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[None] URL Source:[None] Published:Jan 25, 2011 Author:just sayin Post Date:2011-01-25 21:35:45 by no gnu taxes Keywords:None Views:168547 Comments:239
Ain't watching that crap.
Just reporting beforehand what the MSM reaction will be.
Communism upholds the notion of a stateless society with everyone in it being equal. Supposedly no one is rich, or poor. In this system, it is the community at large who owns resources and the system of production.
LOL! Good one. I am not talking about the Santa Claus fantasy,I'm talking about the slave state reality.
With Fascism, it pertains to the state and considers it on top of everything. Under that system, the state is all encompassing and for fascists, no human values exist outside of the state.
See? Even you know they are the same. You just haven't completely shed your indoctrination and put it together yet.
Fascists contend the state is everything with nothing above it, outside of it or against it. They believe in a system that believes in nationalism (includes economic nationalism), corporatism (includes economic planning), militarism and totalitarianism (dictatorship and social interventionism).
In other words,modern day China.
And the future America/North American Economic Zone unless we get VERY lucky.
It will be economic fascism without the nationalism,though. The new globalist fascism with no borders. Only the very best and most trendy version of fascism,if you please!
By and large, Communists think globally, but Fascists only care to think in terms of things only existing on a national level.
Uhhh,ever heard of a couple of guys named Hitler and Mussolini? Seems to me that both sent their armies on vacations outside their national borders.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Are you guys the perfect stereotypes of the leftist?
I am an ex Conservative Republican so I know your positions well because I was once like you or associated with you types. I am an independent rationalist now.
Godwinson posted on 2011-01-24 21:29:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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independent rationalist
bwahahaha
Does that mean that everything you type on a keyboard consists of far left talking points?
I disagree, there is a profound difference between the two; as in Communism, the state has custodial control of everything, but in Fascism the state control.
So, as I see it we are arguing over the difference between ownership and control. You seem to think they are two sides of the same coin, but Communism is more a socio-economic model that upholds an allegedly classless, stateless and egalitarian society.
Fascism is more an ideology that works to bring together radical and authoritarian nationalism.
I understand where you are going with your points about the two systems, but this is what I learned as a poli-sci major at The University of Oregon, which I know you would consider a left wing ideology training camp.
Which you are welcome to do, but I learned to think freely there and was a student, not a pupil learning propaganda to regurgitate on command. ;-)
I agree that The People's Forum has a strict no ad hominem policy. But attacking a person new to a forum as aggressively and unmercifully as Pete was based on the rule differences is hypocritical.
I did not see people attack pete unless by asking him to back up hist statements you mean attack.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Mike,IMHO,most of them did it because they had bumped heads with me in the past on other forums,but felt safe in going after me on the People's Forum because they had strength in numbers there and felt sure others would flock to their defense and get me banned.
Pete, I know for a fact you were welcomed enthusiastically on People's Forum by someone who then asked you be banned when you started your rude behavior there. So you can spin it all you want but I know the story.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Does that mean that everything you type on a keyboard consists of far left talking points?
Why are you asking pete? I am the one that wrote it badeye. I support the political philosophy of social democracy as found in Sarkozy's party (right of center) and as found in Germany under Merkel.
I find GOP conservatives laughable since they adopted Sarah Palin, Bachmann and Rush as their intellectual leaders.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
As I recall, Sneaky wasn't banned, he was restricted to 3 posts a day, and then that was raised to 10.
Also Sneaky had a couple of staunch supporters despite his behavior.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
#75. To: sneakypete, Ferret Mike, Parrot with speed dial (#57)
He lost his ability to argue a point without insult, etc and I can see spending time on there caused him to lose his faculties.
Nope. What it was was 10+ years of dealing with fools and trying to reach the unreachable made me lose all my patience for it.
Since your advocacy was an obvious failure and it caused you a mental break down in your declining years I suggest you take up walks in the park and feeding pigeons than hanging out in forums......
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
I read the thread, and there was a decided move to give this veteran the boot as soon as possible. A negative attitude about him was more in play than the desire to uphold the forum rules.
That is typical of most liberal forums. Don't dare post an opposing opinion or you'll be gang attacked and out on your ass in a matter of a few posts. I've never been banned from an open or "conservative" forum, but every liberal forum I've posted on I've been given the boot.
As I recall, Sneaky wasn't banned, he was restricted to 3 posts a day, and then that was raised to 10.
That's correct and keeping him on was very much Robin's call against the wishes of others - and he still bad mouth's Robin as a Jim Rob when she was fighting against his banning.
That's Sneakypete's view of the world (which he has every right to) in a nutshell if you ask me.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
You were likely been banned for being a troll and I should know since I know your posting history for a while now. Sneaky was not banned he was restricted due to insults in his posts.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
So you're claiming that as you support a move away from socialism in Europe as they realize its failures, you still support a move towards socialism in the US.
So you're claiming that as you support a move away from socialism in Europe as they realize its failures, you still support a move towards socialism in the US.
Most of Europe is not "socialist". What I am saying is most Americans on the right wing forums are morons who think France and Germany are 'socialist'.
Every hear of Christian democracy? Social market?
That's pretty much the Western European model.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Way to prove you are not a troll.....though you are probably so deranged you assume this is normal behavior - being in an echo chamber with like minded kooks tends to make one lose the ability to discern they are kooks.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Socialism isn't a form of government so much as a public policy. They are socialist democracies. The concept of taxation and entitlement has ruined them and that is why you see them backing off it.
"Christian democracy" is also a joke as applied there now. To start with, there is nothing about Christianity that deals with State policy, so the term was always an oxymoron. And now the policies are every bit secular in nature.
The US is getting more socialist, too, and it will ruin the US, too if it continues.
"Christian democracy" is also a joke as applied there now. To start with, there is nothing about Christianity that deals with State policy, so the term was always an oxymoron. And now the policies are every bit secular in nature.
The GOP right wing fears Christian democracy they now advocate separation of church and state! LOL!
It is clear you have no idea what Christian democracy means. It does not mean what you think it means from what you wrote and last I looked Germany, run by the Christian democrats is booming economically and still a manufacturing exporter.
Under the GOP America lost more manufacturing jobs than ever - let alone more jobs than during the great depression.
Euro up against dollar on German economic strength
BERLIN
The 17-nation euro is higher against the dollar, helped by a survey showing business confidence in Germany, Europe's largest economy, continued to rise in January.
The German economy enjoyed strong growth last year due to a rebound in international trade, which boosted the country's high-value exports. Analysts expect Germany to remain Europe's principal engine of growth in 2011 as well.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
I understand where you are going with your points about the two systems, but this is what I learned as a poli-sci major at The University of Oregon,
Sue them and get your tuition back.
ANYBODY that falls for the rhetoric of the political theorists of ANY stripe hook,line,and sinker is cruising for a fall. Theory is fine,but reality is where people have to live,and the reality is far from the theory.
And,of course,keeping people believing in the theory and hoping it will come true if they just wish hard enough is what keeps the rulers in control.
Hell,the same strategy has keep organized religion in biz for thousands of years now.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
You really do think that tag line represents profound thought,don't you?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
I stated that McCarthy was right and that everybody he accused of being a communist agent really WAS a communist agent.Prove me wrong,dipshit.
I forget to you types wanting public education is communistic so who you consider communist is always morphing.
Wouldn't it have been easier to just type "I still can't prove you wrong"?
What part about their names being listed in the KGB files as Soviet agents is it that you have such a hard part understanding?
Maybe you think the KGB was clever enough to understand the USSR was going to collapse,and decided to salt their top secret files with the names of false agents in order to cause some Americanski's problems when the day came that their files would be open to the public?
Yeah,that must be it!
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
I find GOP conservatives laughable since they adopted Sarah Palin, Bachmann and Rush as their intellectual leaders.
I find people laughable who look to Europe for conservative positions for America.
They don't even have the Bill of Rights over there. You can go to jail for saying Hitler was a swell dancer,or for calling a politician a idiot in the press. Plus you have no right to own and posses private weapons unless you are wealthy.
Yeah, those sure are some conservative values you are soaking up.
I bet you think the Muslims in Afghanistan are just Americans that talk funny and wear funny clothes too,don't you?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Wouldn't it have been easier to just type "I still can't prove you wrong"?
McCarthy never proved anyone was a commie. He accused people of being sympathetic to commies - that can mean anything. It's like how you accuse people of being commies or how you accused France of being commie socialist on peoples forum.
Pete, shame on you. I have your number. Move along.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
You can go to jail for saying Hitler was a swell dancer,or for calling a politician a idiot in the press
Yet, less people are in actual jails in Europe than they are in America. So your "Land of the free" is an illusion. Because in practice Europe is not a police state - the USA is.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
As I recall, Sneaky wasn't banned, he was restricted to 3 posts a day, and then that was raised to 10.
You are correct. Some people were screaming for me to be banned,but then Robin restricted me to 3 posts a day by mistake,and then realized she had made a mistake and put me back up to 10 posts a day.
Since there were more than 10 people there ratpacking and making multiple posts to me there was no reason for me to go back because I couldn't respond to their attacks with just 10 posts.
Unless of course I surrendered and begged for forgiveness for being rational.
One post would do that.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Since there were more than 10 people there ratpacking and making multiple posts to me there was no reason for me to go back because I couldn't respond to their attacks with just 10 posts.
Don't reply back like an idiot LP poster and you will be fine and taken off probation. I would like to see you back there and normal again like you were a long time ago. Can you do that?
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Since your advocacy was an obvious failure and it caused you a mental break down in your declining years I suggest you take up walks in the park and feeding pigeons than hanging out in forums......
LOL! Good one,Kamarade!
BTW,think you might be able to find time in your busy schedule of spouting nonsense to prove me wrong about McCarthy?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
That is typical of most liberal forums. Don't dare post an opposing opinion or you'll be gang attacked and out on your ass in a matter of a few posts.
I was banned from the Huffington Report after posting ONE post.
I didn't even last that long as Salon. Seems like they had a watch on my screen name. I registered,got the approval,and then got the message "this screenname is banned" when I went to make my first post.
BTW,I am NOT banned at the People's Forum. I just don't post there because I am limited to 10 posts per day,and it is impossible to respond to all the attacks on me with just 10 posts.
And to be completely truthful,I probably wouldn't post there anymore even if I had full posting privileges. As I have written right here on this thread,I no longer have the patience needed to deal with admitted socialists and various other forms of Euroweenies.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)