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Title: Iceland did it the Right Way
Source: Newsvine
URL Source: http://truthlover.newsvine.com/_new ... -harmful-unless-you-were-a-wea
Published: Feb 3, 2011
Author: Bloomberg.com
Post Date: 2011-02-03 21:09:23 by jwpegler
Keywords: None
Views: 12868
Comments: 40

Iceland did not bail out the banks or the bank investors and its economy is thriving, proving that the the US-Irish model of bailing out the banks with taxpayer money was harmful unless you were a wealthy bank investor

On his second day as head of Iceland's third-largest bank, Arni Tomasson faced a crisis: The bank was out of cash. "Everybody was panicked -- depositors, creditors, banks around the world."

Unlike other nations, including the U.S. and Ireland, which injected billions of dollars of capital into their financial institutions to keep them afloat, Iceland placed its biggest lenders in receivership. It chose not to protect creditors of the country's banks, whose assets had ballooned to $209 billion, 11 times gross domestic product.With the economy projected to grow 3 percent this year, Iceland's decision to let the banks fail is looking smart -- and may prove to be a model for others.

Three banks had become the largest companies in Iceland, creating thousands of well-paid positions and controlling the top trade associations, says Oddsson, who oversaw the privatization of Iceland's state-owned lenders as prime minister. Their headquarters were the largest buildings in Reykjavik, dwarfing the parliament.

"Nobody wanted to listen when the party was on," says Oddsson, 63, now editor of Morgunbladid, one of the largest dailies in the country, with a circulation of about 50,000.

It was Oddsson's decision not to build up the central bank's foreign currency reserves from 2005 to 2008 that made a bailout impossible.

"They were collecting debt in such a fast pace, it would be stupid for us to build a mountain they could lean on if they failed," Oddsson says. "The creditors that were lending to the banks recklessly had to face the losses."

"Iceland did the right thing by making sure its payment systems continued to function while creditors, not the taxpayers, shouldered the losses of banks," says Nobel laureate Joseph Stiglitz, an economics professor at Columbia University in New York.

Van der Knaap, who has advised Iceland's bank resolution committees:. "Even Irish banks aren't too big to fail."

Today, Iceland is recovering. The three new banks had combined profit of $309 million in the first nine months of 2010. GDP grew for the first time in two years in the third quarter, by 1.2 percent, inflation is down to 1.8 percent and the cost of insuring government debt has tumbled 80 percent. Stores in Reykjavik were filled with Christmas shoppers in early December, and bank branches were crowded with customers.

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Japan refused to let it's banks fail in the early 90s (even though the Clinton administration urged them to do so). They have been in 20 year rolling recession.

The U.S. didn't let it's banks fail two years ago. Now we're stuck in a jobless "recovery".

There is an important lesson to be learned here. If something goes wrong -- don't allow the government to prolong the pain. Let the market fix it immediately and quickly.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-03   21:14:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Today, Iceland is recovering. The three new banks had combined profit of $309 million in the first nine months of 2010. GDP grew for the first time in two years in the third quarter, by 1.2 percent, inflation is down to 1.8 percent and the cost of insuring government debt has tumbled 80 percent. Stores in Reykjavik were filled with Christmas shoppers in early December, and bank branches were crowded with customers.

We had this same discussion a few weeks ago and you argued that Iceland wasn't recovering, I'm glad to see you realize you were wrong.

http://www.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=16702&Disp=4#C4

And you might want to read the article, Iceland's government was deeply involved in managing the banks failures. They didn't just stand back and let the financial system collapse.

go65  posted on  2011-02-03   21:20:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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And you might want to read the article, Iceland's government was deeply involved in managing the banks failures. They didn't just stand back and let the financial system collapse.

No kidding!

The country secured over $10 billion in loans from the IMF and other countries to stabilize its currency and financial sector, and to back government guarantees for foreign deposits in Icelandic banks. GDP fell 6.8% in 2009, and unemployment peaked at 9.4% in February 2009. GDP fell 3.4% in 2010. Since the collapse of Iceland's financial sector, government economic priorities have included: stabilizing the krona, reducing Iceland's high budget deficit, containing inflation, restructuring the financial sector, and diversifying the economy. Three new banks were established to take over the domestic assets of the collapsed banks. Two of them have foreign majority ownership, while the State holds a majority of the shares of the third. British and Dutch authorities have pressed claims totaling over $5 billion against Iceland to compensate their citizens for losses suffered on deposits held in the failed Icelandic bank, Landsbanki Islands. Iceland agreed to new terms with the UK and the Netherlands to compensate British and Dutch depositors, but the agreement must first be approved by the Icelandic President. Iceland began EU accession negotiations with the EU in July 2010, however, public support has dropped substantially because of concern about losing control over fishing resources and in reaction to measures taken by Brussels during the ongoing Eurozone crisis.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ic.html

Sorry for the cut and paste but I don't KNOW this stuff.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-04   0:56:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lucysmom, jwpegler (#9)

No kidding!

I like JW, but when facts get in the way of spin, he chooses spin.

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