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The Water Cooler Title: Donald Rumsfeld to Diane Sawyer: 'It's Possible' Troop Decisions Were a Mistake in Iraq More than four years after leaving public life, former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld continues to believe the war in Iraq was worth the effort, and has no apologies for his decision-making in leading the campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq. In an exclusive interview with ABC's Diane Sawyer, Rumsfeld concedes that "it's possible" that decisions on how many troops to send into Iraq marked the biggest mistake of the war. "In a war, many things cost lives," Rumsfeld told Sawyer. Pressed on the fact that President Bush has written that cutting troop levels in Iraq was "the most important failure in the execution of the war," Rumsfeld called that "interesting." "I don't have enough confidence to say that that's right. I think that it's possible. We had [an] enormous number of troops ready to go in. They had -- we had off-ramps, if they weren't needed." "It's hard to know," Rumsfeld continued. "You know, the path you didn't take is always smoother." The interview -- Rumsfeld's first for television since 2006 -- is tied to the publication of his memoir, "Known and Unknown," this week. The book spans a half century that took Rumsfeld, now 78, from a back bench as a 30-year-old member of Congress to success in the private and public sectors. He served Republican presidents from Richard Nixon to George W. Bush, including a stint as President Gerald Ford's chief of staff. Remarkably, he would become both the youngest and oldest man to have served as secretary of defense -- tenures separated by 24 years. The interview covers the range of Rumsfeld's tenure as Bush's secretary of defense, including harsh interrogation tactics he authorized for use against suspected terrorists, and the scandal at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq that Rumsfeld himself has described as the low point of his time at the Pentagon. Reminded in the interview that another former Defense secretary, Robert McNamara, famously said of Vietnam years after the war that "we were wrong, terribly wrong," Rumsfeld rejected the comparison. "That's not the case with Iraq. That's not the case with Iraq," he said. "I think the world's a better place with Saddam Hussein gone and with the Taliban gone and the al Qaeda out of Afghanistan." Rumsfeld describes an "incremental" move toward war with Iraq under President Bush, rather than a clear inflection point. He told Sawyer that while the president asked him to update war plans against Iraq shortly after the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the president never asked him if it was the "right decision." Inside the Bush administration, Rumsfeld said, "I didn't hear people feeling strongly that he should or shouldn't." Asked if he turned the conversation inside the administration to Iraq in the wake of 9/11, Rumsfeld said "absolutely not." "The fact of the matter is, it was raised by somebody up at Camp David [shortly after 9/11] and the president said, 'I don't wanna get into it,'" Rumsfeld said. Iraq was raised at the Camp David meeting by Paul Wolfowitz, a deputy secretary of Defense who would later become an architect of the Iraq war. That mission changed, however, after Sept. 11, 2001 -- a day when he rushed through smoke-filled corridors inside the Pentagon to aid the wounded. He grabbed a mangled shard of the destroyed airliner that day from the lawn outside the Pentagon, a piece of twisted metal he has had mounted and keeps on display in his office in Washington. After 9/11, he told Sawyer, "I had to impose a sense of urgency into the department. ... This was the first war of the 21st century." He added: "There wasn't a guidebook or a map or some program that said, 'Here's how you do this.' We had to figure it out." Rumsfeld had frank assessments of several of his colleagues and contemporaries. Asked if he admired President George H.W. Bush -- a Republican president he didn't serve under -- Rumsfeld was curt. "No. No," Rumsfeld said. "No, I was kind of disappointed in him. ... He decided he wanted to leave people with the impression that he didn't want to go to the CIA [in the Ford administration]. And that someone made him go there. And it was probably Rumsfeld or something." His relationship and sometime rivalry with the first President Bush, he said, left him "amazed" that his son asked him to return to Pentagon post he had left 24 years earlier. Rumsfeld dismissed the criticism he got from a collection of retired military leaders in 2006, as the war effort in Iraq was going poorly. The former officials took the extraordinary step of calling for Rumsfeld's resignation, citing what some viewed as an imperious leadership style as well as missteps in leading the Iraq war. "It was a group of people who were disgruntled. And I've never worked with most of them. Fact, I'd not met some of them," Rumsfeld said. Rumsfeld offered no apologies for his notoriously brusque management style, saying he would not accept criticism for asking "tough questions." "Oh, the poor people, I terrified them. My goodness, come on," Rumsfeld said. "These are people with stars on their shoulders. They're people who are patriots. They're people who've fought battles. And they weren't terrified or intimidated." He expressed disappointment that Bush also felt he was sometimes too abrupt with military leaders and members of his staff. "You know, it's too bad," Rumsfeld said. "He believed -- apparently believed -- the mythology that was perpetrated in the press." Rumsfeld's book also sheds light on personal struggles that sometimes came at moments of great professional challenges. His son, Nick, was battling drug addiction around the time of 9/11 and had gone missing earlier that summer. Just two weeks after the terrorist attacks, Rumsfeld writes, Bush offered his defense secretary comfort on the subject of his son, during a private meeting in the Oval Office that brought Rumsfeld to tears. "He reached out and said, you know, 'Tell me about it,' " he said. "And you start talking about it. And it's hard to talk about it, because it's -- a wonderful human being, that you love. And you want it to be better. And he is, God bless him." The book takes its title from a famous news conference where Rumsfeld lectured the press about the limits of intelligence gathering, musing aloud about "known knowns," "known unknowns," and "unknown unknowns." Though the locution has been used to mock him at times, Rumsfeld said the phrases are an apt summation of his career and experiences. "It is a thread that runs through my public service," he said, "that there are things we don't know we don't know. And nobody knows them." "World News with Diane Sawyer" will have more of Sawyer's exclusive interview with Rumsfeld tomorrow on "World News" and on ABCNews.com
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