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Title: Exclusive: US Empire Will Fall Due To Lack Of Faith, Not Finances Or War, Author Warns
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RawStory
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/ ... g-washington-author-tells-raw/
Published: Jan 27, 2011
Author: Nathan Diebenow
Post Date: 2011-01-27 12:55:52 by Brian S
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As many in the American empire longingly talk of "recovery" from the most devastating economic condition since the Great Depression, others have begun thinking in a very different direction, urging fellow citizens to prepare for the worst. Dmitry Orlov, author of "Reinventing Collapse: The Soviet Example and American Prospects," is one of the latter. Soon, he told Raw Story in an exclusive interview, Americans will "stop expecting anything of Washington," turning the US into more of a "banana republic" than a super power. Orlov, who witnessed the Soviet Union's collapse from within, lamented that the American empire's condition is so severe there is "absolutely nothing" most can do to keep it alive or hasten its demise. "Basically the people in this country are powerless," he suggested. "So they should probably focus on things closer to home." Orlov, born in born in Leningrad (now known as Saint Petersburg), moved to the United States at age 12 and became an engineer. In his book, he detailed his experiences with the Soviet collapse on numerous visits to Russia in the late 1980s, early 1990s. He covered similarities between the two superpowers in their twilight and suggested ways for Americans to adapt to their new post-empire environment. Amid horrid unemployment and a national deficit soaring past World War II levels, Orlov theorized that the US empire would eventually collapse -- not from finances or war, but from a lack of faith in the system. It would happen over three overlapping stages, he said: financial, political and commercial. "We're fairly far along in the financial collapse trajectory while political collapse has now really only started with the last election," he said. By the next election cycle, Orlov figured, the United States would be in the throes of a "banana republic" such that the voters would exchange one inept political party for another inept political party while expecting different results. While nothing constructive would result from this behavior, he said, the next meaningless shift in 2012 may be the last straw. "That will run its course where people walk away in disgust and stop expecting anything of Washington," he said. Environmental and social catastrophe "People will lose access to various products that they need," Orlov said. Much has already collapsed in the commercial sphere. Vacant strip malls and deserted grocery stores clutter the landscape in many parts of the country. "You also have people whose only source of food is food stamps," he said. "That's becoming predominant in a lot of communities." But let's not fail to mention an overemphasis on military expenditures and unused industrial areas, Orlov insisted, describing them as mis-investments made by both empires. "To this day, the former Soviet Union is littered with abandoned or semi-abandoned industrial sites just as the United States is," he noted. By Orlov's estimation, the US military will never voluntarily quit being the world's largest oil consumer and largest polluter. Moreover, any plans suggested to the military to end its oil dependency in 30 years are an act of "desperation," he said. "They have set their hair on fire and are running around in circles. That's their drill right now," Orlov quipped. But what really seemed to rock the Soviet empire to its foundations, Orlov explained, was devastation of Russia's physical environment as a result of industrialization. The prime example was the nuclear reactor accident in Chernobyl in 1986. To this day, the site continues to produce very high levels of childhood leukemia, cancers and other diseases. "[The Chernobyl accident] caused a great number of people, including people in some positions of authority, especially in the scientific community in Russia, to seriously mistrust the government, and [they] started doing their own research, making their own observations that disquieted them even more," Orlov explained. Former Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev's "glasnost" policy allowed enough truth out to undermine the remaining Soviet authority to the point where those who operated the system lost interest in perpetuating it, Orlov said. While likening the Chernobyl disaster to the Deepwater Horizon accident in the Gulf of Mexico on his blog, Orlov said that he expects no hearts of American leaders to bleed over their destroyed environment any time soon. "I don't see the elite in the United States at quite that level of desperation quite yet -- probably because they are a little bit less attuned to what's going on," he said. "They are a little bit more sheltered from the public at large. But that might change."
As the financial collapse runs its course, Orlov said, people can expect some imports to be cut off. Energy, above all cheap oil, will be the most important import to dry up. Transportation fuels will also become scarce, bringing on the next stage of social collapse: the commercial sphere, he noted.
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#70. To: Rudgear (#69)
Conservatives ain't what they used to be before neocons infiltrated their ranks.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
Do you just argue to argue?
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
You suck at what you're attempting to do.
And the sheep will bleat their submission, Burma Shave.
Do you just argue to argue? All shills do.
And the sheep will bleat their submission, Burma Shave.
I am not a Democrat. The fact your clique keeps seeing this as a Democrat vs Republican to me shows your world view is influenced by talk show radio to the point you can't imagine a political ideology different from either or a little of this or that.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Oh, just shut up already. You give me a headache.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Rewarding.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
They are blinded by their consensus-based decision-making process. It doesn't matter if they're right or wrong. All they care about is that THEY think they're right... AKA "group-think." If you want a good example of group-think, simply look at the shuttle Challenger disaster... They're after that sort of thing, on a global scale.
"There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." -- go65, LF's answer to Ben Bernanke --
From a post to Eskimo: It's like that PC-version of mathematics they were teaching in the grade schools for years, called "New-New Math." [If you google it, you'll find plenty to make your blood boil...] Anyway, New-New Math has a simple premise: it doesn't matter if you get the right answer, as long as you feel GOOD about it... ... They [leftists] exhibit the incongruent characteristics of in-your-face elitism, with a shocking level of ignorance. They really don't give a shit about the truth, they don't care about facts, and they aren't interested in learning, because THEY believe they know enough to judge on any subject, at any time. And once they've made their conclusions- even if they're shockingly flawed- they refuse to change... they don't want to take the chance of being embarrassed or sad, because they got the wrong answer. So they'll *stick* with the wrong answer, and feel GOOD about it... It gives them a feeling of smugness and self-righteously complacency. So when go56 or godwinson or ... whomever... gets on, and starts pushing the leftist agenda, they will not back down, no matter how wrong they may be. Stubbornly clinging to fantasy, so that they can feel GOOD about themselves, is all they care about, no matter how delusional their statements may be. The only tactic that works with them, is to be shouted down. If they cannot keep restating their flawed position, if they're attacked every time they lie, if they exposed for the pschological misfits that they truly are, they will eventually skulk away, because being attacked constantly deprives them of their offensive self-satisfaction. That is why they use this tactic on others (shouting people down), because it works on THEM. You ever listen to a radio talk-show, when a leftist calls in? You notice how they keep talking, NEVER stop, even when they're trapped into a corner, and can't get out...? They think that being aggressive in their arguments (even if the arguments are patently false), pure bravado will win the day for them... [In the same way, they foolishly believe such tactics will work here, and that's why choose to attack anyone whose factual data refutes their position. When that tactic fails, they will then resort to the bozo filter (if you've not done so already), and then start bitching at other forums about US, at this forum... Because we're not responding as THEY would respond. There are two main philosophies in the area of qualitative research: Positivists generally assume that reality is objectively given and can be described by measurable properties which are independent of the observer. Interpretive researchers start out with the assumption that access to reality (given or socially constructed) is only through social constructions such as language, consciousness and shared meanings. I'm most definitely in the positivist segment, while the leftists gravitate to the "interpretivist" camp, because they believe that a shared consensus of perceived reality- even if radically different from observable, measureable reality- is equally valid. I am working on my doctorate- and dealing with a LOT of the "interpretivist" crowd. And honestly, I'm so SICK of their consensus- driven horse-shit...
"There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." -- go65, LF's answer to Ben Bernanke --
Actually I think he/she is rather good at it and it is really pissing you off. {{{chuckle}}}
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
That's what proves you're one stupid motherfucker.
And the sheep will bleat their submission, Burma Shave.
Their mental weakness makes them lash out like children.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Suck my dick, cowardly shill.
And the sheep will bleat their submission, Burma Shave.
BTW, cocksucker, you metrosexual attribute to not address me directly but rather through your rump-ranger buddy is noted, faggot. Let me know when you grow the balls for a one on one, pussy.
And the sheep will bleat their submission, Burma Shave.
It's obvious to me that you don't have the slightest idea of what you are talking about. You are just regurgitating the communist nonsense you so gladly accept because it fits in with your class status envy. You are so blinded by this you can't even see the middle class,or are so confused you think the middle class are poor. Which I guess really is possible if you have never seen poor people and how they live. One of the hallmarks of banana republics, says the NYT's Nicholas Kristof, is income inequality. Brilliant insight! Just FREAKING BRILLIANT! Others are that the people drink water,they eat food,some are males,some are females,and the sun rises in the east and sets in the west on all of them. Let's see,now. How long have the communists been parroting this line now? Didn't it start in the early 1900's? The richest 1 percent of Americans now take home almost 24 percent of income, up from almost 9 percent in 1976. And the OTHER 99% STILL have a better standard of living that anybody in any socialist shithole anywhere in the world. As Timothy Noah of Slate noted in an excellent series on inequality, SLATE? On inequality??????? ROFLMAO! This just keeps getting funnier and funnier. the United States now arguably has a more unequal distribution of wealth than traditional banana republics like Nicaragua, Venezuela and Guyana. BullBarack! BTW,those countries are some of your socialist/communist shitholes. The author should try fixing them before braying that nonsense in print. BTW,the voters voted the communists OUT of power there,and even then the commie leader there that was so beloved by the NYC elitist crowd for his love of clothing as well as political fashion refused to move out of the mansion he had confiscated from the rightful owner when he became dictator. I guess Mick Jagger's ex-wife wasn't willing to buy him a new mansion because it would have cut into her private jet budget. C.E.O.’s of the largest American companies earned an average of 42 times as much as the average worker in 1980, but 531 times as much in 2001. Remind me again,comrade. Who OWNS and manages the freaking companies,the owners or the workers? Who is primarily responsible for the wealth to start with,including the wealth paid out as wages? Since many of the workers had trouble managing the 8th grade,I think we all know the answers,don't we? Perhaps the most astounding statistic is this: From 1980 to 2005, more than four-fifths of the total increase in American incomes went to the richest 1 percent. Figure don't lie,but liars do figure. I would LOVE to see a breakdown on this brain fart.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Absolutely! I have always said the foundation of communism is personal greed combined with laziness and a lack of self-respect and ambition. When you root right down to the core of it,what they want is for the government to punish the "wealthy" for the Cardinal Sin of having "more than me." This is because they NEVER consider themselves to be rich even if that have Oprah Money. The "Wealthy" they want the government to punish is anybody that makes ONE dollar a week more than they do. They want the government to take that dollar away so nobody is more successful than they are. NOBODY is more class-conscious than a communist. Most likely because they recognize deep down that THEY have no class themselves and resent anybody that shows them up for the slugs they are.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Nanny Gubmint! Nanny Gubmint! Make the bad mans share! WAHHHH! WAHHHHH! WAHHHHHH! Guess what,Sparky? Your mama lied to you. Life ain't fair,and you really AIN'T the smartest and bestest looking boy in the whole wide world. Do NOT expect government to correct the limitations Mother Nature laid on your shoulders.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Good, that's just what your masters want you to think. Don't tell us,let us guess. You are too clever to fall for it,right?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
No,he was a commie because he wanted cheaper white blonde whores to beat on.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
No,he was a commie because he wanted cheaper white blonde whores to beat on. If Jesus came back and preached the same message today, he's be a commie too. Jesus may have been the world's first commie beyond the tribal level.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
The scary thing is you really do believe that nonsense. I hope you get well one day. Seriously.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Communism IS a religion.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
No,because Obama is merely the latest Bush incarnation. This started with Poppy Bush,and has gotten worse every year since that evil bastard was elected. The current traitor in the White House is just the most recent "Bush",Bush 4.0.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Created by "wage and price controls" President Nixon.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
The ONLY jobs government is capable of creating is more government jobs. And even then they use taxpayer money to create and administer the jobs. Government has NO money of it's own. ALL their money comes from the international bankers they borrow the money from to meet the needs of the government. The tax money they collect goes to pay the bankers. The only jobs created were more government jobs.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
You do realize you are asking a socialist to do his own thinking instead of demanding the collective to do it for him,right?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
PREACH IT! The key is getting rid of the Federal Reserve. Nothing else will be possible until that is done.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Oh,BullBarack! It's just like those bogus polls you idiots are always producing. Full of pretty colors and pictures,and entirely lacking in substance. There is not even the slightest hint of how they numbers were acquired,what they mean,how they compare to the numbers and population bases of other countries,or even what they mean in THIS country. They are HEADLINE charts,graphs,and polls. Nothing more. All bun,no meat. Just one glaring example is there no mention of the annual income of typical working class American. You want people to look at the incomes of multi-billionaires and compare them to the typical American worker without giving out any information on the wage scales of the typical America worker. Are we supposed to feel sorry for the typical lower 6 figure income American working family because some other family earns 10 or more times as much? You socialist/communist/fascist fools are always destined to be unhappy because you ALWAYS focus on what other people have instead of appreciating what you have. Your own greed and envy destroy any attempt at happiness you would ever have had.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
It's the LACK of information on the polls and graphs they put out that bothers me. A bunch of us caught CNN rigging a gun control poll back in the early 90's. We even took screen shots to document it. CNN had a poll set up about gun control. When it didn't go the way they wanted,they took it down for a day or so to "correct the technical problems" When it came back online it was set up so that a "against gun control" vote was logged in as being "FOR gun control". When we started posting screen shots that showed how the numbers had been reveresed in less than 48 hours and proved it was a fraudulent poll,they took it down without comment and froze the thread so no more posts could be make to it. As their idol used to say,"It doesn't matter who votes. What matters is who counts the votes."
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Ahhhh,the sweet irony of watching you leftist class warriors gird your loins to fight for the rights and profits of the international bankers! It's really hard to believe that some people actually think you are naive and hypocritical,ain't it?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
What? WHAT? WHAT? Where is the international solidarity? The love for your fellow man? The civility instead of the insults? Your very "We iz da wurldism"? Frankly,I am disappointed in you,comrade!
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
If there is a difference it is so minuted you would have to use a microscope to spot it.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
The greatest economic down turns in American history occurred after the Federal Reserve was created, including the The Depression of 1920–21, The Great Depression, the inflationary recession (which Keynesians said was impossible) of the Carter years, and the current Great Recession. The Federal Reserve was responsible for them all. Most of the economic downturns of the 19th century were caused by poor monetary policy as well. The Depression of 1819 was caused by government expansionist monetary policies to fund the war of 1812. Which the U.S. central bank later over-corrected by severely contracting the money supply. The panic of 1873 occurred due to a worldwide fall in the demand for silver started when Germany abandoned silver in favor of gold. The U.S. had a dual metals standard with a fixed exchange rate between silver and gold. Fixed exchange rates don't work because they don't account for variability in the supply of each each commodity. More silver was being mined than gold so people start hoarding gold while using silver for transactions. Most of the silver was being mined in the U.S. The drop in demand for silver forced the U.S. to pass the Coinage Act of 1873 which got rid of the dual metal standard in favor of a gold standard. The act further depressed silver prices and reduced the supply of money in the U.S. (because silver was no longer money) and caused interest a sharp increase in interest rates. The Depression of 1893 was also caused by poor monetary policy, namely the Sherman Silver Act of 1990. The bottom line is that lousy government monetary policies have been the cause of most economic downturns.
You and I are in 100% agreement on this one. It benefits nobody but the Chinese and the international globalist bankers. It is you who are defending the fact that 1% of the American population controls 4/5th of the wealth in this country while the rest live off the 1/5th crumbs the rick piss down - excuse me - trickle down to the rest. Why do you spend so much time in angst over what someone else has? You would be better off spending more time focusing on what you have and what you want. It is you who allow this condition by allowing the GOP to play dog whistle politics so they can get you guys riled up by flag burning or black rappers or whatever angers Archie Bunker types to support the GOP so that when in power the GOP carries out more wealth transfers to the 1%. Ok,Buckwheat,here is where you train leaves the tracks again. Why is all of the above evil when a formal member of the Bush Crime Family does it,but just peachy-keen when Acting President Soetoro (Bush 4.0) not only does the same things,but EXPANDS on them? Enquiring minds,and all dat. I am not excusing the Dems - Except,you are. You remind me greatly of the Bush Bots that were so full of outrage of the "treason of Bill Clinton" for selling the Chinese missile technology,but strangly silent or even approving when Boy Jorge got into office and did the same and more. call Obama a "Commie" is laughable I agree. He is a fascist. Assuming of course he is even bright enough to know what a fascist is. Which is in doubt. IMHO,he is barely smart enough to know where the money comes from,and anything much beyond that has him having "Kennedy Moments". After all,Joe Biden is the perfect replacement for for him,except Uncle Joe is slightly smarter. True,the same can be said about the typical snail darter,but facts iz facts. At least Uncle Joe is with the class of snail darters that didn't go to the "special" classes. It shows me that as bad as the two party frauds are you GOP types are worse because you are delusional like that. You calling someone else delusional is akin to Helen Thomas calling somebody else "ugly". At least the progressives in the Democratic party know Obama betrayed them. That shows me progressives have a handle on reality. Now,THERE'S a real howler! Are you trying to get me to hit the humor ping list? So-called "progressives" and reality don't even exist in the same universe. You live in some sort of bizarro world where communism is a progressive movement.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Ok,you have finally done it. You have posted a response that is 100% correct. Are you feeling well?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Really? Isn't he trying to make so-called "progressives" look like the clueless fools they really are? I personally think he's doing a bang-up job of doing this.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Then tell your Democrat buddies to fix the convoluted tax and regulatory system in the U.S. We have the highest corporate tax rate in the world and the most complex regulatory regime.
He,not. He's a Euroweenie globalist/socialist/communist/fascist. Depending where on that Evolutionary Chain he happens to be at the moment. He just loves to defend the Dims because they are closer to his heart,and conservatives scare him with all that talk about self-reliance.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
The envious man thinks that if his neighbor breaks a leg, he will be able to walk better himself -- Helmut Schoeck
Bookmarking self-ping. I've had a fine time amusing myself here this morning,but it's warm enough to do things outside now so I'm off to do more important things. Be back later.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestI'm not a neocon.
#71. To: lucysmom (#70)
#72. To: Godwinson (#66)
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.
#73. To: Rudgear (#71)
To: lucysmom
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.
#74. To: Rudgear, Lucysmom (#67)
#2. I do not defend the Bush years. I try (foolishly) to get you to see your Democrats are the same,
#75. To: Godwinson (#74)
Blah blah blah blah blah blah . . .
#76. To: Rudgear (#75)
Oh, just shut up already. You give me a headache.
#77. To: Rudgear (#67)
I do not defend the Bush years. I try (foolishly) to get you to see your Democrats are the same, if not worse.
#78. To: Rudgear (#75)
#79. To: Wood_Chopper, Godwinson (#72)
You suck at what you're attempting to do.
#80. To: Brian S (#79)
(Edited)
Actually I think he/she is rather good at it and it is really pissing you off.
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.
#81. To: Brian S, Wood_Chopper (#79)
#82. To: Godwinson (#81)
(Edited)
Their mental weakness makes them lash out like children.
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.
#83. To: Godwinson (#81)
(Edited)
Their mental weakness makes them lash out like children.
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.
#84. To: Godwinson (#1)
The USA is already a "banana republic" in one regard, the wealth distribution disparity is much or greater than it was in Latin America back when they were all dictatorships.
#85. To: jwpegler (#2)
And the historical solution that the leftists always employ is to make every equally poor, except of course for the party apparatchiks who get to control everything.
#86. To: Godwinson (#3)
(Edited)
Actually this statement of yours admits there is a problem - and trickle down supply side economics of the GOP made the 1% rich 4/5th richer and the rest of the 99% of the population gets to share the 5/5th crumbs.
#87. To: lucysmom, jwpegler (#6)
And the historical solution that the leftists always employ is to make every equally poor, except of course for the party apparatchiks who get to control everything.
#88. To: lucysmom (#7)
Martin Luther King was a commie when he worked for freedom for all Americans.
#89. To: lucysmom (#7)
Martin Luther King was a commie when he worked for freedom for all Americans.
#90. To: Godwinson (#13)
America's wealth disparity makes America very USSR like since all the power and wealth resides in the top 1%.
#91. To: Parrot with speed dial (#16)
Communism was supposed to be a better form than religion,
#92. To: go65 (#19)
But because of Obama there are no jobs right?
#93. To: Parrot with speed dial (#20)
so ya,...in the USA,...landowners pushed off because of commie EPA
#94. To: go65 (#25)
Given that we saw more private sector jobs created in the last 12 months than in the 8 years of Bush, facts aren't your friend.
#95. To: Rudgear, go65 (#31)
You really need to stay away from the pages that only tell you what you want to hear.
#96. To: Rudgear (#35)
Solutions include getting rid of the Federal Reserve, securing the border with Mexico, simplifying the tax code, taking government out of education and turning back to the states.
#97. To: Godwinson (#41)
go65 provided a graph proving his point and you guys have not. You lose.
#98. To: Rudgear (#43)
Its the info you left wingers put into them that I object to.
#99. To: Godwinson, *Hypocrisy and Hypocrites* (#45)
That is why you say stuff like "We did quite well for over a 130 years without a central bank" - a truthiness assumption - and not know of these episodes in American history:
#100. To: Godwinson, Capitalist Eric, Rudgear (#55)
We all know your head is empty, Eric.
#101. To: Rudgear (#56)
It's full of DNC talking points, Marxist dogma and outright lies.
#102. To: Godwinson (#45)
(Edited)
these episodes in American history
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill
#103. To: Godwinson (#64)
I am against outsourcing - I think it proves the American business community are traitors who sell out their own people for a buck made in China.
#104. To: lucysmom (#70)
Conservatives ain't what they used to be before neocons infiltrated their ranks.
#105. To: Wood_Chopper, Godwinson (#72)
You suck at what you're attempting to do.
#106. To: Godwinson (#64)
(Edited)
I am against outsourcing
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill
#107. To: Godwinson, Rudgear (#74)
I am not a Democrat.
#108. To: sneakypete (#103)
Why do you spend so much time in angst over what someone else has?
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill
#109. To: sneakypete, All (#107)
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