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Title: Arctic Ice Extent Reaches Record January Low
Source: Capital Climate
URL Source: http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/ ... ice-extent-reaches-record.html
Published: Feb 3, 2011
Author: NSIDC
Post Date: 2011-02-03 09:02:49 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 26239
Comments: 44

Arctic sea ice extent averaged over January 2011 was 13.55 million square kilometers (5.23 million square miles). This was the lowest January ice extent recorded since satellite records began in 1979. It was 50,000 square kilometers (19,300 square miles) below the record low of 13.60 million square kilometers (5.25 million square miles), set in 2006, and 1.27 million square kilometers (490,000 square miles) below the 1979 to 2000 average.

Ice extent in January 2011 remained unusually low in Hudson Bay, Hudson Strait (between southern Baffin Island and Labrador), and Davis Strait (between Baffin Island and Greenland). Normally, these areas freeze over by late November, but this year Hudson Bay did not completely freeze over until mid-January. The Labrador Sea remains largely ice-free.

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#1. To: go65, no gnu taxes (#0)

I see arctic was spelled correctly in this article................

Godwinson  posted on  2011-02-03   9:57:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Godwinson (#1)

Your level of discourse is apparent when all you have is comments on minor typos a week later.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-02-03   10:03:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: no gnu taxes (#2)

Your level of discourse is apparent when all you have is comments on minor typos a week later.

I'm just ribbing you in the spelling error, we all make them. However your claims about arctic sensors did demonstrate a serious lack of knowledge.

go65  posted on  2011-02-03   10:04:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: go65 (#3)

However your claims about arctic sensors did demonstrate a serious lack of knowledge.

My point remains. If you think there are Arctic sensors away from human populations in remote highland areas that give true readings of of land temperatures, then describe where they are and how they compare to the sensors in the coastal populated areas.

The Grrenalnd Nuuk weather station temperature measurements are extrapolated out over hundreds of sqaure miles.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-02-03   10:26:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: no gnu taxes, godwinson (#5)

If you think there are Arctic sensors away from human populations in remote highland areas that give true readings of of land temperatures, then describe where they are and how they compare to the sensors in the coastal populated areas.

I gave you several examples.

Now explain how the surface temperature record correlates with the satellite record if you believe surface temperatures are skewed by the urban heat island effect.

Perhaps the satellites are located too close to stars?

go65  posted on  2011-02-03   12:56:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: (#15)

Now explain how the surface temperature record correlates with the satellite record if you believe surface temperatures are skewed by the urban heat island effect.

well?

go65  posted on  2011-02-03   13:09:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: go65 (#18)

Now explain how the surface temperature record correlates with the satellite record if you believe surface temperatures are skewed by the urban heat island effect.

well?

Both RSS and UAH show a cooling trend

http://rankexploits.com/musings/2008/warming-on-11-year-hiatus-not-quite/

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-02-03   13:22:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: no gnu taxes, godwinson (#22)

Both RSS and UAH show a cooling trend

only if you cherry pick certain limited years.

go65  posted on  2011-02-03   13:27:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: no gnu taxes, godwinson (#24) (Edited)

Godwin, the above chart is the death blow to No Gnu's claims that the surface measurements are skewed, the surface line (blue) correlates almost exactly with the satellite records (green/red). The RSS measurements accurately reflect more rapid upper troposphere warming as predicted by climate scientists.

This uses his own data source against him.

Game, set, match.

You are toast NGT.

go65  posted on  2011-02-03   13:30:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: go65 (#25)

Look at this chart of actual data.

It's clear land based sensors are consistently higher than satellite based ones.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-02-03   13:33:44 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: no gnu taxes (#28)

It's clear land based sensors are consistently higher than satellite based ones.

there are actually discrepancies between the satellite records, UAH shows slightly less warming than RSS, but they both show warming, and the trends are both entirely consistent with the surface temp records as I noted above.

You've hit the end of the line in this line of arguing, time to find a new conspiracy theory.

go65  posted on  2011-02-03   13:36:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#31. To: no gnu taxes, godwinson (#30)

From one of NGT's favorite sites:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/01/03/rss-data-2010-not-the-warmest-year-in-satellite-record-but-a-close-second/

go65  posted on  2011-02-03 13:39:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: go65 (#30)

There are actually discrepancies between the satellite records, UAH shows slightly less warming than RSS, but they both show warming

No, RSS shows cooling and UAH shows an extremely small amount of warming (virtually a flat line).

trends are both entirely consistent with the surface temp records as I noted above.

The land based data is the only data with a definitive trend for increases.

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