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Title: Will the Arab revolutions spread?
Source: Marc Lynch
URL Source: http://lynch.foreignpolicy.com/post ... ll_the_arab_revolutions_spread
Published: Jan 27, 2011
Author: Marc Lynch
Post Date: 2011-01-27 16:42:46 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 7303
Comments: 16

The end of the Tunisian story hasn't yet been written. We don't yet know whether the so-called Jasmine Revolution will produce fundamental change or a return to a cosmetically-modified status quo ante, democracy or a newly configured authoritarianism. But most of the policy community has long since moved on to ask whether the Tunisian protests will spread to other Arab countries -- Egypt, of course, but also Jordan, Yemen, Algeria, Libya, and almost every place else. Most experts on each individual country can offer powerful, well-reasoned explanations as to why their country won't be next. I'm skeptical too.

But I found it unsatisfying to settle for such skepticism as I watched the massive demonstrations unfold in Egypt on my Twitter feed while moderating a panel discussion on Tunisia yesterday (I plead guilty). As I've been arguing for the last month, something does seem to be happening at a regional level, exposing the crumbling foundations of Arab authoritarianism and empowering young populations who suddenly believe that change is possible. There are strong reasons to expect most of these regimes to survive, which we shouldn't ignore in a moment of enthusiasm. But we also shouldn't ignore this unmistakable new energy, the revelation of the crumbling foundations of Arab authoritarian regimes, or the continuing surprises which should keep all analysts humble about what might follow.

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Two final points. First, we must not allow fears of Islamists to short-circuit support for such transitions. Already, scare-mongering over the potential for Islamist takeovers has become a major, even dominant theme of Western and Arab official discussions of Tunisia --- and that, in a country where the primary Islamist party al-Nahda was long ago crushed and its leaders exiled. I've long expected that if Egypt got the democratic change which so many in Washington talk about, there would be a rapid and intense backlash as the still powerful Muslim Brotherhood necessarily played a major role and as popular opposition to the Mubarak government's foreign policy jeopardized American and Israeli interests. I'm hoping to be proven wrong.

Second, I think that the Obama administration has handled the last month surprisingly well. It has been absolutely right to resist trying to claim credit for change in Tunisia or to put a "Made in America" stamp on something which manifestly was not. I suspect that there was more of a role behind the scenes in shaping the Ben Ali endgame than is now known. The State Department and the White House have issued a series of strong statements in support of the Tunisian people, including in last night's State of the Union, and last night the White House took a very well-crafted position on Egypt: "We support the universal rights of the Egyptian people, including the rights to freedom of expression, association and assembly. The Egyptian government has an important opportunity to be responsive to the aspirations of the Egyptian people, and pursue political, economic and social reforms that can improve their lives and help Egypt prosper. The United States is committed to working with Egypt and the Egyptian people to advance these goals."

Obama was right in the past to not give in to the temptation to make empty declarations on Egyptian or Arab democracy which would not be met, thereby proving the U.S. either hypocritical or impotent. And the administration was right to focus, as I've long suggested, not on "democracy" but on civil society, economic opportunity, and the "Bill of Rights" freedoms (of speech and of assembly, transparency and accountability). But now conditions have changed, the potential for rapid transformations has appeared, and it's time for the administration to seize the moment to make a difference. For all the criticism he's received on democracy promotion, the Obama administration has now already overseen one more peaceful transition away from Arab authoritarian rule than under the entire Bush administration. It's no longer wishful thinking to suggest that it might not be the only one.

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#1. To: mcgowanjm, brian S, ferret mike, jwpegler, sneakypete, godwinson (#0)

Ping.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-01-27   16:43:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: go65 (#0) (Edited)

Will the Arab revolutions spread?

Thanks for the ping.

I certainly hope they spread.

There is a danger. The U.S. government has been propping up Mubarak and other ruthless dictators in the middle east for decades. The Muslim Brotherhood could use that fact to get in front of these movements and take control.

But I don't think they can.

These people are protesting poor economic conditions and harsh political regimes. The Muslim Brotherhood is no answer. The young people on Facebook, Twitter, etc. understand that.

The key will be getting people with liberal (global, not American definition) political and economic values in front of these movements. Do they exist??? They do in Egypt. I'm not sure about the other Arab countries.

Much of Asia and Latin America went through this transformation in the 80s and 90s. Maybe in the 2010s, it's the Arab's turn. Then Africa will be the only region left that is largely controlled by corrupt despots.

This is very encouraging.


Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill

jwpegler  posted on  2011-01-27   17:00:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: go65 (#0)

You're watching History pass Obama by.

Joe Biden: Mubarak isn't a dictator. I don't know why the people are in the streets.

He's either completely ignorant, he believes his own AgitProp, or he's suffering from Complete Cognitive Dissonance.

Or a combo of the above.

This is not the way 9/11 was supposed to turn out. Hey! Why don't we attack Iran now. Just to see what happens. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-28   9:45:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: mcgowanjm (#3)

You're watching History pass Obama by.

Upcoming jihaddi controlled Suez Canal & Strait of Hormuz, the civilized world is in much deeper shit than I thought we were last week this time.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2011-01-28   9:52:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mcgowanjm (#3)

Hey! Why don't we attack Iran now. Just to see what happens. 8D

We might get our butts kicked is why we don't.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-01-28   9:58:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Happy Quanzaa (#4)

You're watching History pass Obama by.

Upcoming jihaddi controlled

And that's the first problem.

The NSA/CIA storyline of Religious jihad is not involved.

The Clerics are preaching in favor of the dictators. The Muslim Brotherhood refused to join the protest!

This is secular. Soon to be Nationalistic. And that's what really scares the Top 50 000.

All of that AlQaeda BS out the window.

"A massive bombing in Baghdad’s Shi’ite neighborhood of Shula targeted a funeral today, killing around 80 people and wounded upwards of 100 others. The attack is the largest of what has been a growing string of major bombing attacks over the past two weeks.

In the wake of the protests angry locals took to the streets, condemning the police for failing to stop the bombing despite the fact that Shula only has one road entrance, and that is a police checkpoint. Inevitably, police opened fire on the protesters.

Which normally is the end of the matter, beyond a few articles about how many civilian protesters the police killed. But in the wake of today’s bombing and reportedly bolstered by growing unrest across the Mideast, some of the protesters fired back."-Jason Ditz

And of course the Double Standard. Iran does what Egypt's doing now and LF/MSM's ALL over their ass.

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-28   10:00:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Fred Mertz (#5)

We might get our butts kicked is why we don't.

Extend and Pretend.

Foreign Policy version. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-28   10:07:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: go65 (#0)

My people do yearn for freedom so it is an unstoppable force. Once me and my brothers are free we will spread our freedom across the world so that all may benefit.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-01-28   10:19:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: mcgowanjm (#6)

Iran does what Egypt's doing now

Mubarak had locked up all of the Muslim Brotherhood he could get his hands on (which I suspect is only a fraction). I'm watching Al Jazera as we speak, they report "God Is Great" chants from the crowd. I saw a report on a Russian TV channel that said the mobs have completely taken over Suez (the city, not the canal). Anyhow, it doesn't matter who the majority of the protesters are for, it's the Islamists who always have a locked & loaded organization ready to jump in & fill the power vacuum when a government collapses. In short, I predict what you're going to see is Egypt doing what Iran did in '79.

Anyhow, good live footage from Cairo of a revolution in progress on Al Jazeera TV right now.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2011-01-28   11:06:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Happy Quanzaa (#9)

Mubarak had locked up all of the Muslim Brotherhood he could get his hands on (which I suspect is only a fraction).

So why did All the clerics this Morning preach 'peace and reconciliation'.

Before that 'Don't hurt yourself as in self immolation'.

And why haven't any Al Qaeda tossed gasoline and lighters on them selves as they throw their baodies at Interior Ministries.

Because they're nothing but Apparatchiks of the police state.

Much like the religions in the US btw.

This is secular. Jobs. Bread. diginity. And stop torturing my family as yours goes to London/Paris to do your hair and party.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-28   11:11:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: mcgowanjm (#10) (Edited)

As I already tried to say, it doesn't matter how big a POS Mubarak is, and it doesn't matter if the the mob wants a secular government, and it doesn't matter if the clerics with microphones are preaching praises of Mubarak, what matters is it's radical Islamists who already have a game plan to fill any power vacuum that happens. The secularists in the crowd are doing their work for them, when the smoke clears it's the jihaddis who will be in control.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2011-01-28   11:28:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Happy Quanzaa (#11)

Hopefully you are wrong. They secular arabs should exterminate any muslims who want to force them to be muslims. EXTERMINATE THEM! Muslims worship a pedophile and are mentally deranged and dangerous.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-01-28   11:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#12)

Hopefully you are wrong.

I hope so, but I don't think so.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2011-01-28   11:40:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Happy Quanzaa (#11)

radical Islamists who already have a game plan to fill any power vacuum that happens.

And what I'm telling you.

Their 'game plan's as dead as the US/Israel.

Yes, the military will take control. Eventually.

The casualties will be as great for priests, politicians, and acquisitors.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-28   12:09:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: All (#14)

Egypt Protests Rage: ElBaradei House Arrest

This guy carries water for US.

That's how out of touch Mubarak is.

I can imagine the West Bank is giving the PA problems right now. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-28   12:26:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#12)

Muslims worship a pedophile and are mentally deranged and dangerous.

Most states in the US in 1880 put the age of consent at 10 years old, Delaware's law makers decided 7 was old enough.

In England and the United States, feminist agitation in the late nineteenth century called attention to the young age of consent and called for changes in the law. By the 1920s the age of consent, a state issue in the United States, was raised in every state and ranged from fourteen to eighteen, with most states settling on sixteen or eighteen.

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Delaware must have been full of pedophiles to put the age of consent so low.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2011-01-28   13:09:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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