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Title: Cairo: Anger Starting To Focus On Israel, US
Source: JPOST
URL Source: http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=205931
Published: Jan 30, 2011
Author: JPOST
Post Date: 2011-01-30 17:54:50 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 2643
Comments: 16

CAIRO - Saturday’s optimism on the streets of Cairo for imminent political change gave way to anger on Sunday, as thousands of demonstrators became increasingly frustrated with the lack of response from major world leaders, especially the US.

During the main protest on Sunday in downtown Cairo, one man painted a 20-meter long message in flowing Arabic cursive that echoed across the square: “Go Away Mubarak, you are from the Americans, and you’re working for them!” Egyptians understand that the world is waiting to see if President Hosnei Mubarak falls to popular pressure before major leaders decide which side to support. But this is infuriating for the demonstrators, who realize that six days of unrest has not accomplished their goals, and they need united international pressure in order to topple Mubarak.

The protests have lacked a clear leader to unite them and provide an alternative president to Mubarak. As the major street protests enter their sixth day, demonstrators are beginning to focus their anger not just on the widespread corruption and Mubarak, but also on the United States, and to a lesser extent, Israel. They blame Israel and the US for supporting a government because it is convenient for them, not because it is good for Egyptian people.

“The USA does not support democracy, they’re supporting Israel, which is like their baby,” said Ahmed, a 26-year-old Cairo resident. “They think Egypt is functional because it’s in favor of their considerations.”

“I don’t care if we have peace [with Israel] or not,” Ahmed continued, echoing the indifference of many demonstrators who don’t have a clear agenda for what they want a future Egypt to look like, as long as it does not include Mubarak. “But will Israel allow us to have a real president? For example, Turkey elected an Islamic government, but it was their choice. Will Israel give us the freedom to make the same choice?” he asked.

Demonstrators are relying on the foreign press to get their message to Obama. “Isn’t this democracy?” they asked me over and over when I said I was a journalist from America, incredulous that the country held as the pinnacle of world democracy could ignore such widespread popular sentiment.

“Obama has to be on our side, where is your democracy?” asked Osam L, who works at a foreign bank in Cairo. “You say Arabs are just donkeys, but the USA is supporting the system, not the people.”

The Jewish community in Cairo and Alexandria both declined to speak with the media but told The Jerusalem Post that all of their members were safe and going about things as normally as possible.

Life is slowly returning to Cairo streets after nearly a week of being frozen. Many of the stores in the downtown area remained shuttered, but convenience stores and cell phone kiosks were opening to a brisk business. There was significantly more traffic on the roads, and public transportation and trash collection were partially operational.

At 3:55 pm on Sunday, two fighter jets flew low over the city half a dozen times, ostensibly to remind everyone of the 4:00 pm curfew. The roaring jets used as a scare tactic were successful – by 4:30, the streets were mostly empty of cars as throngs of people headed on foot towards Tahrir Square.

Sunday’s protests were much less violent, though angrier at international leaders. “What you are seeing here is an explosion, we have no other choice,” yelled one demonstrator.

The main protest in Tahrir Square continued to be attended by thousands of demonstrators from all walks of life—toddlers with small flags draped around their shoulders raising a fist in solidarity, old men in traditional garb with canes walking slowly near the sidewalks, giggling school girls, whole families marching arm and arm, young professionals as well as laborers.

“Those people that say we’re out here because of food or oil prices, that’s not true,” said Osam L. “I have enough to eat, thank god. I’m here for my freedom.”

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

“I don’t care if we have peace [with Israel] or not,” Ahmed continued, echoing the indifference of many demonstrators who don’t have a clear agenda for what they want a future Egypt to look like, as long as it does not include Mubarak. “But will Israel allow us to have a real president? For example, Turkey elected an Islamic government, but it was their choice. Will Israel give us the freedom to make the same choice?” he asked.

This guy's a plant.

Interviewed in Tel Aviv most likely.

Anyone seen in a pic laughing with Sharon, Barak, Peres, Netanyahu is a dead Politician walking. And All Candidates so far have been....

The chants from Tahrir Square have been Anti Israel US from the beginning.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-31   10:21:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: mcgowanjm (#1)

Are'nt you excited at the possibility that Moo si lums with big weapons will rush the Juice in the future?

The Egyptian street has morons running around with pictures of Gamel Abdel Nasser.
Nasser who overthrew the Monarchy with the Military.
This is the freedom* the Egyptians want!
Nasser used the streets anti Israel passion,...worked that up to a frenzy with continual speeches calling for Israels destruction/war etc etc.

Then the Juice humilated Egypt in a matter of hours with Generals and Nasser bawling their eye's out over the phone as airfields lay wasted.

This is the tragic ending for the Moo si lum over and over again.
Their leaders think they have true power,....but instead,..all they have is illusion.
Saddam learned that,....Mossedeq,....the Shah.
The Bankers in concert with the Elites end these players when they want it.

Israel is only around because the Elites/bankers want that show to remain.
nobody is secure in this world.
Proven,...as the Black Nobility burned Europe down manytimes over since Napoleon.
all for profit,control and leverage.

Israels had it kinda cushy for sometime now,....maybe the Bankers and Elites will turn and torture them a while.

You should roll your prayer mat out and start begging Allah,....you have 50/50 odds the Elites will torture Israel some in the near future.
no garauntee that the Moo si lums will win in the end,.....the Elites want Muslims to see the Epic fail of their faith as much as the Elites want Christians and Juice to see their faiths fail them.

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2011-01-31   21:34:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Parrot with speed dial, mcgowanjm (#2)

Oh my. This Egyptian thing really does have the zionistas in a snit now doesn't it?

I warned the bastards at least 15 years ago to take their families and flee the bastard State. Anyone with a ounce of common sense and a map of the region would have long heeded my call for their own preservation.

Can't say I didn't try.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2011-01-31   21:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S (#3)

I warned the bastards at least 15 years ago to take their families and flee the bastard State. Anyone with a ounce of common sense and a map of the region would have long heeded my call for their own preservation.

Can't say I didn't try.

Sounds like you want to see them get slaughtered.

Did it occur to you as mentioned in my above post that Black Nobility/Bankers etc burn everything down everywhere.....slaughtering Euro's and Eurasians is no big deal to them.

tell me ,..are you on some Island of no signifigance where the world will obviously not visit you with doom that you pine for utter world Fascism?

I want the Bankers,Elite's and Global Fucks to fail!

How about you,...or are you some Nazi pineing for former days?

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2011-01-31   22:10:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Parrot with speed dial (#2)

Nasser used the streets anti Israel passion,...worked that up to a frenzy with continual speeches calling for Israels destruction/war etc etc.

Egyptians felt pretty much about Nasser and his war with Israel the way Americans began to feel about LBJ and his war with Vietnam - they had no real heart for it - just not enough hate.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2011-01-31   22:16:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Brian S (#0)

Cairo: Anger Starting To Focus On Israel, US

Have they been burning American flags?

I think Egyptians see this as about them and their government, not about the US.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2011-01-31   22:22:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: lucysmom (#5)

Egyptians felt pretty much about Nasser and his war with Israel the way Americans began to feel about LBJ and his war with Vietnam - they had no real heart for it - just not enough hate.

sorry L,...the Egyptians are dumber than all get out.

Their street actually thought they won the war in 1973 against Israel.
So ya,..they knew Egypts military crossed the Suez canal and fought in the Sinai

Egypt goob hid the true outcome of it from them,....they had no idea:

8,000[14]–18,500[15] dead
18,000[14]-35,000[16] wounded
8,783 captured [wiki]

Egyptians danced in the streets while their army's were encircled in Sinai,...with Israeli tanks accross Suez in Egypt proper.

Egyptians fell for it from Nasser,.....fell for it from Sadat.

and they will fall for it again,...be it led by Muslim Brotherhood,....the Egyptian Military or some future puppet.

sorry,....they are exactly this stupid.

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2011-01-31   22:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Parrot with speed dial (#7)

sorry L,...the Egyptians are dumber than all get out.

Mission accomplished. Need I say more?

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2011-01-31   22:35:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: lucysmom (#8)

I live in Canada in oil country Alberta.
There is a sunni from The Lebanon down the street who stops by when I'm out behind the garage doing whatever with my car.
Everytime we talk,...he starts up about the Zionists and cannot grasp the point his beautifull country of The Lebanon has been a hell world of death at the hands of some many foreign players.
He's all in for whoever will attack Israel and end them.
I tell him Israel has the means to turn any attackers world into utter ruin in some final nuclear response.
he could care less.
Matters nothing to him if Shia turn The Lebanon into Sharia law hellworld,
and then attack Israel.
all that matters is the Juice get whats coming to them type thing.

Now,..if your a globalist/reconstructionist,..your wringing your hands with glee that so many nations have so many lunatics available to go do wars for you and get slaughtered by the millions possibly like the dumb ass Euro's were in 2 world wars plus Napoleon era.

Do Americans really care about all the amputee/double amputee and brain damaged from Bush's 2 fake wars overseas?
Do they care about the hundreds of thousands suffering from depleted uranium exposure from Gulf war 1 onward?
Do they care about all the innocent people killed and maimed in these banker grab wars?
They do not even blink when its learned that Opium production is back online in A Stan,....that US and coalition soldiers actually guard the poppy fields.

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2011-01-31   22:47:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Parrot with speed dial (#9)

Silly me. I thought we were talking about Egyptians in Egypt taking to the streets for the purpose of changing their government.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2011-01-31   22:58:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: lucysmom (#10)

Silly me. I thought we were talking about Egyptians in Egypt taking to the streets for the purpose of changing their government.

Obviously I'm speaking in a broader sense,....and do so intentionally to challenge posters and to expose those with extreme socialist if not secret communist leanings.

I get similar push back at say LP,...when showing posters there the Goob of Israel is all Globalist control with Masonic/English Judiciary.

They get batshit crazy upset upon learning this,
they want the world reduced to simple construct like ..
I'm for Israel,....I'm for Jesus,

They cannot understand their worldview is distorted and is exactly what the Elites desire.

Stupid people who will follow the Himmler speech of future reality and security.

as stated several times in my posts to you

The Elites want the paradigm contrast of opposites with great drama's to sweep the stupid up endlessly.

Egyptians are going to get decieved again,...just like they did with Nasser and Sadat.

Both promised reforms....even Mubarak did aswell.
all Egypt got was police state with Sharia Law as recognized as State Law [but notfully implimented as Mubarak at least saved the people from the demand]
but that Law is the actual zenith Law of Egypt,..and could emerge if the people are foolish.
If they want Sharia law,...thats fine,..they are Muslims.

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2011-01-31   23:27:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Parrot with speed dial (#11)

Time will tell.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-01   0:10:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Brian S (#3)

The United States’ hegemony continues to recede in the region and is increasingly viewed, post Palestine Papers, as the enemy of Arabs and Muslim. Its pariah status grows because Washington continues to prop up, fund and arm the Zionist occupation of Palestine.

www.opinion-maker.org/201...ollah-the-new-government/

Jamal Mubarak Jamal Mubarak wanted to feel at home in London. He ordered his goons to kidnap innocent bystanders and subject them to torture. He then slept like a baby. Posted by As'ad at 5:05 AM Email This BlogThis! Share to Twitter Share to Facebook Share to Google Buzz

This just in There is a severe shortage of Kleenex Tissues in Egypt. There are reports of flooding in several Zionist colonial settlements in Palestine. Zionists have not stopped weeping since January 25th. More on this story. Posted by As'ad at 5:05 AM

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-02-01   8:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: All (#13)

There really is too much going on... that I can't keep up with and type.

And USMSM looks to be on 'Weekend Status'.

And yet it's Tuesday. Not only will the Revolution not be Televised, but neither will much else. 8D

Barbed wired going up around Mubarak's Palace.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-02-01   8:33:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Parrot with speed dial (#2)

To: mcgowanjm

Are'nt you excited at the possibility that Moo si lums

I stopped reading there. Too busy.

Zionists crying now. A river. Not enough Kleenex.

On January 30, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton declared that “freedom and democracy” America neither seeks nor supports the ouster of the Egyptian dictator. Israeli prime minister Netanyahu told the US and Europe that criticism of Mubarak must be curbed in order “to preserve stability in the region.”

By “stability” Netanyahu means the unimpeded ability of Israel to continue oppressing the Palestinians and stealing their country. Mubarak has been for three decades the well-paid enforcer for the US and Israel, sealing off Gaza from the outside world and preventing aid flows across the Egyptian border. Mubarak and his family have become multi-billionaires, thanks to the American taxpayer, and the US government, both Republicans and Democrats, do not want to lose their heavy investment in Mubarak.

The US government has long corrupted Arab governments by paying rulers installed by the US to represent US/Israeli interests rather than the interest of Arab peoples. Arabs put up with American-financed oppression for many years, but now are showing signs of rebellion.

The murderous American-installed dictator in Tunis was overthrown by people taking to the streets. Rebellion has spread to Egypt and there are also street protests against the US-supported rulers in Yemen and Jordan.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-02-01   8:35:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: All (#15)

Plainly Revealed.

Since 12122000 and 9/11 it's been the War Of Terror.

The United States’ hegemony continues to recede in the region and is increasingly viewed, post Palestine Papers, as the enemy of Arabs and Muslim. Its pariah status grows because Washington continues to prop up, fund and arm the Zionist occupation of Palestine.

www.opinion-maker.org/201...ollah-the-new-government/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-02-01   8:37:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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