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Title: Is global warming real? Let's find out
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://vvdailypress
Published: Jan 28, 2011
Author: http://www.vvdailypress.com/articles/war
Post Date: 2011-01-28 12:52:57 by no gnu taxes
Keywords: None
Views: 6732
Comments: 30

It is time for an independent investigation of whether or to what degree human activities are creating catastrophic global warming. It should be conducted by scientists untainted by advocacy and uncompromised through receiving taxes or private funding to advance or debunk the theory.

Many in the new Congress were elected on promises to re-evaluate global warming claims used to justify Draconian regulations. A “team of nongovernment and non-U.N. experts must be established with access to all the raw data, records, adjustments, fudges … and computer codes currently being black-boxed by government scientists,” says Robert Ferguson, president of the nonprofit Science and Public Policy Institute for “sound public policy based on sound science.” We agree.

NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration have resisted Freedom of Information Act requests for release of unadjusted raw data and documentation of their adjustments to them. Good science requires theories be tested.

Even proponents of catastrophic manmade global warming theory say the average global temperature increased 0.7 degrees Celsius over the past century. We must be certain such tiny changes and the cataclysmic predictions based on them are valid before imposing huge economic sacrifices, infringing personal freedoms or levying new taxes.

A good place to start is temperature data. NASA and NOAA, which together receive nearly half a billion dollars a year in tax funding for climate research, “have been systematically fiddling the worldwide temperature record for years, making ‘global warming’ look worse than it is,” according to a new paper by meteorologist Joe D’Aleo, an American Meteorology Society fellow.

“(W)hen data conflicts with models, a small coterie of scientists can be counted upon to modify the data” to agree with models’ projections, says MIT meteorologist Dr. Richard Lindzen.

Research by meteorologist Anthony Watts found 11 percent of U.S. ground temperature stations meet NASA’s own standards for the required distance between stations and adjacent heat sources, seriously compromising readings. That’s before NASA “adjusts” the raw data, adding more significant additional false warming, Mr. Watts says.

The raw temperature data produced by the … stations are not sufficiently accurate to use in scientific studies or as a basis for public policy decisions,” he concludes.

Thousands of e-mails leaked in 2009 from Britain’s Climate Research Unit showed researchers lamented the “hapless state” of their temperature records, including “hundreds if not thousands of pairs of dummy and duplicate stations,” and “no uniform data integrity.”

CRU Director Phil Jones later conceded “temperature data are in such disarray they probably cannot be verified or replicated,” bringing into question the U.S. records because, “almost all the data we have in the CRU archive is exactly the same.”

An independent analysis also should be made of climate computer models and the purported cause-and-effect relationships assumed between greenhouse gases and higher temperature, rising sea levels and melting glaciers.

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#1. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

What is your PhD in? Has your research been peer reviewed/published?

Godwinson  posted on  2011-01-28   12:56:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Godwinson (#1)

Is anthropogenic global warming real?

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-28   13:38:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Rudgear (#4)

Is anthropogenic global warming real?

Are you not aware that several studies have showed that warmer winters generate more snow than colder winters?

See: Heavy Snowfall in a Warming World

Simple physics: warmer air holds more moisture than colder air. Though I guess one could just dismiss physics as being some sort of conspiracy too?

go65  posted on  2011-01-28   14:01:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: go65 (#6) (Edited)

ALL snow comes from moisture. Even before the global warming scam began. Records have only been kept for little over a century. There is NO WAY any creditable scientist would take such spare information and try to build a model.

In the seventies it was another Ice Age. Now its man-made global warming. Even if it is true (and there is nothing to say without a doubt it is) there is nothing that could do about it.

Not even congress could do anything.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-28   14:15:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Rudgear (#9)

ALL snow comes from moisture. Even before the global warming scam began. Records have only been kept for little over a century. There is NO WAY any creditable scientist would take such spare information and try to build a model.

Obviously you don't understand ice cores, tree rings, or any other scientific data analysis or modeling techniques.

I suggest you spend a few hours reading here to educate yourself:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

Yeah i know, science, not fox news.

go65  posted on  2011-01-28   14:25:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: go65 (#10)

Don't patronize me, you CNN groupie. What's your PhD in doctor? Global warming isn't science; its politically driven hysteria. Furthermore, I don't take my science 'facts' from a pack of liberal hysterics.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-28   14:31:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Rudgear (#11)

Global warming isn't science; its politically driven hysteria.

Nope, it is science, and I pointed you to a link that provides all the science behind global warming theories.

You are of course welcome to continue to dismiss it with "it's all a conspiracy" but realize that puts you in the same class as truthers, birthers, and those who believe that Elvis is still alive.

go65  posted on  2011-01-28   14:42:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: go65 (#12)

You pointed me to one-sided pro warming info. That isn't science. Its propaganda, which is what attracts you.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-28   14:45:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Rudgear (#13)

You pointed me to one-sided pro warming info. That isn't science. Its propaganda, which is what attracts you.

Actually I pointed you to the peer-reviewed scientific research.

If you consider that to be propaganda, then so be it. It's easy to dismiss arguments I suppose when you have made up your mind before reading any of the data.

go65  posted on  2011-01-28   15:13:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: go65 (#18)

You lose the benefit of peer-reviewed info when you refuse to post the other side of the argument. Who did the peer-review? More liberal snake-oil salesmen looking for government grants?

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-28   15:16:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#21. To: Rudgear, go65 (#19) (Edited)

You lose the benefit of peer-reviewed info when you refuse to post the other side of the argument.

Peer reviews in science favor the majority opinion. The minority opinion would matter when the split is closer. The global warming peer review consensus is that it is happening and favorable opinion is lopsided towards that view. The only explanation the anti-global warming crowd has to that is that it's a conspiracy in the scientific community to sabotage capitalism so communism can win (even though communism is pro industrialization ideology and is anti-agrarian/back to nature ideology).

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