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Title: OBAMA HIT A HOME RUN!
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Published: Jan 25, 2011
Author: just sayin
Post Date: 2011-01-25 21:35:45 by no gnu taxes
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Ain't watching that crap. Just reporting beforehand what the MSM reaction will be.
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#5. To: no gnu taxes (#0)
Willful meet Ignorance.
I watched it, i enjoyed it because I enjoy hearing Obama speak, but I didn't see anything remarkable or ground-breaking. It was your run-of-the-mill SOTU, somewhat subdued and less specific than years past and certainly nothing like Clinton's 1995 speech. Obama continues to show that he's the adult in the room, which is why is his approval ratings are going up now that he's got a bunch of loons in the opposition. Even Rasmussen now has Obama at a 52% approval rating with a -5 strong disapprove, his best showing since 9/09.
I enjoyed it too. He was very good tonight as he clearly showed he has command and focus of a president in charge and who knows how to lead and lead well.
It certainly helps that he's followed by a woman who doesn't know when slavery ended.
She is a joke. I didn't watch her, I would rather watch adult Congressmen or women than a pretentious and ill informed tea flea like her.
Mikey,....I personally do not mind your vested interest in the various organizations you participate in. Yet I know its true,....is Fact* as discovered by Norman Dodds 1950's congressional reece commission findings into the Foundations. I cannot support that path. Obama is a Wallstreet drop in to the Whitehouse. That,...is to be resisted!
I am not sure what your point here is you wish me to address or clarify. I spoke in general on how I felt Obama did in his speech tonight, and how well he preforms and who runs against him will determine if he gets my vote or if indeed I will vote in the 2012 Presidential election. I am very unhappy with many things about how things are done in the world and the USA and why they do things that way. But from my vantage point your post is kinda all over the ball park. So clarify please, thanks. I notice in lurking eLPee a we bit ago you are a poster there, did you or are you a poster at TOS? Just curious, mind you.
I am very unhappy with many things about how things are done in the world and the USA and why they do things that way. But from my vantage point your post is kinda all over the ball park. So clarify please, thanks. I notice in lurking eLPee a we bit ago you are a poster there, did you or are you a poster at TOS? Just curious, mind you. First,...and its not to be rude I listed out the Socialist Foundations history...so that others could go google that themselves if in doubt. I mentioned your public service interests so as to let you know I had read about that,...and thus mentioned my Eartherness : ) There are of course people who are simply Democrats who voted Obama cuz they hate Bush Crime family,...do not want wars,...do not want the nation doing the fascist thingy on everyone in corporate graft,...and to the peoples at home. I know Obama is a Banker cut out. Tragically....I see Obama as a Foundation cut out and a wrecker. America has to throw both these false houses off.....or its gonna end up actual conflict mirror the Revolutionary war. Being selfish,....it is my hope to help those on the left see the false foundation banker front. But still,...that Globalist North American Union,...SPP Continental Reich thing circles like a Vulture.
Thanks for the clarification. The only thing I was left unsure of is whether or not you are a U.S. citizen or Canadian. I will answer this tomorrow as I'm on wifi, tired and the joint I'm at closes soon. I also find LF a somewhat difficult forum to lower my guard in and relax and post. There are many here who turn the place into something much like a Junior High recess without supervision place. And I find doing relaxed, thoughtful posting where people have consideration for others including ideological opposites something that is more like swimming in molasses than water. I have been hoping to see a few good conservatives join The-Peoples-forum.com as the ideology is no barrier there. But testiness, distrust and contentiousness from both those joining, and some already there have made that hard to see happen. I cut my posting teeth on open forums where people of all political stripe belonged to the virtual community, and I have seen that work really well. And I miss that. It would be nice to see you there, and I would guard your flanks as I did with Sneakypete when he visited should you want to join onto the mix at another venue. But that is up to you, and I will leave it at that. I am skilled at forum posting and never expect to see someone whom I engage in discussion to be converted to my point of view. I know it's always wise to aim at the lurker element. And the hardest part of posting at TOS, eLPee and other venues was to learn to really be quick to put on the verbal brass knuckles. I am very laid back by nature and my posting start-up self of 1995 would be quickly chewed up in a joint like this one. My real time activist activities are a big part of this tempering of my political skin too I should add. Tim McCarthy (no relation) a Eugene Police sergeant whom I know well was quoted in the second article in the local paper after I nearly died in my fall said -- and I paraphrase -- "Mr. McCarthy has often criticized us at EPD and the local government, but he has also praised us when he felt we had done good work." I appreciated that, and I prefer to try to always value anyone for agreement, disagreement, or even the good and bad about them as I am always mindful I am human and not perfect too. I posted on TOS for years because if this balance, and only when the joint to an unmercifully hard turn to the right and took a one track minded eye to the interests of those they spin politically for was I banned there. Though really to be fair, Time.Com/Politics, my favorite forum had just been closed and I didn't help either by occasionally being snappish to some there because of my sadness to see the Time magazine venue close. None of us are perfect, though we soon learn in forum to be careful to act like we are. ;-D In any event, that is just to frame out my perspective which is a very easy thing for me to do as I am always mindful of how I want posting venues and people to be v. the way they are currently in the context of the Internet. Have a good night and I'll get to answering the political points of your post tomorrow. Cheers.
I cut my posting teeth on open forums where people of all political stripe belonged to the virtual community, and I have seen that work really well. And I miss that. It would be nice to see you there, and I would guard your flanks as I did with Sneakypete when he visited should you want to join onto the mix at another venue. The-Peoples-forum.com is as close to that free thinking environment you will get that is from the old right wing pre George Bush. With that said, sneakypete - and I know his posting history from way back, went crazy by sticking around Libertypost too long and taking on their bad habits. He lost his ability to argue a point without insult, etc and I can see spending time on there caused him to lose his faculties. Sorry, sneaky. That is how I see it. I pinged you as a courtesy only. I am not seeing a response from you because I know it will be lame and predictable. You, can surprise me of course and reform yourself but I doubt it.
Sneakypete has a right to his opinions. And he is not abusive, has a delightful sense of humor and I have known and trusted him since the mid ninties. He has lost nothing in terms of his abilities to be a responsible poster. If he decides to return and try to post at the People's Forum again, be advised I will defend his right to be there. And if people are inappropriately ugly toward him, I will be ugly right back.
If he decides to return and try to post at the People's Forum again, be advised I will defend his right to be there. And if people are inappropriately ugly toward him, I will be ugly right back. I did not see that good side of him on Peoples-forum. He was given probation period and he insulted the forum moderator for having a different opinion than her. He went kook-berger is my guess.
Insulted her? Bull shit. "Jim Robin" is an editorial comment with humor to it. He was expressing an opinion that Robin was being petty as Jim Robinson toward him. As someone who has talked to Robin and who knows she does not begrudge him being there, and merely made an honest mistake she corrected in how she tried to initially change someone else's cutting him to three posts a day to ten posts a day, I disagree with Pete. But that is the problem; people get so angry and defensive it is only human to assume the worst. I am guilty at times of doing the same thing, so I sure don't speak down to anyone in that paticular regard. But I do take seriously the obligation to defend anyone's right to speak even should I disagree with them. Pete was banned when he first joined Free Republic because the overhead thought he was bull shitting about his military service as a Special Forces trooper who served honorably and who went to Vietnam. The S.F. community current and former corrected this and he was reinstated. I have never seen Pete not say what he honestly believes, and he is never out to screw with anyone just to do that as a Yukon or a Mad Dog would. And I am former S.F. too and consider him brethren.
Robin was giving pete many chances. It was others who cut him off. His third post on peoplesforum was overtly racist in tone - not enough to get banned but enough to make him look like a dick. His forth post on there was in defense of Senator McCarthy's withc hunts - ok his opinion - but still dickish. By his 6th post he is accusing posters of being commies By his 7th or 8th post he is calling other posters "stupid" and then he got worse and he started calling Robin clueless idiot because she disagreed with pete's warped view of reality. I think Pete lost it because he was asked to back his nutso thoughts up with facts and he had no ability to do that. My guess anyway for why he went into meltdown like that. Sorry,the peoples forums is not a place for that kind if discourse. Here you can be a pig not not there.
I stated that McCarthy was right and that everybody he accused of being a communist agent really WAS a communist agent.Prove me wrong,dipshit. Can't do it,can you? All you can do is fall back on the communist rhetoric you have accepted as fact your whole life. Sorry,the peoples forums is not a place for that kind if discourse. Here you can be a pig not not there. Yup,youse a bunch of Sensitive Socialists (TM) over there,and you do love your group think!
I guess you've missed the posts where he said he was a solid right wing conservative most of his life. ...if you believe them.
LOL! Well,nobody can accuse that boy of not having a sense of humor,can they?
#6. To: We The People, go65 (#5) Are you guys the perfect stereotypes of the leftist? I am an ex Conservative Republican so I know your positions well because I was once like you or associated with you types. I am an independent rationalist now. Godwinson posted on 2011-01-24 21:29:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply ------------------ independent rationalist bwahahaha Does that mean that everything you type on a keyboard consists of far left talking points?
Why are you asking pete? I am the one that wrote it badeye. I support the political philosophy of social democracy as found in Sarkozy's party (right of center) and as found in Germany under Merkel. I find GOP conservatives laughable since they adopted Sarah Palin, Bachmann and Rush as their intellectual leaders.
I find people laughable who look to Europe for conservative positions for America. They don't even have the Bill of Rights over there. You can go to jail for saying Hitler was a swell dancer,or for calling a politician a idiot in the press. Plus you have no right to own and posses private weapons unless you are wealthy. Yeah, those sure are some conservative values you are soaking up. I bet you think the Muslims in Afghanistan are just Americans that talk funny and wear funny clothes too,don't you?
Yet, less people are in actual jails in Europe than they are in America. So your "Land of the free" is an illusion. Because in practice Europe is not a police state - the USA is.
Is parroting leftist brainfarts your only talent? Tell me asshole,are there more people in jail in Europe for unpopular political speech or are their more people in jail in America for unpopular political speech?
It seems to me in America the benefits to the oligarchs who rule America of jailing millions of Americans means you take them off the voting roles.
I guess you are unaware of the Rev-Rund Sharpton going to prisons in Florida to register voters in the last two elections? Gee,I wonder who his target audience was,and who he wants them to vote for?
More sneakypete racialism based on nutso false reality. America is a police state with more people in prison than Russia or China combined - both on a per gross and per capita basis. "Land of the free"? More like "land of the jailed". So you can act like Europeans are less free because of some law against racial hate crimes they have but you can't over look the fact that they have less people in prison than the supposedly free bill of rights loving USA.
Are you suggesting "assault and battery," "rape," "murder," and "B & E" be downgraded to "misdemeanor" in the U.S.? Or are you endorsing total chaos? You should just be happy the Indonesian-Kenyan with the fake SS's# isn't in jail.
Wow, a conservative who trusts the govt with nothing except on crime and punishment? http://www.nolanchart.com/article3237.html Non-Violent Offenses Leads United States to World's Highest Incarceration Rate The United States has the highest incarceration rate amongst any country in the world, including China, Iran, Russia or any other socialistic country. Of every 99 people in America, 1 of them is in jail. Is America really a violent nation? In 2004, over half of the prisoners in state prisons were held for non-violent crime. This equals 640,000 non-violent crimes, 250,000 of which were for drug offenses. In Maryland, almost 70% of inmates are in jail for drug offences according to the Baltimore Sun. According to White House statistics nearly 40% of Americans have tried marijuana. Ninety- seven million people would be a lot of people to lock up. The problem with illegal drugs is the weakness of human nature. Everyone has vices, such as food, gambling, video games, tobacco, alcohol, and sex. How do you decide which vices are good and which are bad? Yearly deaths from alcohol and tobacco are 150,000 and 430,000 respectively. Illegal drugs, on the other hand, are estimated to have killed 28,000 people.
Aaaah, NOW we get the gist of your whining. What we got here is... A damn, long-haired/now bald pot smokin' 60 year-old hippie! I thought you dinosaurs were nearly EXTINCT! How many times has your azz seen jail? P.S. - Power to da Peepuls!
I have never been in jail and in superior Europe few people are. In America, one out of 100 are felons and in most cases that loses them the right to vote for life. America sucks like that.
How do you know, Sybil? In America, one out of 100 are felons and in most cases that loses them the right to vote for life. America sucks like that. So you're a "pro-felon" militant?
So you're a "pro-felon" militant? Kind of nullifies the idea that one's debt to society is paid when his sentence is served, doesn't it? I believe that voting rights are restored in most states.
"One's debt to society" is NEVER really paid when "one" has assaulted, crippled, or murdered someone. Incarceration is really about "rehabilitation," but as a penalty. There are laws of which civilized people must abide in and to or else one loses his/hers/its privilege.
#224. To: Liberator (#218)
In Illinois it could be stealing something with a value of $150.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestAin't watching that crap.
#10. To: Godwinson, no gnu taxes, lucysmom (#5)
#12. To: go65 (#10)
#15. To: Ferret Mike (#12)
I enjoyed it too. He was very good tonight as he clearly showed he has command and focus of a president in charge and who knows how to lead and lead well.
#20. To: go65 (#15)
#23. To: Ferret Mike (#20)
I really really enjoyed my time in Oregon,....I'd love to have a place on the coast and watch the fog sit till near noon,...with the heavy cedar fragrence in the air.
Before my retirement/pension/disability.,
I spent decades in the bush,climbing mountains,photography.
Ya,...I do not want corporations running around despoiling all that.
and so recorded by him to G Edward Griffin.
That from 1908 [there abouts] Carnegie Foundation sought to entangle America in foreign wars to reshape the nation.
and that the nations Judiciary and Education should be taken over by the Foundations,..and then lists out other Foundations participation.
So ya,....it is a socialist agenda which openly states the USA is to merge with the Soviet Union.
That is a coup,..and is against the very heart of the US Constitution.
It is an act which is done without consent of the Public,..and then becomes Intrigues as Politicians lie and conspire against their very own people.
The Foreign bankers and US Jeckyll Island Fed are conspiring against the nation.
Freedoms are dissapearing ...from overt EPA/UN Agenda 21 practice,...to the fake war on terror and Homeland Reich.
America is getting both socialism and fascism now.
#30. To: Parrot with speed dial (#23)
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#35. To: Ferret Mike (#30)
I am not sure what your point here is you wish me to address or clarify. I spoke in general on how I felt Obama did in his speech tonight, and how well he preforms and who runs against him will determine if he gets my vote or if indeed I will vote in the 2012 Presidential election.
I generally post in a form which speaks to lurkers on threads,...with board participation secondary.
So ya....thats fine with me.
Recently however,....I've noticed a few real die hard Commies show up at LF and gloat.
Some others who appear mild socialists,..I suspect are raging commies too.
Obama becomes the litmus test in my opinion as to where someones world political views rest.
He's either Karl Marx champion we can do it.
or just another Democrat in the game we call American politics.
I would luv it if he were truly independent,.....A Black Man leading the Nation
Just as Black Pharaohs ruled Egypt.
Blacks have been thru hell in their journey called America.
they so deserve to have a Black President.
and....Americans all should support that.
He's a wrecker just as Bush was.
Both do as told....
The Elites play every paradigm possible
Obama is not doing what he said he would,...he lied like Bush,...and the wars continue,...Gitmo,..the Banker looting,...all of it.
This time....the Goob will be King George.
I try my best to be on the square.
I was run off from TOS for exposing Bush crimes.
I'm disliked at LP for that too.
Yet,...I'm the real deal,....and if the left does not like my view or opinion they are free to challenge that.
Canada is a socialist country with capitalism and the Queens power reach.
the Gov is put in by Elites,....recently,...the Liberals run one feeble goof after another.
Of course conservative socialist/stay the stauts quo Canadians will accept some foreign war and Harper,..over the weak opponents offered.
so its the same game as Mclunatic/Palin,....its set up to be an uncontested win for Obama.
Just as Canada's elections usually are quiet endings.
Soon Canada will be faced with adopting Napolitano Homeland Reich.
They have allready been trying to sneak that in,...with whistle blowers at least getting broad media attention to counter and wanting it debated in Parliament.
#36. To: Parrot with speed dial (#35)
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#38. To: Ferret Mike, Parrot with speed dial, Sneakypete (#36)
I have been hoping to see a few good conservatives join The-Peoples-forum.com as the ideology is no barrier there. But testiness, distrust and contentiousness from both those joining, and some already there have made that hard to see happen.
#39. To: Godwinson (#38)
#44. To: Ferret Mike, Sneakypete (#39)
Sneakypete has a right to his opinions. And he is not abusive, has a delightful sense of humor and I have known and trusted him since the mid ninties. He has lost nothing in terms of his abilities to be a responsible poster.
#46. To: Godwinson (#44)
#53. To: Ferret Mike, Sneakypete (#46)
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Insulted her? Bull shit. "Jim Robin" is an editorial comment with humor to it. He was expressing an opinion that Robin was being petty as Jim Robinson toward him.
#60. To: Godwinson (#53)
His forth post on there was in defense of Senator McCarthy's withc hunts - ok his opinion - but still dickish.
#62. To: sneakypete (#60)
All you can do is fall back on the communist rhetoric you have accepted as fact your whole life.
#64. To: no gnu taxes (#62)
I guess you've missed the posts where he said he was a solid right wing conservative most of his life.
#67. To: sneakypete (#64)
#73. To: no gnu taxes, sneakypete (#67)
Does that mean that everything you type on a keyboard consists of far left talking points?
#96. To: Godwinson (#73)
I find GOP conservatives laughable since they adopted Sarah Palin, Bachmann and Rush as their intellectual leaders.
#99. To: sneakypete (#96)
You can go to jail for saying Hitler was a swell dancer,or for calling a politician a idiot in the press
#118. To: Godwinson (#99)
Yet, less people are in actual jails in Europe than they are in America. So your "Land of the free" is an illusion. Because in practice Europe is not a police state - the USA is.
#157. To: sneakypete (#118)
#174. To: Godwinson (#157)
It seems to me in America the benefits to the oligarchs who rule America of jailing millions of Americans means you take them off the voting roles.
#181. To: sneakypete, Ferret Mike (#174)
I guess you are unaware of the Rev-Rund Sharpton going to prisons in Florida to register voters in the last two elections?
#192. To: Godwinson (#181)
You can't over look the fact that they [Europeans] have less people in prison than the supposedly free bill of rights loving USA.
#193. To: Liberator (#192)
Are you suggesting "assault and battery," "rape," "murder," and "B & E" be downgraded to "misdemeanor" in the U.S.?
#201. To: Godwinson (#193)
In Maryland, almost 70% of inmates are in jail for drug offences according to the Baltimore Sun. According to White House statistics nearly 40% of Americans have tried marijuana. Ninety- seven million people would be a lot of people to lock up.
#206. To: Liberator (#201)
#210. To: Godwinson (#206)
I have never been in jail and in superior Europe few people are.
#213. To: Liberator, Godwinson (#210)
In America, one out of 100 are felons and in most cases that loses them the right to vote for life. America sucks like that.
#218. To: lucysmom (#213)
Kind of nullifies the idea that one's debt to society is paid when his sentence is served, doesn't it?
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