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Title: FWIW: Tim Adams Signs Affidavit: ”No government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”
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State of the Nation
URL Source: http://state-of-the-nation.com/5571 ... ed-hawaii-hospital-time-birth/
Published: Jan 26, 2011
Author: SOTN/ Tim Adams
Post Date: 2011-02-14 17:43:08 by Murron
Keywords: Obama, birth certificate, Illegal Alien
Views: 130848
Comments: 161
Tim Adams Signs Affidavit: ”No government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.” January 26, 2011 “During the course of my employment, I came to understand that for political reasons, various officials in the government of Hawaii, including then-Governor Linda Lingle and various officials of the Hawaii Department of Health, including Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the director of the Hawaii Department of Health, were making representations that Senator Obama was born in Hawaii, even though no government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.” “I was told by senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division to stop inquiring about Senator Obama’s Hawaii birth records, even though it was common knowledge among my fellow employees that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama.” Adams conveyed to World Net Daily, “I can go get my long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate. And so I don’t understand, this whole controversy should have been settled three or four years ago in about five minutes.” Adams has stated in the past that he discounts the validity of the “short form” version of the Hawaiian birth record commonly issued to applicants which is called a “Certification of Live Birth”, the same document long attributed as the sole evidence used to proclaim Obama’s eligibility to occupy the White House. Until 2009, the Department of Hawaiian Homelands outright rejected this document as a primary form of identification for confirming native Hawaiian citizenship, let alone American natural born citizenship. Many officials, including Adams, explicitly have said the short-form Certification of Live Birth is not an authoritative form of documentation proving that Obama was born in Hawaii. “My basic assumption is that he wasn’t born there,” Adams continued in his interview with Dr. Corsi, “Certifications of Live Birth were given to people who were born at home, or to people who were born overseas and whose parents brought them back to the islands. If his parents were U.S. citizens, or if one parent was a U.S. citizen, as was the case with Obama, the family would apply for a Hawaiian birth certificate when the parents came back from overseas. That’s normally how you would have gotten on [a Certification of Live Birth] in the 1960s.” 
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#39. To: Skip Intro (#36)
So someone changed their story. Doesn't surprise me. Guess what. I've told about 6 neighbors about Obamas lack of birth certificate. They didn't vote in the last election. They are voting this time. It wont be for Obama. Obama was raised overseas. He is only not a citizen. He is also not a cultural American. He can't relate to us REAL Americans.
Stone and Mammy Yokum know better. In fact, they know better than the entire Republican and Democrat parties, as well as the judiciary of the entire US.
It is already posted above. Your broken record routine is getting boring. Don't you have some abortions to perform or something?
No surprise that you have very stupid neighbors.
Obama was raised overseas. He is only not a citizen. He is also not a cultural American. He can't relate to us REAL Americans. What evidence do you have that he wasn't born in the U.S.? Have you told your neighbors that you have no evidence that he was born outside of the U.S.?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
I asked you what evidence you have and all you can provide is a claim that Obama's own grandmother denies. That's it? Seriously? Why do you keep trying to change the subject? If you believe Obama wasn't born in the U.S. then surely you used some sort of evidence to reach this conclusion, didn't you?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
Have you told your neighbors that you have no evidence that he was born outside of the U.S.? They are not voting for Obama. They are pissed. The guy across the street even used to like Obama.
Where did that ugly assed black bitch named michelle say he was born. Oh yes her tongue slipped out and let out the truth...Kenya.
Get back to me when you have some actual evidence Obama wasn't born in the U.S., ok?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
Get back to me when you have some proof Obama is an American.
I don't think Obama is counting on winning Ohio in 2012 Stone. However, if you guys can do something really stupid like running Palin, that prediction might turn out to be wrong.
Palin would mop the floor with Obama. But then again anyone would.
Sorry, Stone, but the American system is that the accuser has to provide the proof. Why do you hate America so much?
If he isn't planning on winning Ohio. Is he planning on winning the election, and how. Also Ohio isn't the only state with us proofers in it.
Care to make a little wager?
That is how it is supposed to work. If it works that way then why did I spend 36 hours in jail last month for driving without a license. They automatically suspended it because they said I didn't have insurance april 2010. I had to go to cinci and prove I had insurance on that day to get my license back. Then the piece of shit prosecutor (I will out that pile of shit later) still has the balls to drop the charges only if I agree to pay their extortion court fees. You are guilty until proven innocent in this country. Unless you are a nigger named Barack Obama. Yeah I said nigger again. So the fuck what. When I was in jail for those two days all the blacks were calling themselves niggers.
I would have to out my identity to collect or to pay you. I'm not ready to do that yet. I have thought about it though.
Go fuck yourself. My son is the same racial background as Obama, you calling him that hateful and immature epithet? Stick it up your ass. I spent 4 days in jail because a crankster gangster used my license from a stolen wallet in a traffic stop in Washington State. I lost the towing fee and had to pay my lawyer fees for getting proof to Clark County Washington I was working that day Dale Allan Beaty was stopped. I also was in jail a day five years before that in Eugene for the same ID mis- use and had to clean violations he put on my license off. I also fought a young man who did not want to get off the phone in the tier because he was talking to a female he was trying to impress. I needed the phone for legal reasons and it was the only way I got him off it. You ain't the only person who has had shit happen to and I don't call people names because of the race of that particular kid, who was indeed Black. Because I'm mature enough to care about humanity; something you chose to like only a part of.
Mike you may have a point on everythig except this one. Saying nigger is just an insult. It doesn't mean I am a racist. I believe in one race, the human race. Maybe I shouldn't say that but I did. Blacks say it all the time. And that isn't the only raw deal I ever got from the pigs.
What part of he was born in Hawaii confuses you, you stupid racist moron?
The nigger wasn't born in Hawaii. There I said it again. It is just a word, grow up.
It is a term that says the user is a racist. No other way around it. If you called a friend or relative that insult to their face and I was there, we would immediately scrap. Make no mistake about it. I am highly offended.
Your mama fucked an asshole into the world.
and this where I bow out of the thread, good day gentlemen.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
Then all blacks are racists. They all say it. Or at least most of them do. I hear it all the time. If they can say it I can.
Have a good evening. It was a pleasure debating with you. We disagree but that is ok. I think you have a good heart.
You have no heart, and worship hatred and ignorance.
It sure would be easy to send you to jail. It seems like you have a temper Mike. That is not good for some little pipsqueak like you. I mean you attacked someone because they were on the phone before you and you were to impatient to use it. I've never lost a fight. Except one time in boxing.
Mike I am full of love and happiness. You support the mass murdering black man. A baby Killer Mike. And you get offended at a word. But you are ok with baby murder by your chocolate messiah. That is what I call fucked in the head.
He was supposed to bee on ten minutes, I waited 35. I would of won the fight had the guard not interferred. And I've won against larger opponents. It's kinda what happens when you spend much of your life working off steam learning and practicing martial arts. You also learn that knowing fighting skills doesn't make one a bad ass. It is a skill that tends to prevent physical conflict, not generate it. I would say that face to face, you are very welcome to think your size will win you a fight. It always seems to be that way with bigger guys anyway.
Mike you are right. I shouldn't use that word. To me it isn't a racist word. It is just an insult like calling someone a dick, asshole, faggot, cocksucker, bitch ugly, stupid etc. I honestly have nothing against someone simply because of their race. It is Obamas character and evil deeds that I have a problem with.
We'll see how full of love and happiness if one of your kids marries outside of the Caucasian race or turns out to be gay or bi-sexual. Dickhead.
Sorry if I offended you Mike.
By ANDY BARR Updated: 2/14/11 The opening of 2011 state legislative sessions has been accompanied by a spate of birther-related bills, the clearest indication yet that the controversy surrounding President Barack Obama’s place of birth will continue to simmer throughout his reelection campaign. Lawmakers in at least 10 states have introduced bills requiring presidential candidates to provide some form of proof that they are natural-born citizens, a ballot qualification rule designed to address widespread rumors on the right that Obama was not born in the United States. The notion that Obama does not meet constitutional qualifications to be president has dogged him since the early stages of the 2008 race, despite his campaign’s posting online his certificate of live birth in the state of Hawaii. The birther controversy resurfaced in recent weeks when newly elected Hawaii Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie, a friend of Obama’s parents, promised to investigate the issue and finally put to rest rumors that he was born in Kenya or Indonesia. Abercrombie later backtracked, citing the state’s privacy laws. So far, the conservative conspiracy theorists who have pushed national media campaigns and numerous legal challenges questioning the president’s eligibility have met little success. At the state level, however, the issue continues to fester. This year’s bills, if passed, would create a requirement for presidential campaigns to prove candidates’ place of birth, a proviso that sponsors say would finally clear up the matter. Election law attorneys say that if the bills are passed, states may be able to kick presidential candidates off the ballot for not complying — though a legal challenge would be very likely. “The Constitution gives state legislatures plenary power to set the rules for choosing presidential electors. A state legislature, in theory, as Bush v. Gore acknowledges, could even take away the popular vote for the president and decide on the choice itself,” said Rick Hasen, a law professor and author of the respected Election Law blog. Cleta Mitchell, a conservative election lawyer, made similar comments, arguing that “states have had latitude historically to require filing fees, signatures on petitions and other ministerial procedures — and providing a birth certificate verifying a person’s constitutional qualifications of age and citizenship seems perfectly reasonable.” The bills vary in terms of how election officials would sign off on the ballot eligibility of presidential candidates, a process that would be triggered by a presidential campaign’s application to get on the primary ballot. Some measures, such as one in Connecticut, would require the secretary of state to view the original birth certificate, while others would require an affidavit providing documentation of a candidate’s name and place of birth. “We don’t think the president was vetted, and it’s just that simple,” Texas GOP state Rep. Leo Berman said, adding that he doesn’t know whether Obama is “a citizen or not” but that he believes the question has not been fully examined. “I read different things that say he was born in Hawaii, and then I read the governor can’t find anything that says he was born in Hawaii,” Berman added. “Why the president won’t show a birth certificate is beyond me.” Berman said that he’s received “the foulest e-mails I have ever seen in my life” since introducing the bill, but contended he has a significant amount of support — if not yet a large number of co-sponsors — within the Texas Legislature. “My colleagues love it,” he said, adding that his bill will “pass overwhelmingly in the House.” But Berman predicted that Democrats in the state Senate would block the bill from getting the two-thirds majority it needs to pass. In Oklahoma, Ralph Shortey is one of three Republican state senators who have introduced bills seeking proof of birth from presidential candidates, and, like Berman, said he doesn’t know if the president was born in the country. “I don’t know one way or the other because I’ve not seen evidence one way or the other,” Shortey said, contending that the bill isn’t necessarily about Obama. “To be honest, I don’t care [if the president is a citizen]. He’s our president, and we elected him, whether he’s qualified or not.” The Oklahoman said his bill is not so much about the birther argument as it is about the questions that prompted the theory. “In Oklahoma, we can guarantee at every elected level that the candidate is qualified, except for president,” he said. “We need to ensure that the people on [the] ballot are legitimate candidates. ... If 10 states are taking on this issue, it seems to me that it’s a serious enough issue to have called attention to itself.” Missouri GOP state Rep. Lyle Rowland framed his own bill as a check against illegal immigration. “We have problems with illegal immigrants. And if something were to happen where one of them became popular with the people, we need documents proving if they are a citizen,” said Rowland, who believes Obama is a “natural citizen of the United States.” Hawaii Democrats are working on birther-influenced legislation of their own, designed, at least, to produce some revenue for the state’s trouble with the birthers. A new bill would allow the state’s Department of Health to provide copies of some of the president’s birth records — which the state had stopped doing during the height of birther activity — in return for a $100 fee. Because many states where the bills have been proposed are only beginning their sessions, the prospects for passage are unclear. Arizona’s seems the most likely to pick up momentum, as a similar bill was approved last year by its House before failing in the Senate. Both chambers were, and remain, under GOP control. The bill already has enough co-sponsors to pass the House again, and the support of the Republican majority leader in the Senate makes it quite likely that the measure will at least be brought to the floor. Arizona GOP Gov. Jan Brewer did not take a position on the bill last year and hasn’t done so this year either. Republican state Rep. Judy Burges, who sponsored the bill both times, did not respond to requests for comment. The bills in each state have been attacked by Democrats, who dismiss the birther movement as a collection of Obama-obsessed wing nuts. Bill sponsors interviewed by POLITICO said they had not communicated with each other or any national group, though some said they were influenced by news reports on bills in other states. “I read about it and thought, ‘Why shouldn’t we do this? This sounds like a good idea,’” said Connecticut GOP state Sen. Michael McLachlan. McLachlan conceded that his bill doesn’t stand much chance of passing the state’s Democratic-controlled Legislature, but said he hasn’t been deterred by opposition. “The issue just doesn’t want to go away,” he said. “Some people are insistent that President Obama isn’t qualified to run because he wasn’t born in the United States. Why don’t we just put the whole issue to rest?”
Say what? What kind of bird doesn't fly...jailbird?
And if that mullato in the WH had been around when your mama was carrying you, he would have helped her get rid of you, why should she be "punished" for being knocked up with you? This thread seems to have been highjacked by Ferret Mike and turned into some sort of self-righteous indignation debate. Apparently I did not receive the memo. You are so fking full of yourself Mike, your posts are documente proof of how supieror you think you are. Your assinine rants aren't about stone using a derogatory term towards that long-legged mack daddy, this was just another shot for you to show your ass, to show how morally superior, smugly virtuous you think you are, that's the way narcissists behave. It is about feeling superior to someone else. You get on here and pretend to be filled with outrage. You lean on your keyboard and yell and make sure everyone around knows that the website owner, or another member, is not behaving correctly, or at least how YOU define correct posting. The nerve of Stone! What a loser..eh Mike? sarc/ Everytime you get on here and rant about someone else using a word to discribe 'ONE PERSON' you are attempting to position yourself as better than them. I could be wrong, but I think you have low self esteem, you're unhappy in your life, people like you who are frustrated with where they are in life are most susceptible to self-righteous indignation. By finding someone here at LF you believe to be less than or worse than yourself and condemning them, you manage to feel some sort of superiority. (BARF ALERT) Being intolerant of the mistakes, or what you believe to be mistakes of other people, and pointing them out the way you do, will not make you popular. And it can totally destroy any credibility you had. Instead of berating Stone for the 'word' he posted, look at who his target was, and as for the word itself, tho is offends some, this is still a FREE SPEECH nation, Stone has every right to call Obama anything he wants, Stone did not attack an intire race of people, only your messiah, and if that offended you, tough, life sucks, find another thread to your liking. JMHO~ Here's a PS for you white man! You have not been hired, or elected, baby sitter, nanny or speech police for the black race. They do not need you, have never needed, nor want the likes of you to to defend them, they do just fine without you, you'd do well to take care of yourself and the baggage you carry.
I have no idea what your point is other than to brown nose. I always challenge anyone using that offensive term in real time, right up to their face, and I don't shy away from doing so online either. As far as your defense of Stone goes, he is welcome to delete my account. I don't post on racist sites, and any site where the owner uses that offensive verbiage is a racist site. And as far as an self righteous clap trap from you, you have no standing to be taken serious after that thread trying to do character assassination on me by mentioning sex offenders with names like mine. You have consistently been focused on being nasty since I first met you, and have consistently fallen short on your efforts due to your lack of education, lack of high ethical standards, personal problems with family drug use, desire to use other people's work you find online you try to pass as your own, and just general all around insanity. Free speech works because people are accountable for their words. I call bullshit on stone because he tolerates racism from other posters, and engages in promoting hate speech himself. So, go learn about free speech issues before you blather brown nosed garbage showing you don't know the first thing about the First Amendment. And get a spell checker so your posts become legible.
That was the first thing I saw when I signed on. Thank you for your apology. I come here because I hope things are evolving away from things that prevent open and honest dialog on stories in the news and issues because all they do is promote hatred toward others. I never ask anyone to not believe what they want to believe in, but I am not going to waste time on a site where hatred is the order of the day. Just an idea for something to think about, as if you want your site to grow, people will avoid a racist hate filled site, and people will leave when they tire of the sidebar issues drowning out more important stories or issues. I reciprocate by offering words of apology for any personal insults I made, as I said more than once, I have a temper every bit as epic as yours'. I am older and more experienced at activism, so I know better, thus make amends when I cross my own line. Talk at you later. And don't drive if your license is still suspended. Jail sucks.
You're pressuring Stone into bowing to the RACE CARD, shakedown artist Jesse Jackson, and that fat assed Al Sharpton have nothing on you. You're telling Stone what speech will be permitted on HIS OWN website, and threatening him with leaving if he doesn't, not to mention highjacking other members thread for your own AGENDA! I don't SUCK UP to anyone you low-life liberal POS, I got your number you two- faced forked tongue euro weenie, and you hate me for it. Stone, this is either your site, or a site that can be ruled by democratic liberal dictators, ordering you to watch what you say. Mike is a sniveling liberal who is demanding you have respect for someone who is destroying this nation, he grovels at the feet of this filthy babykiller, and I don't give a flying rats ass if anything Obama is called offends him, because there is no love lost. He is not here to debate issues, he's here to force his race-card carrying leftist political beliefs on you, a power struggle to control you, and this site. He scores points everytime you apologize to him, stop it, you don't owe any damn democrat an apology, let that pisher go somewhere and start his own love- in site for Obama. LibertysFlame, is it Conservative, or Liberal? Who owns this site, you or him, a tree hugging leftard, euro-weenie environmentalist who posts from some rented PC in a cafe?
Mike you get upset at a word. But you support a man who supports the murder of about 2000 black babies every day. You don't get worked up about that but about a word. Something is wrong with that Mike.
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#40. To: go65 (#37)
#41. To: go65 (#38)
#42. To: A K A Stone (#39)
Guess what. I've told about 6 neighbors about Obamas lack of birth certificate. They didn't vote in the last election. They are voting this time. It wont be for Obama.
#43. To: A K A Stone (#39)
Guess what. I've told about 6 neighbors about Obamas lack of birth certificate. They didn't vote in the last election. They are voting this time. It wont be for Obama.
#44. To: A K A Stone (#41)
It is already posted above. Your broken record routine is getting boring. Don't you have some abortions to perform or something?
#45. To: go65 (#43)
What evidence do you have that he wasn't born in the U.S.?
#46. To: go65 (#44)
#47. To: A K A Stone (#45)
They are not voting for Obama. They are pissed. The guy across the street even used to like Obama.
#48. To: go65 (#47)
#49. To: A K A Stone (#45)
#50. To: Skip Intro (#49)
#51. To: A K A Stone (#48)
Get back to me when you have some proof Obama is an American.
#52. To: Skip Intro (#49)
#53. To: A K A Stone (#50)
Palin would mop the floor with Obama.
#54. To: Skip Intro (#51)
Sorry, Stone, but the American system is that the accuser has to provide the proof.
#55. To: Skip Intro (#53)
Care to make a little wager?
#56. To: A K A Stone (#54)
#57. To: Ferret Mike (#56)
I also fought a young man who did not want to get off the phone in the tier because he was talking to a female he was trying to impress. I needed the phone for legal reasons and it was the only way I got him off it.
#58. To: A K A Stone (#48)
#59. To: Ferret Mike (#58)
#60. To: A K A Stone (#57)
#61. To: A K A Stone (#59)
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#62. To: Ferret Mike (#60)
#63. To: Ferret Mike (#60)
It is a term that says the user is a racist.
#64. To: go65 (#62)
and this where I bow out of the thread, good day gentlemen.
#65. To: A K A Stone (#64)
#66. To: Ferret Mike (#60)
If you called a friend or relative that insult to their face and I was there, we would immediately scrap.
#67. To: Ferret Mike (#65)
#68. To: A K A Stone (#66)
#69. To: Ferret Mike (#65)
#70. To: A K A Stone (#67)
#71. To: Ferret Mike (#68)
#72. To: Ferret Mike, Fred Mertz (#68)
He was supposed to bee on ten minutes
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Tim Adams Signs Affidavit: ”No government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”
#74. To: A K A Stone (#72)
#75. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone (#61)
"Your mama fucked an asshole into the world".
#76. To: Murron (#75)
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