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Title: FWIW: Tim Adams Signs Affidavit: ”No government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”
Source: State of the Nation
URL Source: http://state-of-the-nation.com/5571 ... ed-hawaii-hospital-time-birth/
Published: Jan 26, 2011
Author: SOTN/ Tim Adams
Post Date: 2011-02-14 17:43:08 by Murron
Keywords: Obama, birth certificate, Illegal Alien
Views: 130798
Comments: 161

Tim Adams Signs Affidavit: ”No government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”

January 26, 2011

“During the course of my employment, I came to understand that for political reasons, various officials in the government of Hawaii, including then-Governor Linda Lingle and various officials of the Hawaii Department of Health, including Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the director of the Hawaii Department of Health, were making representations that Senator Obama was born in Hawaii, even though no government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”

“I was told by senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division to stop inquiring about Senator Obama’s Hawaii birth records, even though it was common knowledge among my fellow employees that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama.”

Adams conveyed to World Net Daily, “I can go get my long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate. And so I don’t understand, this whole controversy should have been settled three or four years ago in about five minutes.”

Adams has stated in the past that he discounts the validity of the “short form” version of the Hawaiian birth record commonly issued to applicants which is called a “Certification of Live Birth”, the same document long attributed as the sole evidence used to proclaim Obama’s eligibility to occupy the White House. Until 2009, the Department of Hawaiian Homelands outright rejected this document as a primary form of identification for confirming native Hawaiian citizenship, let alone American natural born citizenship.

Many officials, including Adams, explicitly have said the short-form Certification of Live Birth is not an authoritative form of documentation proving that Obama was born in Hawaii.

“My basic assumption is that he wasn’t born there,” Adams continued in his interview with Dr. Corsi, “Certifications of Live Birth were given to people who were born at home, or to people who were born overseas and whose parents brought them back to the islands. If his parents were U.S. citizens, or if one parent was a U.S. citizen, as was the case with Obama, the family would apply for a Hawaiian birth certificate when the parents came back from overseas. That’s normally how you would have gotten on [a Certification of Live Birth] in the 1960s.”

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#109. To: All (#0)

Interesting how this thread got hijacked from the only real and uncontested documentation concerning Soetoro's birth to one about racism.

Aren't the ramifications of the thread enough to rivet attention without dragging racism into it by the hair to deflect attention? /s

Rudgear  posted on  2011-02-15   11:56:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Rudgear (#109)

"Interesting how this thread got hijacked from the only real and uncontested documentation concerning Soetoro's birth to one about racism."

This wedge issue concerning President Barack Obama, born in Hawaii is an ongoing thing and when racism was interjected overtly in the mix became a good focus of why this issue even is there.

This is a metaphor meant to tab racist sentiments in a way that gives it a sense of plausible denial as to what energies are being tapped to try to propel this to plausibility.

Ultimately this story has no legs and will go nowhere. But the point of this advocacy is to tap latent racist sentiment to use it in a manner to try to use racist inertia, and racist feelings to get at Obama.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-02-15   13:34:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Ferret Mike, Skip intro (#113)

This wedge issue concerning President Barack Obama, born in Hawaii is an ongoing thing and when racism was interjected overtly in the mix became a good focus of why this issue even is there.

This is a metaphor meant to tab racist sentiments in a way that gives it a sense of plausible denial as to what energies are being tapped to try to propel this to plausibility.

Ultimately this story has no legs and will go nowhere. But the point of this advocacy is to tap latent racist sentiment to use it in a manner to try to use racist inertia, and racist feelings to get at Obama.

You are full of shit. No racism. Obama was called a NIGGER because he is piece of shit destroyer of the nation. That makes him a nigger.

Take Herman Cain. He would never be called one because he is not evil like Obama.

Nothing racist about it. I'm not going to debate it. You wanna call me a racist then just say it to me so that I can delete you permanently. That is to anyone and everyone.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-15   16:31:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: A K A Stone (#126)

I suspect, but can't swear by it, that since you have shown courage and will not be intimidated, that maybe the next move will for one of these liberal freaks to register under yet another goofy ppseudonym and start posting really nasty, honest to goodness 'racist' threads, just to make their point this site is racist because we refuse to bow to their socialist bastard, but I trust you'll know them when you see them! jmho

Murron  posted on  2011-02-15   17:04:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Murron (#127)

Oh will you just shut the fuck up you stupid old bag

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-02-15   21:48:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Abu el Banat (#132)

Oh will you just shut the fuck up you stupid old bag

If she did that who would keep reposting all of this old WND crap?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-15   21:51:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Skip Intro, Murron (#133)

If she did that who would keep reposting all of this old WND crap?

If you think it's crap, then perhaps you can provide factual data which contradicts her position?

Let's put it more bluntly: put up or SHUT up, you loud-mouthed sack of shit.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-02-16   13:54:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: Capitalist Eric, Skip Intro (#140)

If you think it's crap, then perhaps you can provide factual data which contradicts her position? Let's put it more bluntly: put up or SHUT up, you loud-mouthed sack of shit.

I really don't care much for WND either, but you have to be careful wherever you get your information, I trust none of them till I check out their claims myself. I'm sure the brain, skippy, can point us to some media outlet with a flawless reputation for the factual data and refute what I have posted here?

Murron  posted on  2011-02-16   16:25:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Murron (#143)

It's already been refuted. Try looking somewhere else besides Farah's dumping ground for your info. He's got a financial interest in posting this crap.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-16   19:06:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Skip Intro, Murron (#144)

It's already been refuted. Try looking somewhere else besides Farah's dumping ground for your info. He's got a financial interest in posting this crap.

Translation of skippy's response: I can't refute it!

Thanks for playing!

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-02-16   20:31:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: Capitalist Eric (#145)

I just thought I would let you know that you are a bag of hot-aire. 0bama is the president, no matter your silly ideas and you aren't doing anything about it but arguing/agreeing with obscure posters on the Internet.

It PROVES your own worth to modify anything about your own country.

Kafir  posted on  2011-02-16   20:37:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: Kafir (#146)

I just thought ...

No, you didn't.

But a requirement of being in the vast majority of fat, stupid and gullible people of the world, who believe in the leftist agenda, is the steadfast refusal to think.

5% of the people think,
10% of the people think they think, and
the other 85% would rather die than think.
-- Thomas Edison

As to whatever passes for fleeting glimpses of intelligence within your empty skull, try to imagine how little I care, about what you "think."

Your alleged thoughts aren't worth two warm squirts of piss.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-02-16   20:52:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Capitalist Eric (#147)

Apparently you support Tim Adams' claims from some obscure website. Yet, you don't stick to the facts; President 0bama is your personal POTUS, even if you deny it; even if he was illegally assigned the job there is no way of removal him from office for two years in the future.

As I said before, you are a bag of hot-aire. You are just a gabby, little chit- chat cretin found everywhere on the Internet without facts to support your own opin.

Kafir  posted on  2011-02-16   21:00:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Kafir, ALL (#148)

From the WP nearly a year ago.

Honolulu city clerk debunks new 'birther' theory

Over the past few weeks, a Kentucky resident and teacher named Timothy Adams has made the rounds online and on talk radio with an extraordinary claim -- he was the "senior elections clerk" for Honolulu in 2008, where it was an open secret that the city and state had no proof of Barack Obama's citizenship. As he told WorldNetDaily, the racing form for birtherism:

I had direct access to the Social Security database, the national crime computer, state driver's license information, international passport information, basically just about anything you can imagine to get someone's identity. I could look up what bank your home mortgage was in. I was informed by my boss that we did not have a birth record [for Barack Obama].

I checked with Glen Takahashi, the administrator of the Honolulu City Clerk's office, and while he verified that Adams worked there, he explained – gently making it clear he did not want to "call anyone a liar" -- that Adams never actually had access to information about Barack Obama.

"Our office does not have access to birth records," Takahashi said. "That's handled by the state of Hawaii Department of Health. Where he's getting that, I don't know. Put it this way: Barack Obama was not trying to register to vote in Hawaii. He is, as far as I know, not a registered voter here. So no one was looking that up."

Takahashi explained that the "senior elections clerk" job that Adams held was a low-level data entry position dealing with voter registration and absentee ballots -- Adams was one of dozens of temporary employees who staffed the pre-election rush. And he contradicted Adams's claims that Obama's lack of a birth certificate was an "open secret" or that voters contacted the office to ask about it.

"To be honest, I fielded no questions about that," Takahashi said. "Why would anyone ask us? We don't have those records."

The internal contradictions of Adams's story haven't stopped him from expanding his media presence this week, most recently with a local TV interview in which he repeated his claims (some of them based on popular "birther" rumors from the Web) while, confusingly, stating that he didn't think Obama's eligibility was an issue.

Why the crap website WND has any credibility is beyond me, but then there are still people who believe what they see on Fox News.

BTW, did you know you can buy Corsi's brand new book about you-know-what directly from WND?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-16   21:21:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Skip Intro (#149)

Of course. Adams was nothing more than a part-time voter registration clerk. He had no access to any other records other than admissible voter registration qualifications looking for bogus duplications.

Case closed!

Kafir  posted on  2011-02-16   21:29:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: Kafir (#150)

Case closed!

Never as long as WND can keep recycling this crap to sell books and bumper stickers.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-16   21:36:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Skip Intro (#151)

Kafir is buckeroo and he is gone for the porn posts he made.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-16   21:45:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: A K A Stone (#152)

He posts a lot for a guy who isn't here.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-16   21:50:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: Skip Intro (#153)

He probably has 1000 ip numbers or more.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-16   21:53:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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