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Title: OBAMA HIT A HOME RUN!
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Published: Jan 25, 2011
Author: just sayin
Post Date: 2011-01-25 21:35:45 by no gnu taxes
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Ain't watching that crap. Just reporting beforehand what the MSM reaction will be.
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#175. To: Ferret Mike, Godwinson (#161)
Yup. No matter how much he tries to sugar coat it,that's what he and some of the others were and are demanding.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
You know full well I am making fun of social conservatives who claim there is no separation of church and state. No,I didn't. I believe atheist Thomas Jefferson would be a Christian democrat if he lived in Europe or a social democrat. I believe he would move to America. We have a Bill of Rights here,and he was a man that knew a little something about that sort of thing. I feel the current conservative ideology within America's 2 party oligarchy is bat shit crazy. I don't believe they are even conservatives. They are neo-cons,which means fascists dressed in designer suits instead of leather. I do agree the smartest of them are batshit crazy,though. IMHO,the typical neo-con foot soldier is so freaking stupid they barely comprehend complex thoughts like "water....wet". Of course,they share this trait with their socialist neo-commie brothers. They make no sense. They are not based on rationality, empirical evidence and their thinking is emotional rather than logical and appeals to regional/identity/tribal politics Once again,like their neo-commie socialist brothers,their whole philosophy is based on "Me,me,ME,DAMMIT!". In other words,selfish self-interest and greed. They think if they follow the party line somebody is going to give them something. so I adopted a conservative ideology based on the traditional history of my ancestors. Uhhhhhh,ok.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
That's the way I saw it,too. Some may argue over French socialism being better than German socialism,and they think that is open-minded debate and they are visionaries emitting profound thoughts. It's a collective.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
The new bus was really Ken's pride and joy. Unlike the old one that was kept running on a shoestring budget, and created commotion, excitement, and was the vehicle of discovery and adventure, the new one is very immaculate and has a car show attention to detail for beauty, function, and is as close to new condition running as you can get a bus like that. The Keseys own a preforming arts venue in downtown Eugene a block from Ken's statue. The wake was there, and the new Further was the vehicle his body rode in when he laid in state. I went to the wake, and it brought tears to everyone's eyes to see that coffin on the back deck of Further as she drove slowly into and out of town to go back to Ken's farm. She was at the Further shows last summer, Further being the name of the latest Grateful Dead band incarnation. It is a venerated and respected vehicle here in Eugene and much of Oregon and is well loved and very well taken care of. Memorial article with pictures, Remembering Ken Kesey 1935-2001
All of these posters I believe started out at Libertypost and then moved on to other "Neil McIver" sites. The common theme among them at Libertypost was pretty much just "Bush sucks" which they shared with a lot of so called "paleo" conservatives, so it was hard to tell what anyone really believed at that time. Absent Bush, it's a lot clearer what these loons believe and they have pretty much filtered into their element, and they want to keep their .
Kesey lived just a few ridges to the East of us, about 20 miles away. I saw him countless times about town and at events over the past 20-plus years I've been here. When I would bump into him on the way to the bank or store when we lived just a few miles apart, he was never in too much of a hurry to stop and exchange a few words. His mastery of word crafting was always at the ready. The first time we crossed paths was backstage after a Dead show outdoors in rural Oregon in '82. Mingling in the afterglow of a great day, my simple greeting led to Kesey spinning a 10 minute thought provoking tale about a frog and a muskrat. I wish like hell I could remember it now. Ken's family here in Eugene has a vast presence as well as past. They moved here to live on his grandparents' farm in 1943, when he was eight years old. While attending the University of Oregon, where he became a star wrestler, he married his high school sweetheart, Faye Haxby, in 1956. Receiving a literary fellowship to Stanford, Kesey would then embark on a four year whirlwind that would produce the cornerstone of his most affective contributions to the changing and expanding face of America. After volunteering for LSD experimentation at Stanford in '61 and '62, he completed his first novel, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Published in '62, the novel struck a nerve at the core of our society by serving as a wake up call on a nation stirring out of a long slumber, challenging the predisposed norms and the terms of sanity. In '64, Kesey's second novel, Sometimes a Great Notion, was published. A sprawling, ambitious work immediately heralded as a great American classic, Kesey had brought to life with his vividly captivating descriptions a unique, mystical land called Oregon, whose harsh and unrelenting nature shapes the tough and original members of the Stamper's, a rural logging family in the 30s. That same year he had banded together some fellow LSD experimenters, called them the Merry Pranksters, and set out on the road as a traveling psychedelic show in a rainbow day-glo 1939 International bus called "Further," which he bought with earnings from Cuckoo's Nest. A notorious adventure of LSD-induced fun and chaos ensued as they pranked their way through America, forever immortalized in Tom Wolfe's book, The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test. At that time, the relatively unknown Grateful Dead became the house band for the Pranksters, and they maintained friendships throughout the years. In 1968 Ken moved back to Oregon and a rural farm south of Eugene, where he turned a huge barn into a large rambling house, raised a family, worked the land, raised cattle and immersed himself in the community. Ken Babbs, fellow Prankster and lifelong friend, lived nearby, and together they collaborated on Prankster adventures over the years. Ken's brother, Chuck, and his family founded and still run the successful Springfield Creamery, as well as operating a retail natural food store in Springfield until the mid 80s. Kit Kesey, Ken's nephew, has been a concert and video producer over the years, and in recent months took over the McDonald Theater in downtown Eugene and refurbished it as a live music venue. Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters recently performed there at a benefit in October. The last time I saw Ken was in early September, the night he introduced Taj Mahal at the grand opening of the theater, while I was shooting the event. Kesey contributed immensely to raising the bar in challenging the status quo to re-examine, renew, and embrace such fundamental American terms as "freedom," and "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness," and to live them. He was full of stories, bigger than life, yet casually present, a ruggedly independent individual, who contributed endlessly to family and community, and the celebration of life. As one of Americas most affecting and colorful modern pioneers, he was truly a great American hero. Always ready to take a playful poke or a chastising swipe when he smelled bullshit, regardless of where it came from, he was never mean spirited. His approach to life was not from an adversarial or confrontational stance, but an offering of goodwill. Ken's creativity wasn't limited to his immense depth as a writer. He continually sought new theatrical vehicles and happenings to relay his message, whatever it may be. You might be listening to him read a new children's book and tell stories, in full shaman's garb on the steps of the library, or hearing him recite his heart-felt tribute to Jerry Garcia, or watching him belt out "Gloria," with Kool-Aid jug in hand, wearing a U.S. flag suit and top hat, backed by Bob Weir, Jack and Jorma. For a production of his children’s story, Little Tricker the Squirrel Meets Big Double the Bear, Kesey collaborated with the Eugene Ballet, with music by Art Maddox and sound effects provided by Kesey’s whimsical invention, The Thunder Machine. Ken’s generosity and compassion came across in many ways. He often teamed up with musician and friend Mason Williams for Mason’s annual Christmas show with the Eugene and Portland Symphonies. A few years back in Portland, Kesey showed up on stage in the role of a street Santa. A down and out alcoholic with a pint in his pocket. Directing members of a choir into the audience to collect money for the poor, he and Mason were able to hand out over $6,000 to homeless street people. The shocked symphony was reluctant to have Kesey return the next night, but rather than more antics, he delivered a wonderful reading of St. Matthew's Christmas Story. Sharing this valley and this community with Kesey has always been somehow comforting, being part in some sense of the continuing adventure, swept along just a little "further". His absence will leave a gaping hole around here, way bigger than you could drive a bus through. The world, as it is, will be a scarier place without him and his sometimes flamboyant but always thought provoking escapades. His life was honored in a solemn and celebratory memorial service at the McDonald Theatre, drawing a full house that filled the lobby and spilled out onto the street, where admirers milled about the psychedelic bus waiting to take him on a last ride home to his resting place. With Kesey’s rainbow marbled casket center stage, speakers included his career-long literary agent, Sterling Lord, University of Oregon President Dave Frohnmeyer, musician Mason Williams (who spoke and performed) and close friend and fellow Prankster Ken Babbs. Zane, his son provided various video clips of Ken at home and performing that brought smiles, laughter and tears. As the bus carrying Ken Kesey pulled out of sight, the clouds parted and a brief glimpse of a rainbow lit the sky. Farewell, my friend. " The answer is never the answer. What's really interesting is the mystery. If you seek the mystery instead of the answer, you'll always be seeking. I've never seen anybody really find the answer -- they think they have, so they stop thinking. But the job is to seek mystery, evoke mystery, plant a garden in which strange plants grow and mysteries bloom. The need for mystery is greater than the need for an answer." --Ken Kesey (C) Article and Photos by Tim Owen The Article was hard to read, at least on my laptop so as cutting and pasting pulled the hidden text from behind the black framing blocking it, here is a reposting of it. Ken lying in state at his memorial wake.
More sneakypete racialism based on nutso false reality. America is a police state with more people in prison than Russia or China combined - both on a per gross and per capita basis. "Land of the free"? More like "land of the jailed". So you can act like Europeans are less free because of some law against racial hate crimes they have but you can't over look the fact that they have less people in prison than the supposedly free bill of rights loving USA.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Just because you guys are used to the LP echo chamber you assume dissent is spam. If that is how smart you are and you can't defend your positions - then you are nothings and are posting where you belong, on this overtly racists, paranoid delusional forum of kooks. Stay here in the filth with the rest of the swine.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Jefferson liked Revolutionary France a lot and hated Hamilton's vision of America - the vision of America that won out over his vision.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
LOL! Hilarious.
I'm on TPF, Smirking Chimp, DU, KOS, this place and a few more. I don't have any one forum I 'live' at. Not to mention you lecture about name calling and here you are name calling. This place has problems, but every theater that is the vessel of the drama of human life has it's problems. This issue had been resolved and healing before you jumped back in to bait it on up to controversy level once more. Grow up.
You're confusing "dissent" with "insanity," aren't you?
Wow. The flying monkey has dubbed thee a special kind of "racialism." I'm jealous.
To have dissent is insane? Do insane tea baggers know they are insane?
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Yea, Pete was off on a tear a while ago about a black woman retired from the military being buried in Arlington Cemetary. Real kooky racist stuff when he was posting on LP.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Ok,so they weren't all bad. Absent Bush, it's a lot clearer what these loons believe and they have pretty much filtered into their element, and they want to keep their . Yup,they have formed a collective.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
This forum deserves it. This place is a cesspool.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Are you suggesting "assault and battery," "rape," "murder," and "B & E" be downgraded to "misdemeanor" in the U.S.? Or are you endorsing total chaos? You should just be happy the Indonesian-Kenyan with the fake SS's# isn't in jail.
Wow, a conservative who trusts the govt with nothing except on crime and punishment? http://www.nolanchart.com/article3237.html Non-Violent Offenses Leads United States to World's Highest Incarceration Rate The United States has the highest incarceration rate amongst any country in the world, including China, Iran, Russia or any other socialistic country. Of every 99 people in America, 1 of them is in jail. Is America really a violent nation? In 2004, over half of the prisoners in state prisons were held for non-violent crime. This equals 640,000 non-violent crimes, 250,000 of which were for drug offenses. In Maryland, almost 70% of inmates are in jail for drug offences according to the Baltimore Sun. According to White House statistics nearly 40% of Americans have tried marijuana. Ninety- seven million people would be a lot of people to lock up. The problem with illegal drugs is the weakness of human nature. Everyone has vices, such as food, gambling, video games, tobacco, alcohol, and sex. How do you decide which vices are good and which are bad? Yearly deaths from alcohol and tobacco are 150,000 and 430,000 respectively. Illegal drugs, on the other hand, are estimated to have killed 28,000 people.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
That's a common question I'm sure you've asked many times at asylums. Do insane tea baggers know they are insane? Thank you for an already insane discussion. You must have the cutest little moonbat ears.
Got a link so we can judge for ourselves? You are showing that you indeed were not about prompting Pete like he was incapable of understanding forum culture and how to comport himself in it to allegedly 'reform' him well enough to be at TPF. Now you are in full blown character assassination mode. And what was that again about how people here are swine and this venue a dive bar full of racism and hate? Before you criticize others, don't be guilty of the same things you whine about.
Hearing reality rather than tea bag myths must be a crazy experiance for you.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
What's a tare? The would is close to "tar." As in "tar-baby." Racist.
It's the myth that keeps getting bigger and BIGGER! Better watch out that tea bag doesn't explode!! BOO!!
•an adjustment made for the weight of the packaging in order to determine the net weight of the goods •any of several weedy vetches grown for forage •darnel: weedy annual grass often occurs in grainfields and other cultivated land; seeds sometimes considered poisonous •the weight of a motor vehicle, railroad car, or aircraft without its fuel or cargo •(chemical analysis) a counterweight used in chemical analysis; consists of an empty container that counterbalances the weight of the container holding chemicals
I think part of the problem is the inability to hear dissent without that knee-jerk thing happening and assuming the dissenter is towing some imaginary party line. As an example, this morning I was told that I thought it was a good idea to nationalize the private sector, increase welfare benefits, and prop up government. I don't even know what propping up government means. I asked but got no answer.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
Aaaah, NOW we get the gist of your whining. What we got here is... A damn, long-haired/now bald pot smokin' 60 year-old hippie! I thought you dinosaurs were nearly EXTINCT! How many times has your azz seen jail? P.S. - Power to da Peepuls!
Thanks, but I don't believe the bald, crazy, old dirty hippie's context was as you've defined "tare."
Not that you are being overly judgmental or anything like that.
What happens when they drown government in the bathtub?
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
You are right, it was a typo obviously. I was just engaging in some dry humor at his expense.
I have never been in jail and in superior Europe few people are. In America, one out of 100 are felons and in most cases that loses them the right to vote for life. America sucks like that.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
You set that up beautifully. ;-)
Since the govt is "We The People" I assume they commit suicide.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Wow, you got me on a typo! I will try and get you guys on general tea bag douchery.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
How do you know, Sybil? In America, one out of 100 are felons and in most cases that loses them the right to vote for life. America sucks like that. So you're a "pro-felon" militant?
I am totally judgmental.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
I am just showing you that America has more people in jail than Red China does or Islamic Iran. In other words, how much America is not free, and how much it sucks to live there, i.e. not the greatest, freedom loving land on earth these days. It is clear "God did not shine his grace on thee" after all.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
So you're a "pro-felon" militant? Kind of nullifies the idea that one's debt to society is paid when his sentence is served, doesn't it? I believe that voting rights are restored in most states.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
Super point considering this contrived tempest in a teapot he has started is a real time and energy waste. Here is a man waxing condescendingly about this forum lauding TPF's superior qualities to focus on and discuss issues and events in the news. And at the same time he's here in this thread wasting everyone's time with a dog and pony show derived from a minor point about someone getting in TPF. Ironic, isn't it?
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestIn other words, shut the fuck up, you condescending idiot.
#176. To: Godwinson (#162)
Yup,those GOP right-wingers that wrote the US Constitution.
#177. To: no gnu taxes, lucysmom (#167)
Every single poster on that site parrots the same left wing kookery. No dissension is allowed.
#178. To: sneakypete (#172)
#179. To: sneakypete (#177)
#180. To: sneakypete (#172)
Saturday, November 10th, 2001 marks a day of mourning and reflection here in Eugene, as we deal with the passing of our friend Ken Kesey, author, storyteller, cultural pioneer, innerspace astronaut, family man and salt of the Oregon earth. A day as typically Oregon-beautiful as I've seen; warm, hazy sun, not the slightest stir of a breeze, upper 60s, a myriad of stunning cloud patterns floating ever so slowly across the sky... but the quiet stillness, the pastel colors against the glittering greens of the tree covered rolling foothills; an unmistakable omni-presence of magic, of energy release, of peace, of joy.
#181. To: sneakypete, Ferret Mike (#174)
I guess you are unaware of the Rev-Rund Sharpton going to prisons in Florida to register voters in the last two elections?
#182. To: no gnu taxes, Ferret Mike, sneakypete, lucysmom (#164)
Robin would have kept spamming him with her leftard propaganda presented as fact, while others would have kept accusing him of being a Limbaugh shill until Robin finally would have banned him for refusing to be properly "re-educated."
#183. To: sneakypete (#176)
I believe he would move to America.
#184. To: sneakypete (#111)
I called her Jim Robin when she restricted me to only 3 posts a day for unapproved thought.
#185. To: Godwinson (#182)
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#186. To: Godwinson (#182)
Just because you guys are used to the LP echo chamber you assume dissent is spam.
#187. To: sneakypete, Godwinson (#181)
sneakypete racialism
#188. To: Liberator (#186)
You're confusing "dissent" with "insanity," aren't you?
#189. To: sneakypete, Liberator (#187)
(Edited)
Wow. The flying monkey has dubbed thee a special kind of "racialism."
#190. To: no gnu taxes (#179)
The common theme among them at Libertypost was pretty much just "Bush sucks"
#191. To: Ferret Mike (#185)
Not to mention you lecture about name calling and here you are name calling.
#192. To: Godwinson (#181)
You can't over look the fact that they [Europeans] have less people in prison than the supposedly free bill of rights loving USA.
#193. To: Liberator (#192)
Are you suggesting "assault and battery," "rape," "murder," and "B & E" be downgraded to "misdemeanor" in the U.S.?
#194. To: Godwinson (#188)
To have dissent is insane?
#195. To: Godwinson (#189)
"Yea, Pete was off on a tare a while ago about a black woman retired from the military being buried in Arlington Cemetary. Real kooky racist stuff when he was posting on LP."
#196. To: Liberator (#194)
#197. To: Godwinson, sneakypete (#189)
Pete was off on a tare...
#198. To: Godwinson (#196)
tea bag myths
#199. To: Liberator (#197)
What's a tare?
#200. To: Godwinson (#182)
Just because you guys are used to the LP echo chamber you assume dissent is spam.
#201. To: Godwinson (#193)
In Maryland, almost 70% of inmates are in jail for drug offences according to the Baltimore Sun. According to White House statistics nearly 40% of Americans have tried marijuana. Ninety- seven million people would be a lot of people to lock up.
#202. To: Ferret Mike (#199)
#203. To: Godwinson (#191)
"This forum deserves it. This place is a cesspool."
#204. To: Godwinson (#193)
Wow, a conservative who trusts the govt with nothing except on crime and punishment?
#205. To: Liberator (#202)
#206. To: Liberator (#201)
#207. To: Ferret Mike (#205)
I was just engaging in some dry humor at his expense.
#208. To: lucysmom (#204)
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What happens when they drown government in the bathtub?
#209. To: Ferret Mike, Liberator, lucysmom (#205)
#210. To: Godwinson (#206)
I have never been in jail and in superior Europe few people are.
#211. To: Ferret Mike (#203)
Not that you are being overly judgmental or anything like that.
#212. To: Liberator (#210)
#213. To: Liberator, Godwinson (#210)
In America, one out of 100 are felons and in most cases that loses them the right to vote for life. America sucks like that.
#214. To: lucysmom (#204)
"What happens when they drown government in the bathtub?"
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