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Title: Seven Reasons Why Barack Obama Is Not A Christian
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Christian Anti-Defamation Commission
URL Source: http://www.christianadc.org/news-an ... arack-obama-is-not-a-christian
Published: Jan 05, 2009
Author: Rev. Don Hamer
Post Date: 2011-02-10 18:58:15 by Murron
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Video Transcripts: Seven Reasons Why Barack Obama Is Not A Christian Monday, 05 January 2009 18:13 VIDEO TRANSCRIPT: Reason #1 Barack Obama Is Not A Christian Reason #1: Obama Believes There Are Many Paths to Heaven I’m Rev. Don Hamer on behalf of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission with reason number 1 why Barack Obama, who claims to be a Christian, is not a Christian, by any biblical or historic measure. In a 2004 interview with Cathleen Falsani, Obama said, “I believe that there are many paths to the same place.” Obama also said, “All people of faith—Christians, Jews, Muslims, animists, everyone knows the same God.” But Jesus said in John 14:6, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” Nowhere in the Bible is there a reference to Obama’s “many paths.” At a meeting of evangelical leaders in 2008, Obama was asked whether he believed Jesus was the only way to salvation. Obama replied, "Jesus is the only way for me."'[2] In a stunning example of subtle, diabolical deceit, Obama affirms Christ as his own Savoir then negates Christ as the only Savior of the world. Jesus warned us not to be deceived by those who would lead us astray. “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.” Jesus is the narrow gate and the only way to heaven. Obama’s view says, in effect, that Jesus’ death on the cross was unnecessary since there are multiple ways to God. The many paths of Obama are in reality just the broad road to destruction. Who are you going to believe, Jesus Christ or Barack Obama? VIDEO TRANSCRIPT: Reason #2 Barack Obama Is Not A Christian Reason #2: Obama Denies the Authority of the Bible I’m Rev. Don Hamer on behalf of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission with reason number 2 why Barack Obama, who claims to be a Christian, is not a Christian, by any biblical or historic measure. God’s people confess that the Bible is God’s inspired and infallible Word and the Christian’s final authority of faith and practice. In a recent speech Obama distinguished himself from those who believe in the authority of the Bible. “Now this is going to be difficult for some who believe in the inerrancy of the Bible, as many evangelicals do.” Obama went on to disparage and denigrate the scriptures. In a very cynical way, Obama twists selective scriptures to advance non-Biblical lifestyles using the golden rule to justify supporting homosexual sodomy. Obama even invokes the Bible by applying biblical pages to his campaign’s theme of political hope that actually refer to the hope Christians have in Christ. “At this moment, in this election, we must pledge once more to march into the future. Let us keep that promise, that American promise, and in the words of scripture hold firmly, without wavering, to the hope that we confess.” Obama twists the Bible in an attempt to lend credibility to his agenda, even though he denies the Bible and it’s clear moral teachings. Obama is even derisive of faithful African American pastors who treat the Bible with respect. For Obama, his opinion, not the scripture, is the final authority. Jesus prayed to His Father, “Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.” Who are you going to believe, Jesus or Obama? VIDEO TRANSCRIPT: Reason #3 Barack Obama Is Not A Christian Reason #3: Obama Supports Homosexuality I’m Rev. Don Hamer on behalf of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission with reason number 3 why Barack Obama, who claims to be a Christian, is not a Christian. Barack Obama is an unabashed supporter of special privileges for homosexuals, a stand that flies in the face of the biblical prohibition on homosexual sodomy. In the sermon on the mount, Jesus affirmed that every “jot and tittle” of the Bible is true, including the parts that condemn homosexuality.In an interview with the homosexual publication, the Advocate, Obama attacked faithful black pastors who faithfully proclaim what the Bible says about homosexuality. “…most African-American churches are still fairly traditional in the interpretations of Scripture. And so from the pulpit or in sermons you still hear homophobic attitudes expressed.” However, Obama lavished praise on his controversial former pastor and mentor, Jeremiah Wright, for being “very good on gay and lesbian issues.” Obama’s former church, Trinity United Church of Christ voted recently to approve of homosexual marriage. Obama dismissed as “obscure,” the clear and definitive teaching of the Apostle Paul in Romans 1 that calls homosexual acts “indecent” and “perverse.” Obama has also promised to overturn the Federal Defense of Marriage Act and promised to reverse the “don’t ask, don’t tell policy regarding homosexuality in the US military. When it comes to homosexuality, Obama opposes the traditional, biblical and historic standards of the Christian faith. Who are you going to believe, God and his Word or Barack Obama? VIDEO TRANSCRIPT: Reason #4 Barack Obama Is Not A Christian Reason #4: Obama Supports Abortion I’m Rev. Don Hamer on behalf of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission with reason number 4 why Barack Obama, who claims to be a Christian, is not a Christian by any biblical or historic standard. Appearing before a recent meeting of Planned Parenthood, the largest abortion provider in America, Obama proudly said… “I have consistently had a 100% pro-choice rating with Planned Parenthood and NARAL Pro-Choice America.” Obama says, “The first thing I'd do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act.” This act would stop states from restricting abortions of any kind, even partial birth abortion. Throughout the history of the church, Christians have opposed abortion because they believe that life begins at conception. Abortion is as an attack on the innocent human life of a baby who is made in the image of God. Obama recently said at a Forum hosted by Pastor Rick Warren that to know when a baby ought to have human rights it is “above his pay grade,” but he is very clear that a baby can be killed anytime, even after it is born. On four separate occasions Obama has voted against bills that prevented the killing of infants that are born alive, having survived an attempted abortion. Who are you going to follow, God and his Word or Barack Obama? VIDEO TRANSCRIPT: Reason #5 Barack Obama Is Not A Christian Reason #5: Obama Affirms Muslim Prayer Hello, I am Rev. Don Hamer for the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission with reason number 5, why Barack Obama, who claims to be a Christian, is not a Christian by any biblical or historic or standard. In a New York Times interview in 2007, entitled Obama, A man of the World, Obama fondly recalled the Islamic evening call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.” According to the article, “Obama went on to recite its opening lines with a perfect Arabic accent: “Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme! I witness that there is no god but Allah! I witness that there is no god but Allah! I witness that Muhammad is his prophet!” The article said this would “give any one living Alabama a heart attack.” Christians believe that Jesus Christ is God’s True Prophet, the full and final revelation of God. No true Christian can say the Muslim call to prayer is a “pretty sound” because it is a direct challenge to the truthfulness of Jesus Christ as the Word of God made flesh. Mohammad denied that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. The Muslim call to prayer affirms that Mohammad is God’s prophet. Jesus said, “For this cause I was born, and for this cause I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice." John 18:37 NKJV Who are you going to believe, Jesus or Obama? VIDEO TRANSCRIPT: Reason #6 Barack Obama Is Not A Christian Reason #6: Obama is Associated with Black Liberation Theology Hello, I am Rev. Don Hamer, on behalf of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission, with reason number 6 why Barack Obama, who claims to be a Christian, is not a Christian by any historic or biblical standard. For 20 years Barack Obama was a member of a Trinity United Church of Christ, one of the most radical “Afro-centric” churches in America, lead by Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Rev. Wright is a self described Black Liberation theologian who, according to Obama, was his spiritual mentor. Rev. Wright railed against the United States after the attacks of September 11th saying, “Not God bless America, God D*** America!” Wright preached that 9/11 was God’s “payback” to the United States for “ignoring black concerns.” Wright even said that HIV/AIDS (HIV / AIDS Victims 2) is a plot, orchestrated by the U.S. government, to kill blacks. Obama initially defended Wright, but then resigned from the church only after Wright’s radical views became a political liability. Black Liberation theology is from the 1970s and is based upon Marxism, socialism and class warfare. Although discredited decades ago, it still lives on at Obama’s home church. According to Black Liberation Theologian, James Cone, racial identity trumps the fact that he is a Christian. "The fact that I am Black is my ultimate reality… it is impossible for me to surrender this basic reality for a ‘higher, more universal’ reality.” “Black theology knows no authority more binding than the experience of oppression itself. This alone must be the ultimate authority in religious matters.” Black liberation theology declares that whites are essentially evil and are to be viewed as the enemy. "Whiteness as revealed in the history of America, is the expression of what is wrong with man. It is a symbol of man’s depravity… the coming of Christ means… destroying the white devil in us… in white racist society, Christian obedience can only mean being obedient to blackness, it’s glorification and exaltation… all white churches (are) anti-Christian in their essence." The fact is, there is a mixture of good and evil in every person and in every race. All have sinned and fall short of God’s glory. Jesus rejected race based theology. The Jews and the Samaritans of Christ’s day despised each other and even had rival places of worship, but Jesus said to a Samaritan woman. “The hour is coming and now is when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship him.” John 4:23 True worship, according to Jesus, transcends a person’s race. By creation, all mankind share one blood. In redemption, all who believe, from any race, are saved by Christ. In heaven there will people of every tongue, tribe, people and nation in heaven who have been saved by God’s grace in Jesus Christ. Who are you going to believe, Jesus or Obama’s black liberation theology? VIDEO TRANSCRIPT: Reason #7 Barack Obama Is Not A Christian Reason #7: Obama Has No Bona Fide Christian Testimony Hello, I am Rev. Don Hamer on behalf of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission with reason number 7, why Barack Obama, who claims to be a Christian, is not a Christian by any biblical or historic standard. By Obama’s own account of his essential elements of true biblical conversion are lacking, namely, conviction of sin, repentance and faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior of the world. When asked if he believed in sin, Obama said “Yes.” But when asked to define it, Obama said sin is, “Being out of alignment with my values.” Obama said he feels most aligned spiritually “when I’m being true to myself.” According to the Bible, when man sins, he sins against a Holy God in the violation of God’s holy law. Sin is not based on any man’s standards. Righteousness is obedience to God and his word. Obama is offended by the notion that all people need Christ in order to be saved. “The difficult thing about… Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize... There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they're going to hell.” So, if Jesus is not a Savior who rescues from hell, then who is Jesus to Obama? “Jesus is an historical figure for me, and he’s also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher.” This is not the testimony of a true Christian. For Obama, Jesus is merely a historical figure not the risen and living Lord. For Obama, Jesus is merely “a” bridge in the “Christian faith,” not the only bridge for all mankind. For Obama, Jesus is a means to some vague “higher” thing. To the Christian, knowing and experiencing Christ is the highest attainment of the Christian life. Obama venerates doubt, which is contrary to the assurance of eternal salvation and truth which Christ gives his people. Asked if he was “born again,” Obama answered, “Yeah … [but] I retain… a suspicion of dogma… I think that religion at it's best comes with a big dose of doubt… I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die.” Asked to describe the day he was converted Obama denies that there was any kind of supernatural enlightenment or an epiphany or a specific moment when he finally “got it.” “I think it was just a moment to certify or publicly affirm a growing faith in me.” Obama’s testimony does not have the marks of a bona fide biblical conversion. Jesus gives his assurance that “He who believes on me has everlasting life,” and “I go to prepare a place for you!” When asked where he finds inspiration, Obama does not mention a relationship with Christ. He does mentions a lot of things church, but not Jesus. When asked who was his role model he mentions Gandi. “Gandhi is a great example of a profoundly spiritual man who acted and risked everything on behalf of those values but never slipped into intolerance or dogma. He seemed to always maintain an air of doubt about him.” No mention of Christ. Without the public admission that you are lost in sin and that you have turned from your sin and put your faith in Christ and his shed blood as the only remedy for sin, you are not truly converted. Who are you going to believe, God and his Word or Obama?
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#72. To: A K A Stone (#68)
I showed you the principle that guides the hight court and empowers them to be the final say of what the U.S. Constitution is there for and interpret what it says. If you can't understand what you learn in an American Government 101 level course, I can't help you. It is what the SCOTUS says in various decisions regarding the First Amendment that defines what it says. You are essentially asking me to pull up case law from that page I supplied and to write a paper complete with citation from these decisions. What governs what the First Amendment means is in that case law. Not in other unrelated parts of the U.S. Constitution. Do your own work here. I am right regarding the interpretation of the First Amendment by the SCOTUS because I studied this at the University of Oregon, and have kept up with this topic of legal decision regarding this part of the U.S. Constitution over the years. If you can't understand where the interpretation of the First Amendment was formed and don't access them to verify or rebut what I say, I am not going to waste any more time trying to educate you.
Mike your position is that the supreme court can say whatever they want and that is what the constitution means. No No No Mike. The dictionary is what tells you what the constitution means. Mike the constitution isn't long. Give me the words from the constitution that make your case. If you can't do that then that is tantamount to an admission that the Supreme Court in many cases acts as usurpers.
I am not Christian, or Islamic, but even I use the adjective 'Holy' as those believers of these two works of scripture use them out of respect. So what?
You're wrong. Holy has a meaning. The Bible is Holy. Something evil like the Koran cannot be holy. Come on Mike you are cracking me up.
Raising taxes on, cigarettes is not the same as raising taxes on a person no matter what their income.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
Obama said that NO ONE would receive a tax increase unless they made over 250k. That is not accurate. The cigarette taxes was raised. Also Obama is defending his nazi health care bill before courts now as a tax. The question was originally if Obama was a liar. He is. Do you deny that? Here is another reason he is a liar. Like I just said he is saying his health care law is a tax. That would be a tax increase too. Another lie. Then there is this angle. During debate Obama said the health care penalty was not a tax. Now he defends it in court as being a tax. That makes him a liar too. He lies constantly, don't deny it or you will damage your reputation.
The words that make my case is in the legal decisions on that page I linked earlier regarding case law defining what the First Amendment means and why. You can't see that what I said involves legal decisions by the SCOTUS. That is your problem, not mine. All I see here is cognitive dissonance and a refusal to see the obvious. To write up a post citing sections of these decisions involved an awful lot of work. There is nothing simple about it. We are talking about the principle of religious freedom and what the Supreme Court has ruled to give guidance to other branches of government and lower courts by hearing cases pertaining to religious freedom and voting for ruling regarding this topic. If you can't see the ridiculousness and ignorance in your request, I can't help you.
Mike that isn't from the constitution either. I want the words from the constitution that the judges used to make their decision. Mike the decisions I mentioned are based on lies. Truth is that I am right and you are wrong. You can't site the constitution to make your case, because it doesn't. Quit dancing around the issue and answer the simple question. You are starting to waste my precious time.
Holy is an adjective. It is used on editions of both the Koran and Bible. Au contraire, you crack me up. You are making Forrest Gump look like a genius here.
THe Koran is from satan. He is a liar. He can call it holy all he wants to but that doesn't make it so. Tom Hanks is an asshole by the way. Fuck him.
Then read the First Amendment if you want to know what they use to write rulings about it. It is short, sweet, and easy to access.
Tom Hanks? What the fuck you smoking?
The Muslims I met in Egypt had respect for the Bible, Koran, and the Torah as well as reverence for Jesus. Certainly they were not the enemy of Christianity. I suppose if you want to make yourself the enemy of Islam, that's your business.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
Oh, the movie, hey Stone; I read the book before seeing the movie. Hanks is an actor, not the author of the novel.
And I have a Muslim friend who's wife is Jewish up there on Portland, OR. Both love and respect one another and run a major food both at Portland Saturday market. I too went to Egypt and what you say is true. On the whole, the Egyptians I met are very very well educated on the writings of the Bible, Koran and Torah and have respect for religions not their own. And I never heard anyone there say anything but reverent things regarding Christ. If Stone ever bothers to get out and see the world he's in for a shock. People who believe exactly as he believes complete with intolerance, hatred and xenophobia are a small minority in the world. Something of which I am profoundly grateful.
The tax on cigarettes is an excise tax. Here is the definition: A Federal or state tax imposed on the manufacture and distribution of certain non-essential consumer goods. No one has received a tax increase, no matter what their income, because the tax on cigarettes has gone up.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
Lucy the tax on cigarettes went up. Obama said no taxes on anyone making over 250k. That was a blatant lie. He said not any kind of tax increase. You lose.
Also noted you didn't address my other points and questions.
Way to go.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
I want to steal that line sometime in the future, okay?
No kidding!
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
Be my guest.
An excise tax is not an income tax, nor a tax on a person (head tax). In this case it is a tax on cigarettes. I am praying that God reveals to you the difference between a person and a cigarette.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
The question was originally if Obama was a liar. He is. Do you deny that? Here is another reason he is a liar. Like I just said he is saying his health care law is a tax. That would be a tax increase too. Another lie. Then there is this angle. During debate Obama said the health care penalty was not a tax. Now he defends it in court as being a tax. That makes him a liar too. He lies constantly, don't deny it or you will damage your reputation. Obama has a Nazi health care bill? I do believe that is a lie, Stone. A law may be passed that creates a tax, but a law is not a tax. Another lie? I'll address the other issue after you've dealt with the above.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16Ye shall know them by their fruits.
So a person doesn't pay the tax. That is stupid. Who pays the tax A lizard? You are tempting to make me start calling you lucymoron or something. Quit being dumb on purpose.
I say nazi because it was state sponsored mass murder. In Obamas nazi health care bill he funds mass murder of defenseless babies. You democrats sure are screwed up.
Look at how the US government has consistently propped up one regime after another. Look at the scope of US meddling. The fruits are rotten after trillions of dollars spent. Now, America is ravaged with debt while the rest of the world is picking up and don't want much from the US anymore.
Buckeroo I support the Monroe Doctrine.
Galatians 5:14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." Romans 2:14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.) 16 This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares. Matthew 25:31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. 34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’ 37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ 40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ 41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ 44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ 45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ 46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.” If love fulfills the whole of the law, then how can there be any other requirement for salvation? Seems to me there are at least two ways to salvation in the Bible, acceptance of Jesus as Savior, and loving our fellow man, because as the above story illustrates, when we are loving to others we are loving Jesus.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
A human pays the tax if he chooses to purchase the product that is taxed. The tax is attached to the product and can easily be avoided. You are tempting to make me start calling you lucymoron or something. Quit being dumb on purpose. I'm not being dumb, I'm being accurate; and feel free to call me anything you wish. I'm confident that what ever that turns out to be you will do it to the glory of God as the Bible teaches.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
A thoughtful post you have. What version of the Bible is that you are using. I noticed it had some stuff added as compared to King James version. As to love fulfilling the whole of the law. Has any of us never said a hateful word? I doubt it. We are saved by grace not by things we do that are "good". I do think that people who haven't heard the Bible can get salvation as verse 14 from Chapter 2 of Romans suggests. But once you have been exposed I think things like accepting Christ are required. 14For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)
Ok. I shouldn't have said that. You're usually wrong but you're also usually polite.
Obama said no form of tax increase
New International Version, 2010 I'm with Billy Graham on the who does or does not get in issue.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
I'm with the Jesus on that one.
I don't use the NIV. It is not accurate and calls Jesus a sinner.
So are Billy and I.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
Billy Graham is a false teacher. He teaches that Jesus isn't the only way.
False teacher Billy Graham also teaches there is no hell if I remember correctly.
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#73. To: Ferret Mike (#72)
#74. To: A K A Stone (#71)
"But as it stands now we have a man calling the Koran "holy". That isn't biblical or accurate."
#75. To: Ferret Mike (#74)
So what?
#76. To: A K A Stone (#39)
Mike be honest. Obama said he didn't raise taxes on anyone making over 250,000. He has Mike. I will name just one of them. Cigarettes. There are I think 7 or 8 other times.
#77. To: lucysmom (#76)
Raising taxes on, cigarettes is not the same as raising taxes on a person no matter what their income.
#78. To: A K A Stone (#73)
#79. To: Ferret Mike (#78)
#80. To: A K A Stone (#75)
#81. To: Ferret Mike (#80)
It is used on editions of both the Koran and Bible.
#82. To: A K A Stone (#79)
"I want the words from the constitution that the judges used to make their decision."
#83. To: A K A Stone (#81)
#84. To: A K A Stone (#47)
Christianity and Islam are wholly incompatible and at odds. They are enemies. As in Good and evil being enemies. Christianity being good of course.
#85. To: A K A Stone (#81)
#86. To: lucysmom (#84)
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#87. To: A K A Stone (#77)
Obama said that NO ONE would receive a tax increase unless they made over 250k. That is not accurate. The cigarette taxes was raised.
#88. To: lucysmom (#87)
#89. To: lucysmom (#87)
#90. To: A K A Stone (#81)
Tom Hanks is an asshole by the way. Fuck him.
#91. To: Ferret Mike (#80)
You are making Forrest Gump look like a genius here.
#92. To: Ferret Mike (#86)
People who believe exactly as he believes complete with intolerance, hatred and xenophobia are a small minority in the world. Something of which I am profoundly grateful.
#93. To: Fred Mertz (#91)
#94. To: A K A Stone (#88)
Obama said no taxes on anyone making over 250k. That was a blatant lie. He said not any kind of tax increase.
#95. To: A K A Stone (#89)
Also Obama is defending his nazi health care bill before courts now as a tax.
#96. To: lucysmom (#92)
#97. To: lucysmom (#94)
An excise tax is not an income tax, nor a tax on a person
#98. To: lucysmom (#95)
Obama has a Nazi health care bill? I do believe that is a lie, Stone.
#99. To: A K A Stone (#96)
Ye shall know them by their fruits.
#100. To: Kafir (#99)
Look at how the US government has consistently propped up one regime after another. Look at the scope of US meddling. The fruits are rotten after trillions of dollars spent.
#101. To: A K A Stone (#96)
#102. To: A K A Stone (#97)
So a person doesn't pay the tax. That is stupid. Who pays the tax A lizard?
#103. To: lucysmom (#101)
If love fulfills the whole of the law, then how can there be any other requirement for salvation? Seems to me there are at least two ways to salvation in the Bible, acceptance of Jesus as Savior, and loving our fellow man, because as the above story illustrates, when we are loving to others we are loving Jesus.
#104. To: lucysmom (#102)
You are tempting to make me start calling you lucymoron or something. Quit being dumb on purpose.
#105. To: lucysmom (#102)
#106. To: A K A Stone (#103)
#107. To: lucysmom (#106)
I'm with Billy Graham on the who does or does not get in issue.
#108. To: lucysmom (#106)
#109. To: A K A Stone (#107)
I'm with the Jesus on that one.
#110. To: lucysmom (#109)
#111. To: lucysmom (#109)
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