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Title: Kill the Bill, ObamaCare Repealed!
Source: The Politico
URL Source: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47831.html
Published: Jan 19, 2011
Author: CARRIE BUDOFF BROWN
Post Date: 2011-01-19 18:15:41 by Happy Quanzaa
Keywords: Die ObamaCare, Die!, Kill the Bill
Views: 14078
Comments: 28

House passes health law repeal


House Republicans passed a bill to repeal President Barack Obama’s health care plan Wednesday. | AP Photo

House Republicans passed a bill to repeal President Barack Obama’s health care plan Wednesday, taking their first major step toward rolling back the massive overhaul that has dominated the American political landscape for almost two years.

The vote was 245 to 189, and unanimous GOP opposition gave the vote the same partisan feel of the March vote to pass the law, underscoring once again the hardened political lines of the health care debate. Only three Democrats backed the repeal, a smaller number than Republicans had once predicted.

The bill will head next to the Senate, where Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has promised to block it. If it did receive a vote, the repeal bill would be unlikely to draw support from even a majority of senators. Even so, House Republican leaders have challenged Reid to give the bill a vote since Democrats, who control the chamber, have little to fear.

Republicans rejected a procedural maneuver by the Democratic minority to make repeal ineffective unless a majority of the House and Senate withdraw from the federal health benefits program within 30 days after passage by each chamber.

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) said the effort was “an attempt to derail an appeal of the Obamacare bill.”

House members flooded the floor throughout the day, delivering short but occasionally impassioned speeches that echoed their party’s talking points.

Rep. Lee Terry (R-Neb.) called the law “a trillion-dollar tragedy.”

Rep. John Duncan (R-Tenn.) described it as “job-killing” and “socialistic.”

Rep. Kevin Duncan (R-Texas) said “health care is too important to get it wrong, and Obamacare got it wrong.”

But Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) took the debate to a new level late Tuesday night, suggesting to an empty House floor that Republican rhetoric around health care reform is akin to Nazi propaganda that fed anti-Semitism during World War II.

“They say it’s a government takeover of health care, a big lie just like Goebbels,” Cohen said, referring to a Nazi propagandist. “You say it enough, you repeat the lie, you repeat the lie, and eventually, people believe it. Like blood libel. That’s the same kind of thing.”

Reps. Frank Pallone (D-N.J.) and Cliff Stearns (R-Fla.) agreed Wednesday afternoon that the health reform law creates jobs, but sparred on their merits.

Pallone said it’s a good thing that the new law creates jobs in the health care sector. He also said he was glad to hear Stearns say that the law will create jobs, a point, he says, Republicans won’t concede.

But Stearns fired back, saying the measure creates the wrong kind of jobs.

“Perhaps the gentleman of New Jersey didn’t listen to me when I just spoke,” Stearns said. “It’s creating 150 new government agencies. And these are all government jobs. When we talk about job creation here, that’s government jobs.”

The House will vote Thursday to instruct four committees to draft alternative health care proposals that reflect Republican priorities, such as reducing medical malpractice lawsuits, prohibiting the denial of coverage to people with preexisting conditions and barring the use of taxpayer money for abortions.

But House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said Republicans won’t put a deadline on drafting an alternative to the Democrats’ health care reform law.

“I don’t know that we need artificial deadlines set up for the committees to act,” Boehner said. “We expect them to act in an efficient way, allowing all of their members on their committees to be heard, both Democrats and Republicans.”

Republicans introduced alternatives to the health reform legislation in the last Congress but have said they want to start those conversations anew in the several House committees with jurisdiction over health care.

Democrats tried to score some late political points amid the repeal vote by calling on members to give up their health benefits — the very kind of government-run health care Republicans rail against.

“It’s time for those who support repeal to give up the federal health benefits they currently enjoy as Members of Congress – the same benefits and protections they are voting to take away from millions of Americans,” a House Democratic leadership aide said. “Americans have a right to know that those who support repeal are willing to live without the same benefits they are denying their constituents.”

Simmi Aujla contributed to this report. (1 image)

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#1. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)

This sounds like a cynical bone tossed to the unwashed. This won't get past the Senate. Business as usual.

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-19   18:21:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Rudgear (#1)

They look pretty damned happy in the photo. Like they think they've done something.

Your tag line is stupid.

We The People  posted on  2011-01-19   18:28:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: We The People (#2)

"They look pretty damned happy in the photo. Like they think they've done something."

So do my ferrets when they are destroying the insoles they pull from my shoes if I forget and leave them in carpet shark range.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-19   18:41:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Fairy Mike (#3) (Edited)

So do my ferrets when they are destroying the insoles

How about your gerbils when they're eating the insoles of your asshole, are they happy then too?

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2011-01-19   18:46:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Happy Quanzaa (#4)

Any gerbils finding their way into my abode will go to gerbil heaven by way of ferret fangs.

So nice you are into rodents, but I prefer carnivores.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-19   18:48:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Gerbil Mike (#5)

but I prefer carnivores

Like in one of those dog doing the girl shows they have down in Tijuana?

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2011-01-19   18:53:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Happy Quanzaa (#6)

Only been there once. And at age 22 in Tijuana I still had not drunk my first alcoholic drink, or been to any sort of bar.

I'm the oldest of six, and battled a toxic alcoholic growing up. Which is why a toxic and hateful troll like you is merely amusing, and poses no real challenge to deal with.

I did pass up a chance to see a snake/girl show in Bankok, Thailand in the Army though. I prefered to do the tour of the Temple, and see the sight to seeing something as dumb as that.

But, I'm sure you wold of been there and been the highest tipper.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-19   19:00:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: We The People (#2)

Like they think they've done something.

If the Senate votes to pass it, then they will have.

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-19   19:08:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Rudgear (#1)

This sounds like a cynical bone tossed to the unwashed. This won't get past the Senate. Business as usual.

Yep. In their first 3 weeks they've read the constitution, passed a symbolic repeal, and offered nothing that will actually reduce the deficit or create jobs.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-01-19   21:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: go65 (#9)

Yep. In their first 3 weeks they've read the constitution, passed a symbolic repeal, and offered nothing that will actually reduce the deficit or create jobs.

You know, its kind of creepy the sheer number of times you post something, you always get it wrong.

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-19   21:18:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Rudgear (#10)

You know, its kind of creepy the sheer number of times you post something, you always get it wrong.

You are right, I forgot to add that they also backed off their pledge to cut $100 billion in spending.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-01-19   22:18:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Rudgear (#1)

This sounds like a cynical bone tossed to the unwashed. This won't get past the Senate. Business as usual.

Its possible something could occur in the way of an amendment to Healthcare.
Barky can Veto aswell in concert with the Senate's blocking manuever.

To keep the illusion of representation,.....the Bankers may give some concession and raid elsewhere's.
Social Security is what the Bankers really really want to get at.
Webster Tarpley opines that they have every intention on fooling the American public with fake struggles in legislation,...while targets are eventually obtained over time windows.
The sheeple drink the koolaid that the Hill is actually fighting for them.

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2011-01-19   22:55:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Parrot with speed dial (#12)

Its possible something could occur in the way of an amendment to Healthcare.

I just heard Wendel Porter say the same thing.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2011-01-19   23:30:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)

Congrats! Now we're back to Zero!

Where the only health care is Emergency Room.

Good luck on that Military. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-20   8:17:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lucysmom (#13)

Its possible something could occur in the way of an amendment to Healthcare.

I just heard Wendel Porter say the same thing.

Single Payer Public Option VA for all.

The only amendment that would mean anything. ;}

In the meantime, expect increased BK's and despair.

You have to work damn hard to get a 13% approval rating.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-20   8:20:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: mcgowanjm (#15)

BK's??

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-01-20   8:42:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Fred Mertz (#16)

BK's??

Bankruptcies. Health Care bills the no. 1 reason.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-20   9:11:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: mcgowanjm (#17)

Okay, that was my guess. Thanks.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-01-20   9:15:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: mcgowanjm (#15)

Single Payer Public Option VA for all.

The only amendment that would mean anything. ;}

Wendell says no.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=blSkFY_pvmE

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2011-01-20   10:35:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: lucysmom, All (#19)

Wendell says no.

Wendell can eat shit and bark at the moon for all I care. ;}

We Have A (Fascist) Command Economy Filed under: Bailout War, Corporatism, Health Racket Bailout, Neo-feudalism, Resource Fascism — Tags: austerity, fascism, neoliberalism — Russ @ 6:39 am

1. I mean that in a precise sense. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-20   10:52:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)

Strange. At the same time they had the opportunity to remove themselves and other federal employees from government controlled health care and failed to do so.

I wonder why if it's so bad for us it's so good for them?

“Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.” - Sarah Palin

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-01-20   10:52:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mcgowanjm (#20)

Did you watch the video?

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2011-01-20   10:54:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: lucysmom (#22)

To: mcgowanjm

Did you watch the video?

I went to 3:29 and 'the exaggerated since of confidence' bs.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-20   11:02:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: lucysmom (#22)

Here's the Bottom Line.

State Health Care and SS was 'invented' by Otto Von Bismarck who realized that the first requirement of a citizen's army was that they be fit to fight.

Our Military increasingly relies on Mercs. And no nation can do that for any length of time even as our 'world policy' is now a permanent war state.

Fat toothless idiots make for USEmpire defeat.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-20   11:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: mcgowanjm (#23)

I went to 3:29 and 'the exaggerated since of confidence' bs.

Wendell begins around 4:00

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2011-01-20   11:15:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: lucysmom (#25)

For you, LM, I watched the entire thing.

Wendell Potter said nothing about Single Payer Public Option VA for all.

And of course, if I told Potter that the Insurance Industry would have to be destroyed first, his answer to me would be interesting.

From Banking to Insurance to Health care to Food to now Austerity, here's how it works:

*The health racket bailout. Congress artificially commodified health care by propping up zombie “insurance” rackets(see Nixon Haldeman HMO's;}. They did this first with an antitrust exemption which was meant to shield them from any market competition. Now this bailout, assisted by a corrupt judiciary, is trying to eliminate market competition in the form of non-participation. The government’s command goal is to maximize the forced market for the worthless Stamp, the mandated “insurance” policy, while stripping all cost controls and restrictions on it.

(The favorite lie of these corrupt judges and other system hacks, that “Congress didn’t create this market”, is one of the most brazen direct lies we’ve heard in recent times.)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-20   11:29:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: All (#26)

We worked for every cent that exists.

They stole every cent they have, and want to steal every cent still outstanding.

But if we let them steal the rest, then I guess Ayn Rand would be proven right, and they really were entitled after all.

So that’s the goal of neoliberalism. That’s the nature and the goal of today’s command economy. I think we can see why the term “fascist” would also be appropriate for it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-20   11:30:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: lucysmom (#13)

Its possible something could occur in the way of an amendment to Healthcare.

I just heard Wendel Porter say the same thing.

BILL MOYERS: But you had, all these years, seen premiums rising. People purged from the rolls, people who couldn't afford the health care that Cigna and other companies were offering. This is the first time you came face to face with it?

WENDELL POTTER: Yeah, it was. You know, certainly, I knew people, and I talked to people who were uninsured. But when you're in the executive offices, when you're getting prepared for a call with an analyst, in the financial medium, what you think about are the numbers. You don't think about individual people. You think about the numbers, and whether or not you're going to meet Wall Street's expectations. That's what you think about, at that level. And it helps to think that way. That's why you-- that enables you to stay there, if you don't really think that you're talking about and dealing with real human beings.[excerpt end]

Parrot: Was listening to a Interview on Radio Liberty - Dr. Russell Blaylock - Attack Vaccines.
Blaylock mentioned that the Aluminum and Mercury in Vaccines did more than cause Autism ,...it blew out Immune systems and cause Type 1 and Type 2 Diabetes.
he said Untold Millions around the world would be getting Diabete's,...and then the needed Insulin may not be available,.....meaning for certain,....untold Millions will die ,...not maybe,....will!

When we see the game/racket that is run via Corp/Gov Healthcare,...and then the obvious tier of Malthusian Genocide,
its obvious the business side must need mindless automatons to push paper and legislation.
Yet,...its evident aswell that these are also sycophants who know exactly what they are doing and are quite competitive in their malthusian practice.

VA hospitals are filled with young men and women the Military has doomed with the stacked vaccines they were required to take.

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2011-01-20   12:44:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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