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Title: FWIW: Tim Adams Signs Affidavit: ”No government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”
Source: State of the Nation
URL Source: http://state-of-the-nation.com/5571 ... ed-hawaii-hospital-time-birth/
Published: Jan 26, 2011
Author: SOTN/ Tim Adams
Post Date: 2011-02-14 17:43:08 by Murron
Keywords: Obama, birth certificate, Illegal Alien
Views: 130876
Comments: 161

Tim Adams Signs Affidavit: ”No government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”

January 26, 2011

“During the course of my employment, I came to understand that for political reasons, various officials in the government of Hawaii, including then-Governor Linda Lingle and various officials of the Hawaii Department of Health, including Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the director of the Hawaii Department of Health, were making representations that Senator Obama was born in Hawaii, even though no government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”

“I was told by senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division to stop inquiring about Senator Obama’s Hawaii birth records, even though it was common knowledge among my fellow employees that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama.”

Adams conveyed to World Net Daily, “I can go get my long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate. And so I don’t understand, this whole controversy should have been settled three or four years ago in about five minutes.”

Adams has stated in the past that he discounts the validity of the “short form” version of the Hawaiian birth record commonly issued to applicants which is called a “Certification of Live Birth”, the same document long attributed as the sole evidence used to proclaim Obama’s eligibility to occupy the White House. Until 2009, the Department of Hawaiian Homelands outright rejected this document as a primary form of identification for confirming native Hawaiian citizenship, let alone American natural born citizenship.

Many officials, including Adams, explicitly have said the short-form Certification of Live Birth is not an authoritative form of documentation proving that Obama was born in Hawaii.

“My basic assumption is that he wasn’t born there,” Adams continued in his interview with Dr. Corsi, “Certifications of Live Birth were given to people who were born at home, or to people who were born overseas and whose parents brought them back to the islands. If his parents were U.S. citizens, or if one parent was a U.S. citizen, as was the case with Obama, the family would apply for a Hawaiian birth certificate when the parents came back from overseas. That’s normally how you would have gotten on [a Certification of Live Birth] in the 1960s.”

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#9. To: Murron (#0) (Edited)

Birth announcements appeared in two different Honolulu newspapers announcing the August 4, 1961 birth of Barack Obama:

“My basic assumption is that he wasn’t born there,” Adams continued

On what evidence does he base this assumption?

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:15:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: go65 (#9)

bamis mommy wanted to get her british son American citizenship. Happens all the time.

Even Crissy piss down his legs Matthews admits Obama has no birth certificate.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:16:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#10)

bamis mommy wanted to get her british son American citizenship. Happens all the time.

what evidence do you have to support this claim?

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:17:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: go65 (#11)

what evidence do you have to support this claim?

Lack of birth certificate and common sense.

One thing you liberals should face. Is that a lot of people know that Obama has no birth certificate now. A lot of people who don't pay a lot of attention know/believe that now. It is going to be a big factor in the next election.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:19:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#15)

Lack of birth certificate and common sense.

We have a birth announcement and a validated birth certificate issue by the state of Hawaii.

Now again, what evidence do you have that he wasn't born in the U.S.? It's a simple question, answer it.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:20:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: go65 (#16)

You sure have a lot of faith in politicians.

You have a computer printout (I could make one too). And a Governor that said he would get a birth certificate and prove it, only he couldn't do that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:23:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#19)

You have a computer printout (I could make one too). And a Governor that said he would get a birth certificate and prove it, only he couldn't do that.

What evidence do you have that he wasn't born in Hawaii?

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:23:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: go65 (#21)

What evidence do you have that he wasn't born in Hawaii?

Obamas grandmother said she witnessed his birth in Kenya. Obama is an African brit. Not an American.

You really don't matter on this issue. You will support Obama no matter what just because he isn't a christian.

I talk to people on the street and tell them about Obama not having a birth certificate. They eat it up. It is going to be a problem for you guys come 2012.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:26:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#22)

Obamas grandmother said she witnessed his birth in Kenya. Obama is an African brit. Not an American.

No she didn't, Hal McCrae said she told him that, she denies it.

See: http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2009/07/23/liddy

That's it?

Obama is an African brit. Not an American.

You really don't matter on this issue. You will support Obama no matter what just because he isn't a christian.

You are changing the subject, where is your evidence that he was born outside the U.S.?

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:31:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: go65 (#27)

I'm still waiting for the name of the doctor that delivered the sack of shit.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:32:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#28)

I'm still waiting for the name of the doctor that delivered the sack of shit.

I'm still waiting for a shred of evidence that he was born outside the U.S.

Are you always in the habit of making claims you can't prove and then blasting others for not disproving your claims? As a Conservative aren't you aware that ours is a system based on the ideal that the onus is on the accuser to prove their claim? Haven't you ever heard of the term "innocent until proven guilty"?

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:35:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: go65 (#31)

You guys don't even get it. You can argue with me all you want. People out here rightly believe what I am saying. It is going to cost you dearly in the next election.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:36:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#33)

MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was born in Kenya?

OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.

MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?

OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.

MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.

OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.

MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.

OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-14   21:38:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Skip Intro (#36)

So someone changed their story. Doesn't surprise me.

Guess what. I've told about 6 neighbors about Obamas lack of birth certificate. They didn't vote in the last election. They are voting this time. It wont be for Obama.

Obama was raised overseas. He is only not a citizen. He is also not a cultural American. He can't relate to us REAL Americans.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:42:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: A K A Stone (#39)

Guess what. I've told about 6 neighbors about Obamas lack of birth certificate. They didn't vote in the last election. They are voting this time. It wont be for Obama.

Obama was raised overseas. He is only not a citizen. He is also not a cultural American. He can't relate to us REAL Americans.

What evidence do you have that he wasn't born in the U.S.?

Have you told your neighbors that you have no evidence that he was born outside of the U.S.?

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:43:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: go65 (#43)

What evidence do you have that he wasn't born in the U.S.?

Have you told your neighbors that you have no evidence that he was born outside of the U.S.?

They are not voting for Obama. They are pissed. The guy across the street even used to like Obama.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:45:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: A K A Stone (#45)

They are not voting for Obama. They are pissed. The guy across the street even used to like Obama.

Get back to me when you have some actual evidence Obama wasn't born in the U.S., ok?

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:50:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: go65 (#47)

Get back to me when you have some proof Obama is an American.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:51:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: A K A Stone (#48)

Get back to me when you have some proof Obama is an American.

Sorry, Stone, but the American system is that the accuser has to provide the proof.

Why do you hate America so much?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-14   21:53:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Skip Intro (#51)

Sorry, Stone, but the American system is that the accuser has to provide the proof.

That is how it is supposed to work. If it works that way then why did I spend 36 hours in jail last month for driving without a license. They automatically suspended it because they said I didn't have insurance april 2010. I had to go to cinci and prove I had insurance on that day to get my license back. Then the piece of shit prosecutor (I will out that pile of shit later) still has the balls to drop the charges only if I agree to pay their extortion court fees.

You are guilty until proven innocent in this country.

Unless you are a nigger named Barack Obama. Yeah I said nigger again. So the fuck what. When I was in jail for those two days all the blacks were calling themselves niggers.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:56:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: A K A Stone (#54)

Go fuck yourself. My son is the same racial background as Obama, you calling him that hateful and immature epithet? Stick it up your ass.

I spent 4 days in jail because a crankster gangster used my license from a stolen wallet in a traffic stop in Washington State. I lost the towing fee and had to pay my lawyer fees for getting proof to Clark County Washington I was working that day Dale Allan Beaty was stopped.

I also was in jail a day five years before that in Eugene for the same ID mis- use and had to clean violations he put on my license off.

I also fought a young man who did not want to get off the phone in the tier because he was talking to a female he was trying to impress. I needed the phone for legal reasons and it was the only way I got him off it.

You ain't the only person who has had shit happen to and I don't call people names because of the race of that particular kid, who was indeed Black.

Because I'm mature enough to care about humanity; something you chose to like only a part of.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-14   22:09:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Ferret Mike (#56)

I also fought a young man who did not want to get off the phone in the tier because he was talking to a female he was trying to impress. I needed the phone for legal reasons and it was the only way I got him off it.

Mike you may have a point on everythig except this one.

Saying nigger is just an insult. It doesn't mean I am a racist. I believe in one race, the human race.

Maybe I shouldn't say that but I did. Blacks say it all the time.

And that isn't the only raw deal I ever got from the pigs.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   22:12:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: A K A Stone (#57)

It is a term that says the user is a racist. No other way around it. If you called a friend or relative that insult to their face and I was there, we would immediately scrap. Make no mistake about it. I am highly offended.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-14   22:14:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Ferret Mike (#60)

and this where I bow out of the thread, good day gentlemen.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   22:16:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: go65 (#62)

and this where I bow out of the thread, good day gentlemen.

Have a good evening. It was a pleasure debating with you. We disagree but that is ok. I think you have a good heart.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   22:17:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: A K A Stone (#64)

You have no heart, and worship hatred and ignorance.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-14   22:19:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Ferret Mike (#65)

Mike I am full of love and happiness. You support the mass murdering black man. A baby Killer Mike. And you get offended at a word. But you are ok with baby murder by your chocolate messiah.

That is what I call fucked in the head.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   22:21:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: A K A Stone (#67)

We'll see how full of love and happiness if one of your kids marries outside of the Caucasian race or turns out to be gay or bi-sexual.

Dickhead.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-14   22:28:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Ferret Mike (#70)

Mike you get upset at a word. But you support a man who supports the murder of about 2000 black babies every day. You don't get worked up about that but about a word. Something is wrong with that Mike.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-15   7:22:10 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#107. To: A K A Stone (#79)

"Mike you get upset at a word. But you support a man who supports the murder of about 2000 black babies every day. You don't get worked up about that but about a word. Something is wrong with that Mike."

I don't support abortion, Stone. And yet I get the issue thrown at me all the time because of where I am generally on the political spectrum. That is getting a tad old.

Let's stick to the issue of offensive use of racist words.

You have a whole language called Americanized English to express any sentiment you wish without stooping to that linguistic and divisive low.

Don't change the subject; leave other issues for other threads on it, and don't pick on me about abortion.

The genocide of black babies is precisely a key reason I loathe the practice, and I don't like being told my omission at mentioning it every damn time I debate someone on another issue means I'm for it.

It means the thread was not about it. That's why I didn't mention it, and I get it thrown at me because of the views of others on it who are liberal. That's fucked up.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-15 11:43:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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