Title: OBAMA HIT A HOME RUN! Source:
[None] URL Source:[None] Published:Jan 25, 2011 Author:just sayin Post Date:2011-01-25 21:35:45 by no gnu taxes Keywords:None Views:168307 Comments:239
Ain't watching that crap.
Just reporting beforehand what the MSM reaction will be.
I watched it, i enjoyed it because I enjoy hearing Obama speak, but I didn't see anything remarkable or ground-breaking. It was your run-of-the-mill SOTU, somewhat subdued and less specific than years past and certainly nothing like Clinton's 1995 speech. Obama continues to show that he's the adult in the room, which is why is his approval ratings are going up now that he's got a bunch of loons in the opposition.
Even Rasmussen now has Obama at a 52% approval rating with a -5 strong disapprove, his best showing since 9/09.
I enjoyed it too. He was very good tonight as he clearly showed he has command and focus of a president in charge and who knows how to lead and lead well.
I enjoyed it too. He was very good tonight as he clearly showed he has command and focus of a president in charge and who knows how to lead and lead well.
It certainly helps that he's followed by a woman who doesn't know when slavery ended.
Mikey,....I personally do not mind your vested interest in the various organizations you participate in. I really really enjoyed my time in Oregon,....I'd love to have a place on the coast and watch the fog sit till near noon,...with the heavy cedar fragrence in the air. Before my retirement/pension/disability., I spent decades in the bush,climbing mountains,photography. Ya,...I do not want corporations running around despoiling all that.
Yet I know its true,....is Fact* as discovered by Norman Dodds 1950's congressional reece commission findings into the Foundations. and so recorded by him to G Edward Griffin. That from 1908 [there abouts] Carnegie Foundation sought to entangle America in foreign wars to reshape the nation. and that the nations Judiciary and Education should be taken over by the Foundations,..and then lists out other Foundations participation. So ya,....it is a socialist agenda which openly states the USA is to merge with the Soviet Union.
I cannot support that path. That is a coup,..and is against the very heart of the US Constitution. It is an act which is done without consent of the Public,..and then becomes Intrigues as Politicians lie and conspire against their very own people.
Obama is a Wallstreet drop in to the Whitehouse. The Foreign bankers and US Jeckyll Island Fed are conspiring against the nation. Freedoms are dissapearing ...from overt EPA/UN Agenda 21 practice,...to the fake war on terror and Homeland Reich. America is getting both socialism and fascism now.
I am not sure what your point here is you wish me to address or clarify. I spoke in general on how I felt Obama did in his speech tonight, and how well he preforms and who runs against him will determine if he gets my vote or if indeed I will vote in the 2012 Presidential election.
I am very unhappy with many things about how things are done in the world and the USA and why they do things that way.
But from my vantage point your post is kinda all over the ball park. So clarify please, thanks.
I notice in lurking eLPee a we bit ago you are a poster there, did you or are you a poster at TOS? Just curious, mind you.
I am not sure what your point here is you wish me to address or clarify. I spoke in general on how I felt Obama did in his speech tonight, and how well he preforms and who runs against him will determine if he gets my vote or if indeed I will vote in the 2012 Presidential election.
I am very unhappy with many things about how things are done in the world and the USA and why they do things that way.
But from my vantage point your post is kinda all over the ball park. So clarify please, thanks.
I notice in lurking eLPee a we bit ago you are a poster there, did you or are you a poster at TOS? Just curious, mind you.
First,...and its not to be rude I generally post in a form which speaks to lurkers on threads,...with board participation secondary.
I listed out the Socialist Foundations history...so that others could go google that themselves if in doubt.
I mentioned your public service interests so as to let you know I had read about that,...and thus mentioned my Eartherness : )
There are of course people who are simply Democrats who voted Obama cuz they hate Bush Crime family,...do not want wars,...do not want the nation doing the fascist thingy on everyone in corporate graft,...and to the peoples at home. So ya....thats fine with me. Recently however,....I've noticed a few real die hard Commies show up at LF and gloat. Some others who appear mild socialists,..I suspect are raging commies too. Obama becomes the litmus test in my opinion as to where someones world political views rest. He's either Karl Marx champion we can do it. or just another Democrat in the game we call American politics.
I know Obama is a Banker cut out. I would luv it if he were truly independent,.....A Black Man leading the Nation Just as Black Pharaohs ruled Egypt. Blacks have been thru hell in their journey called America. they so deserve to have a Black President. and....Americans all should support that.
Tragically....I see Obama as a Foundation cut out and a wrecker. He's a wrecker just as Bush was. Both do as told.... The Elites play every paradigm possible Obama is not doing what he said he would,...he lied like Bush,...and the wars continue,...Gitmo,..the Banker looting,...all of it.
America has to throw both these false houses off.....or its gonna end up actual conflict mirror the Revolutionary war. This time....the Goob will be King George.
Being selfish,....it is my hope to help those on the left see the false foundation banker front. I try my best to be on the square. I was run off from TOS for exposing Bush crimes. I'm disliked at LP for that too. Yet,...I'm the real deal,....and if the left does not like my view or opinion they are free to challenge that. Canada is a socialist country with capitalism and the Queens power reach. the Gov is put in by Elites,....recently,...the Liberals run one feeble goof after another. Of course conservative socialist/stay the stauts quo Canadians will accept some foreign war and Harper,..over the weak opponents offered. so its the same game as Mclunatic/Palin,....its set up to be an uncontested win for Obama. Just as Canada's elections usually are quiet endings.
But still,...that Globalist North American Union,...SPP Continental Reich thing circles like a Vulture. Soon Canada will be faced with adopting Napolitano Homeland Reich. They have allready been trying to sneak that in,...with whistle blowers at least getting broad media attention to counter and wanting it debated in Parliament.
Thanks for the clarification. The only thing I was left unsure of is whether or not you are a U.S. citizen or Canadian.
I will answer this tomorrow as I'm on wifi, tired and the joint I'm at closes soon. I also find LF a somewhat difficult forum to lower my guard in and relax and post. There are many here who turn the place into something much like a Junior High recess without supervision place.
And I find doing relaxed, thoughtful posting where people have consideration for others including ideological opposites something that is more like swimming in molasses than water.
I have been hoping to see a few good conservatives join The-Peoples-forum.com as the ideology is no barrier there. But testiness, distrust and contentiousness from both those joining, and some already there have made that hard to see happen.
I cut my posting teeth on open forums where people of all political stripe belonged to the virtual community, and I have seen that work really well. And I miss that. It would be nice to see you there, and I would guard your flanks as I did with Sneakypete when he visited should you want to join onto the mix at another venue.
But that is up to you, and I will leave it at that.
I am skilled at forum posting and never expect to see someone whom I engage in discussion to be converted to my point of view. I know it's always wise to aim at the lurker element.
And the hardest part of posting at TOS, eLPee and other venues was to learn to really be quick to put on the verbal brass knuckles. I am very laid back by nature and my posting start-up self of 1995 would be quickly chewed up in a joint like this one. My real time activist activities are a big part of this tempering of my political skin too I should add.
Tim McCarthy (no relation) a Eugene Police sergeant whom I know well was quoted in the second article in the local paper after I nearly died in my fall said -- and I paraphrase -- "Mr. McCarthy has often criticized us at EPD and the local government, but he has also praised us when he felt we had done good work." I appreciated that, and I prefer to try to always value anyone for agreement, disagreement, or even the good and bad about them as I am always mindful I am human and not perfect too.
I posted on TOS for years because if this balance, and only when the joint to an unmercifully hard turn to the right and took a one track minded eye to the interests of those they spin politically for was I banned there.
Though really to be fair, Time.Com/Politics, my favorite forum had just been closed and I didn't help either by occasionally being snappish to some there because of my sadness to see the Time magazine venue close. None of us are perfect, though we soon learn in forum to be careful to act like we are. ;-D
In any event, that is just to frame out my perspective which is a very easy thing for me to do as I am always mindful of how I want posting venues and people to be v. the way they are currently in the context of the Internet.
Have a good night and I'll get to answering the political points of your post tomorrow. Cheers.
#38. To: Ferret Mike, Parrot with speed dial, Sneakypete (#36)
I have been hoping to see a few good conservatives join The-Peoples-forum.com as the ideology is no barrier there. But testiness, distrust and contentiousness from both those joining, and some already there have made that hard to see happen.
I cut my posting teeth on open forums where people of all political stripe belonged to the virtual community, and I have seen that work really well. And I miss that. It would be nice to see you there, and I would guard your flanks as I did with Sneakypete when he visited should you want to join onto the mix at another venue.
The-Peoples-forum.com is as close to that free thinking environment you will get that is from the old right wing pre George Bush.
With that said, sneakypete - and I know his posting history from way back, went crazy by sticking around Libertypost too long and taking on their bad habits.
He lost his ability to argue a point without insult, etc and I can see spending time on there caused him to lose his faculties.
Sorry, sneaky. That is how I see it. I pinged you as a courtesy only. I am not seeing a response from you because I know it will be lame and predictable. You, can surprise me of course and reform yourself but I doubt it.
#57. To: Godwinson, Ferret Mike, Parrot with speed dial (#38)(Edited)
With that said, sneakypete - and I know his posting history from way back, went crazy by sticking around Libertypost too long and taking on their bad habits.
He lost his ability to argue a point without insult, etc and I can see spending time on there caused him to lose his faculties.
Nope. What it was was 10+ years of dealing with fools and trying to reach the unreachable made me lose all my patience for it. I can tolerate a fool that is young and teachable,but somebody living today that has been on the internet for years and years and STILL thinks socialism is the light of the future is nothing more than a fucking oxygen thief. They are either too stupid to cross the streets by themselves,or so greedy they don't give a damn what happens to the country as long as THEY get what THEY want. The ultimate "Fuck YOU,ME FIRST!" brand of thinking.
I have no tolerance for these people and I make no apologies for not pretending they may have valid opinions.
In fact,I now have very little tolerance for ANY dogmatic idiot that thinks there is such a thing as a political and economic system that is perfect in itself and doesn't borrow from other models. You can't discuss anything with these fools of either the self-proclaimed left or the self-proclaimed right without them being more concerned with scoring points than they are discussing reason.
I have these fools on the left tell me my EARNED VA benefits are welfare in a lame attempt to defend welfare,and fools that claim they are from the right claiming that Social Security is what makes America a socialist state,and that it should be stopped immediately and no more money paid into it. Mostly because THEY think the money won't be there for them when THEY retire,and because THEY have private retirement plans and enough disposable income each week to pay into them.
It's like these idiots are too stupid to realize that not EVERYBODY can or even SHOULD be a successful upper middle-class wage earner. We still need cooks,truck drivers,etc,etc,etc. The country won't function without workers to work these so-called "menial jobs" that don't pay much,and these people surely deserve to not have to go hungry and without medical care when they get too old to work anymore. After all,the work they performed their whole working lives was essential work that was needed in order to free up the time of the people who thing their own labors were "more valuable" so they could go out and earn 6 figure salaries.
They are the mirror image of you lefties who resent anybody that you consider to be "rich",and want the government to punish them for their success. And,of course,you define "rich" as "anybody that earns 1 dollar a week more than Me!"
And of course all these people are the true-believer partisan hacks from both branches of the ruling party. The same people that defended Boy Jorge when he was doing what the current traitor in the WH is doing now but slamming him for it,and their mirror-image buddies on the other side of the partisan argument that slammed the hell out of Boy Jorge for doing it,but now praising the current traitor for expanding Boy Jorges policies.
Sorry, sneaky. That is how I see it. I pinged you as a courtesy only. I am not seeing a response from you because I know it will be lame and predictable. You, can surprise me of course and reform yourself but I doubt it.
My most humble apologies,Mastah! I hope that I have no offended thee too much,or surely I will have to end my own life,for surely you know how important your opinion of me is!
I can tolerate a fool that is young and teachable,but somebody living today that has been on the internet for years and years and STILL thinks socialism is the light of the future is nothing more than a fucking oxygen thief. They are either too stupid to cross the streets by themselves,or so greedy they don't give a damn what happens to the country as long as THEY get what THEY want. The ultimate "Fuck YOU,ME FIRST!" brand of thinking.
I have no tolerance for these people and I make no apologies for not pretending they may have valid opinions.
In fact,I now have very little tolerance for ANY dogmatic idiot that thinks there is such a thing as a political and economic system that is perfect in itself and doesn't borrow from other models. You can't discuss anything with these fools of either the self-proclaimed left or the self-proclaimed right without them being more concerned with scoring points than they are discussing reason.
I have these fools on the left tell me my EARNED VA benefits are welfare in a lame attempt to defend welfare,and fools that claim they are from the right claiming that Social Security is what makes America a socialist state,and that it should be stopped immediately and no more money paid into it. Mostly because THEY think the money won't be there for them when THEY retire,and because THEY have private retirement plans and enough disposable income each week to pay into them.
It's like these idiots are too stupid to realize that not EVERYBODY can or even SHOULD be a successful upper middle-class wage earner. We still need cooks,truck drivers,etc,etc,etc. The country won't function without workers to work these so-called "menial jobs" that don't pay much,and these people surely deserve to not have to go hungry and without medical care when they get too old to work anymore. After all,the work they performed their whole working lives was essential work that was needed in order to free up the time of the people who thing their own labors were "more valuable" so they could go out and earn 6 figure salaries.
They are the mirror image of you lefties who resent anybody that you consider to be "rich",and want the government to punish them for their success. And,of course,you define "rich" as "anybody that earns 1 dollar a week more than Me!"
And of course all these people are the true-believer partisan hacks from both branches of the ruling party. The same people that defended Boy Jorge when he was doing what the current traitor in the WH is doing now but slamming him for it,and their mirror-image buddies on the other side of the partisan argument that slammed the hell out of Boy Jorge for doing it,but now praising the current traitor for expanding Boy Jorges policies.
Well said, sir. VERY well said.
To my eternal shame, I voted for W. twice, before I figured out the system was completely rigged.
#75. To: sneakypete, Ferret Mike, Parrot with speed dial (#57)
He lost his ability to argue a point without insult, etc and I can see spending time on there caused him to lose his faculties.
Nope. What it was was 10+ years of dealing with fools and trying to reach the unreachable made me lose all my patience for it.
Since your advocacy was an obvious failure and it caused you a mental break down in your declining years I suggest you take up walks in the park and feeding pigeons than hanging out in forums......