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Title: FWIW: Tim Adams Signs Affidavit: ”No government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”
Source: State of the Nation
URL Source: http://state-of-the-nation.com/5571 ... ed-hawaii-hospital-time-birth/
Published: Jan 26, 2011
Author: SOTN/ Tim Adams
Post Date: 2011-02-14 17:43:08 by Murron
Keywords: Obama, birth certificate, Illegal Alien
Views: 130991
Comments: 161

Tim Adams Signs Affidavit: ”No government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”

January 26, 2011

“During the course of my employment, I came to understand that for political reasons, various officials in the government of Hawaii, including then-Governor Linda Lingle and various officials of the Hawaii Department of Health, including Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the director of the Hawaii Department of Health, were making representations that Senator Obama was born in Hawaii, even though no government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”

“I was told by senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division to stop inquiring about Senator Obama’s Hawaii birth records, even though it was common knowledge among my fellow employees that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama.”

Adams conveyed to World Net Daily, “I can go get my long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate. And so I don’t understand, this whole controversy should have been settled three or four years ago in about five minutes.”

Adams has stated in the past that he discounts the validity of the “short form” version of the Hawaiian birth record commonly issued to applicants which is called a “Certification of Live Birth”, the same document long attributed as the sole evidence used to proclaim Obama’s eligibility to occupy the White House. Until 2009, the Department of Hawaiian Homelands outright rejected this document as a primary form of identification for confirming native Hawaiian citizenship, let alone American natural born citizenship.

Many officials, including Adams, explicitly have said the short-form Certification of Live Birth is not an authoritative form of documentation proving that Obama was born in Hawaii.

“My basic assumption is that he wasn’t born there,” Adams continued in his interview with Dr. Corsi, “Certifications of Live Birth were given to people who were born at home, or to people who were born overseas and whose parents brought them back to the islands. If his parents were U.S. citizens, or if one parent was a U.S. citizen, as was the case with Obama, the family would apply for a Hawaiian birth certificate when the parents came back from overseas. That’s normally how you would have gotten on [a Certification of Live Birth] in the 1960s.”

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#78. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone (#76) (Edited)

You're pressuring Stone into bowing to the RACE CARD, shakedown artist Jesse Jackson, and that fat assed Al Sharpton have nothing on you. You're telling Stone what speech will be permitted on HIS OWN website, and threatening him with leaving if he doesn't, not to mention highjacking other members thread for your own AGENDA!

I don't SUCK UP to anyone you low-life liberal POS, I got your number you two- faced forked tongue euro weenie, and you hate me for it.

Stone, this is either your site, or a site that can be ruled by democratic liberal dictators, ordering you to watch what you say.

Mike is a sniveling liberal who is demanding you have respect for someone who is destroying this nation, he grovels at the feet of this filthy babykiller, and I don't give a flying rats ass if anything Obama is called offends him, because there is no love lost.

He is not here to debate issues, he's here to force his race-card carrying leftist political beliefs on you, a power struggle to control you, and this site.

He scores points everytime you apologize to him, stop it, you don't owe any damn democrat an apology, let that pisher go somewhere and start his own love- in site for Obama.

LibertysFlame, is it Conservative, or Liberal? Who owns this site, you or him, a tree hugging leftard, euro-weenie environmentalist who posts from some rented PC in a cafe?

Murron  posted on  2011-02-15   4:25:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Ferret Mike (#70)

Mike you get upset at a word. But you support a man who supports the murder of about 2000 black babies every day. You don't get worked up about that but about a word. Something is wrong with that Mike.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-15   7:22:10 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Murron (#78)

He scores points everytime you apologize to him, stop it, you don't owe any damn democrat an apology, let that pisher go somewhere and start his own love- in site for Obama.

LibertysFlame, is it Conservative, or Liberal? Who owns this site, you or him, a tree hugging leftard, euro-weenie environmentalist who posts from some rented PC in a cafe?

I was thinking of you too when I said sorry.

It is a conservative run site where people can post articles from a lot of perspectives. Not all but a lot.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-15   7:27:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Ferret Mike (#77)

Talk at you later. And don't drive if your license is still suspended. Jail sucks.

Driving is a right.

I do have a license though. Got one a couple of years ago under duress.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-15   7:29:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Murron (#0)

There seems to be some information missing from the notary's stamp; namely the notary's ID number and expiration date.

www.xstamperonline.com/ca...N-bjfauiqcCFRg8gwodf02FfA

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-15   9:41:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: A K A Stone (#81)

Driving is a privilege, numbnuts.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-02-15   9:42:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Fred Mertz (#83)

Driving is a right. Do the research. Before the usurpers gained power there were numerous court decisions detailing this.

It is a privelage for say a bus or a taxi. But it is a citizens right.

You love the government. You think we have a good wonderful just government that always follows the constitution and the laws.

Next time use google before you open your obama hole.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-15   9:45:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: A K A Stone (#84)

How was prison food?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-02-15   9:47:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Fred Mertz (#85)

I didn't eat a bite.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-15   9:49:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Fred Mertz (#85)

If it was local it was mystery meat on white bread.

war  posted on  2011-02-15   9:50:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: A K A Stone (#86)

How was the bathroom?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-02-15   9:53:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: A K A Stone (#86)

I hope you didn't sleep on your stomach side.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-02-15   9:54:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: A K A Stone (#84)

Driving is a right.

Nope. Riding a bike isn't even a right. The only transportation that is protected is that done by your own two feet. Interstate movement can be controlled by the Feds and intrastate by local authority.

war  posted on  2011-02-15   9:55:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: war (#90)

I had a 30 page brief that I filed that driving was a right. It was a copy from a Pennsylvania case. The only time I ever fought it that way they dismissed the charges. Driving is a right.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-15   9:57:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Fred Mertz (#89)

I spent two nights there Fred. I didn't sleep much as they were torturing me.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-15   9:58:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: A K A Stone (#91)

I had a 30 page brief that I filed that driving was a right. It was a copy from a Pennsylvania case. The only time I ever fought it that way they dismissed the charges. Driving is a right.

Nope. And I highky doubt that it was that argument that prevailed in the dismissal.

Dozens, probably hundreds, of cases a year so asserting get dismissed because it's settled law.

Free movement is a right. The use of a conveyance is not. Wagons, wagon wheels, surreys, all taxed backk in the day.

war  posted on  2011-02-15   10:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: war (#93)

When I was a kid I felt I owned the sidewalk with my wagon.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-02-15   10:03:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: war (#93)

One interesting thing that didn't hit me until the case was over. They asked me if I objected to a federal observer in that case. I was unprepared for that question and said no. I wonder why they would do that?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-15   10:05:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Abu el Banat, war, fred mertz (#94)

http://razoreye.net/downloads/driving_is_a_right.pdf

If you honestly study the issue. You will concur that driving is a right.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-15   10:07:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: A K A Stone (#96)

I don't think it's practical to think about it as a rights issue. It has to be regulated for the common good.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-02-15   10:09:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Abu el Banat (#97)

It is a right that I do believe you could lose. Say you drive drunk or something. Or drive recklessly. But the premise always was (before the usurpers) that it was a right.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-15   10:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: A K A Stone (#80)

Stone, I have shown what you posted to several family members, all black, more christain than I am (thanks to the other g-mother), they are NOT OFFENDED, because they understood what you were saying, they were smart enough to know you are not a racist, and your anger is aimed at obama, not them. They are concervatives too, and they despise that socialist mongrel in WH, none of them voted for him and want what we all want, you owe no one an apology, not them, not me, and most certainly not some anonymous white man who does not speak for them.

But it is up to you whether you will be pressured into silence.

Murron  posted on  2011-02-15   10:17:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Murron (#99)

Enabler.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-02-15   10:27:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Fred Mertz, Ferret Mike, All (#100)

Enabler.

Morning Fred. 8D

"It is a term that says the user is a racist. No other way around it. If you called a friend or relative that insult to their face and I was there, we would immediately scrap. Make no mistake about it. I am highly offended."

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-02-15   10:52:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Murron (#78)

And how do you have "my number?" I have the thread you started trying to associate me with two men many years younger than me with names close to mine trying to form an association with me to these sexual predators.

You accused Robin of feeding information to me, which tells me you were writing her trying character assassination of me with her.

You are an insane piece of shit who doesn't have two live brain cells to rub together for warmth, never mind to form thought.

You act and sound like you have been into your relatives meth bag, and I know local bag ladies with more class than you have with your ignorant social and mental cripple act.

You talked about winning at chess, game, set, and match confusing it with tennis when you thought you had me banned once. And you talk about "scoring points which further shows you to think this is some kind of sick snuff the other poster competition.

Go screw yourself, you old bag. Everyone around you at your home area has your number judging by the threads I've read on that local board of yours'.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-15   11:21:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Murron (#99)

"Stone, I have shown what you posted to several family members, all black, more christain than I am (thanks to the other g-mother), they are NOT OFFENDED, because they understood what you were saying, they were smart enough to know you are not a racist, and your anger is aimed at obama, not them."

And here you are, still at it trying to do character assassination. I don't give a shit about people you are spoon feeding a biased account about an imaginary run you your dubious posting career, bitch.

Grow up and get a life.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-15   11:25:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: war, A K A Stone (#93)

Unfortunately war is correct. Driving is considered a privilege, not a right in legal circles. I even got a letter last October as I didn't have liability insurance on my Ford Windstar as I had it on blocks because I was replacing the shocks and struts before doing a brake job on the front.

They really go out of the way these days to make sure people are legal in every sense of the word when they drive, even if it is pushy and nosy to a fault.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-15   11:29:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: war (#90)

"Nope. Riding a bike isn't even a right. The only transportation that is protected is that done by your own two feet. Interstate movement can be controlled by the Feds and intrastate by local authority."

As a bicycling advocate agree once again from knowledge of the issue. One can get a ticket for talking on your cell phone, or go to jail for drunk driving on a bicycle. If you ride on some highways where bikes are banned you are going to get a huge ticket.

This privilege aspect of conveyance is very firmly ensconced into transportation law. I have never seen anyone get anywhere trying to argue in court otherwise. Good luck trying, but unfortunately, you will get nowhere with that angle of attack on the issue.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-15   11:33:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: A K A Stone (#86)

"I didn't eat a bite."

That is one way one can get out of the local jail if in on a minor charge after four days. If one does not eat for four days, they are required to force feed at the hospital. That is expensive and they won't do it.

I don't know what the policy is in your local adult confinement facility, but I imagine it's much the same.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-15   11:36:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: A K A Stone (#79)

"Mike you get upset at a word. But you support a man who supports the murder of about 2000 black babies every day. You don't get worked up about that but about a word. Something is wrong with that Mike."

I don't support abortion, Stone. And yet I get the issue thrown at me all the time because of where I am generally on the political spectrum. That is getting a tad old.

Let's stick to the issue of offensive use of racist words.

You have a whole language called Americanized English to express any sentiment you wish without stooping to that linguistic and divisive low.

Don't change the subject; leave other issues for other threads on it, and don't pick on me about abortion.

The genocide of black babies is precisely a key reason I loathe the practice, and I don't like being told my omission at mentioning it every damn time I debate someone on another issue means I'm for it.

It means the thread was not about it. That's why I didn't mention it, and I get it thrown at me because of the views of others on it who are liberal. That's fucked up.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-15   11:43:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Murron (#78)

"He is not here to debate issues, he's here to force his race-card carrying leftist political beliefs on you, a power struggle to control you, and this site."

What are you shooting up, you stupid bitch? I don't want to control this or any other site you delusional shit bird. The power struggle is a mirage. You are conflicted and creating a struggle in your own brain, an organ all too thinly populated with brain cells.

Dumb shit.

"He scores points every time you apologize to him, stop it, you don't owe any damn democrat an apology, let that pisher go somewhere and start his own love- in site for Obama."

First of all, I am not a Democrat. I belong to the Pacific Green Party. Second of all, I just post here, like you. If you have trouble dealing with that, go get counseling for this thing you have going inside your head.

I am also a native born American, own my own laptops and desktop. I also own Compaq ProLiant servers and other machines from my days of building machines from donated computers at Free Geek in Portland donating my time to help others who donate time themselves of submit a grant for machines.

Dumb shit.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-15   11:54:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: All (#0)

Interesting how this thread got hijacked from the only real and uncontested documentation concerning Soetoro's birth to one about racism.

Aren't the ramifications of the thread enough to rivet attention without dragging racism into it by the hair to deflect attention? /s

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-02-15   11:56:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Rudgear, A K A Stone, ALL (#109)

Interesting how this thread got hijacked from the only real and uncontested documentation concerning Soetoro's birth to one about racism.

Aren't the ramifications of the thread enough to rivet attention without dragging racism into it by the hair to deflect attention? /s

That is exactly what Mike's intentions were, and are, to divert the focus from the originl topic. He ignored the threads topic, documents..ect, scanned through the posts and found his target, Stone, and turned this into his own personal crusade.

Murron  posted on  2011-02-15   12:10:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Ferret Mike (#68)

I would say that face to face, you are very welcome to think your size will win you a fight. It always seems to be that way with bigger guys anyway.

Paul Nazzarino.

The above is the only guy I ever lost to growing up. He was half my size.

I'll take a big guy over a little guy any day.

war  posted on  2011-02-15   12:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Murron (#110)

"That is exactly what Mike's intentions were, and are, to divert the focus from the originl topic. He ignored the threads topic, documents..ect, scanned through the posts and found his target, Stone, and turned this into his own personal crusade."

Dumb shit, I signed on and saw Stone's comment with the offensive word and went from there.

According to you, I studied the current threads, figured out the best way to divert from a topic to end the forum and life as we know it on this planet and went from there.

I mean, don't you even ET how insane you sound? You are only focused on getting me banned, and I don't care if I am banned or not.

That is totally Stone's call. I just post as honestly and as objectively as possible and let th chips fall as they may.

All I see is an insane woman fixated on getting me banned. Get a life.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-15   13:28:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Rudgear (#109)

"Interesting how this thread got hijacked from the only real and uncontested documentation concerning Soetoro's birth to one about racism."

This wedge issue concerning President Barack Obama, born in Hawaii is an ongoing thing and when racism was interjected overtly in the mix became a good focus of why this issue even is there.

This is a metaphor meant to tab racist sentiments in a way that gives it a sense of plausible denial as to what energies are being tapped to try to propel this to plausibility.

Ultimately this story has no legs and will go nowhere. But the point of this advocacy is to tap latent racist sentiment to use it in a manner to try to use racist inertia, and racist feelings to get at Obama.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-15   13:34:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Ferret Mike (#113)

Bottom linie is that it is moronic to believe that he was born anywhere OTHER than Hawaii.

war  posted on  2011-02-15   13:57:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: war (#114)

Indeed. This is a tempest in a teapot that will get these people no where.

On top of the fact he was born i Hawaii, he is a well educated Christian former professor who is as American culturally and background-wise as you can find.

I mean, Schwarzenegger seems far less American with his accent and background as a native born Austrian, a dad who was a minor official in Nazi occupied Austria, and instead of getting a similar disparagement, there was talk early in his first term as California Governor of changing the U.S. Constitution to allow him to run for POTUS.

I bet some of those conservatives who advocated that are now deeply ensconced into the birfer movement. Crazier and crazier.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-15   14:06:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Ferret Mike (#115)

He's black.

That's all there is to it.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-15   14:08:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Skip Intro (#116)

Heh, yep; that sums it up.

Though really, I have very Irish hazel blue eyes, baby fine light brown hair and much darker skin than I've ever seen President Obama with because I'm outside in the sun so much.

Part of the blessing of being a Quarter Puerto Rican is my height and stockiness, and oily skin that has never, ever been sunburned.

When I lived in North Carolina, I was as dark or darker than my wife who is mostly African American, go figure.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-15   14:15:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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