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Title: GOP WTF Parade On Health Care
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URL Source: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2 ... -GOP-WTF-Parade-on-health-care
Published: Feb 5, 2011
Author: David Waldman
Post Date: 2011-02-05 11:16:15 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 6257
Comments: 14

Did you ever get the feeling that most of the freshman Republicans in Congress, you know, don't know what the #*%@ they're talking about when it comes to health care?

Not just idiots who don't know that it makes actual goddamn sense to make sure every family can afford a family doctor, but real prize-winning jerk-asses who can't wait to get in your face about the government helping pay for your health care, but genuinely don't know (because they never bothered to find out) that the government is paying for theirs? Or who don't know that, yeah, in the real world, people sometimes have to go without insurance. Even if it might mean they'll lose everything if they get sick.

Andy Harris (R-MD-01), anyone?

A conservative Maryland physician elected to Congress on an anti-Obamacare platform surprised fellow freshmen at a Monday orientation session by demanding to know why his government-subsidized health care plan takes a month to kick in.

Republican Andy Harris ... reacted incredulously when informed that federal law mandated that his government-subsidized health care policy would take effect on Feb. 1 51; 28 days after his Jan. 3rd swearing-in.

"He stood up and asked the two ladies who were answering questions why it had to take so long, what he would do without 28 days of health care" ... "Harris then asked if he could purchase insurance from the government to cover the gap," added the aide, who was struck by the similarity to Harris’s request and the public option he denounced as a gateway to socialized medicine.

Twenty-eight days? Pobrecito! And, how precious! He wanted government insurance to cover the gap.

FAIL.

Michael Grimm (R-NY-13)?

In one of his first interviews since being sworn in, Grimm brushed off the suggestion that he was being hypocritical for accepting government-provided health insurance while calling for the repeal of Pres. Obama's health care reform.

"What am I, not supposed to have health care?" Grimm told the New York Daily News (the article hasn't appeared online, only in print). "It's practicality. I'm not going to become a burden for the state because I don't have health care and, God forbid I get into an accident and I can't afford the operation...That can happen to anyone."

"That can happen to anyone."

Yeah. Happy birthday, Sherlock!

Sure would hate to see you become a burden for the state because you don't have health care. The state oughta see if maybe something can be done about getting you some coverage, don't you think? So you don't become a burden to it?

O. M. F. G.

Bob Hurt (R-VA-05)?

HURT: I’ll support the repeal. Okay, what else?

TP: After you vote to repeal health care, will you also reject government-sponsored, government-subsidized health care given to members of Congress?

HURT: Uhm, well obviously we’ve got — I’ve got a health insurance policy that I pay for through the government so I don’t really51;

TP: Well there’s $700 a month in taxpayer money on average that goes to a member of Congress’s health care plan given by you know the taxpayer.

HURT: It’s a policy that’s issued by Anthem and it’s a policy that any51; it’s open to the public.

TP: But my tax dollars and everyone’s tax dollars subsidize your plan as a member of Congress. And all of your staff members. You’ve got what, thirty members of your staff? Do you think they should have government-sponsored health care if you’re going to repeal it for everyone else?

HURT: If you’re going to pay members of Congress anything, if they’re going to have a salary and they’re going to have benefits, like so many people who are employed do, then I think it’s not unreasonable to offer those benefits. So I support that.

Government help pay for your insurance? Bite me, peon! Government help pay for my insurance? Why, yes, don't mind if I do. Thanks!

To this distinguished parade of dingbats, we now add Ann Marie Buerkle (R-NY-25):

Buerkle, who voted to repeal the health care reform act, was twice asked about the health insurance she receives as a government employee. At first she said she couldn’t understand why people were so interested in her health insurance, and that taxpayers didn’t pay anything for it. She later corrected herself after being handed a note from a staffer. Like most employees, she pays for a portion of her insurance and her employer, the government, pays the rest, she said.

Gosh, I can't understand why you're all so interested in that! But she confidently tells them all to go screw, because the taxpayers don't pay anything for it. So bite me!

Oh, I'm being told that you actually do pay for it. Golly. Heh heh! Hey, look over there! Socialism!

Had to be told by a staffer, this one did. Andy Harris at least paid attention at the orientation. This one -- along with Bob Hurt -- slept through it, apparently. Health care is magically super cheap for Members of Congress! On account of our being so smart smug, you see.

These people have no connection to reality. How many of them bragged on themselves as being "small business owners" and the like while on the campaign trail, I wonder? Small business owners who forget that employers pay a giant chunk of the cost of employee health insurance premiums, somehow?

Just one of many reasons why you never send a Republican to do a normal human being's job.

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#1. To: go65 (#0)

Not just idiots who don't know that it makes actual goddamn sense to make sure every family can afford a family doctor...

LOL!! Well, of course it does. When I was a small child and someone in the family became ill, my mother would call the family doctor and he would come to our house and treat us. My mother would pay the doctor for his services before he left. He was a very affluent man in our society.

Why is this not so today?

Answer- government meddling and the smug, stupid socialist dupes, who are so obsessed with having some government nanny, that they are destroying our society.

To all of the socialist dupes I say get the hell out of the way and let those who are orders of magnitude more intelligent than you get us back to saner times.

eskimo  posted on  2011-02-05   13:47:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: eskimo (#1)

Why is this not so today?

Answer- government meddling and the smug, stupid socialist dupes, who are so obsessed with having some government nanny, that they are destroying our society.

Ask your physician how much he spends on malpractice insurance.

Then you can decide whether you want the government meddling in the market by limiting malpractice lawsuits, or whether you believe in the free market.

Oh, and ask yourself if you would rather have the treatment options available to you in the 1950's, or the options available today. If folks would agree to stop using things like chemo, transplants, long-term medical therapies, gene therapy, etc. that weren't available in the 1950's we could certainly cut medical spending in this country. I guess the problem is that folks are being selfish by wanting to live longer, right?

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-05   14:36:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: go65 (#2)

by limiting malpractice lawsuits, or whether you believe in the free market.

malpractice doesn't exactly figure into the free market.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-05   14:40:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#3)

malpractice doesn't exactly figure into the free market.

Accountability is not part of a Free Market? That is what malpractice is.

war  posted on  2011-02-05   14:49:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: war (#4)

Frivolous lawsuits can be curbed.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-05   14:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#5)

Frivolous lawsuits can be curbed.

Most states now have some sort of system of pre-trial arbitration in which the two sides present their evidence and, possibly a witness, usually the plaintiff.

Two arbitrators, usually both Tort litigators, decide the merits, the liability and, if merited, what a plaintiff can expect to r receive as an award.

There has been so much Tort reform done at the state level over the past dozen years that it's rare that the "stupid" case makes it to trial any more.

I have a buddy who does contingency personal injury over in Jersey and now only takes cases in which there is serious debilitation. He won't take basic slip and falls and the like because the change to the liability rules have reduced payouts in those cases.

Medical malpractice is something else. The biggest cost in medical malpractice isn't the injury but the litigation. You need highly trained, thus expensive, lawyers to handle the cases/ Most MM layers now need to know as much as a doctor does.

war  posted on  2011-02-05   15:11:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: go65 (#2)

Oh, and ask yourself if you would rather have the treatment options available to you in the 1950's, or the options available today. If folks would agree to stop using things like chemo, transplants, long-term medical therapies, gene therapy, etc. that weren't available in the 1950's we could certainly cut medical spending in this country. I guess the problem is that folks are being selfish by wanting to live longer, right?

LOL!! The advances in medicine from the late 1800s to 1950 were astounding yet the care by the family doctor changed little. The greed of politicians and lawyers sanctioned by meddling of a corrupt government entity brought to its present size by sniveling, socialist slugs in search of a nanny, destroyed the profession and much of our society.

eskimo  posted on  2011-02-05   15:11:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: war (#6)

Fuck arbitration.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-05   15:12:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone (#8) (Edited)

Your right to a civil remedy is protected under the US Constitution. And arbitration has markedly reduced awards.

I know of a State wherein the typical award for a particular injury under particular circumstances once averaged around $600K. Insurance companies began rebelling and would refuse to "settle out of court" and would force these non litigating personal injury lawyers into the court room. The Tort laws were revamped, and, since around 2007, and due to arbitration, the award is now around 1/3 of that.

war  posted on  2011-02-05   15:19:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: eskimo (#7)

The advances in medicine from the late 1800s to 1950 were astounding yet the care by the family doctor changed little.

What astounding advances were made IN THAT PERIOD that they could not be dispensed by the family doctor?

My grandfather died of pneumonia in 1933. He gets it 3 years later and he's probably cured by his family doctor prescribing suflonamides.

war  posted on  2011-02-05   15:28:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: war (#10)

I believe I have told you previously that you are too stupid for me to converse with you. Your post here reminded me of that.

eskimo  posted on  2011-02-05   15:34:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: eskimo (#11) (Edited)

ROFLMAO...said the person who just stated that s/he also believes that medicine should be limited to what can be delivered in the home.

It was a simple question...which puts it right in your wheelhouse...

war  posted on  2011-02-05   16:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: go65 (#0)

Just one of many reasons why you never send a Republican to do a normal human being's job.

I can't believe that so many folks on this forum spend so much time arguing for or against one side of the two party cartel, like one is any better than the other.

We The People  posted on  2011-02-05   19:38:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#5)

Frivolous lawsuits can be curbed.

by who? Surely you don't want the government getting involved, right?

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-05   23:11:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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