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Elon Musk Delivers Stunning Remarks At Historic UK March (Tommy Robinson) Status: Not Logged In; Sign In United States News See other United States News Articles Title: Bachmann drops plan to cut veterans benefits Source: [None] URL Source: http://www.startribune.com/politics ... 3aPc:_Yyc:aUvca_bPiL_ec7PaP3iU Published: Feb 5, 2011 Author: Jeremy Herb Post Date: 2011-02-05 09:14:19 by go65 Keywords: None Views: 31003 Comments: 53 Rep. Michele Bachmann backed off a plan on Friday to cut $4.5 billion in benefits to veterans, following strong opposition from several veterans groups. The $4.5 billion proposed cut was one of dozens Bachmann suggested last month in a plan to slash $430 billion from the budget over five years. Those cuts included everything from replacing farm subsidies to privatizing the TSA, FAA and Amtrak. But since Bachmann released her proposal, veterans groups have voiced the loudest objections, causing Bachmann to drop them from her budget-cutting plans. “One point on my discussion list was a $4.5 billion proposal that would affect payments made to our veterans,” Bachmann said in a statement posted to her website. “That discussion point has received a lot of attention and I have decided to remove it from consideration. The problem of government spending must be solved, but not on the backs of our nation’s war heroes.” Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: All (#0) why does the Tea Party hate our veterans? Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse. go65  posted on  2011-02-05   9:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: go65 (#1) why does the Tea Party hate our veterans? They don't hate veterans, they just don't want the government collecting taxes at the point of a gun to support veterans. Other than that, they're happy to cheer veterans on 4th of July. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-05   9:27:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: go65, lucysmom (#1) Why do democrats hate babies so much that they usurp the constitution to make it color of law legal to execute babies without due process. Those are some sick mother fuckers. In fact I will go out on a limb and say every politician who supports baby murder should be put on trial for murder and attempted murder and accessory to murder then they should be executed. As in dead, not breathing no more. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-05   9:33:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: lucysmom (#2) You don't have to steal money from someone working and give the stolen money to veterans to love them. Stealing is stealing and people are getting tired of the democrats stealing their money and calling it taxes. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-05   9:34:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: A K A Stone (#4) You don't have to steal money from someone working and give the stolen money to veterans to love them. Stealing is stealing and people are getting tired of the democrats stealing their money and calling it taxes. Your thinking is perfectly in line with the Egyptian elite. Then 2004 brought a new cabinet which swiftly cut the top rate of tax from 42% to 20%, leaving multimillionaires paying exactly the same proportion of their income into government coffers as those on an annual salary of less than £500. Special economic zones were created, foreign investment reached dizzying heights ($13bn in 2008) and, in the past three years, economic growth has clocked in at a consistently high 7%. The minimum wage, incidentally, has remained fixed at less than £4 a month throughout. The global business community applauded Mubarak's rule as "bold", "impressive" and "prudent". http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=17279&Disp=1#C1 Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-05   10:36:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: lucysmom, A K A Stone (#5) Your thinking is perfectly in line with the Egyptian elite. You can't classify what Stone does as "thinking". He's not capable of it. Skip Intro  posted on  2011-02-05   10:39:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: A K A Stone (#4) You don't have to steal money from someone working and give the stolen money to veterans to love them. Do you believe that Veterans should get any or all of free schooling or technical training, free health care, subsidized mortgages and death and burial benefits? If so, how should they be paid for? war  posted on  2011-02-05   10:42:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: war (#7) Do you believe that Veterans should get any or all of free schooling or technical training, free health care, subsidized mortgages and death and burial benefits? If so, how should they be paid for? Seems to me that when some one is willing to step up and risk his life for the rest of us, then we owe him something in return. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-05   10:50:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: lucysmom (#8) Veterans should always go to the head of the line in my book. war  posted on  2011-02-05   10:54:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: A K A Stone (#3) Why do democrats hate babies so much that they usurp the constitution to make it color of law legal to execute babies without due process. Those are some sick mother fuckers. In fact I will go out on a limb and say every politician who supports baby murder should be put on trial for murder and attempted murder and accessory to murder then they should be executed. As in dead, not breathing no more. Apparently it's ok from the Conservative perspective to let babies die, so long as the mother dies with them, or if the mother lacks insurance. --- One hundred members of Congress (so far) have cosponsored a bill introduced by far right Congressman Joe Pitts (R-PA) called the "Protect Life Act." (See if yours is one of them below.) They want to "protect life" so much that they have written into the bill a new amendment that would override the requirement that emergency room doctors save every patient, regardless of status or ability to pay. The law would carve out an exception for pregnant women; doctors and hospitals will be allowed to let pregnant women die if interventions to save them will kill the fetus. Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse. go65  posted on  2011-02-05   10:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: lucysmom (#2) They don't hate veterans, they just don't want the government collecting taxes at the point of a gun to support veterans. Other than that, they're happy to cheer veterans on 4th of July. Correct, our veterans are those who fought for their country so those earning over $250k could get a tax break. Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse. go65  posted on  2011-02-05   10:55:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: go65 (#0) That discussion point has received a lot of attention and I have decided to remove it from consideration since she dropped her proposal, why do you think it is even an issue? Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’?? no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-02-05   10:57:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: go65 (#10) ...doctors and hospitals will be allowed to let pregnant women die if interventions to save them will kill the fetus. They hate women, especially mothers. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-05   10:58:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: lucysmom, a k a stone (#13) They hate women, especially mothers. it is wrong to steal from the productive to pay for the health care of the unproductive. Society is better off if those who can't pay for their own healthcare die, even if children die. Right Stone? Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse. go65  posted on  2011-02-05   11:00:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: no gnu taxes (#12) since she dropped her proposal, why do you think it is even an issue? it's another example of the deep seated hatred of our military of the American right-wing. Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse. go65  posted on  2011-02-05   11:00:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: go65 (#15) it's another example of the deep seated hatred of our military of the American right-wing. They love the military, just not the people in it. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-05   11:02:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: go65 (#15) it's another example of the deep seated hatred of our military of the American right-wing. She listened to the veteran's position and dropped the issue. What's your point? Everything should be on the table for consideration. Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’?? no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-02-05   11:03:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: go65 (#14) Society is better off if those who can't pay for their own healthcare die, even if children die. If it was god's will for them to live, they would be able to pay for their own health care. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-05   11:06:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: no gnu taxes (#17) What's your point? The point is that it was OK with her or she wouldn't have been willing to consider it. Did she consider a pay cut for herself and cronies? Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-05   11:08:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: lucysmom, no gnu taxes (#19) Did she consider a pay cut for herself and cronies? I'm sure Bachmann and her staff refuse their government subsidized health care in the name of cutting government spending, right? Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse. go65  posted on  2011-02-05   11:14:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: lucysmom (#19) The point is that it was OK with her or she wouldn't have been willing to consider it. It was ok with her to consider the matter. Every entity should have to justify any funds they receive. Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’?? no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-02-05   11:14:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: no gnu taxes (#21) It was ok with her to consider the matter. Every entity should have to justify any funds they receive. you seem to be oblivious to the fact that she PROPOSED CUTTING VETERANS BENEFITS! Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse. go65  posted on  2011-02-05   11:17:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: go65 (#22) “One point on my discussion list was a $4.5 billion proposal that would affect payments made to our veterans,” Bachmann said in a statement posted to her website. “That discussion point has received a lot of attention and I have decided to remove it from consideration. The problem of government spending must be solved, but not on the backs of our nation’s war heroes.” You seem oblivious to that fact. Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’?? no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-02-05   11:19:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #24. To: no gnu taxes (#21) It was ok with her to consider the matter. Every entity should have to justify any funds they receive. Jerry Brown announced that he was cutting the governor's office budget by 25% and eliminated the Office of the First Lady. Isn't that how a leader leads? "Never ask others to do that which you, yourself would not do." Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-05   11:26:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: go65 (#10) You are the one who supports the nigger president that has death panels. Yeah I said nigger, whoopie shit doo. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-05   11:29:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #26. To: lucysmom (#24) Neither you nor I know what Bachmann may have proposed or advocates concerning Congressional benefit cuts. If you really care, simply call her Congressional Office and ask her. Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’?? no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-02-05   11:29:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: lucysmom (#5) Your thinking is perfectly in line with the Egyptian elite. You think like a mass murderer. Kill all the babies. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-05   11:31:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: A K A Stone (#25) You are the one who supports the nigger president that has death panels. Yeah I said nigger, whoopie shit doo. Does that mean I can once again post articles referring to him as the "head NIGGER in charge"? I'll be like a kid in a candy store. Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’?? no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-02-05   11:32:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: A K A Stone (#25) You are the one who supports the nigger president that has death panels. It is the insurance companies that have death panels but never mind. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-05   11:33:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: no gnu taxes (#28) I just used the word out of frustration. It is just an insult hurled at the first class asshole president. We shouldn't make a habit out of it though. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-05   11:35:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #31. To: lucysmom (#29) Obama is for letting kids be born then starving them to death. The asswipe voted for it and you were never outraged by it. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-05   11:36:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: A K A Stone (#27) You think like a mass murderer. Kill all the babies. Really? I've been pregnant twice and gave birth to two babies - not that its any of your business. I just don't think I am smart enough to makes decisions for every woman in every situation. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-05   11:36:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: lucysmom (#32) I just don't think I am smart enough to makes decisions for every woman in every situation. I agree. If you choose to let women murder babies then you are part of the problem I guess if you are consistent then you don't think society should make decisions for Charles Manson. I mean who are we to say he was wrong. That is your logic. The logic of a democrat. That is why most people now realize that democrats/liberals have serious mental health issues. That is the ones who aren't downright evil. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-05   11:38:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: A K A Stone (#31) Obama is for letting kids be born then starving them to death. The asswipe voted for it and you were never outraged by it. So do Republicans. In fact, as far as they're concerned, the elderly can starve too. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-05   11:39:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #35. To: lucysmom (#34) So do Republicans. In fact, as far as they're concerned, the elderly can starve too. No one supports starving the elderly. Except evil places like hospice. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-05   11:40:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #36. To: lucysmom (#34) Republicans that support baby murder aren't real Republicans they are former democrat infiltrators. They deserve a traitors fate too. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-05   11:41:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #37. To: A K A Stone (#35) No one supports starving the elderly. Except evil places like hospice. A friend's father-in law died in a ambulance on the way from the hospital to a nursing home because his insurance provider decided he didn't need to be in the hospital and wouldn't pay for it. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-05   11:46:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #38. To: lucysmom (#37) A friend's father-in law died in a ambulance So you had a friend in need and didn't help. Are you heartless? A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-05   11:47:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #39. To: A K A Stone (#38) So you had a friend in need and didn't help. Are you heartless? Rather than bore you with the facts, suffice to say that you're comment is totally off base. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-05   11:54:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: lucysmom (#39) Your comment 34 was off base. You expect society to cough up the money to save your friend but you didn't pitch in yourself. I bet if you weren't expecting the government to do it then you and your friends and family would have helped out. But since the government has entrenched it in your head that they are the masters and the author of life and death. That you thought they would take care of it and they didn't and it is not the its purpose. Your belief seems to be that we should have our money confiscated by the govt before we even get it. Then that money should be sent to some bureaucrat and that they should send it to some other bureaucrat and that they should then send it back to some bureaucrat in the state and that your friend should have to go fill out some papers and forms to try and get some help. I'm here to tell you that that is a stupid philosophy. Let the people keep the money that they fucking earn and their generosity will shine. But no you liberals wont allow that. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-05   14:34:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #41. To: A K A Stone (#40) You expect society to cough up the money to save your friend but you didn't pitch in yourself. I bet if you weren't expecting the government to do it then you and your friends and family would have helped out. Not my friend, my friend's father in law. Who said anything about society picking up the bill? My friend took a 6-month unpaid leave of absence from her job to care for her father-in-law who lived 250 miles away in another state. After months of providing care 24/7, her sister-in-law, who lived 700 miles away in still another state, came to give her a break so she could go home for a couple of weeks. Your belief seems to be that we should have our money confiscated by the govt before we even get it. Then that money should be sent to some bureaucrat and that they should send it to some other bureaucrat and that they should then send it back to some bureaucrat in the state and that your friend should have to go fill out some papers and forms to try and get some help. I'm here to tell you that that is a stupid philosophy. Let the people keep the money that they fucking earn and their generosity will shine. But no you liberals wont allow that. Thank you for the pitch straight out of left field. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-05   17:24:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply         .       .       . Comments (42 - 53) not displayed. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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