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Title: Obama's Less Trusted Than Bush on Social Security
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URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-es ... bamas-less-trust_b_811964.html
Published: Jan 21, 2011
Author: Richard Eskow
Post Date: 2011-01-21 11:00:05 by no gnu taxes
Keywords: None
Views: 6667
Comments: 12

When asked whether they trust the president or his opponents in Congress more on the issue of Social Security, people have less trust in Barack Obama than they did in George W. Bush when he had Obama's job. And the question was asked about Bush in 2005, at a time when his unpopular campaign to privatize Social Security was reaching its crescendo.

That's a stunning statistic. The Democratic Party created Social Security and was seen as its champion for three-quarters of a century. Yet voters have less trust in a Democratic president on this issue than they did for one who had pledged to privatize the entire system, and whose party opposed it from the beginning. And the difference isn't minor. 37 percent trusted Bush more than the opposition Democrats in 2005, which was considered a low number at the time. Yet only 26 percent trust Obama over the Republicans, even after their failed attempt to privatize the program -- and even though Democrats have a "brand identification" with Social Security.

The Republican privatization attempt was thought to have contributed significantly to that party's Congressional losses in 2006. Yet the president refuses to say that he won't cut Social Security, and he continues to have kind words for the reckless, inhumane, and unneeded proposals of his Deficit Commission co-chairs (the Commission was unable to agree to a plan).

In this climate, with these numbers, any attempt by the president to cut Social Security could only be described in one phrase: Political malpractice. Is that where he's headed? Or will he surprise us all by delivering a stirring, unequivocal defense of Social Security? After all the suspense and fear over this issue, that would be a political moment for the ages.

But if he's going to have a change of heart, he better act fast. The damage is already considerable. As Social Security Works explains, the 20-point advantage Democrats had on this issue for the last 15 years has evaporated, and trust in President Obama is roughly half of what it was for President Clinton on the same issue. Obama's performance is even worse among those much-sought-after independent voters. Only 18 percent of them trust him on this issue.

Other critical groups are sinking too. Democrats won seniors by seven points in 1996 and lost them by 21 percentage points in 2010. As Social Security Works writes:

Voters across all parties strongly oppose cutting Social Security benefits. 80% of the public opposes cuts to Social Security (70% strongly). Social Security is essentially a core value held by the public; politicians cut the program's benefits at their peril. Bipartisan majorities strongly oppose raising the retirement age to 69. They also oppose cutting benefits for those making more than $60,000 (essentially means-testing) because they recognize that people pay into Social Security and benefits are tied to the amount you contribute.

The public's preferred solution? "Bipartisan majorities support scrapping the payroll tax cap set at $106,800. They are comfortable requiring employers and employees to pay taxes on wages above that level."

Dan Froomkin reported on other poll findings in a piece entitled "Obama's Social Security Talk Is Turning Voters Off, Pollsters Say." It will turn them off even more in 2012, when Republicans spend millions reminding voters that the president broke his own unequivocal campaign pledge not to raise the retirement age or cut cost-of-living benefits. ("Let me be clear," said candidate Obama. "I will not do either.")

Why is this even an open question? Somehow, ideas that are widely rejected by the American public remain popular inside the Beltway Bubble. These ideas are usually mislabeled as "centrist" and "pragmatic" to give them mileage with credulous policymakers and journalists. (How can ideas be "centrist" when they're opposed by Democrats, Republicans, and independents by 70 percent to 80 percent overall? And how can they be be "practical" when the program's Chief Actuary under Ronald Reagan says they're not necessary or appropriate, and that lifting the payroll cap is a better approach?)

The latest attempt to push Social Security cuts tries to claim that these cuts aren't just "centrist" -- they're progressive, too. It's an intellectually dishonest work that wouldn't deserve attention if Obama's new chief of staff, JPMorgan executive Bill Daley, hadn't been a Board of Trustees member for the organization that authored it. Daniel Marans deconstructed it, so we won't repeat his work here. If anything he was too kind. (On the other hand, I did think that organization's suggestion that members of both parties sit together for the State of the Union was pretty sweet.)

It would be comforting to be able to say that this is all a misunderstanding and that the president will keep his promise to defend Social Security. But we can't do that. His silence about Social Security, especially after Harry Reid's stemwinding defense of the program, is disturbing. Reid and other members of the Senate and House are on the front line, and any attempt by Obama to triangulate and propose "bipartisan" cuts will devastate them. That's why there are reports like The Hill's of a strategic split between the president and Democrats in Congress: They're afraid he's going to sell them out for a personality-driven reelection campaign that suits his needs, not his party's or the country's.

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#1. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

We lost the WH w/o even having an election.

Of course the First black POTUS would be an Uncle Tom.

How could it have been otherwise? 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-21   11:32:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

An Arab Uprising Against the Hand-in-Hand Couple of Dictatorship and Neo-Liberalism

The Tunisian people's uprising is in part an answer against the vicious police state in Tunisia run by the dictator Zine Al-Abidine Bin Ali. In part, the Tunisian uprising is also an answer to the hideous neo-liberal model of economic development that was imposed by Bin Ali in Tunisia. In this regard, the U.S. and the E.U. were the primary benefactors of the harsh economic measures imposed in Tunisia by Bin Ali.

Wait til you find out that Tunisia's not an Outlier? Coming to a theatre near you. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-21   11:33:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#2)

Up until 2011, Tunisia has consistently been paraded and touted as an ideal state and as a model of success and development by the U.S., the E.U., the World Bank, and the International Monetary Fund, amongst others. Never once have the human right violations, the murders, and the repression in Tunisia been criticized by any of these bodies or their officials.

Up until after Bin Ali fled (January 14, 2010), the mainstream media in North America, Western Europe, Australia, and the Arab World have mentioned nothing about the brutal repression in Tunisia. Inversely, the mainstream media has white-washed most of the Bin Ali regime's crimes and instead talked about Tunisia as a success story. The Guardian, after Bin Ali ran away to Saudi Arabia from Tunisia, gave a overview of the type of repression Bin Ali directed against Tunisians:

Well, at leaast the Tunisian Stock Markets no longer manipulated. It's Closed! BWHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

When the Imperial City falls, I wonder where they'll take the gold? 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-21   11:35:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3)

And on fucking with our Social Security. The last line of defense of the poor:

*

We reject this decision which is based on an undemocratic constitution, not a peoples’ one, which has been violated many times and does not guarantee the rights of all national opinions in the country; *

Our rejection of the domination of the ruling party over the political life of the country, represented by all symbols in the current government and its lackeys; *

The public election of a provisional local council in order to manage all city affairs and to work at a local level, and in coordination at regional and national level, to maintain the normal functioning of civilian life, economic, cultural and political life in the country until the drafting of a new constitution of a democratic and popular character, which will pave the way for elections to ensure the peaceful transfer of power and without a monopoly over it, and ensures that all the national parties are represented.

From the town of Sidi Bou in Tunisia. That'll work. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-21   11:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mcgowanjm (#2) (Edited)

Couple of Dictatorship and Neo-Liberalism

As opposed to Dictatorship and Socialism which exists almost everywhere else in Africa and the Middle East.

That Neo-Liberal economy has given Tunisia one of the highest per capital incomes in Africa and the Middle East. The people have become so well to do that they can afford to start thinking about political freedom as well.

The same thing happened with the Asian Tigers and many Latin America countries in the 1980s and 1990s as growing prosperity led to democracy replacing dictatorships from Chile to Taiwan.

This is the way the world works.


"It's very important to remember the law is not simply what powerful people would want others to believe it is." -- Julian Assange

jwpegler  posted on  2011-01-21   11:45:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: jwpegler (#5)

An Arab Uprising Against the Hand-in-Hand Couple of Dictatorship and Neo-Liberalism

This is the way the world works.

No. This is:

Aristide is ready to come any time, and hopes Haitian and South African officials let him. Of course, Washington controls all Haitian affairs. The Bush administration ousted him in 2004, militarily occupied the country with proxy Blue Helmet paramilitaries, banished him abroad, and thus far Obama won't let him back. One word from him changes everything. So far it's not forthcoming.

But the USEmpire does collapse by the day. Labor has the veto, but can't put in the new leader. MilITARY will do that. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-22   8:54:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: All (#6)

#12. To: jwpegler (#10)

Secession and bankruptcy have nothing to do with each other.

Oh yes they do.

a BK State is no different from an Insolvent one.

Both kinds are defaulting on a debt. A debt to who?

Who could be more powerful than the state?

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-22   8:55:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mcgowanjm (#7)

Who could be more powerful than the state?

God


"It's very important to remember the law is not simply what powerful people would want others to believe it is." -- Julian Assange

jwpegler  posted on  2011-01-22   10:08:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: jwpegler (#8)

Who could be more powerful than the state?

God

And thank you.

The Universe is altruistic which means humans not appreciating reality don't stand a chance.

So who's side is god on here?: 8D

"The next few days will be crucial. If the revolutionary movement does not advance in a bold manner and poses clearly the question of taking power, then, slowly but surely, the forces of the ruling class will reclaim the authority they have lost. A situation of dual power cannot last indefinitely. The Tunisian people have a rich revolutionary history, but every uprising and general strike has been followed by a period of concessions and trickery, and then the ruling class reasserting its power again, through brutal repression. This is the time to put an end to this cycle and throw the Tunisian ruling class into the dustbin of history.

Long live the People; Long live the workers and youth; Long live the Revolution

Jorge Martín

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-22   10:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: jwpegler (#8)

Who could be more powerful than the state?

God

"Yet you should not be discouraged if you speak what ought to be obvious truths and are condemned for it. Once those who guard the flame of America's self-delusions and endless lies have reduced you to a tenth-rate Bill Cosby appearing in an interminable series of pudding commercials, you too will be celebrated.

They'll only do that after they've killed you, of course.

America. One fucking great country."

Yeah, I look forward to administering to god's flock in hell. ;}

In the meantime, the Health of the State is war, with god no where to be seen.

baby doc flown into Haiti while Aristeide left in S Africa. What more do you need.

Welcome to god's revolution, jw. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-22   10:48:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: mcgowanjm (#9)

The Universe is altruistic

No, the universe is a very violent place with asteroids, comments, pulsars, black holes and super novas wreaking havoc everywhere you look.


"It's very important to remember the law is not simply what powerful people would want others to believe it is." -- Julian Assange

jwpegler  posted on  2011-01-22   10:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: jwpegler (#11) (Edited)

The Universe is altruistic

No, the universe is a very violent place with asteroids, comments, pulsars, black holes and super novas wreaking havoc everywhere you look.

You mis understand. Two ways.

Nothing man can even think about is more beautiful than the cosmos.

Two:

"The weird cloud is dubbed Hanny's Voorwerp - Hanny's Thing in Dutch - and is the only visible part of a 300,000-light-year-long streamer of gas stretching around the galaxy, called IC 2947. It's the size of our Milky Way galaxy, and its bright green color is caused by glowing oxygen.

It's visible courtesy of a beam of light from the galaxy's core, which is illuminating it in rather the same way as a beam of sunlight lights up dust in the air. But this beam comes from a quasar - a bright, energetic object powered by a black hole - which may actually have turned off about 200,000 years ago.

Providing a rather pretty color combination is the yellowish-orange area at the tip of Hanny's Voorwerp, which is a pocket of star clusters covering an area a few thousand light- years wide. The youngest stars are a couple of million years old.

An interaction between IC 2947 and another galaxy about a billion years ago may have created Hanny's Voorwerp and fueled the quasar. The Hubble image shows that IC 2947 has been disturbed, with complex dust patches, warped spiral arms, and regions of star formation around its core - all suggesting the aftermath of a galaxy merger."

My Gods trump yours. We're no more than yeast. And we can't even manage our own little planet in our on little orbit around our on little solar system.

Which means unless you can produce your 'god' the state is the most powerful entity now that we're dealing with. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-23   9:23:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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