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Title: FWIW: Tim Adams Signs Affidavit: ”No government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”
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State of the Nation
URL Source: http://state-of-the-nation.com/5571 ... ed-hawaii-hospital-time-birth/
Published: Jan 26, 2011
Author: SOTN/ Tim Adams
Post Date: 2011-02-14 17:43:08 by Murron
Keywords: Obama, birth certificate, Illegal Alien
Views: 130653
Comments: 161
Tim Adams Signs Affidavit: ”No government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.” January 26, 2011 “During the course of my employment, I came to understand that for political reasons, various officials in the government of Hawaii, including then-Governor Linda Lingle and various officials of the Hawaii Department of Health, including Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the director of the Hawaii Department of Health, were making representations that Senator Obama was born in Hawaii, even though no government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.” “I was told by senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division to stop inquiring about Senator Obama’s Hawaii birth records, even though it was common knowledge among my fellow employees that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama.” Adams conveyed to World Net Daily, “I can go get my long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate. And so I don’t understand, this whole controversy should have been settled three or four years ago in about five minutes.” Adams has stated in the past that he discounts the validity of the “short form” version of the Hawaiian birth record commonly issued to applicants which is called a “Certification of Live Birth”, the same document long attributed as the sole evidence used to proclaim Obama’s eligibility to occupy the White House. Until 2009, the Department of Hawaiian Homelands outright rejected this document as a primary form of identification for confirming native Hawaiian citizenship, let alone American natural born citizenship. Many officials, including Adams, explicitly have said the short-form Certification of Live Birth is not an authoritative form of documentation proving that Obama was born in Hawaii. “My basic assumption is that he wasn’t born there,” Adams continued in his interview with Dr. Corsi, “Certifications of Live Birth were given to people who were born at home, or to people who were born overseas and whose parents brought them back to the islands. If his parents were U.S. citizens, or if one parent was a U.S. citizen, as was the case with Obama, the family would apply for a Hawaiian birth certificate when the parents came back from overseas. That’s normally how you would have gotten on [a Certification of Live Birth] in the 1960s.” 
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He is an illegal alien. His purpose is to break us.
He's doing a damn good job of it. I didn't know if anyone here interested in this topic had seen these documents, I hadn't, that's why I posted them. BTW, off topic, HAPPY VALENTINE's Day stone....&;-)
I saw that document a week or two ago. I posted it within a thread. It does deserve its own thread. The Obama kool aid drinkers don't want the truth though. They can't handle the truth.
Happy Valentines day to you too.
Now what? I mean, what happens now? How do we get this shitbag out of the White House?
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" I guess we wait until an election. Unless someone in the secret service decides to get rid of him.
Great idea Stone. Why don't you and Eric the Red try and follow through with it?
What are you talking about? Who is Eric the Red? Is he a patriotic secret service agent? If so he could arrest Obama for not being a citizen.
Birth announcements appeared in two different Honolulu newspapers announcing the August 4, 1961 birth of Barack Obama: On what evidence does he base this assumption?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
bamis mommy wanted to get her british son American citizenship. Happens all the time. Even Crissy piss down his legs Matthews admits Obama has no birth certificate.
what evidence do you have to support this claim?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
On the FACT that no one even Hawaiis Governor can come up with a birth certificate. Who is the doctor that delivered Obama again?
Surely you're joking. Evidence? Evidence is the Devil's work to loons like Stone.
what evidence do you or anyone else have that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
Lack of birth certificate and common sense. One thing you liberals should face. Is that a lot of people know that Obama has no birth certificate now. A lot of people who don't pay a lot of attention know/believe that now. It is going to be a big factor in the next election.
We have a birth announcement and a validated birth certificate issue by the state of Hawaii. Now again, what evidence do you have that he wasn't born in the U.S.? It's a simple question, answer it.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
I suppose A K A was born on Mars. After all, he can't prove that he wasn't.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
I'm still waiting for them to explain how the Clintons and every single Republican missed this during the election.
You sure have a lot of faith in politicians. You have a computer printout (I could make one too). And a Governor that said he would get a birth certificate and prove it, only he couldn't do that.
That is the birther standard of logic.
What evidence do you have that he wasn't born in Hawaii?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
Obamas grandmother said she witnessed his birth in Kenya. Obama is an African brit. Not an American. You really don't matter on this issue. You will support Obama no matter what just because he isn't a christian. I talk to people on the street and tell them about Obama not having a birth certificate. They eat it up. It is going to be a problem for you guys come 2012.
What were you hatched or something. birther lol
the basic fallacy is that they are making a claim that they can't prove. If Stone truly believes Obama was born outside the U.S. then he should be easily able to provide some evidence to back up his claim. so we have proof that he was born in the U.S.: and the proof that he wasn't born in the U.S: Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
No, Stone, she didn't. Understandable mistake from someone who thinks World Nut Daily is a legitimate news source.
But they know he wasn't, they just know it! That's better than proof any day of the week.
No she didn't, Hal McCrae said she told him that, she denies it. See: http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2009/07/23/liddy That's it? You are changing the subject, where is your evidence that he was born outside the U.S.?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
I'm still waiting for the name of the doctor that delivered the sack of shit.
Salon is not credible. It is run by red diaper doper babies.
What was the name of the doctor who delivered you?
I'm still waiting for a shred of evidence that he was born outside the U.S. Are you always in the habit of making claims you can't prove and then blasting others for not disproving your claims? As a Conservative aren't you aware that ours is a system based on the ideal that the onus is on the accuser to prove their claim? Haven't you ever heard of the term "innocent until proven guilty"?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
So that's it, your entire argument rests on Ron McCrae's claim that even Obama's grandmother denies? Seriously?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
You guys don't even get it. You can argue with me all you want. People out here rightly believe what I am saying. It is going to cost you dearly in the next election.
Excerpts: Veteran reporter Mike Evans said he spoke to Governor Abercrombie’s office who told him that Abercrombie had used his power as Governor to search records from all the hospitals where babies were being delivered at the time of Obama’s birth and that, “There is no Barack Obama birth certificate in Hawaii – absolutely no proof at all that he was born in Hawaii,” said Evans, pointing out that Abercrombie purposefully conducted the investigation to try and quash claims that Obama was not born in the United States. “Now he admits publicly that there is no birth certificate,” said Evans of Abercrombie. Evans said that he asked Abercrombie what his first memory was of Barack Obama as a child and that Abercrombie told him he recalled seeing Obama playing in the T-Ball league when he was 5 or 6 years old. “What about before that,” asked Evans, to which Abercrombie responded, ” I don’t really remember much before that,” a retort described by Evans as “very odd”. Evans said that Abercrombie was shocked when he failed to find the birth certificate, having steadfastly believed that Obama was born and raised in Hawaii.
Seriously he has no birth certificate. none nada You anti constitutionalists really crack me up. Why do you hate the constitution?
MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was born in Kenya? OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born. MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa? OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America. MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya. OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa. MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born. OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.
What evidence do you have that he wasn't born in Hawaii? It sounds like you are hoping the American people buy into a claim without merit.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
What evidence do you have he wasn't born in Hawaii?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
So someone changed their story. Doesn't surprise me. Guess what. I've told about 6 neighbors about Obamas lack of birth certificate. They didn't vote in the last election. They are voting this time. It wont be for Obama. Obama was raised overseas. He is only not a citizen. He is also not a cultural American. He can't relate to us REAL Americans.
Stone and Mammy Yokum know better. In fact, they know better than the entire Republican and Democrat parties, as well as the judiciary of the entire US.
It is already posted above. Your broken record routine is getting boring. Don't you have some abortions to perform or something?
No surprise that you have very stupid neighbors.
Obama was raised overseas. He is only not a citizen. He is also not a cultural American. He can't relate to us REAL Americans. What evidence do you have that he wasn't born in the U.S.? Have you told your neighbors that you have no evidence that he was born outside of the U.S.?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
I asked you what evidence you have and all you can provide is a claim that Obama's own grandmother denies. That's it? Seriously? Why do you keep trying to change the subject? If you believe Obama wasn't born in the U.S. then surely you used some sort of evidence to reach this conclusion, didn't you?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
Have you told your neighbors that you have no evidence that he was born outside of the U.S.? They are not voting for Obama. They are pissed. The guy across the street even used to like Obama.
Where did that ugly assed black bitch named michelle say he was born. Oh yes her tongue slipped out and let out the truth...Kenya.
Get back to me when you have some actual evidence Obama wasn't born in the U.S., ok?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
Get back to me when you have some proof Obama is an American.
I don't think Obama is counting on winning Ohio in 2012 Stone. However, if you guys can do something really stupid like running Palin, that prediction might turn out to be wrong.
Palin would mop the floor with Obama. But then again anyone would.
Sorry, Stone, but the American system is that the accuser has to provide the proof. Why do you hate America so much?
If he isn't planning on winning Ohio. Is he planning on winning the election, and how. Also Ohio isn't the only state with us proofers in it.
Care to make a little wager?
That is how it is supposed to work. If it works that way then why did I spend 36 hours in jail last month for driving without a license. They automatically suspended it because they said I didn't have insurance april 2010. I had to go to cinci and prove I had insurance on that day to get my license back. Then the piece of shit prosecutor (I will out that pile of shit later) still has the balls to drop the charges only if I agree to pay their extortion court fees. You are guilty until proven innocent in this country. Unless you are a nigger named Barack Obama. Yeah I said nigger again. So the fuck what. When I was in jail for those two days all the blacks were calling themselves niggers.
I would have to out my identity to collect or to pay you. I'm not ready to do that yet. I have thought about it though.
Go fuck yourself. My son is the same racial background as Obama, you calling him that hateful and immature epithet? Stick it up your ass. I spent 4 days in jail because a crankster gangster used my license from a stolen wallet in a traffic stop in Washington State. I lost the towing fee and had to pay my lawyer fees for getting proof to Clark County Washington I was working that day Dale Allan Beaty was stopped. I also was in jail a day five years before that in Eugene for the same ID mis- use and had to clean violations he put on my license off. I also fought a young man who did not want to get off the phone in the tier because he was talking to a female he was trying to impress. I needed the phone for legal reasons and it was the only way I got him off it. You ain't the only person who has had shit happen to and I don't call people names because of the race of that particular kid, who was indeed Black. Because I'm mature enough to care about humanity; something you chose to like only a part of.
Mike you may have a point on everythig except this one. Saying nigger is just an insult. It doesn't mean I am a racist. I believe in one race, the human race. Maybe I shouldn't say that but I did. Blacks say it all the time. And that isn't the only raw deal I ever got from the pigs.
What part of he was born in Hawaii confuses you, you stupid racist moron?
The nigger wasn't born in Hawaii. There I said it again. It is just a word, grow up.
It is a term that says the user is a racist. No other way around it. If you called a friend or relative that insult to their face and I was there, we would immediately scrap. Make no mistake about it. I am highly offended.
Your mama fucked an asshole into the world.
and this where I bow out of the thread, good day gentlemen.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
Then all blacks are racists. They all say it. Or at least most of them do. I hear it all the time. If they can say it I can.
Have a good evening. It was a pleasure debating with you. We disagree but that is ok. I think you have a good heart.
You have no heart, and worship hatred and ignorance.
It sure would be easy to send you to jail. It seems like you have a temper Mike. That is not good for some little pipsqueak like you. I mean you attacked someone because they were on the phone before you and you were to impatient to use it. I've never lost a fight. Except one time in boxing.
Mike I am full of love and happiness. You support the mass murdering black man. A baby Killer Mike. And you get offended at a word. But you are ok with baby murder by your chocolate messiah. That is what I call fucked in the head.
He was supposed to bee on ten minutes, I waited 35. I would of won the fight had the guard not interferred. And I've won against larger opponents. It's kinda what happens when you spend much of your life working off steam learning and practicing martial arts. You also learn that knowing fighting skills doesn't make one a bad ass. It is a skill that tends to prevent physical conflict, not generate it. I would say that face to face, you are very welcome to think your size will win you a fight. It always seems to be that way with bigger guys anyway.
Mike you are right. I shouldn't use that word. To me it isn't a racist word. It is just an insult like calling someone a dick, asshole, faggot, cocksucker, bitch ugly, stupid etc. I honestly have nothing against someone simply because of their race. It is Obamas character and evil deeds that I have a problem with.
We'll see how full of love and happiness if one of your kids marries outside of the Caucasian race or turns out to be gay or bi-sexual. Dickhead.
Sorry if I offended you Mike.
By ANDY BARR Updated: 2/14/11 The opening of 2011 state legislative sessions has been accompanied by a spate of birther-related bills, the clearest indication yet that the controversy surrounding President Barack Obama’s place of birth will continue to simmer throughout his reelection campaign. Lawmakers in at least 10 states have introduced bills requiring presidential candidates to provide some form of proof that they are natural-born citizens, a ballot qualification rule designed to address widespread rumors on the right that Obama was not born in the United States. The notion that Obama does not meet constitutional qualifications to be president has dogged him since the early stages of the 2008 race, despite his campaign’s posting online his certificate of live birth in the state of Hawaii. The birther controversy resurfaced in recent weeks when newly elected Hawaii Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie, a friend of Obama’s parents, promised to investigate the issue and finally put to rest rumors that he was born in Kenya or Indonesia. Abercrombie later backtracked, citing the state’s privacy laws. So far, the conservative conspiracy theorists who have pushed national media campaigns and numerous legal challenges questioning the president’s eligibility have met little success. At the state level, however, the issue continues to fester. This year’s bills, if passed, would create a requirement for presidential campaigns to prove candidates’ place of birth, a proviso that sponsors say would finally clear up the matter. Election law attorneys say that if the bills are passed, states may be able to kick presidential candidates off the ballot for not complying — though a legal challenge would be very likely. “The Constitution gives state legislatures plenary power to set the rules for choosing presidential electors. A state legislature, in theory, as Bush v. Gore acknowledges, could even take away the popular vote for the president and decide on the choice itself,” said Rick Hasen, a law professor and author of the respected Election Law blog. Cleta Mitchell, a conservative election lawyer, made similar comments, arguing that “states have had latitude historically to require filing fees, signatures on petitions and other ministerial procedures — and providing a birth certificate verifying a person’s constitutional qualifications of age and citizenship seems perfectly reasonable.” The bills vary in terms of how election officials would sign off on the ballot eligibility of presidential candidates, a process that would be triggered by a presidential campaign’s application to get on the primary ballot. Some measures, such as one in Connecticut, would require the secretary of state to view the original birth certificate, while others would require an affidavit providing documentation of a candidate’s name and place of birth. “We don’t think the president was vetted, and it’s just that simple,” Texas GOP state Rep. Leo Berman said, adding that he doesn’t know whether Obama is “a citizen or not” but that he believes the question has not been fully examined. “I read different things that say he was born in Hawaii, and then I read the governor can’t find anything that says he was born in Hawaii,” Berman added. “Why the president won’t show a birth certificate is beyond me.” Berman said that he’s received “the foulest e-mails I have ever seen in my life” since introducing the bill, but contended he has a significant amount of support — if not yet a large number of co-sponsors — within the Texas Legislature. “My colleagues love it,” he said, adding that his bill will “pass overwhelmingly in the House.” But Berman predicted that Democrats in the state Senate would block the bill from getting the two-thirds majority it needs to pass. In Oklahoma, Ralph Shortey is one of three Republican state senators who have introduced bills seeking proof of birth from presidential candidates, and, like Berman, said he doesn’t know if the president was born in the country. “I don’t know one way or the other because I’ve not seen evidence one way or the other,” Shortey said, contending that the bill isn’t necessarily about Obama. “To be honest, I don’t care [if the president is a citizen]. He’s our president, and we elected him, whether he’s qualified or not.” The Oklahoman said his bill is not so much about the birther argument as it is about the questions that prompted the theory. “In Oklahoma, we can guarantee at every elected level that the candidate is qualified, except for president,” he said. “We need to ensure that the people on [the] ballot are legitimate candidates. ... If 10 states are taking on this issue, it seems to me that it’s a serious enough issue to have called attention to itself.” Missouri GOP state Rep. Lyle Rowland framed his own bill as a check against illegal immigration. “We have problems with illegal immigrants. And if something were to happen where one of them became popular with the people, we need documents proving if they are a citizen,” said Rowland, who believes Obama is a “natural citizen of the United States.” Hawaii Democrats are working on birther-influenced legislation of their own, designed, at least, to produce some revenue for the state’s trouble with the birthers. A new bill would allow the state’s Department of Health to provide copies of some of the president’s birth records — which the state had stopped doing during the height of birther activity — in return for a $100 fee. Because many states where the bills have been proposed are only beginning their sessions, the prospects for passage are unclear. Arizona’s seems the most likely to pick up momentum, as a similar bill was approved last year by its House before failing in the Senate. Both chambers were, and remain, under GOP control. The bill already has enough co-sponsors to pass the House again, and the support of the Republican majority leader in the Senate makes it quite likely that the measure will at least be brought to the floor. Arizona GOP Gov. Jan Brewer did not take a position on the bill last year and hasn’t done so this year either. Republican state Rep. Judy Burges, who sponsored the bill both times, did not respond to requests for comment. The bills in each state have been attacked by Democrats, who dismiss the birther movement as a collection of Obama-obsessed wing nuts. Bill sponsors interviewed by POLITICO said they had not communicated with each other or any national group, though some said they were influenced by news reports on bills in other states. “I read about it and thought, ‘Why shouldn’t we do this? This sounds like a good idea,’” said Connecticut GOP state Sen. Michael McLachlan. McLachlan conceded that his bill doesn’t stand much chance of passing the state’s Democratic-controlled Legislature, but said he hasn’t been deterred by opposition. “The issue just doesn’t want to go away,” he said. “Some people are insistent that President Obama isn’t qualified to run because he wasn’t born in the United States. Why don’t we just put the whole issue to rest?”
Say what? What kind of bird doesn't fly...jailbird?
And if that mullato in the WH had been around when your mama was carrying you, he would have helped her get rid of you, why should she be "punished" for being knocked up with you? This thread seems to have been highjacked by Ferret Mike and turned into some sort of self-righteous indignation debate. Apparently I did not receive the memo. You are so fking full of yourself Mike, your posts are documente proof of how supieror you think you are. Your assinine rants aren't about stone using a derogatory term towards that long-legged mack daddy, this was just another shot for you to show your ass, to show how morally superior, smugly virtuous you think you are, that's the way narcissists behave. It is about feeling superior to someone else. You get on here and pretend to be filled with outrage. You lean on your keyboard and yell and make sure everyone around knows that the website owner, or another member, is not behaving correctly, or at least how YOU define correct posting. The nerve of Stone! What a loser..eh Mike? sarc/ Everytime you get on here and rant about someone else using a word to discribe 'ONE PERSON' you are attempting to position yourself as better than them. I could be wrong, but I think you have low self esteem, you're unhappy in your life, people like you who are frustrated with where they are in life are most susceptible to self-righteous indignation. By finding someone here at LF you believe to be less than or worse than yourself and condemning them, you manage to feel some sort of superiority. (BARF ALERT) Being intolerant of the mistakes, or what you believe to be mistakes of other people, and pointing them out the way you do, will not make you popular. And it can totally destroy any credibility you had. Instead of berating Stone for the 'word' he posted, look at who his target was, and as for the word itself, tho is offends some, this is still a FREE SPEECH nation, Stone has every right to call Obama anything he wants, Stone did not attack an intire race of people, only your messiah, and if that offended you, tough, life sucks, find another thread to your liking. JMHO~ Here's a PS for you white man! You have not been hired, or elected, baby sitter, nanny or speech police for the black race. They do not need you, have never needed, nor want the likes of you to to defend them, they do just fine without you, you'd do well to take care of yourself and the baggage you carry.
I have no idea what your point is other than to brown nose. I always challenge anyone using that offensive term in real time, right up to their face, and I don't shy away from doing so online either. As far as your defense of Stone goes, he is welcome to delete my account. I don't post on racist sites, and any site where the owner uses that offensive verbiage is a racist site. And as far as an self righteous clap trap from you, you have no standing to be taken serious after that thread trying to do character assassination on me by mentioning sex offenders with names like mine. You have consistently been focused on being nasty since I first met you, and have consistently fallen short on your efforts due to your lack of education, lack of high ethical standards, personal problems with family drug use, desire to use other people's work you find online you try to pass as your own, and just general all around insanity. Free speech works because people are accountable for their words. I call bullshit on stone because he tolerates racism from other posters, and engages in promoting hate speech himself. So, go learn about free speech issues before you blather brown nosed garbage showing you don't know the first thing about the First Amendment. And get a spell checker so your posts become legible.
That was the first thing I saw when I signed on. Thank you for your apology. I come here because I hope things are evolving away from things that prevent open and honest dialog on stories in the news and issues because all they do is promote hatred toward others. I never ask anyone to not believe what they want to believe in, but I am not going to waste time on a site where hatred is the order of the day. Just an idea for something to think about, as if you want your site to grow, people will avoid a racist hate filled site, and people will leave when they tire of the sidebar issues drowning out more important stories or issues. I reciprocate by offering words of apology for any personal insults I made, as I said more than once, I have a temper every bit as epic as yours'. I am older and more experienced at activism, so I know better, thus make amends when I cross my own line. Talk at you later. And don't drive if your license is still suspended. Jail sucks.
You're pressuring Stone into bowing to the RACE CARD, shakedown artist Jesse Jackson, and that fat assed Al Sharpton have nothing on you. You're telling Stone what speech will be permitted on HIS OWN website, and threatening him with leaving if he doesn't, not to mention highjacking other members thread for your own AGENDA! I don't SUCK UP to anyone you low-life liberal POS, I got your number you two- faced forked tongue euro weenie, and you hate me for it. Stone, this is either your site, or a site that can be ruled by democratic liberal dictators, ordering you to watch what you say. Mike is a sniveling liberal who is demanding you have respect for someone who is destroying this nation, he grovels at the feet of this filthy babykiller, and I don't give a flying rats ass if anything Obama is called offends him, because there is no love lost. He is not here to debate issues, he's here to force his race-card carrying leftist political beliefs on you, a power struggle to control you, and this site. He scores points everytime you apologize to him, stop it, you don't owe any damn democrat an apology, let that pisher go somewhere and start his own love- in site for Obama. LibertysFlame, is it Conservative, or Liberal? Who owns this site, you or him, a tree hugging leftard, euro-weenie environmentalist who posts from some rented PC in a cafe?
Mike you get upset at a word. But you support a man who supports the murder of about 2000 black babies every day. You don't get worked up about that but about a word. Something is wrong with that Mike.
LibertysFlame, is it Conservative, or Liberal? Who owns this site, you or him, a tree hugging leftard, euro-weenie environmentalist who posts from some rented PC in a cafe? I was thinking of you too when I said sorry. It is a conservative run site where people can post articles from a lot of perspectives. Not all but a lot.
Driving is a right. I do have a license though. Got one a couple of years ago under duress.
There seems to be some information missing from the notary's stamp; namely the notary's ID number and expiration date.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
Driving is a privilege, numbnuts.
Driving is a right. Do the research. Before the usurpers gained power there were numerous court decisions detailing this. It is a privelage for say a bus or a taxi. But it is a citizens right. You love the government. You think we have a good wonderful just government that always follows the constitution and the laws. Next time use google before you open your obama hole.
How was prison food?
I didn't eat a bite.
If it was local it was mystery meat on white bread.
How was the bathroom?
I hope you didn't sleep on your stomach side.
Nope. Riding a bike isn't even a right. The only transportation that is protected is that done by your own two feet. Interstate movement can be controlled by the Feds and intrastate by local authority.
I had a 30 page brief that I filed that driving was a right. It was a copy from a Pennsylvania case. The only time I ever fought it that way they dismissed the charges. Driving is a right.
I spent two nights there Fred. I didn't sleep much as they were torturing me.
Nope. And I highky doubt that it was that argument that prevailed in the dismissal. Dozens, probably hundreds, of cases a year so asserting get dismissed because it's settled law. Free movement is a right. The use of a conveyance is not. Wagons, wagon wheels, surreys, all taxed backk in the day.
When I was a kid I felt I owned the sidewalk with my wagon.
One interesting thing that didn't hit me until the case was over. They asked me if I objected to a federal observer in that case. I was unprepared for that question and said no. I wonder why they would do that?
If you honestly study the issue. You will concur that driving is a right.
I don't think it's practical to think about it as a rights issue. It has to be regulated for the common good.
It is a right that I do believe you could lose. Say you drive drunk or something. Or drive recklessly. But the premise always was (before the usurpers) that it was a right.
Stone, I have shown what you posted to several family members, all black, more christain than I am (thanks to the other g-mother), they are NOT OFFENDED, because they understood what you were saying, they were smart enough to know you are not a racist, and your anger is aimed at obama, not them. They are concervatives too, and they despise that socialist mongrel in WH, none of them voted for him and want what we all want, you owe no one an apology, not them, not me, and most certainly not some anonymous white man who does not speak for them. But it is up to you whether you will be pressured into silence.
Enabler.
Morning Fred. 8D "It is a term that says the user is a racist. No other way around it. If you called a friend or relative that insult to their face and I was there, we would immediately scrap. Make no mistake about it. I am highly offended." 8D
And how do you have "my number?" I have the thread you started trying to associate me with two men many years younger than me with names close to mine trying to form an association with me to these sexual predators. You accused Robin of feeding information to me, which tells me you were writing her trying character assassination of me with her. You are an insane piece of shit who doesn't have two live brain cells to rub together for warmth, never mind to form thought. You act and sound like you have been into your relatives meth bag, and I know local bag ladies with more class than you have with your ignorant social and mental cripple act. You talked about winning at chess, game, set, and match confusing it with tennis when you thought you had me banned once. And you talk about "scoring points which further shows you to think this is some kind of sick snuff the other poster competition. Go screw yourself, you old bag. Everyone around you at your home area has your number judging by the threads I've read on that local board of yours'.
And here you are, still at it trying to do character assassination. I don't give a shit about people you are spoon feeding a biased account about an imaginary run you your dubious posting career, bitch. Grow up and get a life.
Unfortunately war is correct. Driving is considered a privilege, not a right in legal circles. I even got a letter last October as I didn't have liability insurance on my Ford Windstar as I had it on blocks because I was replacing the shocks and struts before doing a brake job on the front. They really go out of the way these days to make sure people are legal in every sense of the word when they drive, even if it is pushy and nosy to a fault.
As a bicycling advocate agree once again from knowledge of the issue. One can get a ticket for talking on your cell phone, or go to jail for drunk driving on a bicycle. If you ride on some highways where bikes are banned you are going to get a huge ticket. This privilege aspect of conveyance is very firmly ensconced into transportation law. I have never seen anyone get anywhere trying to argue in court otherwise. Good luck trying, but unfortunately, you will get nowhere with that angle of attack on the issue.
That is one way one can get out of the local jail if in on a minor charge after four days. If one does not eat for four days, they are required to force feed at the hospital. That is expensive and they won't do it. I don't know what the policy is in your local adult confinement facility, but I imagine it's much the same.
I don't support abortion, Stone. And yet I get the issue thrown at me all the time because of where I am generally on the political spectrum. That is getting a tad old. Let's stick to the issue of offensive use of racist words. You have a whole language called Americanized English to express any sentiment you wish without stooping to that linguistic and divisive low. Don't change the subject; leave other issues for other threads on it, and don't pick on me about abortion. The genocide of black babies is precisely a key reason I loathe the practice, and I don't like being told my omission at mentioning it every damn time I debate someone on another issue means I'm for it. It means the thread was not about it. That's why I didn't mention it, and I get it thrown at me because of the views of others on it who are liberal. That's fucked up.
What are you shooting up, you stupid bitch? I don't want to control this or any other site you delusional shit bird. The power struggle is a mirage. You are conflicted and creating a struggle in your own brain, an organ all too thinly populated with brain cells. Dumb shit. First of all, I am not a Democrat. I belong to the Pacific Green Party. Second of all, I just post here, like you. If you have trouble dealing with that, go get counseling for this thing you have going inside your head. I am also a native born American, own my own laptops and desktop. I also own Compaq ProLiant servers and other machines from my days of building machines from donated computers at Free Geek in Portland donating my time to help others who donate time themselves of submit a grant for machines. Dumb shit.
Interesting how this thread got hijacked from the only real and uncontested documentation concerning Soetoro's birth to one about racism. Aren't the ramifications of the thread enough to rivet attention without dragging racism into it by the hair to deflect attention? /s
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Aren't the ramifications of the thread enough to rivet attention without dragging racism into it by the hair to deflect attention? /s That is exactly what Mike's intentions were, and are, to divert the focus from the originl topic. He ignored the threads topic, documents..ect, scanned through the posts and found his target, Stone, and turned this into his own personal crusade.
Paul Nazzarino. The above is the only guy I ever lost to growing up. He was half my size. I'll take a big guy over a little guy any day.
Dumb shit, I signed on and saw Stone's comment with the offensive word and went from there. According to you, I studied the current threads, figured out the best way to divert from a topic to end the forum and life as we know it on this planet and went from there. I mean, don't you even ET how insane you sound? You are only focused on getting me banned, and I don't care if I am banned or not. That is totally Stone's call. I just post as honestly and as objectively as possible and let th chips fall as they may. All I see is an insane woman fixated on getting me banned. Get a life.
This wedge issue concerning President Barack Obama, born in Hawaii is an ongoing thing and when racism was interjected overtly in the mix became a good focus of why this issue even is there. This is a metaphor meant to tab racist sentiments in a way that gives it a sense of plausible denial as to what energies are being tapped to try to propel this to plausibility. Ultimately this story has no legs and will go nowhere. But the point of this advocacy is to tap latent racist sentiment to use it in a manner to try to use racist inertia, and racist feelings to get at Obama.
Bottom linie is that it is moronic to believe that he was born anywhere OTHER than Hawaii.
Indeed. This is a tempest in a teapot that will get these people no where. On top of the fact he was born i Hawaii, he is a well educated Christian former professor who is as American culturally and background-wise as you can find. I mean, Schwarzenegger seems far less American with his accent and background as a native born Austrian, a dad who was a minor official in Nazi occupied Austria, and instead of getting a similar disparagement, there was talk early in his first term as California Governor of changing the U.S. Constitution to allow him to run for POTUS. I bet some of those conservatives who advocated that are now deeply ensconced into the birfer movement. Crazier and crazier.
He's black. That's all there is to it.
Heh, yep; that sums it up. Though really, I have very Irish hazel blue eyes, baby fine light brown hair and much darker skin than I've ever seen President Obama with because I'm outside in the sun so much. Part of the blessing of being a Quarter Puerto Rican is my height and stockiness, and oily skin that has never, ever been sunburned. When I lived in North Carolina, I was as dark or darker than my wife who is mostly African American, go figure.
She's simply being Boofer's dummy here. And for Mammy to accuse anyone of thread jacking is like Al Capone calling John Gotti immoral.
"What your ignorant posters here do not know is, I am a student of Civil Law, I have a slew of attorneys working for me and the children. Since my daughter has left this filthy appartement complex '[deleted]', she has been living a clean life at home (ranch) with her father and mother. Their sick, twisted, since of humore will not be so funny when their ISP addies, and real identities are tracked down, and my attorneys, and the Juvenile Judge, summons them before her court to answer for their cruel attacks and lies they have spead upon your site, Yahoo. Years of studing Law has taught me that preparation with facts is what this Judge will want, and she will receive. There are laws on the books to protect the innocent, and we plan to procecute these people who ignrantly believe they are anonymous to the fullest extent of the law, and then we will take up Civil Action after the Judge informs them that they are all guilty of Slanders and Slurs, and I will ask for the largest amount of restituion the court will allow." She's angry too at my pointing out she plagiarized a screed to you from the Muppet's Scrooge special. You probably missed that as she posted it after you kill filed the dumb shit. She hates it when her attempts at sounding like a player in the creative writing field get exposed as cut and paste. The above quote is by her from a local Yahoo forum where she goes off on a roll trying to impress all there with her ability as a legal researcher and writer. Need I say more? Her lack of writing ability - especially when she's hysterical - is legend.
Is there any sense of the word "coherent" that has been left unviolated in the above? Their sick, twisted, since of humore... WTF is a "since of humore"? There are laws on the books to protect the innocent, and we plan to procecute [sic] these people who ignrantly [sic] believe they are anonymous to the fullest extent of the law... How does one go about being "anonymous to the fullest extent of the law"?
You said it. You should see how this completely destroyed her effort at generating fear and trepidation in those who's bow she was firing a shot over. If anything, reading the thread it looks like they wee only in danger of dying from laughter at her words. They tore her up through the whole run of that series of exchanges.
They should take her internet away.
What did you think of Pens/Islanders debacle? I agree with Mario. You leave the bench to protect a player it's 10 games. But you can elbow, pummel and taunt and only get nine., Such a deal!!!
Oh, I've been meaning to look that up and see what all the fuss was about. It seems odd to me that brawls break out in the middle of a sporting event though. Why was that ever tolerated. Throw the bums out. I do remember the bench-clearing brawls of the seventies fondly, though. lol
This went beyond fighting.
This is a metaphor meant to tab racist sentiments in a way that gives it a sense of plausible denial as to what energies are being tapped to try to propel this to plausibility. Ultimately this story has no legs and will go nowhere. But the point of this advocacy is to tap latent racist sentiment to use it in a manner to try to use racist inertia, and racist feelings to get at Obama. You are full of shit. No racism. Obama was called a NIGGER because he is piece of shit destroyer of the nation. That makes him a nigger. Take Herman Cain. He would never be called one because he is not evil like Obama. Nothing racist about it. I'm not going to debate it. You wanna call me a racist then just say it to me so that I can delete you permanently. That is to anyone and everyone.
I suspect, but can't swear by it, that since you have shown courage and will not be intimidated, that maybe the next move will for one of these liberal freaks to register under yet another goofy ppseudonym and start posting really nasty, honest to goodness 'racist' threads, just to make their point this site is racist because we refuse to bow to their socialist bastard, but I trust you'll know them when you see them! jmho
You apparently haven't read anything posted by no gnu taxes or Happy Quanzaa, both Stone favorites.
In August of 2008, the former Democrat Party of Hawaii’s chairman, Brian Schatz, who now serves as Hawaii’s lieutenant governor, then refused to certify Obama’s constitutional eligibility for submission to the Hawaiian Elections Office for inclusion on the 2008 Hawaiian presidential ballot because he was either not able to locate originally documented proof that Obama is constitutionally eligible to serve as president, or he was provided with an original record of Obama’s birth which confirmatively proves he is not eligible to be president. If Obama’s records actually existed within the state of Hawaii, Schatz, as the head of the Democrat party’s authority in Hawaii and personal supporter of Obama, would have requested access to them. The "Identity Protection Law", HRS 338-18, often cited by Hawaiian officials as justification for denying access to Obama's records would not apply in a request from Schatz because the law states that a request for someone's vital records must be for tangible reasons. It was Schatz' duty to vet Obama's elibility for the office of the presidency. This is a "tangible reason". Therefore, the Hawaiian Department of Health would have released Obama's birth records to Schatz if they existed. The fact that Schatz refused to certify Obama's eligibility proves the records do not exist. . Using the information in any original records, Schatz would have assessed Obama’s constitutional eligibility and, therefore, if upon confirming that Obama was a Natural-born citizen, would have authorized an Official Certification of Nomination (OCON) which would have included the explicit language required by HRS 11-113(c)(1)(B) thereby enabling the Hawaiian Chief Elections Officer, Kevin Cronin, to approve Obama’s placement on the Hawaiian ballot. However, Schatz did not do this. Then, scandalously, one day after Schatz filed the DPH’s non-certification, the Democrat National Committee (DNC), chaired by Nancy Pelosi, issued a fraudulent Certification stating that Obama was constitutionally eligible to serve as president, even though the DNC had no original documented evidence to support such a claim. On January 20th, 2010, Adams signed a sworn affidavit which reasserts testimony he gave in an interview with WLRM radio’s James Edwards, in early June of 2010, when he first publicly said that the state of Hawaii does not possess an original “long-form”, 1961 Certificate of Live Birth on file for Barack Obama, and therefore, Obama could not possibly have been born in the state of Hawaii. In the interview, Adams said, “There is no birth certificate – it’s like an open secret. There just isn’t one. Everyone in the government in Hawaii knows this.” Adams managed the Absentee Ballot Office of the Honolulu County and City Elections Office. He served as the Senior Elections Supervising Clerk during the 2008 election and had access to vital records in his primary duty of verifying voters’ identities. Overseeing approximately 45 workers, it was his job to confirm the personal information of voters in collaboration with absentee balloting. While serving in the Honolulu office of elections, Adams also checked with both major medical facilities in the city, Kapi’olani Medical Center and Queens Medical Center and was told by administrators of both hospitals that they possessed no medically verified record of Obama’s birth in their facilities, including any birth certificate signed by a doctor or hospital administrator. Even to this date, no hospital in Hawaii, nor any agency within the government of the State of Hawaii has ever verified or confirmed possession of any original records documenting Obama’s 1961 birth there. EXCERPTS: "...(Nancy) Pelosi committed fraud by certifying 0bama’s eligibility" Democrat National Committee (DNC), chaired by Nancy Pelosi, issued a fraudulent Certification (below) stating that Obama was constitutionally eligible to serve as president, even though the DNC had no original documented evidence to support such a claim. The Hawaiian Democratic Party refused to sign off on a certification that Barak Hussein 0bama II was eligible to be president. Instead, Nancy Pelosi herself signed that Hawaiian certification. The possible reason: the attorney who approved all legal paperwork that required signatures by the HDP just happened to be the same attorney who handled 0bama’s mother's divorce from her Indonesian husband. That attorney had seen 0bama’s original long form birth certificate. This also means Pelosi committed fraud by certifying 0bama’s eligibility. The proper legal text used on the DNC Party "Official Certification of Nomination" document (below) reads as follows; "THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution." The document is signed by Chair of the DNC Convention and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, DNC Secretary Alice Travis Germond and Colorado Notary of Public Shalifa A. Williamson. It is dated August 28, 2008. However, this document was never delivered to a single state DNC Office for state certification, and it was therefore, never presented to any state Election Commission as certification of Obama and Biden. Instead, a very similar (bogus)document (below) was delivered to fifty state DNC offices, that those offices certified to each of fifty state Election Commissions, who then date-stamped the document and stuck it in a file cabinet, and proceeded to place these "certified" candidates on the ballot. This is the legal certification text on the DNC certified nomination document used for the DNC ticket: "THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively." The reference to Obama’s constitutional eligibility is missing. It had been removed from the document sent to the states. The bogus version is in the Election Commission files of all fifty state Election Commission offices, and state DNC headquarters, complete with date stamps, matching signatures, even the same Notary of Public authentication. The proper legal text used on the DNC Party "Official Certification of Nomination" The similar document was delivered to fifty state DNC offices
You SERIOUSLY need to get some oxygen to your brain. Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" That's (was) her primary function: zero morals procurerenabler.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Oh will you just shut the fuck up you stupid old bag
If she did that who would keep reposting all of this old WND crap?
Maybe we could make a deal with Goldi and trade her for Magician. He'll fulfill the WND quota and we can get him talking about how black people ruin everything.
It is racist to call him that epithet. If you ever want me to say something, just make a stupid threat to ban me. You'll get a truthful opinion from me regardless of how you posture to bully. What's more, if you called someone that term and I was around, I'd get right in your mug about it. One thing you can always depend on regarding me, I have zero fear to speak my mind. More than likely, this post of yours' emanates from Murron's attempt to manipulate you because she hates me calling her on her shit. All I really have to do is note which thread you make this boneheaded chip on your shoulder play to see that.
She left Goldi because Goldi kept calling blacks "niggers" and said she didn't like "their kind". I guess she's over that now, since here it's just fine.
You always suck up and manipulate. It is ridiculous to call the expressed opinions of people as 'intimidation.' It is beyond belief stupid to talk about runs to control a forum when the person you say is being 'conspired' against has the keys to the moderator screen and owns the site. You did this with Goldi until she got sick of you and ditched your ass, and because you want to control who is here or not, you fear monger and talk about fake conspiracies. I still like Stone because his problems with race emanate from his trouble controlling his anger. He gets manipulated when adrenalin overrides his gray matter, but is no racist ideologue. I understand this battle with a hot temper as I have one too, and before I controlled it, it cost me. I Also call bullshit on your goofy - and badly mis-spelled - warning about returning banner accounts. For one thing, if you would get off your vicious high horse and stop the name calling and attacks, people would have no trouble relating to you. I tried to be kind and to give you room to back off and fly right, but that just ain't your thing, ding a ling. You can manipulate and spin all you want, but no one is stupid enough to fall for it forever if they should by your ego stroking and words of divisiveness. Sooner or later anyone is going to get tired of baby sitting your panic attacks and hysterical ranting. That's more than my opinion, it's a fact anyone who knows forums, and you can easily see.
You have summarized the entire leftist attitude. Results don't matter to them; the only thing that they care about is feelings. The intentions matter, results do not. And therein lies the fatal trap of left-wing thinking: the road to HELL is paved with good intentions.
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" As usual, when your arguments fail, you resort to the personal attacks. So, when do you get your GED? And when are you gonna' move out of momma's basement?
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" If you think it's crap, then perhaps you can provide factual data which contradicts her position? Let's put it more bluntly: put up or SHUT up, you loud-mouthed sack of shit.
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" So, when do you get your GED? And when are you gonna' move out of momma's basement? Thank you for admitting your 'arguments' against me have failed.
I 'admit' nothing. Where YOU are concerned there are no arguments. Given your infantile remarks, I am asking perfectly logical questions. Your latest puerile attempt at wit was as follows: I'm STILL waiting for you to come up with a shred of solid, concrete evidence to disprove anything that Murron has said. Well? <<<<<<<<< crickets >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" I really don't care much for WND either, but you have to be careful wherever you get your information, I trust none of them till I check out their claims myself. I'm sure the brain, skippy, can point us to some media outlet with a flawless reputation for the factual data and refute what I have posted here?
It's already been refuted. Try looking somewhere else besides Farah's dumping ground for your info. He's got a financial interest in posting this crap.
Translation of skippy's response: I can't refute it! Thanks for playing!
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" I just thought I would let you know that you are a bag of hot-aire. 0bama is the president, no matter your silly ideas and you aren't doing anything about it but arguing/agreeing with obscure posters on the Internet. It PROVES your own worth to modify anything about your own country.
No, you didn't. But a requirement of being in the vast majority of fat, stupid and gullible people of the world, who believe in the leftist agenda, is the steadfast refusal to think. As to whatever passes for fleeting glimpses of intelligence within your empty skull, try to imagine how little I care, about what you "think." Your alleged thoughts aren't worth two warm squirts of piss.
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" Apparently you support Tim Adams' claims from some obscure website. Yet, you don't stick to the facts; President 0bama is your personal POTUS, even if you deny it; even if he was illegally assigned the job there is no way of removal him from office for two years in the future. As I said before, you are a bag of hot-aire. You are just a gabby, little chit- chat cretin found everywhere on the Internet without facts to support your own opin.
From the WP nearly a year ago. Honolulu city clerk debunks new 'birther' theory Over the past few weeks, a Kentucky resident and teacher named Timothy Adams has made the rounds online and on talk radio with an extraordinary claim -- he was the "senior elections clerk" for Honolulu in 2008, where it was an open secret that the city and state had no proof of Barack Obama's citizenship. As he told WorldNetDaily, the racing form for birtherism: I had direct access to the Social Security database, the national crime computer, state driver's license information, international passport information, basically just about anything you can imagine to get someone's identity. I could look up what bank your home mortgage was in. I was informed by my boss that we did not have a birth record [for Barack Obama]. I checked with Glen Takahashi, the administrator of the Honolulu City Clerk's office, and while he verified that Adams worked there, he explained – gently making it clear he did not want to "call anyone a liar" -- that Adams never actually had access to information about Barack Obama. "Our office does not have access to birth records," Takahashi said. "That's handled by the state of Hawaii Department of Health. Where he's getting that, I don't know. Put it this way: Barack Obama was not trying to register to vote in Hawaii. He is, as far as I know, not a registered voter here. So no one was looking that up." Takahashi explained that the "senior elections clerk" job that Adams held was a low-level data entry position dealing with voter registration and absentee ballots -- Adams was one of dozens of temporary employees who staffed the pre-election rush. And he contradicted Adams's claims that Obama's lack of a birth certificate was an "open secret" or that voters contacted the office to ask about it. "To be honest, I fielded no questions about that," Takahashi said. "Why would anyone ask us? We don't have those records." The internal contradictions of Adams's story haven't stopped him from expanding his media presence this week, most recently with a local TV interview in which he repeated his claims (some of them based on popular "birther" rumors from the Web) while, confusingly, stating that he didn't think Obama's eligibility was an issue. Why the crap website WND has any credibility is beyond me, but then there are still people who believe what they see on Fox News. BTW, did you know you can buy Corsi's brand new book about you-know-what directly from WND?
Of course. Adams was nothing more than a part-time voter registration clerk. He had no access to any other records other than admissible voter registration qualifications looking for bogus duplications. Case closed!
Never as long as WND can keep recycling this crap to sell books and bumper stickers.
Kafir is buckeroo and he is gone for the porn posts he made.
He posts a lot for a guy who isn't here.
He probably has 1000 ip numbers or more.
THAT is the fact. Which means every piece of legislation he signed is null and void. Everything else you posted is smoke and mirrors, in a failed attempt to *obscure* this fact. Nice attempt to derail the thread. Now, go back to the DUmmy forum; tell them you FAILED. LOL.
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" Oh BTW buckeroo... You're bozoed again.
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" I don't care you don't like some news source skippy, try to focus your attention on what the characters involved in this are saying! Throw me bone boy... He (Takahashi) "did not want to call anyone (meaning Adams) a liar"? WHY? Why won't Takahashi call Adams a liar? Adams swore, and signed an affidavit to what he said, under penalty of purjury if he LIED, has Takahashi done the same? Words mean something, especially if they can cause a person to be fined, or go jail for them. This article, and Takahashi is full of bull shit, he is the LIAR!.... ************************************ "His (Adams) title was senior elections clerk in 2008," said Glen Takahashi, elections administrator for the city and county of Honolulu. Takahashi also confirmed Adams' time frame at the office from spring until the month of August. However, when WND asked Takahashi if the elections office could check on birth records, he said, "We don't have access to that kind of records. There's no access to birth records." Adams responded, "They may say, 'We don't have access to that.' The regular workers don't, the ones processing ballots; but the people in administration do. I was the one overseeing the work of the people doing the balloting." Refute what I have posted with Facts Skip, I don't care for your shuck and jive spinning, it doesn't pass the smell test.
thanks for the update. Keep up the good work.
You're very welcome, but I'm just here for the food....&;-)
Some of Adams' critics have derided him online as being just "a temp" at the elections office. "The temporary status of my GS-15 level contract was not some temp agency worker," Adams explains. "The current manager of the office is a lady who has worked there for about a decade – eight of those years she was on the same contract I possessed – as they are renewed annually following performance reviews. Getting a permanent, civil-service position is something that requires lots of hard work and time in a city like Honolulu, where everyone is competing for these secure, well-paying jobs. Glen Takahashi won't say I'm a liar, but I have inadvertently caused him quite a bit of trouble." Adams stresses he was a manager at the elections office. "I had a secretary, private office, two assistants and about 50 temp workers under me." (above) Copy of original long-form birth certificate of Susan Nordyke, born in Honolulu the day after Obama's reported birthdate. President Obama has never produced any document like this. He (Adams) also notes he had access to numerous government databases, including police, Social Security, driver's license bureau and voter's registration, not to mention "unfettered Internet access , something else the workers didn't possess." During the summer of 2008, there were conflicting reports Obama had been born at the Queen's Medical Center in Honolulu, as well as the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women & Children, also located in the capital city. So Adams says his office checked with both facilities. "They told us, 'We don't have a birth certificate for him,'" he said. "They told my supervisor, either by phone or by e-mail, neither one has a document that a doctor signed off on saying they were present at this man's birth." "In my professional opinion, [Obama] definitely was not born in Hawaii. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that he was not born in Hawaii because there is no legal record of him being born there. If someone called and asked about it, I could not tell them that person was born in the state." To date, no Hawaiian hospital has provided documented confirmation that Obama was born at its facility.
I saw the Omen. I know how it works. Obama was born of a Jackyl. That is why he has no birth certificate but just a computer printout.
#2. To: A K A Stone (#1)
He is an illegal alien. His purpose is to break us.
#3. To: Murron (#2)
#4. To: All (#3)
#5. To: A K A Stone (#1)
He is an illegal alien. His purpose is to break us.
#6. To: Capitalist Eric (#5)
I mean, what happens now? How do we get this shitbag out of the White House?
#7. To: A K A Stone (#6)
Unless someone in the secret service decides to get rid of him.
#8. To: Skip Intro (#7)
#9. To: Murron (#0)
(Edited)
“My basic assumption is that he wasn’t born there,” Adams continued
#10. To: go65 (#9)
#11. To: A K A Stone (#10)
bamis mommy wanted to get her british son American citizenship. Happens all the time.
#12. To: go65 (#9)
On what evidence does he base this assumption?
#13. To: go65 (#11)
(Edited)
what evidence do you have to support this claim?
#14. To: A K A Stone (#12)
On the FACT that no one even Hawaiis Governor can come up with a birth certificate.
#15. To: go65 (#11)
what evidence do you have to support this claim?
#16. To: A K A Stone (#15)
Lack of birth certificate and common sense.
#17. To: Skip Intro (#13)
Surely you're joking.
#18. To: go65 (#16)
Now again, what evidence do you have that he wasn't born in the U.S.? It's a simple question, answer it.
#19. To: go65 (#16)
#20. To: go65 (#17)
suppose A K A was born on Mars. After all, he can't prove that he wasn't.
#21. To: A K A Stone (#19)
You have a computer printout (I could make one too). And a Governor that said he would get a birth certificate and prove it, only he couldn't do that.
#22. To: go65 (#21)
What evidence do you have that he wasn't born in Hawaii?
#23. To: Skip Intro (#20)
That is the birther standard of logic.
#24. To: Skip Intro, a k a stone (#18)
I'm still waiting for them to explain how the Clintons and every single Republican missed this during the election.
- birth certificate
- birth announcements
- citizenship requirement confirmed by 50 states, the electoral college, and the House of Representatives on January 8, 2009
- absolutely nothing
#25. To: A K A Stone (#22)
Obamas grandmother said she witnessed his birth in Kenya.
#26. To: go65 (#24)
and the proof that he wasn't born in the U.S: - absolutely nothing
#27. To: A K A Stone (#22)
Obamas grandmother said she witnessed his birth in Kenya. Obama is an African brit. Not an American.
Obama is an African brit. Not an American.
You really don't matter on this issue. You will support Obama no matter what just because he isn't a christian.
#28. To: go65 (#27)
#29. To: go65 (#27)
#30. To: A K A Stone (#28)
#31. To: A K A Stone (#28)
I'm still waiting for the name of the doctor that delivered the sack of shit.
#32. To: A K A Stone (#29)
(Edited)
Salon is not credible. It is run by red diaper doper babies.
#33. To: go65 (#31)
#34. To: All (#0)
Governor (Hawaii) Abercrombie Admits Failure To Discover Obama Birth Certificate
#35. To: go65 (#32)
#36. To: A K A Stone (#33)
#37. To: A K A Stone (#33)
(Edited)
You guys don't even get it. You can argue with me all you want. People out here rightly believe what I am saying. It is going to cost you dearly in the next election.
#38. To: A K A Stone (#35)
Seriously he has no birth certificate. none nada
#39. To: Skip Intro (#36)
#40. To: go65 (#37)
#41. To: go65 (#38)
#42. To: A K A Stone (#39)
Guess what. I've told about 6 neighbors about Obamas lack of birth certificate. They didn't vote in the last election. They are voting this time. It wont be for Obama.
#43. To: A K A Stone (#39)
Guess what. I've told about 6 neighbors about Obamas lack of birth certificate. They didn't vote in the last election. They are voting this time. It wont be for Obama.
#44. To: A K A Stone (#41)
It is already posted above. Your broken record routine is getting boring. Don't you have some abortions to perform or something?
#45. To: go65 (#43)
What evidence do you have that he wasn't born in the U.S.?
#46. To: go65 (#44)
#47. To: A K A Stone (#45)
They are not voting for Obama. They are pissed. The guy across the street even used to like Obama.
#48. To: go65 (#47)
#49. To: A K A Stone (#45)
#50. To: Skip Intro (#49)
#51. To: A K A Stone (#48)
Get back to me when you have some proof Obama is an American.
#52. To: Skip Intro (#49)
#53. To: A K A Stone (#50)
Palin would mop the floor with Obama.
#54. To: Skip Intro (#51)
Sorry, Stone, but the American system is that the accuser has to provide the proof.
#55. To: Skip Intro (#53)
Care to make a little wager?
#56. To: A K A Stone (#54)
#57. To: Ferret Mike (#56)
I also fought a young man who did not want to get off the phone in the tier because he was talking to a female he was trying to impress. I needed the phone for legal reasons and it was the only way I got him off it.
#58. To: A K A Stone (#48)
#59. To: Ferret Mike (#58)
#60. To: A K A Stone (#57)
#61. To: A K A Stone (#59)
(Edited)
#62. To: Ferret Mike (#60)
#63. To: Ferret Mike (#60)
It is a term that says the user is a racist.
#64. To: go65 (#62)
and this where I bow out of the thread, good day gentlemen.
#65. To: A K A Stone (#64)
#66. To: Ferret Mike (#60)
If you called a friend or relative that insult to their face and I was there, we would immediately scrap.
#67. To: Ferret Mike (#65)
#68. To: A K A Stone (#66)
#69. To: Ferret Mike (#65)
#70. To: A K A Stone (#67)
#71. To: Ferret Mike (#68)
#72. To: Ferret Mike, Fred Mertz (#68)
He was supposed to bee on ten minutes
#73. To: All (#0)
Tim Adams Signs Affidavit: ”No government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”
#74. To: A K A Stone (#72)
#75. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone (#61)
"Your mama fucked an asshole into the world".
#76. To: Murron (#75)
(Edited)
#77. To: A K A Stone (#71)
#78. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone (#76)
(Edited)
#79. To: Ferret Mike (#70)
#80. To: Murron (#78)
He scores points everytime you apologize to him, stop it, you don't owe any damn democrat an apology, let that pisher go somewhere and start his own love- in site for Obama.
#81. To: Ferret Mike (#77)
Talk at you later. And don't drive if your license is still suspended. Jail sucks.
#82. To: Murron (#0)
#83. To: A K A Stone (#81)
#84. To: Fred Mertz (#83)
#85. To: A K A Stone (#84)
#86. To: Fred Mertz (#85)
#87. To: Fred Mertz (#85)
#88. To: A K A Stone (#86)
#89. To: A K A Stone (#86)
#90. To: A K A Stone (#84)
Driving is a right.
#91. To: war (#90)
#92. To: Fred Mertz (#89)
#93. To: A K A Stone (#91)
I had a 30 page brief that I filed that driving was a right. It was a copy from a Pennsylvania case. The only time I ever fought it that way they dismissed the charges. Driving is a right.
#94. To: war (#93)
#95. To: war (#93)
#96. To: Abu el Banat, war, fred mertz (#94)
http://razoreye.net/downloads/driving_is_a_right.pdf
#97. To: A K A Stone (#96)
#98. To: Abu el Banat (#97)
#99. To: A K A Stone (#80)
#100. To: Murron (#99)
#101. To: Fred Mertz, Ferret Mike, All (#100)
Enabler.
#102. To: Murron (#78)
#103. To: Murron (#99)
"Stone, I have shown what you posted to several family members, all black, more christain than I am (thanks to the other g-mother), they are NOT OFFENDED, because they understood what you were saying, they were smart enough to know you are not a racist, and your anger is aimed at obama, not them."
#104. To: war, A K A Stone (#93)
#105. To: war (#90)
"Nope. Riding a bike isn't even a right. The only transportation that is protected is that done by your own two feet. Interstate movement can be controlled by the Feds and intrastate by local authority."
#106. To: A K A Stone (#86)
"I didn't eat a bite."
#107. To: A K A Stone (#79)
"Mike you get upset at a word. But you support a man who supports the murder of about 2000 black babies every day. You don't get worked up about that but about a word. Something is wrong with that Mike."
#108. To: Murron (#78)
"He is not here to debate issues, he's here to force his race-card carrying leftist political beliefs on you, a power struggle to control you, and this site."
"He scores points every time you apologize to him, stop it, you don't owe any damn democrat an apology, let that pisher go somewhere and start his own love- in site for Obama."
#109. To: All (#0)
#110. To: Rudgear, A K A Stone, ALL (#109)
Interesting how this thread got hijacked from the only real and uncontested documentation concerning Soetoro's birth to one about racism.
#111. To: Ferret Mike (#68)
I would say that face to face, you are very welcome to think your size will win you a fight. It always seems to be that way with bigger guys anyway.
#112. To: Murron (#110)
"That is exactly what Mike's intentions were, and are, to divert the focus from the originl topic. He ignored the threads topic, documents..ect, scanned through the posts and found his target, Stone, and turned this into his own personal crusade."
#113. To: Rudgear (#109)
"Interesting how this thread got hijacked from the only real and uncontested documentation concerning Soetoro's birth to one about racism."
#114. To: Ferret Mike (#113)
#115. To: war (#114)
#116. To: Ferret Mike (#115)
#117. To: Skip Intro (#116)
#118. To: Ferret Mike (#112)
#119. To: war (#118)
(Edited)
(snip)
#120. To: Ferret Mike (#119)
(Edited)
Since my daughter has left this filthy appartement complex '[deleted]', she has been living a clean life at home (ranch) with her father and mother.
#121. To: war (#120)
#122. To: Ferret Mike (#121)
#123. To: Abu el Banat (#122)
#124. To: war (#123)
#125. To: Abu el Banat (#124)
#126. To: Ferret Mike, Skip intro (#113)
This wedge issue concerning President Barack Obama, born in Hawaii is an ongoing thing and when racism was interjected overtly in the mix became a good focus of why this issue even is there.
#127. To: A K A Stone (#126)
#128. To: Murron (#127)
start posting really nasty, honest to goodness 'racist' threads, just to make their point this site is racist because we refuse to bow to their socialist bastard, but I trust you'll know them when you see them! jmho
#129. To: All (#0)
Third Hawaiian Official Denies Existence of Birth Certificate
#130. To: Skip Intro (#7)
Great idea Stone. Why don't you and Eric the Red try and follow through with it?
#131. To: Murron (#129)
#132. To: Murron (#127)
#133. To: Abu el Banat (#132)
Oh will you just shut the fuck up you stupid old bag
#134. To: Skip Intro (#133)
#135. To: A K A Stone (#126)
#136. To: Abu el Banat (#134)
Maybe we could make a deal with Goldi and trade her for Magician.
#137. To: Murron, A K A Stone (#127)
"I suspect, but can't swear by it, that since you have shown courage and will not be intimidated, that maybe the next move will for one of these liberal freaks to register under yet another goofy ppseudonym and start posting really nasty, honest to goodness 'racist' threads, just to make their point this site is racist because we refuse to bow to their socialist bastard, but I trust you'll know them when you see them!"
#138. To: Murron (#75)
You are so fking full of yourself Mike, your posts are documente proof of how supieror you think you are. Your assinine rants aren't about stone using a derogatory term towards that long-legged mack daddy, this was just another shot for you to show your ass, to show how morally superior, smugly virtuous you think you are, that's the way narcissists behave. It is about feeling superior to someone else.
#139. To: Abu el Banat, Murron (#132)
To: Murron Oh will you just shut the fuck up you stupid old bag
#140. To: Skip Intro, Murron (#133)
If she did that who would keep reposting all of this old WND crap?
#141. To: Capitalist Eric (#139)
As usual, when your arguments fail, you resort to the personal attacks.
#142. To: Abu el Banat (#141)
Thank you for admitting your 'arguments' against me have failed.
Oh will you just shut the fuck up you stupid old bag
#143. To: Capitalist Eric, Skip Intro (#140)
If you think it's crap, then perhaps you can provide factual data which contradicts her position? Let's put it more bluntly: put up or SHUT up, you loud-mouthed sack of shit.
#144. To: Murron (#143)
#145. To: Skip Intro, Murron (#144)
It's already been refuted. Try looking somewhere else besides Farah's dumping ground for your info. He's got a financial interest in posting this crap.
#146. To: Capitalist Eric (#145)
#147. To: Kafir (#146)
I just thought ...
5% of the people think,
-- Thomas Edison
10% of the people think they think, and
the other 85% would rather die than think.
#148. To: Capitalist Eric (#147)
#149. To: Kafir, ALL (#148)
#150. To: Skip Intro (#149)
#151. To: Kafir (#150)
Case closed!
#152. To: Skip Intro (#151)
#153. To: A K A Stone (#152)
#154. To: Skip Intro (#153)
#155. To: Kafir (#148)
he was illegally assigned the job
#156. To: Kafir (#148)
#157. To: Skip Intro (#149)
I checked with Glen Takahashi, the administrator of the Honolulu City Clerk's office, and while he verified that Adams worked there, he explained – gently making it clear he did not want to "call anyone a liar" -- that Adams never actually had access to information about Barack Obama.
#158. To: Murron (#157)
#159. To: A K A Stone (#158)
thanks for the update. Keep up the good work.
#160. To: All (#0)
"His title was senior elections clerk in 2008," said Glen Takahashi, elections administrator for the city and county of Honolulu . Takahashi indicated Adams was in charge of verifying voters' identity, especially those involving absentee ballots.
#161. To: Murron (#160)
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