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Title: Arctic Ice Extent Reaches Record January Low
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Capital Climate
URL Source: http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/ ... ice-extent-reaches-record.html
Published: Feb 3, 2011
Author: NSIDC
Post Date: 2011-02-03 09:02:49 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 25078
Comments: 44
Arctic sea ice extent averaged over January 2011 was 13.55 million square kilometers (5.23 million square miles). This was the lowest January ice extent recorded since satellite records began in 1979. It was 50,000 square kilometers (19,300 square miles) below the record low of 13.60 million square kilometers (5.25 million square miles), set in 2006, and 1.27 million square kilometers (490,000 square miles) below the 1979 to 2000 average. Ice extent in January 2011 remained unusually low in Hudson Bay, Hudson Strait (between southern Baffin Island and Labrador), and Davis Strait (between Baffin Island and Greenland). Normally, these areas freeze over by late November, but this year Hudson Bay did not completely freeze over until mid-January. The Labrador Sea remains largely ice-free.
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#1. To: go65, no gnu taxes (#0)
I see arctic was spelled correctly in this article................
Your level of discourse is apparent when all you have is comments on minor typos a week later.
I'm just ribbing you in the spelling error, we all make them. However your claims about arctic sensors did demonstrate a serious lack of knowledge.
My point remains. If you think there are Arctic sensors away from human populations in remote highland areas that give true readings of of land temperatures, then describe where they are and how they compare to the sensors in the coastal populated areas. The Grrenalnd Nuuk weather station temperature measurements are extrapolated out over hundreds of sqaure miles.
I gave you several examples. Now explain how the surface temperature record correlates with the satellite record if you believe surface temperatures are skewed by the urban heat island effect. Perhaps the satellites are located too close to stars?
well?
well? Both RSS and UAH show a cooling trend http://rankexploits.com/musings/2008/warming-on-11-year-hiatus-not-quite/
only if you cherry pick certain limited years.
First of all this does not use raw satellite data. The satellite data is massaged to fit the land data. Second, look at those trend lines. Do you really think starting at a winter low point in 1983 and stopping at a summer high point in 2010 represents an unbiased "trend"? What would the trend be if you started at the high point in 1984 and stopped at the low point in 2009?
when facts fail you, resort to "it's all a conspiracy" Look at the entire record instead of cherry picking dates. Do you not see the rising trend since 1970? (all part of the conspiracy?) You have boxed yourself into a corner. You claim the land record is skewed, but you can't explain how then it correlates with both the sea and satellite records except to claim "it's a conspiracy", and you cherry pick data when the complete data record contradicts your claim. You are a completely dishonest debater. You really need to rethink your approach here. If you had facts to support your argument, you wouldn't have to resort to these sorts of tactics.
So when cigarette companies presented data for decades showing cigarettes were not harmful, you dismissed it as all "kooky conspiracy" stuff?
Given the mountain of evidence from independent sources showing that they were wrong, and the flaws in their methods, the evidence dismissed itself. No Gnu, I'm sorry but I'm done with you for the day. You have been hung out to dry with your own data sources. Enjoy the afternoon.
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#2. To: Godwinson (#1)
#3. To: no gnu taxes (#2)
Your level of discourse is apparent when all you have is comments on minor typos a week later.
#5. To: go65 (#3)
However your claims about arctic sensors did demonstrate a serious lack of knowledge.
#15. To: no gnu taxes, godwinson (#5)
If you think there are Arctic sensors away from human populations in remote highland areas that give true readings of of land temperatures, then describe where they are and how they compare to the sensors in the coastal populated areas.
#18. To: (#15)
Now explain how the surface temperature record correlates with the satellite record if you believe surface temperatures are skewed by the urban heat island effect.
#22. To: go65 (#18)
Now explain how the surface temperature record correlates with the satellite record if you believe surface temperatures are skewed by the urban heat island effect.
#24. To: no gnu taxes, godwinson (#22)
Both RSS and UAH show a cooling trend
#26. To: go65 (#24)
#29. To: no gnu taxes, godwinson (#26)
First of all this does not use raw satellite data. The satellite data is massaged to fit the land data.
Do you really think starting at a winter low point in 1983 and stopping at a summer high point in 2010 represents an unbiased "trend"?
#34. To: go65 (#29)
#35. To: no gnu taxes (#34)
So when cigarette companies presented data for decades showing cigarettes were not harmful, you dismissed it as all "kooky conspiracy" stuff?
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