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Title: FWIW: Tim Adams Signs Affidavit: ”No government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”
Source: State of the Nation
URL Source: http://state-of-the-nation.com/5571 ... ed-hawaii-hospital-time-birth/
Published: Jan 26, 2011
Author: SOTN/ Tim Adams
Post Date: 2011-02-14 17:43:08 by Murron
Keywords: Obama, birth certificate, Illegal Alien
Views: 130666
Comments: 161

Tim Adams Signs Affidavit: ”No government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”

January 26, 2011

“During the course of my employment, I came to understand that for political reasons, various officials in the government of Hawaii, including then-Governor Linda Lingle and various officials of the Hawaii Department of Health, including Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the director of the Hawaii Department of Health, were making representations that Senator Obama was born in Hawaii, even though no government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”

“I was told by senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division to stop inquiring about Senator Obama’s Hawaii birth records, even though it was common knowledge among my fellow employees that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama.”

Adams conveyed to World Net Daily, “I can go get my long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate. And so I don’t understand, this whole controversy should have been settled three or four years ago in about five minutes.”

Adams has stated in the past that he discounts the validity of the “short form” version of the Hawaiian birth record commonly issued to applicants which is called a “Certification of Live Birth”, the same document long attributed as the sole evidence used to proclaim Obama’s eligibility to occupy the White House. Until 2009, the Department of Hawaiian Homelands outright rejected this document as a primary form of identification for confirming native Hawaiian citizenship, let alone American natural born citizenship.

Many officials, including Adams, explicitly have said the short-form Certification of Live Birth is not an authoritative form of documentation proving that Obama was born in Hawaii.

“My basic assumption is that he wasn’t born there,” Adams continued in his interview with Dr. Corsi, “Certifications of Live Birth were given to people who were born at home, or to people who were born overseas and whose parents brought them back to the islands. If his parents were U.S. citizens, or if one parent was a U.S. citizen, as was the case with Obama, the family would apply for a Hawaiian birth certificate when the parents came back from overseas. That’s normally how you would have gotten on [a Certification of Live Birth] in the 1960s.”

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#1. To: Murron (#0)

He is an illegal alien. His purpose is to break us.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   17:45:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#1)

He is an illegal alien. His purpose is to break us.

He's doing a damn good job of it. I didn't know if anyone here interested in this topic had seen these documents, I hadn't, that's why I posted them.

BTW, off topic, HAPPY VALENTINE's Day stone....&;-)

Murron  posted on  2011-02-14   17:49:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Murron (#2)

I saw that document a week or two ago. I posted it within a thread. It does deserve its own thread. The Obama kool aid drinkers don't want the truth though. They can't handle the truth.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   19:52:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3)

Happy Valentines day to you too.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   19:53:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#1)

He is an illegal alien. His purpose is to break us.

Now what?

I mean, what happens now? How do we get this shitbag out of the White House?

Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum.

"You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai"

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-02-14   20:51:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Capitalist Eric (#5)

I mean, what happens now? How do we get this shitbag out of the White House?

I guess we wait until an election. Unless someone in the secret service decides to get rid of him.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   20:52:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#6)

Unless someone in the secret service decides to get rid of him.

Great idea Stone. Why don't you and Eric the Red try and follow through with it?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-14   21:06:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Skip Intro (#7)

What are you talking about? Who is Eric the Red? Is he a patriotic secret service agent? If so he could arrest Obama for not being a citizen.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:10:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Murron (#0) (Edited)

Birth announcements appeared in two different Honolulu newspapers announcing the August 4, 1961 birth of Barack Obama:

“My basic assumption is that he wasn’t born there,” Adams continued

On what evidence does he base this assumption?

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:15:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: go65 (#9)

bamis mommy wanted to get her british son American citizenship. Happens all the time.

Even Crissy piss down his legs Matthews admits Obama has no birth certificate.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:16:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#10)

bamis mommy wanted to get her british son American citizenship. Happens all the time.

what evidence do you have to support this claim?

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:17:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: go65 (#9)

On what evidence does he base this assumption?

On the FACT that no one even Hawaiis Governor can come up with a birth certificate.

Who is the doctor that delivered Obama again?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:18:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: go65 (#11) (Edited)

what evidence do you have to support this claim?

Surely you're joking.

Evidence? Evidence is the Devil's work to loons like Stone.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-14   21:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#12)

On the FACT that no one even Hawaiis Governor can come up with a birth certificate.

what evidence do you or anyone else have that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii?

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:19:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: go65 (#11)

what evidence do you have to support this claim?

Lack of birth certificate and common sense.

One thing you liberals should face. Is that a lot of people know that Obama has no birth certificate now. A lot of people who don't pay a lot of attention know/believe that now. It is going to be a big factor in the next election.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:19:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#15)

Lack of birth certificate and common sense.

We have a birth announcement and a validated birth certificate issue by the state of Hawaii.

Now again, what evidence do you have that he wasn't born in the U.S.? It's a simple question, answer it.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:20:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Skip Intro (#13)

Surely you're joking.

I suppose A K A was born on Mars. After all, he can't prove that he wasn't.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:21:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: go65 (#16)

Now again, what evidence do you have that he wasn't born in the U.S.? It's a simple question, answer it.

I'm still waiting for them to explain how the Clintons and every single Republican missed this during the election.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-14   21:22:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: go65 (#16)

You sure have a lot of faith in politicians.

You have a computer printout (I could make one too). And a Governor that said he would get a birth certificate and prove it, only he couldn't do that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:23:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: go65 (#17)

suppose A K A was born on Mars. After all, he can't prove that he wasn't.

That is the birther standard of logic.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-14   21:23:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#19)

You have a computer printout (I could make one too). And a Governor that said he would get a birth certificate and prove it, only he couldn't do that.

What evidence do you have that he wasn't born in Hawaii?

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:23:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: go65 (#21)

What evidence do you have that he wasn't born in Hawaii?

Obamas grandmother said she witnessed his birth in Kenya. Obama is an African brit. Not an American.

You really don't matter on this issue. You will support Obama no matter what just because he isn't a christian.

I talk to people on the street and tell them about Obama not having a birth certificate. They eat it up. It is going to be a problem for you guys come 2012.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:26:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Skip Intro (#20)

That is the birther standard of logic.

What were you hatched or something. birther lol

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:27:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Skip Intro, a k a stone (#18)

I'm still waiting for them to explain how the Clintons and every single Republican missed this during the election.

the basic fallacy is that they are making a claim that they can't prove. If Stone truly believes Obama was born outside the U.S. then he should be easily able to provide some evidence to back up his claim.

so we have proof that he was born in the U.S.:
- birth certificate
- birth announcements
- citizenship requirement confirmed by 50 states, the electoral college, and the House of Representatives on January 8, 2009

and the proof that he wasn't born in the U.S:
- absolutely nothing

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:28:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#22)

Obamas grandmother said she witnessed his birth in Kenya.

No, Stone, she didn't.

Understandable mistake from someone who thinks World Nut Daily is a legitimate news source.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-14   21:29:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: go65 (#24)

and the proof that he wasn't born in the U.S: - absolutely nothing

But they know he wasn't, they just know it!

That's better than proof any day of the week.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-14   21:30:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#22)

Obamas grandmother said she witnessed his birth in Kenya. Obama is an African brit. Not an American.

No she didn't, Hal McCrae said she told him that, she denies it.

See: http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2009/07/23/liddy

That's it?

Obama is an African brit. Not an American.

You really don't matter on this issue. You will support Obama no matter what just because he isn't a christian.

You are changing the subject, where is your evidence that he was born outside the U.S.?

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: go65 (#27)

I'm still waiting for the name of the doctor that delivered the sack of shit.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:32:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: go65 (#27)

Salon is not credible. It is run by red diaper doper babies.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone (#28)

What was the name of the doctor who delivered you?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-14   21:34:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#28)

I'm still waiting for the name of the doctor that delivered the sack of shit.

I'm still waiting for a shred of evidence that he was born outside the U.S.

Are you always in the habit of making claims you can't prove and then blasting others for not disproving your claims? As a Conservative aren't you aware that ours is a system based on the ideal that the onus is on the accuser to prove their claim? Haven't you ever heard of the term "innocent until proven guilty"?

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:35:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#29) (Edited)

Salon is not credible. It is run by red diaper doper babies.

So that's it, your entire argument rests on Ron McCrae's claim that even Obama's grandmother denies?

Seriously?

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:35:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: go65 (#31)

You guys don't even get it. You can argue with me all you want. People out here rightly believe what I am saying. It is going to cost you dearly in the next election.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:36:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: All (#0)

Governor (Hawaii) Abercrombie Admits Failure To Discover Obama Birth Certificate

Excerpts:

Veteran reporter Mike Evans said he spoke to Governor Abercrombie’s office who told him that Abercrombie had used his power as Governor to search records from all the hospitals where babies were being delivered at the time of Obama’s birth and that, “There is no Barack Obama birth certificate in Hawaii – absolutely no proof at all that he was born in Hawaii,” said Evans, pointing out that Abercrombie purposefully conducted the investigation to try and quash claims that Obama was not born in the United States.

“Now he admits publicly that there is no birth certificate,” said Evans of Abercrombie.

Evans said that he asked Abercrombie what his first memory was of Barack Obama as a child and that Abercrombie told him he recalled seeing Obama playing in the T-Ball league when he was 5 or 6 years old.

“What about before that,” asked Evans, to which Abercrombie responded, ” I don’t really remember much before that,” a retort described by Evans as “very odd”. Evans said that Abercrombie was shocked when he failed to find the birth certificate, having steadfastly believed that Obama was born and raised in Hawaii.

Murron  posted on  2011-02-14   21:36:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: go65 (#32)

Seriously he has no birth certificate. none nada

You anti constitutionalists really crack me up. Why do you hate the constitution?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:37:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#33)

MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was born in Kenya?

OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.

MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?

OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.

MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.

OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.

MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.

OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-14   21:38:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: A K A Stone (#33) (Edited)

You guys don't even get it. You can argue with me all you want. People out here rightly believe what I am saying. It is going to cost you dearly in the next election.

What evidence do you have that he wasn't born in Hawaii?

It sounds like you are hoping the American people buy into a claim without merit.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:40:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone (#35)

Seriously he has no birth certificate. none nada

What evidence do you have he wasn't born in Hawaii?

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:41:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Skip Intro (#36)

So someone changed their story. Doesn't surprise me.

Guess what. I've told about 6 neighbors about Obamas lack of birth certificate. They didn't vote in the last election. They are voting this time. It wont be for Obama.

Obama was raised overseas. He is only not a citizen. He is also not a cultural American. He can't relate to us REAL Americans.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: go65 (#37)

Stone and Mammy Yokum know better. In fact, they know better than the entire Republican and Democrat parties, as well as the judiciary of the entire US.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-14   21:42:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: go65 (#38)

It is already posted above. Your broken record routine is getting boring. Don't you have some abortions to perform or something?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:42:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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