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Title: Seven Reasons Why Barack Obama Is Not A Christian
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Christian Anti-Defamation Commission
URL Source: http://www.christianadc.org/news-an ... arack-obama-is-not-a-christian
Published: Jan 05, 2009
Author: Rev. Don Hamer
Post Date: 2011-02-10 18:58:15 by Murron
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Video Transcripts: Seven Reasons Why Barack Obama Is Not A Christian Monday, 05 January 2009 18:13 VIDEO TRANSCRIPT: Reason #1 Barack Obama Is Not A Christian Reason #1: Obama Believes There Are Many Paths to Heaven I’m Rev. Don Hamer on behalf of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission with reason number 1 why Barack Obama, who claims to be a Christian, is not a Christian, by any biblical or historic measure. In a 2004 interview with Cathleen Falsani, Obama said, “I believe that there are many paths to the same place.” Obama also said, “All people of faith—Christians, Jews, Muslims, animists, everyone knows the same God.” But Jesus said in John 14:6, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” Nowhere in the Bible is there a reference to Obama’s “many paths.” At a meeting of evangelical leaders in 2008, Obama was asked whether he believed Jesus was the only way to salvation. Obama replied, "Jesus is the only way for me."'[2] In a stunning example of subtle, diabolical deceit, Obama affirms Christ as his own Savoir then negates Christ as the only Savior of the world. Jesus warned us not to be deceived by those who would lead us astray. “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.” Jesus is the narrow gate and the only way to heaven. Obama’s view says, in effect, that Jesus’ death on the cross was unnecessary since there are multiple ways to God. The many paths of Obama are in reality just the broad road to destruction. Who are you going to believe, Jesus Christ or Barack Obama? VIDEO TRANSCRIPT: Reason #2 Barack Obama Is Not A Christian Reason #2: Obama Denies the Authority of the Bible I’m Rev. Don Hamer on behalf of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission with reason number 2 why Barack Obama, who claims to be a Christian, is not a Christian, by any biblical or historic measure. God’s people confess that the Bible is God’s inspired and infallible Word and the Christian’s final authority of faith and practice. In a recent speech Obama distinguished himself from those who believe in the authority of the Bible. “Now this is going to be difficult for some who believe in the inerrancy of the Bible, as many evangelicals do.” Obama went on to disparage and denigrate the scriptures. In a very cynical way, Obama twists selective scriptures to advance non-Biblical lifestyles using the golden rule to justify supporting homosexual sodomy. Obama even invokes the Bible by applying biblical pages to his campaign’s theme of political hope that actually refer to the hope Christians have in Christ. “At this moment, in this election, we must pledge once more to march into the future. Let us keep that promise, that American promise, and in the words of scripture hold firmly, without wavering, to the hope that we confess.” Obama twists the Bible in an attempt to lend credibility to his agenda, even though he denies the Bible and it’s clear moral teachings. Obama is even derisive of faithful African American pastors who treat the Bible with respect. For Obama, his opinion, not the scripture, is the final authority. Jesus prayed to His Father, “Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.” Who are you going to believe, Jesus or Obama? VIDEO TRANSCRIPT: Reason #3 Barack Obama Is Not A Christian Reason #3: Obama Supports Homosexuality I’m Rev. Don Hamer on behalf of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission with reason number 3 why Barack Obama, who claims to be a Christian, is not a Christian. Barack Obama is an unabashed supporter of special privileges for homosexuals, a stand that flies in the face of the biblical prohibition on homosexual sodomy. In the sermon on the mount, Jesus affirmed that every “jot and tittle” of the Bible is true, including the parts that condemn homosexuality.In an interview with the homosexual publication, the Advocate, Obama attacked faithful black pastors who faithfully proclaim what the Bible says about homosexuality. “…most African-American churches are still fairly traditional in the interpretations of Scripture. And so from the pulpit or in sermons you still hear homophobic attitudes expressed.” However, Obama lavished praise on his controversial former pastor and mentor, Jeremiah Wright, for being “very good on gay and lesbian issues.” Obama’s former church, Trinity United Church of Christ voted recently to approve of homosexual marriage. Obama dismissed as “obscure,” the clear and definitive teaching of the Apostle Paul in Romans 1 that calls homosexual acts “indecent” and “perverse.” Obama has also promised to overturn the Federal Defense of Marriage Act and promised to reverse the “don’t ask, don’t tell policy regarding homosexuality in the US military. When it comes to homosexuality, Obama opposes the traditional, biblical and historic standards of the Christian faith. Who are you going to believe, God and his Word or Barack Obama? VIDEO TRANSCRIPT: Reason #4 Barack Obama Is Not A Christian Reason #4: Obama Supports Abortion I’m Rev. Don Hamer on behalf of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission with reason number 4 why Barack Obama, who claims to be a Christian, is not a Christian by any biblical or historic standard. Appearing before a recent meeting of Planned Parenthood, the largest abortion provider in America, Obama proudly said… “I have consistently had a 100% pro-choice rating with Planned Parenthood and NARAL Pro-Choice America.” Obama says, “The first thing I'd do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act.” This act would stop states from restricting abortions of any kind, even partial birth abortion. Throughout the history of the church, Christians have opposed abortion because they believe that life begins at conception. Abortion is as an attack on the innocent human life of a baby who is made in the image of God. Obama recently said at a Forum hosted by Pastor Rick Warren that to know when a baby ought to have human rights it is “above his pay grade,” but he is very clear that a baby can be killed anytime, even after it is born. On four separate occasions Obama has voted against bills that prevented the killing of infants that are born alive, having survived an attempted abortion. Who are you going to follow, God and his Word or Barack Obama? VIDEO TRANSCRIPT: Reason #5 Barack Obama Is Not A Christian Reason #5: Obama Affirms Muslim Prayer Hello, I am Rev. Don Hamer for the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission with reason number 5, why Barack Obama, who claims to be a Christian, is not a Christian by any biblical or historic or standard. In a New York Times interview in 2007, entitled Obama, A man of the World, Obama fondly recalled the Islamic evening call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.” According to the article, “Obama went on to recite its opening lines with a perfect Arabic accent: “Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme! I witness that there is no god but Allah! I witness that there is no god but Allah! I witness that Muhammad is his prophet!” The article said this would “give any one living Alabama a heart attack.” Christians believe that Jesus Christ is God’s True Prophet, the full and final revelation of God. No true Christian can say the Muslim call to prayer is a “pretty sound” because it is a direct challenge to the truthfulness of Jesus Christ as the Word of God made flesh. Mohammad denied that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. The Muslim call to prayer affirms that Mohammad is God’s prophet. Jesus said, “For this cause I was born, and for this cause I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice." John 18:37 NKJV Who are you going to believe, Jesus or Obama? VIDEO TRANSCRIPT: Reason #6 Barack Obama Is Not A Christian Reason #6: Obama is Associated with Black Liberation Theology Hello, I am Rev. Don Hamer, on behalf of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission, with reason number 6 why Barack Obama, who claims to be a Christian, is not a Christian by any historic or biblical standard. For 20 years Barack Obama was a member of a Trinity United Church of Christ, one of the most radical “Afro-centric” churches in America, lead by Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Rev. Wright is a self described Black Liberation theologian who, according to Obama, was his spiritual mentor. Rev. Wright railed against the United States after the attacks of September 11th saying, “Not God bless America, God D*** America!” Wright preached that 9/11 was God’s “payback” to the United States for “ignoring black concerns.” Wright even said that HIV/AIDS (HIV / AIDS Victims 2) is a plot, orchestrated by the U.S. government, to kill blacks. Obama initially defended Wright, but then resigned from the church only after Wright’s radical views became a political liability. Black Liberation theology is from the 1970s and is based upon Marxism, socialism and class warfare. Although discredited decades ago, it still lives on at Obama’s home church. According to Black Liberation Theologian, James Cone, racial identity trumps the fact that he is a Christian. "The fact that I am Black is my ultimate reality… it is impossible for me to surrender this basic reality for a ‘higher, more universal’ reality.” “Black theology knows no authority more binding than the experience of oppression itself. This alone must be the ultimate authority in religious matters.” Black liberation theology declares that whites are essentially evil and are to be viewed as the enemy. "Whiteness as revealed in the history of America, is the expression of what is wrong with man. It is a symbol of man’s depravity… the coming of Christ means… destroying the white devil in us… in white racist society, Christian obedience can only mean being obedient to blackness, it’s glorification and exaltation… all white churches (are) anti-Christian in their essence." The fact is, there is a mixture of good and evil in every person and in every race. All have sinned and fall short of God’s glory. Jesus rejected race based theology. The Jews and the Samaritans of Christ’s day despised each other and even had rival places of worship, but Jesus said to a Samaritan woman. “The hour is coming and now is when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship him.” John 4:23 True worship, according to Jesus, transcends a person’s race. By creation, all mankind share one blood. In redemption, all who believe, from any race, are saved by Christ. In heaven there will people of every tongue, tribe, people and nation in heaven who have been saved by God’s grace in Jesus Christ. Who are you going to believe, Jesus or Obama’s black liberation theology? VIDEO TRANSCRIPT: Reason #7 Barack Obama Is Not A Christian Reason #7: Obama Has No Bona Fide Christian Testimony Hello, I am Rev. Don Hamer on behalf of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission with reason number 7, why Barack Obama, who claims to be a Christian, is not a Christian by any biblical or historic standard. By Obama’s own account of his essential elements of true biblical conversion are lacking, namely, conviction of sin, repentance and faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior of the world. When asked if he believed in sin, Obama said “Yes.” But when asked to define it, Obama said sin is, “Being out of alignment with my values.” Obama said he feels most aligned spiritually “when I’m being true to myself.” According to the Bible, when man sins, he sins against a Holy God in the violation of God’s holy law. Sin is not based on any man’s standards. Righteousness is obedience to God and his word. Obama is offended by the notion that all people need Christ in order to be saved. “The difficult thing about… Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize... There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they're going to hell.” So, if Jesus is not a Savior who rescues from hell, then who is Jesus to Obama? “Jesus is an historical figure for me, and he’s also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher.” This is not the testimony of a true Christian. For Obama, Jesus is merely a historical figure not the risen and living Lord. For Obama, Jesus is merely “a” bridge in the “Christian faith,” not the only bridge for all mankind. For Obama, Jesus is a means to some vague “higher” thing. To the Christian, knowing and experiencing Christ is the highest attainment of the Christian life. Obama venerates doubt, which is contrary to the assurance of eternal salvation and truth which Christ gives his people. Asked if he was “born again,” Obama answered, “Yeah … [but] I retain… a suspicion of dogma… I think that religion at it's best comes with a big dose of doubt… I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die.” Asked to describe the day he was converted Obama denies that there was any kind of supernatural enlightenment or an epiphany or a specific moment when he finally “got it.” “I think it was just a moment to certify or publicly affirm a growing faith in me.” Obama’s testimony does not have the marks of a bona fide biblical conversion. Jesus gives his assurance that “He who believes on me has everlasting life,” and “I go to prepare a place for you!” When asked where he finds inspiration, Obama does not mention a relationship with Christ. He does mentions a lot of things church, but not Jesus. When asked who was his role model he mentions Gandi. “Gandhi is a great example of a profoundly spiritual man who acted and risked everything on behalf of those values but never slipped into intolerance or dogma. He seemed to always maintain an air of doubt about him.” No mention of Christ. Without the public admission that you are lost in sin and that you have turned from your sin and put your faith in Christ and his shed blood as the only remedy for sin, you are not truly converted. Who are you going to believe, God and his Word or Obama?
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#32. To: Ferret Mike (#26)
Saddam was an asset to be used against the Iranians. Did you support the war Mike or oppose it? You can't have it both ways.
Jesus said if you deny him you are going to hell. He was either the son of God or a lunatic. I believe Jesus is who he said he was.
He is a liar Mike. Gods word makes it very clear that you can't serve two masters. He made it very clear that he is the only way to Heaven. Obama doesn't believe that. Will Obama believe that someday? I don't know, maybe maybe not. A christian CANNOT believe that Muslims have a path to heaven and be accurate.
Why should anybody pay any attention to you? You've shown time and time again you don't even understand the most basic concepts of your religion. Jesus said he was the only path to God. He is either lying or telling the truth. So if you are a christian (follower of christ) then you should know that he is the only path. Skip it is what the Bible clearly teaches. If you disagree that is your business. But you can't say that my position isn't in accordance with what the Bible teaches.
Do you support the radical Muslim Mujahidin and how Reagan and the Bushies groomed, supported and enabled them? Do you support Iraqi use of chemical weapons against the Kurds and Iranians as is well documented? I opposed the illegal invasion of Iraq, the foolish propping up of the Shah by many administrations, and the support of the radical Muslim Mujahidin which has come back to haunt us. I was in the Army during the invasion of Kuwait and was aware as everyone else was that Saddam did this thinking America had signaled him they would let him get away with this. What he found out was that the American administrations that had groomed and supported him also would throw him under the bus at a moment's notice.
This is your biased opinion, Stone. He has been a Christian a long time, and the evidence stacks against your contention.
It was support them or let the commies take over Afghanistan in their quest for a warm water port. It was in our interest to support the mujaheddin. The Shah was better then Khomeni. Did you really prefer the murderer Khomeni? That is sick Mike.
This is your biased opinion Mike be honest. Obama said he didn't raise taxes on anyone making over 250,000. He has Mike. I will name just one of them. Cigarettes. There are I think 7 or 8 other times. Mike he is a liar. Are you in denial? Are you going to try and twist and spin an obvious fact? Do so at the peril of your own reputation.
Mike your president called the Koran Holy. The Koran denies that Christ was the son of God. Mike that is antichrist. You can't be antichrist and a christian at the same time. Mike Obama even said in an interview "his muslim faith".
A president cannot favor one religion -- even his own -- and not violate his oath of office to defend uphold and protect the U.S. Constitution, part of which is the First Amendment guaranteeing religious freedom. It is the President's job to work against people scapegoating and attacking people because the religion they believe is is different than that of the attackers. The Constitution is there to protect smaller groups from the whims and caprice of larger or majority groups. You yourself defend Judaism, does that mean you are anti-Christian and an anti- Christ? Christianity, Islam and Judaism all have much of the same stores as part of their scripture and are all patriarchal. They have their graces and faults as faiths and have followers and supporters in these United States. President Obama's job is to defend ecumenism. HE is just doing his job when he encourages religious tolerance.
Mike that is crazy. The first amendment clearly recognizes a right to have your own religious beliefs. The President or any person can (under our constitution) favor any religion that they want to. That is called free exercise. What you said was utter nonsense.
That is not the Presidents job. However if he wants to speak out and say that people should get along with each other. There is nothing to prohibit him from doing that. It isn't even a bad idea. But it certainly is not his job.
It is there to protect everyone. In theory.
The Jews have not learned about Jesus yet. At least some of them haven't. They just need to add the new testament and practice the whole Bible not just part of it. (short version explanation)
The Koran respects Jesus as a prophet, and has a special relationship with his mother Mary. And it is religious text held by it's believers to be as holy as you and Judaism holds the Bible to be. As far as that hatchet job of selecting and editing President Obama's past speeches go, the claim Obama said he was Muslim falls apart when you look at the speech they did selective and creative editing goes. We also did this to Hitler in WW II when people were enraged seeing Hitler dance in celebration at death and conquest. it wasn't until the late 50s or early 60s it was revealed how this was a looped segment of film made to look like he was dancing but actually wasn't. There are lots of inaccurate You Tube fims out there, including many that inaccurately criminalize Reagan and Bush; so what?
Christianity and Islam are wholly incompatible and at odds. They are enemies. As in Good and evil being enemies. Christianity being good of course. There are no faults in the Bible, just in many of its followers. On the other hand Islam is nothing but faults and their followers become more evil by acting out on what that satanic book teaches.
In other words, you contend they are deluded and dupes, and sooner or later people like you will save them from themselves. Sorry Stone, they have a religion that deserves respect as it is, just as is the case with Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, or any other faith in the world.
More utter nonsense. If Obama was trying to be the religious police by defending ecumenism that would put him at odds with the free exercise clause. It is peoples right to worship as they please. If they believe correctly that there is only one God and one way. Who is the president to try and trample on that?
The Koran is of satan. Of course it is camouflaged and cloaked in half truths. It is what gave it a little credibility to the more foolish inhabitants of the planet.
These two faiths are in deep competition for converts by fanatical branches of both faiths, but they are very compatible. I have studied the Bible and Koran and there is beauty and truth in both. I dare you to do the same and refute this.
That is why I said they are antichrist. They deny that Christ is the Messiah. Mike this is simple stuff. It is Bible 101. You don't have to believe it if you want but don't try and twist stuff.
The Koran makes much mention of Satan and blasts him. I only see your opinion here with no citation or documentation backing up this opinion of yours'. I have many Muslim friends and they are like anyone else; they love their children and work for their future. They care about good and knock things evil. mankind has many religions, Stone, and they have all as a common theme to look for truth and beauty in things and work to the detriment of wrong and evil. I only see your bias and unreasonable hatred of over a billion people based on their faith. Your hatred of Islam is your cross to bear Stone, not theirs'.
Your slander of Islam is your twisted hatred and bigotry at play. Physician, heal thyself.
You in a word say people have freedom of religion ONLY if they accept Christianity as you see this. Would you like some of the various Supreme Court decisions to the contrary? The First Amendment is there to defend smaller faiths from oppression from larger ones. It also defends the right not to have a religion or to believe in God or other higher powers. You have no ground to stand on when you try to twist the words of th First Amendment to best benefit your faith.
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I never said that. No one should or can really be forced to be a christian.
It does no such thing. If it does give me the words in the constitution that make that point.
Here is a page of links to precedents and decisions by the SCOTUS regarding religious freedom. There is an overwhelming amount of Stare decisis that forge what I say into principles for religious freedom in these United States. Peruse them, they contend exactly what I say, as they are the decisions that mold and shape the principle of religious respect and tolerance in this country.
I care not what the black robed fools say. The constitution means what it says it means not what these usurpers make up and "shape".
It does, which is why the school prayer decision in the early 1960s brought to the high court by atheists won and school prayer was ended in public schools. Principles ensconced in the First Amendment upheld by the Supreme Court says otherwise.
Principles ensconced in the First Amendment upheld by the Supreme Court says otherwise. Mike words have meanings. Don't give me usurptions. Give me honest words FROM THE CONSTITUTION that make your point. You can't because it doesn't.
Mike I think people have a right not to believe. That is their choice. It just isn't addressed in the constitution.
The principle law in these United States operates under the auspices of is Stare decisis. They are the branch of government the Constitution gives the task to to determine what the Constitution means, not you.
They are the branch of government the Constitution gives the task to to determine what the Constitution means, not you. What words in the constitution lead you to believe that the Supreme Court can change the meaning of words and what the constitution says.
Wrong, the First Amendment does, and the SCOTUS has on numerous occasions upholds the right to believe or not believe religiously as one wishes and has acted to protect smaller faiths against the wrath and intolerence of larger faiths with more resources to bring to bear against them. Go hire then fire someone because of their religion or lack of one and see what happens to if they have the necessary evidence to prove this in civil court. They would sue your ass into the poor house and win.
Stare decisis (Anglo-Latin pronunciation: /Èst[Yri dhÈsajshs]) is a legal principle by which judges are obliged to respect the precedents established by prior decisions. The words originate from the phrasing of the principle in the Latin maxim Stare decisis et non quieta movere: "to stand by decisions and not disturb the undisturbed."[1] In a legal context, this is understood to mean that courts should generally abide by precedents and not disturb settled matters.[1] This doctrine requires a Court to follow rules established by a superior court. The doctrine that holdings have binding precedence value is not valid within most civil law jurisdictions as it is generally understood that this principle interferes with the right of judges to interpret law and the right of the legislature to make law.[citation needed] Most such systems, however, recognize the concept of jurisprudence constante, which argues that even though judges are independent, they should judge in a predictable and non-chaotic manner. Therefore, judges' right to interpret law does not preclude the adoption of a small number of selected binding case laws. Read, learn, enlighten yourself.
Mike I have asked for 3 quotes from the constitution to back up your claim. You can't address those questions. If you can't address them I am not going to waste any more time trying to educate you.
Mike that wasn't the constitution.
A unifying theme of Graham's new thinking is humility. He is sure and certain of his faith in Jesus as the way to salvation. When asked whether he believes heaven will be closed to good Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus or secular people, though, Graham says: "Those are decisions only the Lord will make. It would be foolish for me to speculate on who will be there and who won't ... I don't want to speculate about all that. I believe the love of God is absolute. He said he gave his son for the whole world, and I think he loves everybody regardless of what label they have." Such an ecumenical spirit may upset some Christian hard-liners, but in Graham's view, only God knows who is going to be saved: "As an evangelist for more than six decades, Mr. Graham has faithfully proclaimed the Bible's Gospel message that Jesus is the only way to Heaven," says Graham spokesman A. Larry Ross. "However, salvation is the work of Almighty God, and only he knows what is in each human heart. http://www.newsweek.com/2006/08/13/pilgrim-s-progress.html#
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
That is true. Obama could change. But as it stands now we have a man calling the Koran "holy". That isn't biblical or accurate. I suppose he could be just a really stupid christian. But I seriously doubt it.
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#34. To: Ferret Mike (#18)
President Barack Obama speaking at the 2011 National Prayer Breakfast, sharing about how he came to embrace Jesus Christ ‘as my Lord and Saviour’.
#35. To: Skip Intro (#16)
According to people like you, everybody but you is going to hell.
#36. To: A K A Stone (#32)
#37. To: A K A Stone (#34)
"He is a liar Mike."
#38. To: Ferret Mike (#36)
Do you support the radical Muslim Mujahidin
#39. To: Ferret Mike (#37)
"He is a liar Mike."
#40. To: Ferret Mike (#37)
#41. To: A K A Stone (#34)
"A Christian CANNOT believe that Muslims have a path to heaven and be accurate."
#42. To: Ferret Mike (#41)
A president cannot favor one religion -- even his own -- and not violate his oath of office to defend uphold and protect the U.S. Constitution, part of which is the First Amendment guaranteeing religious freedom.
#43. To: Ferret Mike (#41)
It is the President's job to work against people scapegoating and attacking people because the religion they believe is is different than that of the attackers.
#44. To: Ferret Mike (#41)
The Constitution is there to protect smaller groups from the whims and caprice of larger or majority groups.
#45. To: Ferret Mike (#41)
You yourself defend Judaism, does that mean you are anti-Christian and an anti- Christ?
#46. To: A K A Stone (#40)
#47. To: Ferret Mike (#41)
Christianity, Islam and Judaism all have much of the same stores as part of their scripture and are all patriarchal. They have their graces and faults as faiths and have followers and supporters in these United States.
#48. To: A K A Stone (#45)
#49. To: Ferret Mike (#41)
President Obama's job is to defend ecumenism. HE is just doing his job when he encourages religious tolerance.
#50. To: Ferret Mike (#46)
The Koran respects Jesus as a prophet, and has a special relationship with his mother Mary
#51. To: A K A Stone (#47)
#52. To: Ferret Mike (#46)
And it is religious text held by it's believers to be as holy as you and Judaism holds the Bible to be.
#53. To: A K A Stone (#50)
"The Koran is of satan."
#54. To: A K A Stone (#52)
"You don't have to believe it if you want but don't try and twist stuff."
#55. To: A K A Stone (#49)
"More utter nonsense. If Obama was trying to be the religious police by defending ecumenism that would put him at odds with the free exercise clause. It is peoples right to worship as they please. If they believe correctly that there is only one God and one way. Who is the president to try and trample on that?"
#56. To: Ferret Mike (#53)
#57. To: Ferret Mike (#55)
You in a word say people have freedom of religion ONLY if they accept Christianity as you see this.
#58. To: Ferret Mike (#55)
It also defends the right not to have a religion or to believe in God or other higher powers.
#59. To: A K A Stone (#50)
The following are Profiles of major Supreme Court decisions that have shaped the definition of religious liberty in America. They have been organized into the categories of Government Intervention, Free Exercise of Religion, and Establishment of Religion. They contain a brief summary of the cases and the significance of the decisions. Some newer cases also have links to RealAudio of the oral arguments (from oyez.nwu.edu). To read to actual decision from FindLaw, click on the citation number provided in each page. For direct access to the decisions go to the Links to the Decisions.
#60. To: Ferret Mike (#59)
#61. To: A K A Stone (#58)
"It does no such thing. If it does give me the words in the constitution that make that point."
#62. To: Ferret Mike (#61)
It does, which is why the school prayer decision in the early 1960s brought to the high court by atheists won and school prayer was ended in public schools.
#63. To: Ferret Mike (#61)
#64. To: A K A Stone (#60)
"I care not what the black robed fools say. The constitution means what it says it means not what these usurpers make up and "shape"."
#65. To: Ferret Mike (#64)
The principle law in these United States operates under the auspices of is Stare decisis.
#66. To: A K A Stone (#63)
"I think people have a right not to believe. That is their choice. It just isn't addressed in the constitution."
#67. To: A K A Stone (#65)
"What words in the constitution lead you to believe that the Supreme Court can change the meaning of words and what the constitution says."
#68. To: Ferret Mike (#66)
#69. To: Ferret Mike (#67)
#70. To: A K A Stone (#15)
Obama does say there are many paths. That makes him an antichrist. For he denies what christ clearly taught. That means Obama is going to hell. Why would anyone want a leader of their country who is going to hell?
#71. To: lucysmom (#70)
only God knows who is going to be saved:
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