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Title: FWIW: Tim Adams Signs Affidavit: ”No government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”
Source: State of the Nation
URL Source: http://state-of-the-nation.com/5571 ... ed-hawaii-hospital-time-birth/
Published: Jan 26, 2011
Author: SOTN/ Tim Adams
Post Date: 2011-02-14 17:43:08 by Murron
Keywords: Obama, birth certificate, Illegal Alien
Views: 133883
Comments: 161

Tim Adams Signs Affidavit: ”No government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”

January 26, 2011

“During the course of my employment, I came to understand that for political reasons, various officials in the government of Hawaii, including then-Governor Linda Lingle and various officials of the Hawaii Department of Health, including Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the director of the Hawaii Department of Health, were making representations that Senator Obama was born in Hawaii, even though no government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”

“I was told by senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division to stop inquiring about Senator Obama’s Hawaii birth records, even though it was common knowledge among my fellow employees that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama.”

Adams conveyed to World Net Daily, “I can go get my long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate. And so I don’t understand, this whole controversy should have been settled three or four years ago in about five minutes.”

Adams has stated in the past that he discounts the validity of the “short form” version of the Hawaiian birth record commonly issued to applicants which is called a “Certification of Live Birth”, the same document long attributed as the sole evidence used to proclaim Obama’s eligibility to occupy the White House. Until 2009, the Department of Hawaiian Homelands outright rejected this document as a primary form of identification for confirming native Hawaiian citizenship, let alone American natural born citizenship.

Many officials, including Adams, explicitly have said the short-form Certification of Live Birth is not an authoritative form of documentation proving that Obama was born in Hawaii.

“My basic assumption is that he wasn’t born there,” Adams continued in his interview with Dr. Corsi, “Certifications of Live Birth were given to people who were born at home, or to people who were born overseas and whose parents brought them back to the islands. If his parents were U.S. citizens, or if one parent was a U.S. citizen, as was the case with Obama, the family would apply for a Hawaiian birth certificate when the parents came back from overseas. That’s normally how you would have gotten on [a Certification of Live Birth] in the 1960s.”

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#27. To: A K A Stone (#22)

Obamas grandmother said she witnessed his birth in Kenya. Obama is an African brit. Not an American.

No she didn't, Hal McCrae said she told him that, she denies it.

See: http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2009/07/23/liddy

That's it?

Obama is an African brit. Not an American.

You really don't matter on this issue. You will support Obama no matter what just because he isn't a christian.

You are changing the subject, where is your evidence that he was born outside the U.S.?

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: go65 (#27)

I'm still waiting for the name of the doctor that delivered the sack of shit.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:32:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: go65 (#27)

Salon is not credible. It is run by red diaper doper babies.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone (#28)

What was the name of the doctor who delivered you?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-14   21:34:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#28)

I'm still waiting for the name of the doctor that delivered the sack of shit.

I'm still waiting for a shred of evidence that he was born outside the U.S.

Are you always in the habit of making claims you can't prove and then blasting others for not disproving your claims? As a Conservative aren't you aware that ours is a system based on the ideal that the onus is on the accuser to prove their claim? Haven't you ever heard of the term "innocent until proven guilty"?

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:35:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#29) (Edited)

Salon is not credible. It is run by red diaper doper babies.

So that's it, your entire argument rests on Ron McCrae's claim that even Obama's grandmother denies?

Seriously?

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:35:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: go65 (#31)

You guys don't even get it. You can argue with me all you want. People out here rightly believe what I am saying. It is going to cost you dearly in the next election.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:36:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: All (#0)

Governor (Hawaii) Abercrombie Admits Failure To Discover Obama Birth Certificate

Excerpts:

Veteran reporter Mike Evans said he spoke to Governor Abercrombie’s office who told him that Abercrombie had used his power as Governor to search records from all the hospitals where babies were being delivered at the time of Obama’s birth and that, “There is no Barack Obama birth certificate in Hawaii – absolutely no proof at all that he was born in Hawaii,” said Evans, pointing out that Abercrombie purposefully conducted the investigation to try and quash claims that Obama was not born in the United States.

“Now he admits publicly that there is no birth certificate,” said Evans of Abercrombie.

Evans said that he asked Abercrombie what his first memory was of Barack Obama as a child and that Abercrombie told him he recalled seeing Obama playing in the T-Ball league when he was 5 or 6 years old.

“What about before that,” asked Evans, to which Abercrombie responded, ” I don’t really remember much before that,” a retort described by Evans as “very odd”. Evans said that Abercrombie was shocked when he failed to find the birth certificate, having steadfastly believed that Obama was born and raised in Hawaii.

Murron  posted on  2011-02-14   21:36:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: go65 (#32)

Seriously he has no birth certificate. none nada

You anti constitutionalists really crack me up. Why do you hate the constitution?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:37:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#33)

MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was born in Kenya?

OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.

MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?

OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.

MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.

OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.

MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.

OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-14   21:38:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: A K A Stone (#33) (Edited)

You guys don't even get it. You can argue with me all you want. People out here rightly believe what I am saying. It is going to cost you dearly in the next election.

What evidence do you have that he wasn't born in Hawaii?

It sounds like you are hoping the American people buy into a claim without merit.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:40:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone (#35)

Seriously he has no birth certificate. none nada

What evidence do you have he wasn't born in Hawaii?

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:41:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Skip Intro (#36)

So someone changed their story. Doesn't surprise me.

Guess what. I've told about 6 neighbors about Obamas lack of birth certificate. They didn't vote in the last election. They are voting this time. It wont be for Obama.

Obama was raised overseas. He is only not a citizen. He is also not a cultural American. He can't relate to us REAL Americans.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: go65 (#37)

Stone and Mammy Yokum know better. In fact, they know better than the entire Republican and Democrat parties, as well as the judiciary of the entire US.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-14   21:42:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: go65 (#38)

It is already posted above. Your broken record routine is getting boring. Don't you have some abortions to perform or something?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:42:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: A K A Stone (#39)

Guess what. I've told about 6 neighbors about Obamas lack of birth certificate. They didn't vote in the last election. They are voting this time. It wont be for Obama.

No surprise that you have very stupid neighbors.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-14   21:43:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: A K A Stone (#39)

Guess what. I've told about 6 neighbors about Obamas lack of birth certificate. They didn't vote in the last election. They are voting this time. It wont be for Obama.

Obama was raised overseas. He is only not a citizen. He is also not a cultural American. He can't relate to us REAL Americans.

What evidence do you have that he wasn't born in the U.S.?

Have you told your neighbors that you have no evidence that he was born outside of the U.S.?

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:43:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: A K A Stone (#41)

It is already posted above. Your broken record routine is getting boring. Don't you have some abortions to perform or something?

I asked you what evidence you have and all you can provide is a claim that Obama's own grandmother denies.

That's it?

Seriously?

Why do you keep trying to change the subject? If you believe Obama wasn't born in the U.S. then surely you used some sort of evidence to reach this conclusion, didn't you?

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:44:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: go65 (#43)

What evidence do you have that he wasn't born in the U.S.?

Have you told your neighbors that you have no evidence that he was born outside of the U.S.?

They are not voting for Obama. They are pissed. The guy across the street even used to like Obama.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:45:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: go65 (#44)

Where did that ugly assed black bitch named michelle say he was born. Oh yes her tongue slipped out and let out the truth...Kenya.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:46:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: A K A Stone (#45)

They are not voting for Obama. They are pissed. The guy across the street even used to like Obama.

Get back to me when you have some actual evidence Obama wasn't born in the U.S., ok?

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   21:50:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: go65 (#47)

Get back to me when you have some proof Obama is an American.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:51:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: A K A Stone (#45)

I don't think Obama is counting on winning Ohio in 2012 Stone. However, if you guys can do something really stupid like running Palin, that prediction might turn out to be wrong.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-14   21:51:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Skip Intro (#49)

Palin would mop the floor with Obama. But then again anyone would.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:52:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: A K A Stone (#48)

Get back to me when you have some proof Obama is an American.

Sorry, Stone, but the American system is that the accuser has to provide the proof.

Why do you hate America so much?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-14   21:53:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Skip Intro (#49)

If he isn't planning on winning Ohio. Is he planning on winning the election, and how.

Also Ohio isn't the only state with us proofers in it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:53:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: A K A Stone (#50)

Palin would mop the floor with Obama.

Care to make a little wager?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-14   21:53:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Skip Intro (#51)

Sorry, Stone, but the American system is that the accuser has to provide the proof.

That is how it is supposed to work. If it works that way then why did I spend 36 hours in jail last month for driving without a license. They automatically suspended it because they said I didn't have insurance april 2010. I had to go to cinci and prove I had insurance on that day to get my license back. Then the piece of shit prosecutor (I will out that pile of shit later) still has the balls to drop the charges only if I agree to pay their extortion court fees.

You are guilty until proven innocent in this country.

Unless you are a nigger named Barack Obama. Yeah I said nigger again. So the fuck what. When I was in jail for those two days all the blacks were calling themselves niggers.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Skip Intro (#53)

Care to make a little wager?

I would have to out my identity to collect or to pay you. I'm not ready to do that yet.

I have thought about it though.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   21:58:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: A K A Stone (#54)

Go fuck yourself. My son is the same racial background as Obama, you calling him that hateful and immature epithet? Stick it up your ass.

I spent 4 days in jail because a crankster gangster used my license from a stolen wallet in a traffic stop in Washington State. I lost the towing fee and had to pay my lawyer fees for getting proof to Clark County Washington I was working that day Dale Allan Beaty was stopped.

I also was in jail a day five years before that in Eugene for the same ID mis- use and had to clean violations he put on my license off.

I also fought a young man who did not want to get off the phone in the tier because he was talking to a female he was trying to impress. I needed the phone for legal reasons and it was the only way I got him off it.

You ain't the only person who has had shit happen to and I don't call people names because of the race of that particular kid, who was indeed Black.

Because I'm mature enough to care about humanity; something you chose to like only a part of.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-14   22:09:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Ferret Mike (#56)

I also fought a young man who did not want to get off the phone in the tier because he was talking to a female he was trying to impress. I needed the phone for legal reasons and it was the only way I got him off it.

Mike you may have a point on everythig except this one.

Saying nigger is just an insult. It doesn't mean I am a racist. I believe in one race, the human race.

Maybe I shouldn't say that but I did. Blacks say it all the time.

And that isn't the only raw deal I ever got from the pigs.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   22:12:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: A K A Stone (#48)

What part of he was born in Hawaii confuses you, you stupid racist moron?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-14   22:13:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Ferret Mike (#58)

The nigger wasn't born in Hawaii. There I said it again. It is just a word, grow up.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   22:14:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: A K A Stone (#57)

It is a term that says the user is a racist. No other way around it. If you called a friend or relative that insult to their face and I was there, we would immediately scrap. Make no mistake about it. I am highly offended.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-14   22:14:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: A K A Stone (#59) (Edited)

Your mama fucked an asshole into the world.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-14   22:15:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Ferret Mike (#60)

and this where I bow out of the thread, good day gentlemen.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-14   22:16:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Ferret Mike (#60)

It is a term that says the user is a racist.

Then all blacks are racists. They all say it. Or at least most of them do. I hear it all the time. If they can say it I can.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   22:16:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: go65 (#62)

and this where I bow out of the thread, good day gentlemen.

Have a good evening. It was a pleasure debating with you. We disagree but that is ok. I think you have a good heart.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   22:17:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: A K A Stone (#64)

You have no heart, and worship hatred and ignorance.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-14   22:19:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Ferret Mike (#60)

If you called a friend or relative that insult to their face and I was there, we would immediately scrap.

It sure would be easy to send you to jail. It seems like you have a temper Mike. That is not good for some little pipsqueak like you.

I mean you attacked someone because they were on the phone before you and you were to impatient to use it.

I've never lost a fight. Except one time in boxing.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   22:20:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Ferret Mike (#65)

Mike I am full of love and happiness. You support the mass murdering black man. A baby Killer Mike. And you get offended at a word. But you are ok with baby murder by your chocolate messiah.

That is what I call fucked in the head.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-14   22:21:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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