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International News Title: Crisis Puts White House in Disarray WASHINGTONThe defiant tone taken by Egyptian President Hosni Mubarakand widespread confusion about the meaning of his speechhad White House officials stumbling for their next step in a crisis that was spinning out of their control. Egyptian officials said Mr. Mubarak gave the Obama administration much of what it wanted: the delegation of presidential powers to the vice president, Omar Suleiman. They said Mr. Mubarak had all but been rendered a figurehead leader, precisely the formulation set out by U.S. officials over the weekend. But Mr. Mubarak's language and refusal to yield to what he called the intervention of foreigners left protesters furious, the scene in Cairo precarious and the White House seemingly unable to influence events. After a extended meeting with his national security team, President Barack Obama released the longest statement of the Egyptian crisis, making it clear the appearances of Messrs. Mubarak and Suleiman on Egyptian state television had muddled the transition process, not clarified it. "The Egyptian people have been told that there was a transition of authority, but it is not yet clear that this transition is immediate, meaningful or sufficient," Mr. Obama said. All day, as rumors swirled Mr. Mubarak would step down, administration officials struggled to understand what was happening, and even U.S. intelligence officials appeared baffled at one point. At a Capitol Hill hearing, Leon Panetta, director of the Central Intelligence Agency, told lawmakers there was "a strong likelihood that Mubarak may step down this evening." Mr. Panetta clarified later in the hearing that the CIA had received reports that Mr. Mubarak would "possibly" resign but said he saw a transition scenario under which Mr. Mubarak would shift powers to Mr. Suleiman, something closer to what appears to have happened. A senior intelligence official defended Mr. Panetta, saying he was referring to press reports in his comments rather than to CIA intelligence reports. "The agency has been tracking developments very closely, and there were very real and rapidly unfolding changes over the course of the day in what has beenby any measurean extremely fluid situation," the official said. "That's the nature of the intelligence business." After Mr. Mubarak's speech, the White House was consumed with a sense of "disbelief," one U.S. official said. Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, at the same hearing on Capitol Hill as Mr. Panetta, acknowledged the difficulty of predicting fast-moving events, comparing it to foreseeing "earthquakes in California." The White House is now squeezed between Arab and Israeli allies, who have complained that Mr. Obama was pushing Mr. Mubarak too hard to step down, and lawmakers who accuse the White House of not pushing hard enough. Now, the White House finds itself largely a bystander. "This is really bad," a senior U.S. official said after Mr. Mubarak's address. "We need to push harderif not, the protests will get violent." The official advocated raising U.S. pressure to force Mr. Mubarak from power, though other officials acknowledge Washington had little clout in Cairo. "Every day that goes by, you have to ask: who profits by this?" said Sen. John McCain (R., Ariz.), in an interview. "It's the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamic extremists. There's the perception that we're on the side of Mubarak." In the White House, frustration is giving way to a sense of powerlessness. "The mystique of America's superpower status has been shattered," said Steve Clemons, director of the American Strategy Program of the New America Foundation, who has attended two meetings with the National Security Council on Egypt. At a meeting with outside advisers Monday, four National Security Council officials were pressed on what U.S. diplomacy had accomplished. The officials said their efforts had helped avoid "catastrophic" bloodshed by helping to restrain Egyptian security forces, two participants said. Arab and Israeli diplomats said Mr. Obama's decision to throw his full support behind the opposition after eight days of protests has likely broken ties with Mr. Mubarak beyond repair. The move also had the effect of pushing Mr. Mubarak closer to regional allies Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, which have urged Mr. Mubarak to hold his ground. As a result, said one Arab diplomat, Washington's influence in dictating events in Cairo could be limited. The White House has focused outreach largely to Mr. Suleiman, the former intelligence chief, and military leaders. Officials and outside experts viewed Vice President Joe Biden's call to Mr. Suleiman Tuesday as a pivotal moment. In the call, Mr. Biden made specific demands which Mr. Mubarak appeared partly to address in his speech. "I don't think Mubarak trusts too many people from the U.S. anymore," the Arab diplomat said. "It looks like Omar Suleiman is the right point of contact, but they're all ticked off with the U.S. position, which they view as throwing Mubarak under the bus." In talks with American counterparts in Washington Thursday, top Israeli officials accompanying Defense Minister Ehud Barak made a similar case, warning that the upheaval could be the start of a broader "earthquake" that could sweep the region, said officials briefed on the exchange. They questioned Washington's wisdom in appearing to push for Mr. Mubarak's ouster and whether the military can keep chaos and Islamist forces at bay, a participant said. Israeli officials also told the U.S. Thursday that right-wing parties in Israel could gain strength in future Israeli elections as a result, complicating efforts to advance peace talks with Palestinians. The events in Cairo late Thursday left Israeli officials uncertain of how Egypt's transition would play out. One of the biggest questions facing the administration is the future role of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Mr. Clapper, on Capitol Hill, muddied the picture when he called the group "largely secular," despite long-standing U.S. concerns about its Islamist roots and ties to extremism. Mr. Clapper's spokeswoman, Jamie Smith, later issued a clarification, citing the Brotherhood's efforts to work through Egypt's political system. Mr. Clapper "is well aware that the Muslim Brotherhood is not a secular organization." Tom Malinowski, the Washington advocacy director of Human Rights Watch who has advised the White House, said that administration needed to quickly lean on the Egyptian military not to fire on protesters and to pressure Mr. Mubarak to leave. "I trust the Obama administration is pulling out all the stops to be clear with the Egyptian army what its choices are," he said. "This has to be resolved now. On Friday all of Egypt will be out." Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top Page Up Full Thread Page Down Bottom/Latest
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Crisis Puts USEmpire in Disarray Source: WSJ Told you this was coming as the Empire collapses. A primer for when the Bottom 09% of Amerikans get tired of their children being groped by Feds at the Airport. 8D
And I notice in the How We Got Here vids that the Camel Attacks are not mentioned. LMFAO
Zionists weeping. 8D Search Results: bush holding hands with evil BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 1. George W. Bush: Holding the Hand of Evil Feb 9, 2011 ... That picture to right is former President George W. Bush holding hands with the evil Egyptian dictator Hosni Mubarak. Cute, isn't it? ... the-classic-liberal.com/george-bush-holding-hand-evil/ - Cached Å8; George W. Bush: Holding the Hand of Evil | Before It's News That picture to right is former President George W. Bush holding hands with the evil Egyptian dictator Hosni Mubarak. Cute, isn't it? ... beforeitsnews.com/.../Geo...ing_the_Hand_of_Evil.html - Cached 4. Why Bush is holding hands with a Saudi prince. - By Fred Kaplan ... Apr 26, 2005 ... Monday's chummy meeting between President Bush and Saudi Crown Prince Abdullahreplete with a hand-holding stroll through the Crawford Ranch ... www.slate.com/id/2117517/ - Cached - Similar
The image didn't come thru. ;} 1952 King Faruk falls and the British Empire loses Egypt. 2011 This dependence on global public opinion is moving, but is also a sign of weakness. Had Obama and the Pentagon ordered the Egyptian army to clear the square however high the cost the generals would have obeyed orders, but it would have been an extremely risky operation for them, if not for Obama. It could have split the high command from ordinary soldiers and junior officers, many of whose relatives and families are demonstrating and many of whom know and feel that the masses are on the right side. That would have meant a revolutionary upheaval of a sort that neither Washington nor the Muslim Brotherhood the party of cold calculation desired. The show of popular strength was enough to get rid of the current dictator. He'd only go if the US decided to take him away. After much wobbling, they did. They had no other serious option left. The victory, however, belongs to the Egyptian people whose unending courage and sacrifices made all this possible. And so it ended badly for Mubarak....." ;}
Egypt Erupts (Part 12) UPDATE 1: Just got done watching President Obama's brief statement about the departure of Mubarak. His body language was in marked contrast to his words, conveying a sense of fatigue, of defeat, of the realization that he was not able to shape events in Egypt in a way consistent with perceived US interests." I noted same. And did you see the press corps? It looked like may be 10 folks who had been thrown together behind a rope looking at what could've been wax display.
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