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Title: If the evidence of global warming is so strong why does the left manufacture so much bogus data in an attempt to prove their fairytale?
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Published: Feb 2, 2011
Author: GATEWAY PUNDIT
Post Date: 2011-02-02 11:33:58 by no gnu taxes
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If the evidence of global warming is so strong why does the left manufacture so much bogus data in an attempt to prove their fairytale? This is what climate disruption global change (aka -weather) is really about… Ottmar Edenhofer, a German economist and co-chair of the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change admits the group’s primary goal is the redistribution of wealth and not environmental protection or saving the Earth. http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/554439/201011191859/The-Climate-Cash-Cow.aspx Lets take a look at all the manufactured data by fraudulent people. Bogus Data by a bogus leftist… California (Hein Tran) grossly miscalculated pollution levels by 340% in a scientific analysis used to toughen the state’s clean-air standards http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/10/08/MNOF1FDMRV.DTL Bogus Data… UN climate change panel based claims on student dissertation and magazine article http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7111525/UN-climate-change-panel-based-claims-on-student-dissertation-and-magazine-article.html Bogus Data… UN pledges tighter controls after melting glaciers blunder http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/24/climate-change-un-row Bogus Data… A prime piece of evidence linking human activity to climate change turns out to be an artifact of poor mathematics. http://www.technologyreview.com/Energy/13830/ Bogus Data… The hockey stick hoax http://theblogprof.blogspot.com/2009/01/hockey-stick-hoax_5545.html Bogus Documents… Experts Say White House ‘Misrepresented’ Views to Justify Oil Drilling Moratorium http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/10/experts-say-obama-misrepresented-views-justify-offshore-drilling-ban/ Obama’s top science adviser, John P. Holdren, advocated the “de-development” of the United States http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/51702# What they want is to ‘save’ the planet from capitalism. In other words…fundamentally transform the world into communist governance.
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#7. To: no gnu taxes, rudgear, godwinson (#0)
He said no such thing. What he said was that climate policy will redistribute the world's wealth away from oil and coal producers. It's kind of ironic that you, as one of the biggest pushers of false information, are complaining about what you perceive as false information.
Bullshit. I call you climate phonies on your pack of prevarications.
I call you climate phonies on your pack of prevarications. And there are no weather sensors in the artic [sic] right?
That's not what I said, but you are too dumb to get it. Weather sensors in the Arctic are few and far between, and NONE (or so few as to be inconsequential) are located in remote, inland high areas which would give true measures of the temperature outside the populated coastal UHI where the sensors are located. If you think the sensors in the populated UHI areas correlate with those (which supposedly exist) in the high remote areas, simply provide the exact location of the sensors in both areas and demonstrate how the same readings are obtained in both areas.
so we just ignore the satellite data then?
CONCLUSIONS Analysis of the satellite data shows a statistically significant cooling trend for the past 12 to 13 years, with it not being possible to reject a flat trend (0 slope) for between 16 and 23 years. This is a length of time at which disagreement with climate models can no longer be attributed to simple LTP. On the other hand, studies cited herein have documented a 50–70 year cycle of climate oscillations overlaid on a simple linear warming trend since the mid-1800s and have used this model to forecast cooling beginning between 2001 and 2010, a prediction that seems to be upheld by the satellite and ocean heat content data. Other studies made this same prediction of transition to cooling based on solar activity indices or from ocean circulation regime changes. In contrast, the climate models predict the recent flat to cooling trend only as a rare stochastic event. The linear warming trend in these models that is obtained by subtracting the 60–70 yr cycle, while unexplained at present, is clearly inconsistent with climate model predictions because it begins too soon (before greenhouse gases were elevated) and does not accelerate as greenhouse gases continue to accumulate. This model and the empirical evidence for recent cooling thus provide a challenge to climate model accuracy.
Never mind, a quick google found the source - Anthony Watts. Chuckle. The author of the study is Craig Loehle, a forestry scientist considered an expert by the Heartland institute. He works directly for the paper industry to spin their view of climate change, and who's past efforts are chock full of mistakes. (Watts even published a correction of the above data you cited). http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/12/past-reconstructions/ Every time you post this B.S. data it is either blatantly false, not peer reviewed, or authored by a shill for industries trying to undercut climate change theory for economic gain. Keep at it. You keep embarrassing yourself.
Watts doesn't doctor the data he uses and fudge his models like Hanson et al. What Hanson does was proven and you still deny it. And the correction you cite was evidence of his honesty, even though it was inconsequential to his point.
Wattergate: Tamino debunks “just plain wrong” Anthony Watts Anthony Watts: Disastrously Wrong Again
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Are you not aware that the PIPS computer model only extends down to 50 degrees latitude and doesn't include ice trends between 50-80 degrees where places like Hudson Bay reside? I didn't think so.....
The map shows the Hudson Bay and shows increases in ice there.
take another look, the PIPS computer model shows increasing ice at the cap, shrinking ice in numerous other places. And hudson bay has had less ice than usual this winter: http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2010/12/arctic-ice-growth-stalls-as-europe-shivers.ars Note that the ars technica article is based on actual observation while PIPS is a computer model. And there's a reason why the author picked 2009 as a start point, melting was much greater in 2007 and 2008.
#38. To: go65 (#37)
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Reread the legend. It's increasing everywhere, except perhaps in a very small area of Siberia.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestOttmar Edenhofer, a German economist and co-chair of the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change admits the group’s primary goal is the redistribution of wealth and not environmental protection or saving the Earth.
#11. To: go65 (#7)
one of the biggest pushers of false information
#13. To: no gnu taxes (#11)
Bullshit.
#16. To: go65 (#13)
And there are no weather sensors in the artic
#17. To: no gnu taxes (#16)
Weather sensors in the Arctic are few and far between, and NONE (or so few as to be inconsequential) are located in remote, inland high areas which would give true measures of the temperature outside the populated coastal UHI where the sensors are located.
#21. To: go65 (#17)
#23. To: no gnu taxes (#21)
CONCLUSIONS
#24. To: go65 (#23)
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Every time you post this B.S. data
#29. To: no gnu taxes (#24)
Watts doesn't doctor the data he uses and fudge his models like Hanson et al.
Pseudo-scientist Anthony Watts of the “Watts Up With That” climate change denial blog posted a bold prediction earlier this year — he said this summer would decisively show that the polar ice cap had stopped declining. He guaranteed this, in fact.
Now the scientific measurements have been taken, and the results are in, and Watts’s prediction is revealed as the denialist propaganda it is; in fact, polar ice has declined to historically low levels, and this summer, both the Northwest Passage and the Northeast Passage were completely clear of ice for the first time in recorded history. Watts is a hack and a fraud, posing as a scientist to feed his right wing audience the soothing false claims they want to hear.
#32. To: go65 (#29)
olar ice has declined to historically low levels
#35. To: no gnu taxes (#32)
#36. To: go65 (#35)
Are you not aware that the PIPS computer model only extends down to 50 degrees latitude and doesn't include ice trends between 50-80 degrees where places like Hudson Bay reside?
#37. To: no gnu taxes (#36)
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The map shows the Hudson Bay and shows increases in ice there.
Replies to Comment # 37. he PIPS computer model shows increasing ice at the cap,
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