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Title: GOP Plan To Avoid US Default: Pay China Before Anyone Else
Source: RawStory
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/ ... a-paying-domestic-obligations/
Published: Jan 31, 2011
Author: Eric W. Dolan
Post Date: 2011-01-31 19:21:17 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 1457
Comments: 3

Legislation introduced by Senator Pat Toomey (R-PA) would force the United States government to make interest payments on the national debt a first priority if Congress fails to raise the debt ceiling.

The bill is intended to prevent the US from defaulting on its loans by forcing the government to re-routing massive amounts of income to China, other countries and financial institutions before paying for domestic obligations, such as Social Security.

"Under no circumstances is it acceptable for the US to default on its debt," Sen. Toomey wrote at the Wall Street Journal last week. "Not only are we morally obligated to honor our debts, but we benefit greatly from the nearly universal conviction that those who lend to us will always be repaid, on time and in full."

Sen. Toomey notes that under his legislation, spending cuts would be sudden and severe in the event that Congress fails to raise the debt ceiling, but claims that "it would be even worse simply to raise the debt ceiling without regaining control of federal spending."

House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) said Sunday that not raising the debt ceiling would mean a "financial disaster" for the US and the world, warning Democrats they must support big spending cuts before the GOP-controlled House will support the raising the ceiling.

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Deputy Secretary of the Treasury Neal Wolin addressed the proposed legislation in a statement, saying that "while well-intentioned, this idea is unworkable."

"It would not actually prevent default, since it would seek to protect only principal and interest payments, and not other legal obligations of the US, from non-payment," Wolin explained. "Adopting a policy that payments to investors should take precedence over other US legal obligations would merely be default by another name, since the world would recognize it as a failure by the US to stand behind its commitments."

"It would therefore bring about the same catastrophic economic consequences Secretary Geithner has warned against, including sharp rises in mortgage interest rates and other borrowing costs for families; reductions in the value of homes, 401(k)s and other retirement savings; and negative effects on the dollar and the safe haven status of Treasury bonds and other Treasury securities," he added.

In early January, President Barack Obama's chief economic adviser Austan Goolsbee echoed Geithner's warning.

"The impact on the economy would be catastrophic," he said. "The debt ceiling is not something to toy with."

"I don't see why anybody's talking about playing chicken with the debt ceiling. If we get to the point where you've damaged the full faith and credit of the United States, that would be the first default in history caused purely by insanity."

According to the Deputy secretary, "the only way to prevent default and protect America’s creditworthiness is to enact a timely increase in the debt limit." Subscribe to *Tea Party On Parade*

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

GOP Plan To Avoid US Default: Pay China Before Anyone Else

The U.S. government owes $14 trillion. Only $1 trillion of that is to China.

Toomey is exactly right. The Congress should NOT raise the debt ceiling. If they don't, paying the government's creditors has to be the #1 priority so the country doesn't default and collapse the entire world economy. That means that everything has to be cut by 30% or so to fit into current revenues.

The government would still spend $2 trillion next year, which is about what it spent in 2002. This is very doable.


Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill

jwpegler  posted on  2011-01-31   21:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: jwpegler (#1)

he U.S. government owes $14 trillion. Only $1 trillion of that is to China.

Our total debt- including ALL off-book accounts, is now $202 TRILLION.

Since the government takes in ~$2Trillion per year, we'll be able to have a net value of zero, in ~100 years.

That assumes, of course, that we stop spending any more.

Bottom line is, we're not just broke, we're utterly, completely bankrupt.

Our credit-cards are maxed-out, and we can't even make the minimum payments. So their answer? Raise the limits!

In any real-world scenario, if all your long-term debts are 100 years of your current salary, you'd do the logical thing: you'd declare bankruptcy. In other words, it's time to default.

"Under no circumstances is it acceptable for the US to default on its debt," Sen. Toomey wrote at the Wall Street Journal last week. "Not only are we morally obligated to honor our debts, but we benefit greatly from the nearly universal conviction that those who lend to us will always be repaid, on time and in full."

Complete BULLSHIT.

We have only two options: hyperinflation, or default. It really IS that simple....

Hyperinflation will throw the US citizen under the bus, so that the government can last just a little longer... And the net result will be a local version of what's happening in Egypt and Tunisia...

If the government defaults, they will be out of work, and have to get a real job... but the American society will survive. We'll suffer, but we'll make it through. Of course, if the government chooses default (like Iceland did), their power-base is wiped away, and they'll have no ability to rig deals to line their own pockets...

Of course, because the politicians are a bunch of fucking WHORES who'll sell their own mother for the almighty dollar, they're not gonna' think twice about throwing every last one of US under the bus... So they're gonna' continue to inflate... QE3, QE4, etc....

But unlike the Middle-East countries, we citizens aren't just armed with kitchen-knives and pitchforks, we have *real* weapons...

"There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." -- go65, LF's answer to Ben Bernanke --

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-01-31   23:20:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Capitalist Eric (#2)

Our total debt- including ALL off-book accounts, is now $202 TRILLION.

Only if you include future obligations from the entitlement programs. We can get rid of that "debt" by reforming entitlements so that they are no longer entitlements.


Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill

jwpegler  posted on  2011-02-01   11:25:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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