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Title: FWIW: Tim Adams Signs Affidavit: ”No government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”
Source: State of the Nation
URL Source: http://state-of-the-nation.com/5571 ... ed-hawaii-hospital-time-birth/
Published: Jan 26, 2011
Author: SOTN/ Tim Adams
Post Date: 2011-02-14 17:43:08 by Murron
Keywords: Obama, birth certificate, Illegal Alien
Views: 130715
Comments: 161

Tim Adams Signs Affidavit: ”No government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”

January 26, 2011

“During the course of my employment, I came to understand that for political reasons, various officials in the government of Hawaii, including then-Governor Linda Lingle and various officials of the Hawaii Department of Health, including Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the director of the Hawaii Department of Health, were making representations that Senator Obama was born in Hawaii, even though no government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”

“I was told by senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division to stop inquiring about Senator Obama’s Hawaii birth records, even though it was common knowledge among my fellow employees that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama.”

Adams conveyed to World Net Daily, “I can go get my long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate. And so I don’t understand, this whole controversy should have been settled three or four years ago in about five minutes.”

Adams has stated in the past that he discounts the validity of the “short form” version of the Hawaiian birth record commonly issued to applicants which is called a “Certification of Live Birth”, the same document long attributed as the sole evidence used to proclaim Obama’s eligibility to occupy the White House. Until 2009, the Department of Hawaiian Homelands outright rejected this document as a primary form of identification for confirming native Hawaiian citizenship, let alone American natural born citizenship.

Many officials, including Adams, explicitly have said the short-form Certification of Live Birth is not an authoritative form of documentation proving that Obama was born in Hawaii.

“My basic assumption is that he wasn’t born there,” Adams continued in his interview with Dr. Corsi, “Certifications of Live Birth were given to people who were born at home, or to people who were born overseas and whose parents brought them back to the islands. If his parents were U.S. citizens, or if one parent was a U.S. citizen, as was the case with Obama, the family would apply for a Hawaiian birth certificate when the parents came back from overseas. That’s normally how you would have gotten on [a Certification of Live Birth] in the 1960s.”

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#9. To: Murron (#0) (Edited)

Birth announcements appeared in two different Honolulu newspapers announcing the August 4, 1961 birth of Barack Obama:

“My basic assumption is that he wasn’t born there,” Adams continued

On what evidence does he base this assumption?

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:15:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: go65 (#9)

bamis mommy wanted to get her british son American citizenship. Happens all the time.

Even Crissy piss down his legs Matthews admits Obama has no birth certificate.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:16:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#10)

bamis mommy wanted to get her british son American citizenship. Happens all the time.

what evidence do you have to support this claim?

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:17:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: go65 (#11)

what evidence do you have to support this claim?

Lack of birth certificate and common sense.

One thing you liberals should face. Is that a lot of people know that Obama has no birth certificate now. A lot of people who don't pay a lot of attention know/believe that now. It is going to be a big factor in the next election.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:19:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#15)

Lack of birth certificate and common sense.

We have a birth announcement and a validated birth certificate issue by the state of Hawaii.

Now again, what evidence do you have that he wasn't born in the U.S.? It's a simple question, answer it.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:20:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: go65 (#16)

You sure have a lot of faith in politicians.

You have a computer printout (I could make one too). And a Governor that said he would get a birth certificate and prove it, only he couldn't do that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:23:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#19)

You have a computer printout (I could make one too). And a Governor that said he would get a birth certificate and prove it, only he couldn't do that.

What evidence do you have that he wasn't born in Hawaii?

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:23:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: go65 (#21)

What evidence do you have that he wasn't born in Hawaii?

Obamas grandmother said she witnessed his birth in Kenya. Obama is an African brit. Not an American.

You really don't matter on this issue. You will support Obama no matter what just because he isn't a christian.

I talk to people on the street and tell them about Obama not having a birth certificate. They eat it up. It is going to be a problem for you guys come 2012.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:26:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#22)

Obamas grandmother said she witnessed his birth in Kenya. Obama is an African brit. Not an American.

No she didn't, Hal McCrae said she told him that, she denies it.

See: http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2009/07/23/liddy

That's it?

Obama is an African brit. Not an American.

You really don't matter on this issue. You will support Obama no matter what just because he isn't a christian.

You are changing the subject, where is your evidence that he was born outside the U.S.?

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:31:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: go65 (#27)

I'm still waiting for the name of the doctor that delivered the sack of shit.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:32:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#28)

I'm still waiting for the name of the doctor that delivered the sack of shit.

I'm still waiting for a shred of evidence that he was born outside the U.S.

Are you always in the habit of making claims you can't prove and then blasting others for not disproving your claims? As a Conservative aren't you aware that ours is a system based on the ideal that the onus is on the accuser to prove their claim? Haven't you ever heard of the term "innocent until proven guilty"?

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:35:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: go65 (#31)

You guys don't even get it. You can argue with me all you want. People out here rightly believe what I am saying. It is going to cost you dearly in the next election.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:36:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#33)

MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was born in Kenya?

OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.

MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?

OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.

MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.

OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.

MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.

OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-14   21:38:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Skip Intro (#36)

So someone changed their story. Doesn't surprise me.

Guess what. I've told about 6 neighbors about Obamas lack of birth certificate. They didn't vote in the last election. They are voting this time. It wont be for Obama.

Obama was raised overseas. He is only not a citizen. He is also not a cultural American. He can't relate to us REAL Americans.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:42:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: A K A Stone (#39)

Guess what. I've told about 6 neighbors about Obamas lack of birth certificate. They didn't vote in the last election. They are voting this time. It wont be for Obama.

Obama was raised overseas. He is only not a citizen. He is also not a cultural American. He can't relate to us REAL Americans.

What evidence do you have that he wasn't born in the U.S.?

Have you told your neighbors that you have no evidence that he was born outside of the U.S.?

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:43:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: go65 (#43)

What evidence do you have that he wasn't born in the U.S.?

Have you told your neighbors that you have no evidence that he was born outside of the U.S.?

They are not voting for Obama. They are pissed. The guy across the street even used to like Obama.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:45:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: A K A Stone (#45)

They are not voting for Obama. They are pissed. The guy across the street even used to like Obama.

Get back to me when you have some actual evidence Obama wasn't born in the U.S., ok?

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:50:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: go65 (#47)

Get back to me when you have some proof Obama is an American.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:51:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: A K A Stone (#48)

What part of he was born in Hawaii confuses you, you stupid racist moron?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-14   22:13:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Ferret Mike (#58)

The nigger wasn't born in Hawaii. There I said it again. It is just a word, grow up.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   22:14:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: A K A Stone (#59) (Edited)

Your mama fucked an asshole into the world.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-14   22:15:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone (#61)

"Your mama fucked an asshole into the world".

And if that mullato in the WH had been around when your mama was carrying you, he would have helped her get rid of you, why should she be "punished" for being knocked up with you? This thread seems to have been highjacked by Ferret Mike and turned into some sort of self-righteous indignation debate. Apparently I did not receive the memo.

You are so fking full of yourself Mike, your posts are documente proof of how supieror you think you are. Your assinine rants aren't about stone using a derogatory term towards that long-legged mack daddy, this was just another shot for you to show your ass, to show how morally superior, smugly virtuous you think you are, that's the way narcissists behave. It is about feeling superior to someone else.

You get on here and pretend to be filled with outrage. You lean on your keyboard and yell and make sure everyone around knows that the website owner, or another member, is not behaving correctly, or at least how YOU define correct posting. The nerve of Stone! What a loser..eh Mike? sarc/

Everytime you get on here and rant about someone else using a word to discribe 'ONE PERSON' you are attempting to position yourself as better than them. I could be wrong, but I think you have low self esteem, you're unhappy in your life, people like you who are frustrated with where they are in life are most susceptible to self-righteous indignation. By finding someone here at LF you believe to be less than or worse than yourself and condemning them, you manage to feel some sort of superiority. (BARF ALERT)

Being intolerant of the mistakes, or what you believe to be mistakes of other people, and pointing them out the way you do, will not make you popular. And it can totally destroy any credibility you had.

Instead of berating Stone for the 'word' he posted, look at who his target was, and as for the word itself, tho is offends some, this is still a FREE SPEECH nation, Stone has every right to call Obama anything he wants, Stone did not attack an intire race of people, only your messiah, and if that offended you, tough, life sucks, find another thread to your liking. JMHO~

Here's a PS for you white man! You have not been hired, or elected, baby sitter, nanny or speech police for the black race. They do not need you, have never needed, nor want the likes of you to to defend them, they do just fine without you, you'd do well to take care of yourself and the baggage you carry.

Murron  posted on  2011-02-15   0:25:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Murron (#75) (Edited)

I have no idea what your point is other than to brown nose. I always challenge anyone using that offensive term in real time, right up to their face, and I don't shy away from doing so online either.

As far as your defense of Stone goes, he is welcome to delete my account. I don't post on racist sites, and any site where the owner uses that offensive verbiage is a racist site.

And as far as an self righteous clap trap from you, you have no standing to be taken serious after that thread trying to do character assassination on me by mentioning sex offenders with names like mine.

You have consistently been focused on being nasty since I first met you, and have consistently fallen short on your efforts due to your lack of education, lack of high ethical standards, personal problems with family drug use, desire to use other people's work you find online you try to pass as your own, and just general all around insanity.

Free speech works because people are accountable for their words. I call bullshit on stone because he tolerates racism from other posters, and engages in promoting hate speech himself.

So, go learn about free speech issues before you blather brown nosed garbage showing you don't know the first thing about the First Amendment. And get a spell checker so your posts become legible.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-15   1:14:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#78. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone (#76) (Edited)

You're pressuring Stone into bowing to the RACE CARD, shakedown artist Jesse Jackson, and that fat assed Al Sharpton have nothing on you. You're telling Stone what speech will be permitted on HIS OWN website, and threatening him with leaving if he doesn't, not to mention highjacking other members thread for your own AGENDA!

I don't SUCK UP to anyone you low-life liberal POS, I got your number you two- faced forked tongue euro weenie, and you hate me for it.

Stone, this is either your site, or a site that can be ruled by democratic liberal dictators, ordering you to watch what you say.

Mike is a sniveling liberal who is demanding you have respect for someone who is destroying this nation, he grovels at the feet of this filthy babykiller, and I don't give a flying rats ass if anything Obama is called offends him, because there is no love lost.

He is not here to debate issues, he's here to force his race-card carrying leftist political beliefs on you, a power struggle to control you, and this site.

He scores points everytime you apologize to him, stop it, you don't owe any damn democrat an apology, let that pisher go somewhere and start his own love- in site for Obama.

LibertysFlame, is it Conservative, or Liberal? Who owns this site, you or him, a tree hugging leftard, euro-weenie environmentalist who posts from some rented PC in a cafe?

Murron  posted on  2011-02-15 04:25:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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