough to rivet attention without dragging racism into it by the hair to deflect attention? /s That is exactly what Mike's intentions were, and are, to divert the focus from the originl topic. He ignored the threads topic, documents..ect, scanned through the posts and found his target, Stone, and turned this into his own personal crusade.
Paul Nazzarino. The above is the only guy I ever lost to growing up. He was half my size. I'll take a big guy over a little guy any day.
Dumb shit, I signed on and saw Stone's comment with the offensive word and went from there. According to you, I studied the current threads, figured out the best way to divert from a topic to end the forum and life as we know it on this planet and went from there. I mean, don't you even ET how insane you sound? You are only focused on getting me banned, and I don't care if I am banned or not. That is totally Stone's call. I just post as honestly and as objectively as possible and let th chips fall as they may. All I see is an insane woman fixated on getting me banned. Get a life.
This wedge issue concerning President Barack Obama, born in Hawaii is an ongoing thing and when racism was interjected overtly in the mix became a good focus of why this issue even is there. This is a metaphor meant to tab racist sentiments in a way that gives it a sense of plausible denial as to what energies are being tapped to try to propel this to plausibility. Ultimately this story has no legs and will go nowhere. But the point of this advocacy is to tap latent racist sentiment to use it in a manner to try to use racist inertia, and racist feelings to get at Obama.
Bottom linie is that it is moronic to believe that he was born anywhere OTHER than Hawaii.
Indeed. This is a tempest in a teapot that will get these people no where. On top of the fact he was born i Hawaii, he is a well educated Christian former professor who is as American culturally and background-wise as you can find. I mean, Schwarzenegger seems far less American with his accent and background as a native born Austrian, a dad who was a minor official in Nazi occupied Austria, and instead of getting a similar disparagement, there was talk early in his first term as California Governor of changing the U.S. Constitution to allow him to run for POTUS. I bet some of those conservatives who advocated that are now deeply ensconced into the birfer movement. Crazier and crazier.
He's black. That's all there is to it.
Heh, yep; that sums it up. Though really, I have very Irish hazel blue eyes, baby fine light brown hair and much darker skin than I've ever seen President Obama with because I'm outside in the sun so much. Part of the blessing of being a Quarter Puerto Rican is my height and stockiness, and oily skin that has never, ever been sunburned. When I lived in North Carolina, I was as dark or darker than my wife who is mostly African American, go figure.
She's simply being Boofer's dummy here. And for Mammy to accuse anyone of thread jacking is like Al Capone calling John Gotti immoral.
"What your ignorant posters here do not know is, I am a student of Civil Law, I have a slew of attorneys working for me and the children. Since my daughter has left this filthy appartement complex '[deleted]', she has been living a clean life at home (ranch) with her father and mother. Their sick, twisted, since of humore will not be so funny when their ISP addies, and real identities are tracked down, and my attorneys, and the Juvenile Judge, summons them before her court to answer for their cruel attacks and lies they have spead upon your site, Yahoo. Years of studing Law has taught me that preparation with facts is what this Judge will want, and she will receive. There are laws on the books to protect the innocent, and we plan to procecute these people who ignrantly believe they are anonymous to the fullest extent of the law, and then we will take up Civil Action after the Judge informs them that they are all guilty of Slanders and Slurs, and I will ask for the largest amount of restituion the court will allow." She's angry too at my pointing out she plagiarized a screed to you from the Muppet's Scrooge special. You probably missed that as she posted it after you kill filed the dumb shit. She hates it when her attempts at sounding like a player in the creative writing field get exposed as cut and paste. The above quote is by her from a local Yahoo forum where she goes off on a roll trying to impress all there with her ability as a legal researcher and writer. Need I say more? Her lack of writing ability - especially when she's hysterical - is legend.
Is there any sense of the word "coherent" that has been left unviolated in the above? Their sick, twisted, since of humore... WTF is a "since of humore"? There are laws on the books to protect the innocent, and we plan to procecute [sic] these people who ignrantly [sic] believe they are anonymous to the fullest extent of the law... How does one go about being "anonymous to the fullest extent of the law"?
You said it. You should see how this completely destroyed her effort at generating fear and trepidation in those who's bow she was firing a shot over. If anything, reading the thread it looks like they wee only in danger of dying from laughter at her words. They tore her up through the whole run of that series of exchanges.
They should take her internet away.
What did you think of Pens/Islanders debacle? I agree with Mario. You leave the bench to protect a player it's 10 games. But you can elbow, pummel and taunt and only get nine., Such a deal!!!
Oh, I've been meaning to look that up and see what all the fuss was about. It seems odd to me that brawls break out in the middle of a sporting event though. Why was that ever tolerated. Throw the bums out. I do remember the bench-clearing brawls of the seventies fondly, though. lol
This went beyond fighting.
This is a metaphor meant to tab racist sentiments in a way that gives it a sense of plausible denial as to what energies are being tapped to try to propel this to plausibility. Ultimately this story has no legs and will go nowhere. But the point of this advocacy is to tap latent racist sentiment to use it in a manner to try to use racist inertia, and racist feelings to get at Obama. You are full of shit. No racism. Obama was called a NIGGER because he is piece of shit destroyer of the nation. That makes him a nigger. Take Herman Cain. He would never be called one because he is not evil like Obama. Nothing racist about it. I'm not going to debate it. You wanna call me a racist then just say it to me so that I can delete you permanently. That is to anyone and everyone.
I suspect, but can't swear by it, that since you have shown courage and will not be intimidated, that maybe the next move will for one of these liberal freaks to register under yet another goofy ppseudonym and start posting really nasty, honest to goodness 'racist' threads, just to make their point this site is racist because we refuse to bow to their socialist bastard, but I trust you'll know them when you see them! jmho
You apparently haven't read anything posted by no gnu taxes or Happy Quanzaa, both Stone favorites.
In August of 2008, the former Democrat Party of Hawaii’s chairman, Brian Schatz, who now serves as Hawaii’s lieutenant governor, then refused to certify Obama’s constitutional eligibility for submission to the Hawaiian Elections Office for inclusion on the 2008 Hawaiian presidential ballot because he was either not able to locate originally documented proof that Obama is constitutionally eligible to serve as president, or he was provided with an original record of Obama’s birth which confirmatively proves he is not eligible to be president. If Obama’s records actually existed within the state of Hawaii, Schatz, as the head of the Democrat party’s authority in Hawaii and personal supporter of Obama, would have requested access to them. The "Identity Protection Law", HRS 338-18, often cited by Hawaiian officials as justification for denying access to Obama's records would not apply in a request from Schatz because the law states that a request for someone's vital records must be for tangible reasons. It was Schatz' duty to vet Obama's elibility for the office of the presidency. This is a "tangible reason". Therefore, the Hawaiian Department of Health would have released Obama's birth records to Schatz if they existed. The fact that Schatz refused to certify Obama's eligibility proves the records do not exist. . Using the information in any original records, Schatz would have assessed Obama’s constitutional eligibility and, therefore, if upon confirming that Obama was a Natural-born citizen, would have authorized an Official Certification of Nomination (OCON) which would have included the explicit language required by HRS 11-113(c)(1)(B) thereby enabling the Hawaiian Chief Elections Officer, Kevin Cronin, to approve Obama’s placement on the Hawaiian ballot. However, Schatz did not do this. Then, scandalously, one day after Schatz filed the DPH’s non-certification, the Democrat National Committee (DNC), chaired by Nancy Pelosi, issued a fraudulent Certification stating that Obama was constitutionally eligible to serve as president, even though the DNC had no original documented evidence to support such a claim. On January 20th, 2010, Adams signed a sworn affidavit which reasserts testimony he gave in an interview with WLRM radio’s James Edwards, in early June of 2010, when he first publicly said that the state of Hawaii does not possess an original “long-form”, 1961 Certificate of Live Birth on file for Barack Obama, and therefore, Obama could not possibly have been born in the state of Hawaii. In the interview, Adams said, “There is no birth certificate – it’s like an open secret. There just isn’t one. Everyone in the government in Hawaii knows this.” Adams managed the Absentee Ballot Office of the Honolulu County and City Elections Office. He served as the Senior Elections Supervising Clerk during the 2008 election and had access to vital records in his primary duty of verifying voters’ identities. Overseeing approximately 45 workers, it was his job to confirm the personal information of voters in collaboration with absentee balloting. While serving in the Honolulu office of elections, Adams also checked with both major medical facilities in the city, Kapi’olani Medical Center and Queens Medical Center and was told by administrators of both hospitals that they possessed no medically verified record of Obama’s birth in their facilities, including any birth certificate signed by a doctor or hospital administrator. Even to this date, no hospital in Hawaii, nor any agency within the government of the State of Hawaii has ever verified or confirmed possession of any original records documenting Obama’s 1961 birth there. EXCERPTS: "...(Nancy) Pelosi committed fraud by certifying 0bama’s eligibility" Democrat National Committee (DNC), chaired by Nancy Pelosi, issued a fraudulent Certification (below) stating that Obama was constitutionally eligible to serve as president, even though the DNC had no original documented evidence to support such a claim. The Hawaiian Democratic Party refused to sign off on a certification that Barak Hussein 0bama II was eligible to be president. Instead, Nancy Pelosi herself signed that Hawaiian certification. The possible reason: the attorney who approved all legal paperwork that required signatures by the HDP just happened to be the same attorney who handled 0bama’s mother's divorce from her Indonesian husband. That attorney had seen 0bama’s original long form birth certificate. This also means Pelosi committed fraud by certifying 0bama’s eligibility. The proper legal text used on the DNC Party "Official Certification of Nomination" document (below) reads as follows; "THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution." The document is signed by Chair of the DNC Convention and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, DNC Secretary Alice Travis Germond and Colorado Notary of Public Shalifa A. Williamson. It is dated August 28, 2008. However, this document was never delivered to a single state DNC Office for state certification, and it was therefore, never presented to any state Election Commission as certification of Obama and Biden. Instead, a very similar (bogus)document (below) was delivered to fifty state DNC offices, that those offices certified to each of fifty state Election Commissions, who then date-stamped the document and stuck it in a file cabinet, and proceeded to place these "certified" candidates on the ballot. This is the legal certification text on the DNC certified nomination document used for the DNC ticket: "THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively." The reference to Obama’s constitutional eligibility is missing. It had been removed from the document sent to the states. The bogus version is in the Election Commission files of all fifty state Election Commission offices, and state DNC headquarters, complete with date stamps, matching signatures, even the same Notary of Public authentication. The proper legal text used on the DNC Party "Official Certification of Nomination" The similar document was delivered to fifty state DNC offices
You SERIOUSLY need to get some oxygen to your brain. Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" That's (was) her primary function: zero morals procurerenabler.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Oh will you just shut the fuck up you stupid old bag
If she did that who would keep reposting all of this old WND crap?
Maybe we could make a deal with Goldi and trade her for Magician. He'll fulfill the WND quota and we can get him talking about how black people ruin everything.
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#96. To: Abu el Banat, war, fred mertz (#94)
http://razoreye.net/downloads/driving_is_a_right.pdf
#97. To: A K A Stone (#96)
#98. To: Abu el Banat (#97)
#99. To: A K A Stone (#80)
#100. To: Murron (#99)
#101. To: Fred Mertz, Ferret Mike, All (#100)
Enabler.
#102. To: Murron (#78)
#103. To: Murron (#99)
"Stone, I have shown what you posted to several family members, all black, more christain than I am (thanks to the other g-mother), they are NOT OFFENDED, because they understood what you were saying, they were smart enough to know you are not a racist, and your anger is aimed at obama, not them."
#104. To: war, A K A Stone (#93)
#105. To: war (#90)
"Nope. Riding a bike isn't even a right. The only transportation that is protected is that done by your own two feet. Interstate movement can be controlled by the Feds and intrastate by local authority."
#106. To: A K A Stone (#86)
"I didn't eat a bite."
#107. To: A K A Stone (#79)
"Mike you get upset at a word. But you support a man who supports the murder of about 2000 black babies every day. You don't get worked up about that but about a word. Something is wrong with that Mike."
#108. To: Murron (#78)
"He is not here to debate issues, he's here to force his race-card carrying leftist political beliefs on you, a power struggle to control you, and this site."
"He scores points every time you apologize to him, stop it, you don't owe any damn democrat an apology, let that pisher go somewhere and start his own love- in site for Obama."
#109. To: All (#0)
#110. To: Rudgear, A K A Stone, ALL (#109)
Interesting how this thread got hijacked from the only real and uncontested documentation concerning Soetoro's birth to one about racism.
#111. To: Ferret Mike (#68)
I would say that face to face, you are very welcome to think your size will win you a fight. It always seems to be that way with bigger guys anyway.
#112. To: Murron (#110)
"That is exactly what Mike's intentions were, and are, to divert the focus from the originl topic. He ignored the threads topic, documents..ect, scanned through the posts and found his target, Stone, and turned this into his own personal crusade."
#113. To: Rudgear (#109)
"Interesting how this thread got hijacked from the only real and uncontested documentation concerning Soetoro's birth to one about racism."
#114. To: Ferret Mike (#113)
#115. To: war (#114)
#116. To: Ferret Mike (#115)
#117. To: Skip Intro (#116)
#118. To: Ferret Mike (#112)
#119. To: war (#118)
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#120. To: Ferret Mike (#119)
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Since my daughter has left this filthy appartement complex '[deleted]', she has been living a clean life at home (ranch) with her father and mother.
#121. To: war (#120)
#122. To: Ferret Mike (#121)
#123. To: Abu el Banat (#122)
#124. To: war (#123)
#125. To: Abu el Banat (#124)
#126. To: Ferret Mike, Skip intro (#113)
This wedge issue concerning President Barack Obama, born in Hawaii is an ongoing thing and when racism was interjected overtly in the mix became a good focus of why this issue even is there.
#127. To: A K A Stone (#126)
#128. To: Murron (#127)
start posting really nasty, honest to goodness 'racist' threads, just to make their point this site is racist because we refuse to bow to their socialist bastard, but I trust you'll know them when you see them! jmho
#129. To: All (#0)
Third Hawaiian Official Denies Existence of Birth Certificate
#130. To: Skip Intro (#7)
Great idea Stone. Why don't you and Eric the Red try and follow through with it?
#131. To: Murron (#129)
#132. To: Murron (#127)
#133. To: Abu el Banat (#132)
Oh will you just shut the fuck up you stupid old bag
#134. To: Skip Intro (#133)
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