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The Greatness of Charlie Kirk: An Eyewitness Account of His Life and Martyrdom Status: Not Logged In; Sign In United States News See other United States News Articles Title: NPR: The Last Bastion of Global Warming Source: [None] URL Source: http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/77287.html Published: Feb 3, 2011 Author: Laurence Vance Post Date: 2011-02-03 08:59:31 by no gnu taxes Keywords: None Views: 9416 Comments: 21 I am listening to story after story on NPR about how bad the winter weather is this year. But in between I hear some guy interviewed about global warming and what a problem it is. And he didn’t say climate change, he said global warming. I think that anyone currently in an insane asylum should be let out immediately and replaced with anyone who still believes in global warming. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: no gnu taxes (#0) Why are you listening to NPR instead of fox news? ----- 1. ENVIRONMENT/TODAY: Global Warming Causing More Snow? Come Again? — FoxNews.com Deadline: Feb 01, 2011 11:00 PM EST Former Vice President Al Gore told Bill O’Reilly that: “A rise in global temperature can create all sorts of havoc, ranging from hotter dry spells to colder winters, along with increasingly violent storms, flooding, forest fires and loss of endangered species.” We need comments from someone who can point out the ridiculousness of his argument, even if you accept the somewhat-implausible argument. I’ve been assigned this story just now by Fox News in New York for the science and technology desk. I’m looking for comments. Please send comments via e-mail. Please send your name, title and company you represent. Please send comments by 10 p.m. CST. Contact: Gene Koprowski, [redacted] Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse. go65  posted on  2011-02-03   9:07:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: go65 (#1) Former Vice President Al Gore told Bill O’Reilly Gore's response to O'Reilly quoted that notable, world famous scientist and climate expert -- Clarence Page. ROTFLMOA!!!!! Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-03   11:19:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: All (#2) Here's a real scientist and environmentalist: Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-03   11:20:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: jwpegler (#3) Here's a real scientist and environmentalist: His degree is in ecology. Would you go to him to diagnose and treat cancer? I'm guessing the answer is "no", so why go to him for his views on climate? Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse. go65  posted on  2011-02-03   13:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: go65 (#4) (Edited) Ecology is extraordinarily relevant. So is astrophysics. Most astrophysists think that the global warming hyperbole is a bunch of hooey. Do you think that most "climatologists" have a degree in "climatology"? Until a few years ago, there was no such degree. People who call themselves "climatologists" may have degrees in geology, ecology / environmental science, meteorology, or just about anything else. Patrick Moore has one of those degrees and has spent a lifetime fighting for environment issues. Oh, but he disagrees with cultural leftists who have no education or background in science, like Al Gore, so he needs to be dismissed. No dice. Patrick Moore is the one of the most credible people on this issue today. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-03   19:00:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: jwpegler (#5) Do you think that most "climatologists" have a degree in "climatology"? Until a few years ago, there was no such degree. People who call themselves "climatologists" may have degrees in geology, ecology / environmental science, meteorology, or just about anything else. Don't forget some of the "experts" are experts in cosmetology! I kid you not. "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." -- go65, LF's answer to Ben Bernanke -- Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-02-03   19:05:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: Capitalist Eric (#6) (Edited) Don't forget some of the "experts" are experts in cosmetology! ROLFLMAO... Bessy's School of Beauty and Environmental Science. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-03   19:14:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: jwpegler, no gnu taxes (#5) No dice. Patrick Moore is the one of the most credible people on this issue today. Moore believes the earth is warming, yet I just spent a whole thread listening to No Gnu Taxes telling me it isn't. You guys fight it out. Then, when you are done go and look at the correlation between solar activity since the 1950's and warming over the same period of time. Once you do that, you'll find out that Patrick Moore has absolutely no credibility among anyone outside of the anti-science right wing. Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse. go65  posted on  2011-02-03   21:10:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: jwpegler (#5) Ecology is extraordinarily relevant. So is astrophysics. Most astrophysists think that the global warming hyperbole is a bunch of hooey. Really? Monster snowstorms still spell global warming By Michio Kaku Editor's note: Michio Kaku is a professor of theoretical physics at the City University of New York and author of the forthcoming book "Physics of the Future." http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/01/27/kaku.snowstorms.global.warming/index.html Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse. go65  posted on  2011-02-03   21:15:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: go65 (#9) (Edited) The article you posted said: There is no single smoking gun that can point us to the origin of these monster snowstorms. Global warming is controversial, of course, but the controversy is mainly over whether human activity is driving it. I agree completely with that. So what's your point? Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-03   21:17:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: jwpegler (#10) I agree completely with that. So what's your point? I'm glad you agree that the folks who claim that big snowstorms disprove global warming are wrong. And I agree as well that the controversy is mainly over whether human activity is driving it. I'm glad as well that we agree that the planet is indeed warming. Now, if you can come up with something else that explains the warming other than rising CO2 from human activity, you'll end the controversy. The problem is that there isn't any reason. So the controversy comes from those who accept the science and those who claim it's all a conspiracy, or promote other views (e.g. it's the sun) that have no basis in fact. Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse. go65  posted on  2011-02-03   21:23:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: go65 (#11) I'm glad as well that we agree that the planet is indeed warming. Generally, the planet has been warming since the last glacial period 12,500 years go. During the last 12,500 years, we had a short (200 year) cooling period, but it started warming again around 1800. SUVs did not cause this. I'm pretty sure that they weren't even invented then. Over the last 10 years, it's generally been cooling again. But we are still in a warming cycle. Cooling would be much worse than warming to humans because of the food supply. Something I just learned -- there is only 10% of the bio-diversity at the 45th parallel than there is at the equator. Life on earth really likes hot weather. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-03   21:47:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: jwpegler (#12) Generally, the planet has been warming since the last glacial period 12,500 years go. During the last 12,500 years, we had a short (200 year) cooling period, but it started warming again around 1800. SUVs did not cause this. I'm pretty sure that they weren't even invented then. Over the last 10 years, it's generally been cooling again. But we are still in a warming cycle. Cooling would be much worse than warming to humans because of the food supply. Something I just learned -- there is only 10% of the bio-diversity at the 45th parallel than there is at the equator. Life on earth really likes hot weather. True it has been warming, but warming has rapidly accelerated since the early 1970's as a result of increasing atmospheric CO2. Note that solar activity counter-corresponds to warming - solar activity has decreased since the early 1970's. The only explanation now that withstands scrutiny is rising CO2. And isotope testing confirms that the CO2 is coming from human activity. This is at this point irrefutable. Yes, life likes hotter weather, but life isn't going to like the rapid transition unlike anything we've seen before. Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse. go65  posted on  2011-02-03   22:02:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: go65 (#13) (Edited) warming has rapidly accelerated since the early 1970's as a result of increasing atmospheric CO2 That's an opinion held by some. But there isn't any real evidence for this. There can't be any evidence for this because we don't yet know what's really causes climate cycles over millions of years. The earth's revolution and rotation are probably are part of it. Sunspot cycles may be a part of it. We're just starting to understand this. All of these hysterical headlines should be taken with a grain of salt. "It's the warmest year EVER". Well, "EVER" means since we've been keeping records for 150 years. The data is meaningless because the sampling period is too short in the life of the earth and the accuracy of our measurements have changed dramatically because our measuring technology has changed dramatically over the last 150 years. The improvement in the accuracy of our instruments alone could cause more variation than the changes that have been measured over the last 150 years. Yes, there is no doubt that the earth is warming. But, it's been much warmer in the past than it is today. A slight warming would be more beneficial than a slight cooling to life on earth. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-03   22:32:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: go65 (#13) (Edited) Speaking of measuring technology, can I share one more thing? Two weeks ago, a Harvard professor (Howard Smith) said that after studying the 500 extraolar planets discovered, "alien life is impossible". "We are alone in the Universe". Most of those 500 planets were gas giants like Jupiter. Quite a number were "hot Jupiters" that orbited very close to their stars. Why did we only discover giant planets that orbited close to their stars? Because that's the only thing our technology was capable of discovering. Yesterday, NASA's Kepler Mission reported it's initial findings (looking at a tiny portion of the sky). 1235 new planets. Most planets are small, not big. Multi-planet systems are common. 54 of the planets are in the habitable zones of their stars. So, what is the NASA analysis based on evidence? There are billions upon billions of planets in our galaxy and a countless number of them could support life. I'll bet that Howard Smith wished he would have kept his big mouth shut. My favorite quote of all time: "Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899 Lesson learned: We don't know squat. Any arrogant SOB who claims to know the answers actually knows even less than the rest of us. "Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899 jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-03   22:49:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: jwpegler (#15) Lesson learned: We don't know squat. Any arrogant SOB who claims to know the answers actually knows even less than the rest of us. So you don't believe those who say global warming is caused by the sun? :-) Yes, people make mistakes all the time, the trick comes in looking at the data/methods and making an informed conclusion. And sometimes folks are correct. Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse. go65  posted on  2011-02-03   23:55:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: jwpegler (#14) That's an opinion held by some. But there isn't any real evidence for this. there are multiple land, sea and satellite records, as well as multiple independent reconstructions that reach the same conclusion. There can't be any evidence for this because we don't yet know what's really causes climate cycles over millions of years. We can correlate some past events, such as the MWP, Little Ice Age, etc., and understand the impact of events on earth, changes in orbit, etc. The thing is that there is nothing that explains the current rapid warming trend other than rising atmospheric CO2. We know CO2 is rising, we know it's a greenhouse gas. There is simply no other plausible explanation. Show me an alternative explanation for the warming since the 1970's and I'll change my mind, but so far the counter-arguments is "it's all a conspiracy". Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse. go65  posted on  2011-02-03   23:58:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: go65 (#16) So you don't believe those who say global warming is caused by the sun? As I stated, Sun cycles are probably part of cause along with cycles in the earth's revolution and rotation. Those are the best explanations today, but we really don't know for sure. The climate has changed radically for millions of years. Where you live today used to be under hundreds of feet of ice. I doubt that SUVs where the cause of the dangerous warming that enabled you to live to flourish in North America. "Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899 jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-04   0:55:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: jwpegler (#18) Sun cycles are probably part of cause along with cycles in the earth's revolution and rotation. Except that we can measure both solar and orbit factors. Solar output is lower now than it was in the 1950's, so it can't possibly explain warming since the 1970's, and there are no other changes that line up with the rapid rise of global temps. Except rising atmospheric CO2. Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse. go65  posted on  2011-02-04   8:37:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: go65 (#19) (Edited) Except that we can measure both solar and orbit factors. Solar output is lower now than it was in the 1950's, so it can't possibly explain warming since the 1970's, and there are no other changes that line up with the rapid rise of global temps. Go google Milankovitch Cycles. I've told you this before, there are 26,000 year, 41,000 year, 95,000 year, 125,000 year and 413,000 cycles in the earth's axis procession, axis tilt, and orbital shape that are probably the cause of the earth's climate cycles. Sun spots might have an affect too, but not as much has this. "Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899 jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-05   12:53:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: jwpegler (#20) Go google Milankovitch Cycles. You haven't studied those cycles very closely have you, they suggest that we should be entering an ice age, not rapidly warming. The Milankovitch cycle attributes changes in climate to changes in the earth's wobble as it revolves around the sun, there's no correlation between such a change and the rapid warming since the 1970's. Again, the only factor that correlates is rising atmospheric CO2. Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse. go65  posted on  2011-02-05   13:11:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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