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Title: More "Cimate Change" Bullshit Debunked
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/en ... imate-change-report-finds.html
Published: Jan 27, 2011
Author: Dean Nelson
Post Date: 2011-01-27 11:06:21 by no gnu taxes
Keywords: None
Views: 2772
Comments: 5

Himalayan glaciers are actually advancing rather than retreating, claims the first major study since a controversial UN report said they would be melted within quarter of a century.

Researchers have discovered that contrary to popular belief half of the ice flows in the Karakoram range of the mountains are actually growing rather than shrinking.

The discovery adds a new twist to the row over whether global warming is causing the world's highest mountain range to lose its ice cover.

It further challenges claims made in a 2007 report by the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change that the glaciers would be gone by 2035.

Although the head of the panel Dr Rajendra Pachauri later admitted the claim was an error gleaned from unchecked research, he maintained that global warming was melting the glaciers at "a rapid rate", threatening floods throughout north India.

The new study by scientists at the Universities of California and Potsdam has found that half of the glaciers in the Karakoram range, in the northwestern Himlaya, are in fact advancing and that global warming is not the deciding factor in whether a glacier survives or melts.

Dr Bodo Bookhagen, Dirk Scherler and Manfred Strecker studied 286 glaciers between the Hindu Kush on the Afghan-Pakistan border to Bhutan, taking in six areas.

Their report, published in the journal Nature Geoscience, found the key factor affecting their advance or retreat is the amount of debris – rocks and mud – strewn on their surface, not the general nature of climate change.

Glaciers surrounded by high mountains and covered with more than two centimetres of debris are protected from melting.

Debris-covered glaciers are common in the rugged central Himalaya, but they are almost absent in subdued landscapes on the Tibetan Plateau, where retreat rates are higher.

In contrast, more than 50 per cent of observed glaciers in the Karakoram region in the northwestern Himalaya are advancing or stable.

"Our study shows that there is no uniform response of Himalayan glaciers to climate change and highlights the importance of debris cover for understanding glacier retreat, an effect that has so far been neglected in predictions of future water availability or global sea level," the authors concluded.

Dr Bookhagen said their report had shown "there is no stereotypical Himalayan glacier" in contrast to the UN's climate change report which, he said, "lumps all Himalayan glaciers together."

Dr Pachauri, head of the Nobel prize-winning UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, has remained silent on the matter since he was forced to admit his report's claim that the Himalayan glaciers would melt by 2035 was an error and had not been sourced from a peer-reviewed scientific journal. It came from a World Wildlife Fund report.

He angered India's environment minister and the country's leading glaciologist when he attacked those who questioned his claim as purveyors of "voodoo science".

The environment Minister Jairam Ramesh had cited research indicating some Himalayan glaciers were advancing in the face of the UN's claim.

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#1. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

exxon heritage koch Dr Bodo Bookhagen, Dirk Scherler and Manfred Strecker

1/2 way around the world as Truth gets it's pants on. LMFAO

Waiting to find out which of the following do the financing: exxon heritage koch

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1. Tibet's Glaciers Rapidly Melting, Raising Mekong River Levels ... Jan 20, 2011 ... Tibet's Glaciers Rapidly Melting, Raising Mekong River Levels - Asahi. www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az...all... - Cached

Himalayan Glacier Melt: The Real Problem – Water Matters - State ... Jun 14, 2010 ... Lets start with: The Himalayan Glacier Melt. ... The Yangtze River and the Mekong River plains are equally vulnerable, so one could identify ... blogs.ei.columbia.edu/.../himalayan-glacier-melt-the-real-problem/ - Cached

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-27   11:24:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: no gnu taxes (#0) (Edited)

Himalayan glaciers are actually advancing rather than retreating, claims the first major study since a controversial UN report said they would be melted within quarter of a century.

What the study actually said:

http://www.justmeans.com/press-releases/Glaciers-largely-stable-in-one-range-of- Himalayas/6666.html

An important portion of the Himalaya's glacier cover is currently stable and, thanks to an insulating layer of debris, may be even growing, a new study finds.

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That's not to imply that water reservoirs on what's often called the roof of the world aren't under stress. Throughout most Himalayan ranges, roughly 65 percent of the studied glaciers were shrinking, Dirk Scherler of the University of Potsdam, Germany, and his colleagues report in the January 23 Nature Geoscience. But in Karakoram, 58 percent of studied glaciers were stable or slowly expanding up to 12 meters per year.

Again, when you have to spin or flat out lie to make your point, you have no point.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-01-27   11:36:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: mcgowanjm, no gnu taxes (#1)

This is typical NGT BS, here's another take:

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE70M1RC20110123

(Reuters) - Some Himalayan glaciers are advancing despite an overall retreat, according to a study on Sunday that is a step toward understanding how climate change affects vital river flows from China to India.

A blanket of dust and rock debris was apparently shielding some glaciers in the world's highest mountain range from a thaw, a factor omitted from past global warming reports. And varying wind patterns might explain why some were defying a melt.

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"Overall in the Himalayas, the glaciers are retreating," Dirk Scherler, the lead author at the University of Potsdam in Germany, told Reuters.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-01-27   11:40:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: go65 (#3)

Here's what will happen.

I'll find the exact data on how the himalayas/Mt everest are melting away.

But I'll have to 'force it' in because we'll be discussing another 'Monckton Moment'.

A(seemingly cause Tipping Point is pst;} forever shifting target financed by Exxon Heritage AIPAC Koch Bro's.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-27   11:49:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#4)

It’s the head-exploding headline of the month from down under. Bloomberg reports:

Australia to Cut, Delay $500 Million of Clean-Energy Funding After Floods

In this country, ABC News explained “Raging Waters In Australia and Brazil Product of Global Warming.”

The Australian government’s own Bureau of Meteorology released data showing that the warmest sea surface temperatures on record were fueling floods called ‘biblical’ — floods covering an area “the size of France and Germany combined.”

But in the most counterproductive decision imaginable, “to help pay for reconstruction after the nation’s worst floods,” the government is cutting funding for clean energy programs including solar energy and green cars:

We're yeast. What else would you expect with 90 degree water, flour, sugar. We don't have a stop button.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-27   11:51:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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