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Title: Exclusive: US Empire Will Fall Due To Lack Of Faith, Not Finances Or War, Author Warns
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URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/ ... g-washington-author-tells-raw/
Published: Jan 27, 2011
Author: Nathan Diebenow
Post Date: 2011-01-27 12:55:52 by Brian S
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As many in the American empire longingly talk of "recovery" from the most devastating economic condition since the Great Depression, others have begun thinking in a very different direction, urging fellow citizens to prepare for the worst. Dmitry Orlov, author of "Reinventing Collapse: The Soviet Example and American Prospects," is one of the latter. Soon, he told Raw Story in an exclusive interview, Americans will "stop expecting anything of Washington," turning the US into more of a "banana republic" than a super power. Orlov, who witnessed the Soviet Union's collapse from within, lamented that the American empire's condition is so severe there is "absolutely nothing" most can do to keep it alive or hasten its demise. "Basically the people in this country are powerless," he suggested. "So they should probably focus on things closer to home." Orlov, born in born in Leningrad (now known as Saint Petersburg), moved to the United States at age 12 and became an engineer. In his book, he detailed his experiences with the Soviet collapse on numerous visits to Russia in the late 1980s, early 1990s. He covered similarities between the two superpowers in their twilight and suggested ways for Americans to adapt to their new post-empire environment. Amid horrid unemployment and a national deficit soaring past World War II levels, Orlov theorized that the US empire would eventually collapse -- not from finances or war, but from a lack of faith in the system. It would happen over three overlapping stages, he said: financial, political and commercial. "We're fairly far along in the financial collapse trajectory while political collapse has now really only started with the last election," he said. By the next election cycle, Orlov figured, the United States would be in the throes of a "banana republic" such that the voters would exchange one inept political party for another inept political party while expecting different results. While nothing constructive would result from this behavior, he said, the next meaningless shift in 2012 may be the last straw. "That will run its course where people walk away in disgust and stop expecting anything of Washington," he said. Environmental and social catastrophe "People will lose access to various products that they need," Orlov said. Much has already collapsed in the commercial sphere. Vacant strip malls and deserted grocery stores clutter the landscape in many parts of the country. "You also have people whose only source of food is food stamps," he said. "That's becoming predominant in a lot of communities." But let's not fail to mention an overemphasis on military expenditures and unused industrial areas, Orlov insisted, describing them as mis-investments made by both empires. "To this day, the former Soviet Union is littered with abandoned or semi-abandoned industrial sites just as the United States is," he noted. By Orlov's estimation, the US military will never voluntarily quit being the world's largest oil consumer and largest polluter. Moreover, any plans suggested to the military to end its oil dependency in 30 years are an act of "desperation," he said. "They have set their hair on fire and are running around in circles. That's their drill right now," Orlov quipped. But what really seemed to rock the Soviet empire to its foundations, Orlov explained, was devastation of Russia's physical environment as a result of industrialization. The prime example was the nuclear reactor accident in Chernobyl in 1986. To this day, the site continues to produce very high levels of childhood leukemia, cancers and other diseases. "[The Chernobyl accident] caused a great number of people, including people in some positions of authority, especially in the scientific community in Russia, to seriously mistrust the government, and [they] started doing their own research, making their own observations that disquieted them even more," Orlov explained. Former Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev's "glasnost" policy allowed enough truth out to undermine the remaining Soviet authority to the point where those who operated the system lost interest in perpetuating it, Orlov said. While likening the Chernobyl disaster to the Deepwater Horizon accident in the Gulf of Mexico on his blog, Orlov said that he expects no hearts of American leaders to bleed over their destroyed environment any time soon. "I don't see the elite in the United States at quite that level of desperation quite yet -- probably because they are a little bit less attuned to what's going on," he said. "They are a little bit more sheltered from the public at large. But that might change."
As the financial collapse runs its course, Orlov said, people can expect some imports to be cut off. Energy, above all cheap oil, will be the most important import to dry up. Transportation fuels will also become scarce, bringing on the next stage of social collapse: the commercial sphere, he noted.
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#123. To: sneakypete, lucysmom (#104)
sneakypete: Ok,you have finally done it. You have posted a response that is 100% correct. Are you feeling well? It HAD to happen eventually... ;)
"There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." -- go65, LF's answer to Ben Bernanke --
You really are a know-nothing ideologue. Know-nothing. Germany's corporate tax rate is 15%. Ours ranges from 15% to 39.6%. Their individual income tax rate is much less progressive than ours. They have a huge jump in rates (from 14% to 42%) at $52,000 and a tiny increase in rates (from 42% to 45%) at $250,000 ($500,000 for married couples). That's it. American has the highest corporate tax rates in the world. We also have one of the most progressive income tax systems in the world. These are the facts. They are in conflict with your Know-Nothing ideology.
I've been to China (Hong Kong, Beijing, and Shanghai). In many ways, China is more capitalistic than the U.S. In other ways, the system is very arbitrary and non- transparent, especially with regards to foreign companies. Regardless, the government does not interfere on a daily basis with businesses to the same degree that the do here. It's not even close.
Ok you have no examples. Typical liberal.
So you support German socialism then?
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
I posted many examples. Take time to read them. Ignorance is not a virtue.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
You posted a link to someone elses idea. Are you not capable of debating and coming up something yourself? Propaganda isn't an example.
I absolutely support cutting U.S. corporate tax rates in half so we can be competitive with Germany and China.
I posted several links to books on the subject. You need to read.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Are you now pro labor union and 'socialized' health care along German lines? I came on here arguing for the superiority of the German social market and now you agree with me. Face it, America's business philosophy, capitalism, health care system, militarism is all inferior to the social market model. Some more German tax info - and Germany can export manufacturing at record levels with all these taxes and with powerful trade unions in the mix. So what's America's excuse? Your thesis that the American worker unionizing is not the reason American businesses are moving over seas- greed is. Your thesis that taxes and regulations are the reasons America businesses are leaving is correct - but they are doing so because America's rich owners are greedy bastards and traitors to her people who unlike the Germans - care more about stuffing their portfolios than making their country strong. You Republican filth carry their water for them under this stupid philosophy that greed is good and if Americans live like wage slaves then the business masters may throw us unworthy serfs a bone. Can you water carriers for the oligarchs explain how Germany can be an exporting power house, while maintaining universal health care, an active labor union, and no banking crisis by doing things the opposite of what Rush Limbough champions? The rate of income tax in Germany ranges from 0% to 45%. The German income tax is a progressive tax, As of 1 January 2008, Germany’s corporation tax rate is 15%. Counting both the solidarity surcharge (5.5% of corporation tax) and trade tax (averaging 14% as of 2008), tax on corporations in Germany is just below 30%. On top of income tax, the so-called solidarity surcharge (Solidaritaetszuschlag) is levied at a rate of 5.5% of the income tax for higher incomes. Up to €972 (€1,944 for married couples) annual income tax, no solidarity surcharge is levied. Above this threshold, the solidarity surcharge rate increases continuously until it reaches 5.5% when the annual income tax is €1,340.69 (€2,681.38 for married couples). When dividends are paid to an individual person, capital yield tax at a rate of 25% is charged. Since 1 January 2009, this tax is final for individuals who are residents of Germany. Solidarity surcharge is also imposed on capital yields tax. Entrepreneurs engaging in business operations are subject to trade tax as well as income tax/corporation tax. In contrast to the latter, trade tax is charged by the local authorities, who are entitled to the entire amount. The rate levied is fixed by each local authority separately within the range of rates prescribed by the central government. As from 1 January 2008, the rate averages 14% of profits subject to trade tax.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Don't be stupid. We are here to debate not you to hand out reading assignments because you talked shit and can't back it up.
U.S. States levy corporate income taxes as well -- as much as 12%. The fact remains that federal corporate income taxes in Germany are 15%. They are 39.6% in the U.S. Both countries also levy corporate taxes at the provincial level as well. The U.S. has the highest corporate tax rates in the world. We also have the most progressive tax system on individuals. Know-nothing leftists like you don't get it.
We would need the same reference points to debate. I find the right wing hates learning.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
What I find funny is you types screaming about socialist Europe and now I tricked you into admitting Socialist Europe is superior. Because as you remember I came on here first and openly declared the European social market model (Christian democracy) to be superior. And now you agree you want to copy 'socialist' Germany. Thank you. That was very gratifying.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
You're a real hoot. What's really happened here is that I showed you that as Europe (and the entire rest of the world) have been moving towards lower taxes and markets while the U.S. continues to lurch towards socialism. The U.S. now has the highest corporate income rates in the world and the most progressive tax system. You know-nothing leftists just don't get it. You have this mental image of Sweden in the 1970s which is no longer true. You continue to push for policies in the U.S. that the Swedes, Germans, Chinese, Russians and just about everyone else has rejected. It's time to grow up and face reality.
The US is more socialist now than Europe? LOL! You right wingers are a hoot.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Don't blame me if you can't deal with the truth.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
You,you,AGEIST,YOU! I'm going to have big brother gubbermint arrest you for non-PC talk.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
You can't even get THAT right! Have you ever been right about anything? After swapping massacres with the British,they PAID my people to leave eastern NC in the early 1700's. I bet the next thing you come up with is the white man is responsible for slavery.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
And it makes you jealous beyond all belief. So jealous,you want to use the power of government to steal it back. And the whole time the dirty little truth is you wish you had the balls to steal on your own instead of having the government do your stealing for you?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Yes.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Then why do you keep bragging about it?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Pete, I picked up one of these today, still has original leather strap, for $200.00.
OK, I won't feel sorry for you, I promise!
Actually, that isn't true and either you know it or YOU are the one that is ignorant. Germany's corporate tax rate averages 29.8%; the US, 35%. India's corporate tax rate is 33.2175%, and Japan's rate is 40.69%. As for "most progressive tax system on individuals" - you must mean something other than I think you mean because that isn't even close to being true. Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
If it's got a good bore and the headspace checks out,you got a hell of a deal. BTW,don't assume just because the bolt and the receiver have the same serial number (if they do) that the headspace is correct. Get it checked by a competent gunsmith before trying to fire it.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Good. I don't need it and don't want it.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
They do. Get it checked by a competent gunsmith before trying to fire it. Definitely.
Correction: Serial numbers on the bolt and receiver DO NOT match. It appears I have 1 serial number on the receiver, a different one on the bolt, a third on the safety and a fourth on the stock. According to this site: www.mauser98k.internetdsl.pl/kodyen.html the receiver, at least, is a byf 43 manufactured in 1943 by Mauser Oberndorf. Damn. Still, it should be fun to own and shoot, after it's checked out. I know the stock is laminate and has been sanded.
It appears that with the number stamp on the stock it may have been a Russian capture?
It appears I have 1 serial number on the receiver, a different one on the bolt, a third on the safety and a fourth on the stock. That's more common than not. When the Germans lost the wars their weapons were disassembled and parts stored in different places. When they came up for surplus sale the bulk buyers bought them by the case and barrels (literally barrels,not rifle barrels) after bidding by pound per container,and had guys sitting around in their warehouses with "field" gauges matching bolts to receivers with no regard whatsoever for matching numbers. One other thing you really need to watch with surplus military weapons. You need to check firing pin protrusion. The military does a LOT of dry-firing to prove the weapons are unloaded and safe,and when you do this to excess the firing pins tend to "grow" longer. I have even seen some that had the firing pin hole in the bolt face enlarged to the point where it had to be bushed.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Germany's corporate tax rate averages 29.8%; the US, 35%. India's corporate tax rate is 33.2175%, and Japan's rate is 40.69%. Look at the chart you linked to. What does it say? 2005. Germany's corporate tax rate was cut to 15% in 2008. Japan's corporate tax rate was cut to 30% in 2009. In addition, OECD made it very clear in 2008 that the U.S. has the most progressive tax system in the world. Do you even know what "progressive taxes" mean? Given that I posted the data from OECD and you still huff and puff, it's obvious that you don't have a clue. I've told you this many times before -- you can't just quickly Google something and expect to come up with the right answer. You either the subject matter or you don't. You just don't. I do know the subject matter. Unlike you, I'm a numbers person, not an ideologue. I don't posts things that aren't factually correct.
Self-described "progressives" don't even know what "progressive" means in the political context. It's a code word for "communist",and they will deny it with their dying breath because they just can't bear to face the truth.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
The World's Highest Corporate Tax Rates 2010 5. Germany Combined Corporate Income Tax Rate: 30.18% Last Three Rate Changes 2. United States Combined Corporate Income Tax Rate: 39.21% Recent Rate Changes 1. Japan Combined Corporate Income Tax Rate: 39.54% Last Three Rate Changes www.cnbc.com/id/30727913/...te_Tax_Rates_2010?slide=1 The tax rates listed here are “combined corporate income tax rates,” a number that includes both national and local levies. When you state the US corporate tax rate as 39.6%, you are providing a “combined corporate income tax rate” as stated above. The federal corporate income tax rate is 35% (statutory), and around 25-27% (effective).
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
jwpegler is kind of proves that the right wing talking points on Europe and their evil "socialism" is in fact bogus to the point they get caught praising Germany's system when before they can be attacking it as 'socialist'.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
It must be very confusing for them.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
It must be very confusing for them. Not only is it confusing to these so called "conservatives" it is down right anti-American because they don't take the side of the American worker. They take the side of the corporation which cares little about the USA. They defend the corporation/business entity for killing American jobs over a couple of % of profit, their position states that the laws of the USA are worse than the laws of despotic China. Their position advocates for working conditions in America to be as hellish as they are in Red China. Why? Because the business community wants it that way and thus we should all live like slaves in third world countries. They advocate for the pollution of land, they advocate for the breaking of unions so there can be no ability for a worker to redress a wrong done to him. They want tyranny. They are in fact TRAITORS to their fellow Americans. Up to what point will they say that the corporation/business communities demands have gone too much? These so called American "conservatives" are the direct enemy of traditional true conservative ideology as practiced by the Christian democratic political movement. They are in fact the scum of the earth, anti-christs in fact, and should be treated as such.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
They like free trade and open borders too. 3.4 Free Trade and Migration We support the removal of governmental impediments to free trade. Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders. http://www.lp.org/platform If you can't bring the jobs to the cheap labor than you can bring cheap labor to the jobs.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
I think if I had to pick just one word to best describe you,it would be "delusional".
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
You have a serious reading comprehension problem. You think Europe is stuck in the 1970s. It's not. They are backing away from their socialist programs while we are RUSHING headlong toward socialism in the U.S. Germany LOWERED their corporate tax rates two years ago. Germany is CUTTING government spending. TODAY, Germany has LOWER corporate tax rates than the U.S. TODAY, Germany has a far LESS progressive tax system than the U.S. However, the AVERAGE German individual (not corporations) pays higher taxes than their U.S. counterparts BECAUSE they reach almost their top tax rate at $52,000 in income. In other words, the U.S. SOAKS THE RICH while Germany SOAKS the Middle class. OVERALL Germany DOES NOT have a freer economy than the U.S., largely because of Hitler-era labor laws. However, Switzerland DOES. CLEAR?
5. Germany -- Combined Corporate Income Tax Rate: 30.18% Combined = federal and state together. 2. United States -- Combined Corporate Income Tax Rate: 39.21% That's the FEDERAL corporate tax rates. States levy corporate taxes as well. Most are between 6% and 10%. Iowa's is 12%. But you can deduct states taxes from your income before applying the corporate rate, so you can't just add the corporate rate and state rate to come up with the total. I will research the Japanese numbers some more. The Japanese economy has been in a rolling recession since the early 1900s. Regardless of whether the U.S. has the highest or second highest corporate tax rates in the world, it's still a huge problem. Let's look at other corporate tax rates: Sweden -- 28%; U.K. -- 28%; Italy -- 27%; South Korea - 27%; Finland - 26%; Netherlands - 25%; Austria - 25%; Denmark - 25%; Switzerland - 21%; The U.S. needs to slice it's corporate tax rates in half.
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#124. To: Godwinson (#120)
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What lies. We have more taxes and regulations that Western Europe? - than Germany they are still an exporting powerhouse?
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill
#125. To: Godwinson (#120)
We have more regulation than Communist China?
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill
#126. To: Godwinson (#121)
#127. To: jwpegler (#124)
Germany's corporate tax rate is 15%
#128. To: A K A Stone (#126)
#129. To: Godwinson (#128)
#130. To: Godwinson (#127)
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Germany's corporate tax rate is 15%...
So you support German socialism then?
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill
#131. To: A K A Stone (#129)
You posted a link to someone elses idea.
#132. To: jwpegler, go65, lucysmom, Brian S, (#130)
Germany's corporate tax rate is 15%... So you support German socialism then? I absolutely support cutting U.S. corporate tax rates in half so we can be competitive with Germany and China.
#133. To: Godwinson (#131)
#134. To: Godwinson (#132)
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trade tax is charged by the local authorities... As from 1 January 2008, the rate averages 14% of profits subject to trade tax.
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill
#135. To: A K A Stone (#133)
Don't be stupid. We are here to debate not you to hand out reading assignments because you talked shit and can't back it up.
#136. To: jwpegler, A K A Stone, go65, lucysmom (#134)
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The U.S. has the highest corporate tax rates in the world. We also have the most progressive tax system on individuals. Know-nothing leftists like you don't get it.
#137. To: Godwinson (#136)
tricked you into admitting Socialist Europe is superior.
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill
#138. To: jwpegler (#137)
What's really happened here is that I showed you that as Europe (and the entire rest of the world) have been moving towards lower taxes and markets while the U.S. continues to lurch towards socialism. The U.S. now has the highest corporate income rates in the world and the most progressive tax system.
#139. To: Godwinson (#114)
Mike, tell your kook friend Pete to take his old people meds. If there was any reason to think I misjudged Pete - that is gone.
#140. To: Godwinson (#115)
I don't comprend old people kook talk, pete. After you take your old people meds try replying again and I can figure out what your saying.
#141. To: Godwinson (#117)
You can see from the list that is not true - what may have eased the other economic downturns was the availability of free land we killed the Indians for.
#142. To: Godwinson (#118)
Because the rich STOLE their new wealth.
#143. To: Godwinson (#120)
We have more regulation than Communist China? Japan?
#144. To: Godwinson (#128)
Ignorance is not a virtue.
#145. To: sneakypete (#144)
#146. To: sneakypete (#97)
Are we supposed to feel sorry for the typical lower 6 figure income American working family because some other family earns 10 or more times as much?
#147. To: jwpegler, Godwinson (#134)
The U.S. has the highest corporate tax rates in the world. We also have the most progressive tax system on individuals. Know-nothing leftists like you don't get it.
#148. To: We The People (#145)
#149. To: meguro (#146)
OK, I won't feel sorry for you, I promise!
#150. To: sneakypete (#148)
BTW,don't assume just because the bolt and the receiver have the same serial number (if they do) that the headspace is correct.
#151. To: sneakypete (#148)
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#152. To: sneakypete (#148)
#153. To: We The People (#151)
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Correction: Serial numbers on the bolt and receiver DO NOT match.
#154. To: lucysmom, We The People, sneakypete, Godwinson (#147)
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Actually, that isn't true and either you know it or YOU are the one that is ignorant.
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill
#155. To: jwpegler, lucysmom, We The People, sneakypete, Godwinson (#154)
Do you even know what "progressive taxes" mean?
#156. To: jwpegler (#154)
Germany's corporate tax rate was cut to 15% in 2008. Japan's corporate tax rate was cut to 30% in 2009.
Current rate in place since: 2008
2010 forecasted GDP growth: +1.4%
2008: Reduced to 30.18%
2004: Reduced to 38.9%
2003: Raised to 40.2% from 38.9%, a rate in place since 2001.
Current rate in place since: 2008
2010 forecasted GDP growth: +3.3%
Rates have fluctuated within the narrow range of 39.25% and 39.44% since 1998.
The largest year-over-year changes since 1981 were 1986-1987 (49.8% to 44.2%) and 1987-1988 (44.2% to 38.6%).
Current rate in place since: 2004
2010 forecasted GDP growth: +2.4%
2004: Reduced to 39.54%
1999: Reduced to 40.9%
1998: Reduced to 46.4% from 50%, a rate in place since 1990.*
#157. To: lucysmom, jwpegler (#156)
#158. To: Godwinson (#157)
jwpegler is kind of proves that the right wing talking points on Europe and their evil "socialism" is in fact bogus to the point they get caught praising Germany's system when before they can be attacking it as 'socialist'.
#159. To: lucysmom, jwpegler, sneakypete, A K A Stone, go65 (#158)
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jwpegler is kind of proves that the right wing talking points on Europe and their evil "socialism" is in fact bogus to the point they get caught praising Germany's system when before they can be attacking it as 'socialist'.
#160. To: Godwinson (#159)
Well, that is not a hypothetical question because I know for a fact that libertarian theorists call for slavery to be legal.
#161. To: Godwinson (#159)
#162. To: Godwinson (#157)
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jwpegler is kind of proves that the right wing talking points on Europe and their evil "socialism" is in fact bogus to the point they get caught praising Germany's system when before they can be attacking it as 'socialist'.
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill
#163. To: lucysmom (#156)
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Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill
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