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Title: Jeb Bush: GOP needs to reach out to Latinos now
Source: Associated Press
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Published: Jan 13, 2011
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MIAMI (AP) -- Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush told a Republican gathering Thursday evening that the time is now to connect better with Latino voters, not two months before the general election.

Bush is co-chairing a conference Friday of the new Hispanic Action Network, part of the GOP's latest efforts to forge ties with the growing number of Latino voters. The conference will focus on trade, immigration, media outreach and education.

"Typically what happens in politics is you're working hard and you say, 'Oh gosh, we better start working at campaigning in the Hispanic community,' and it's like Sept. 15," he told the crowd at the elegant Biltmore Hotel in the Miami suburb of Coral Gables. "This is not about politics. This is about the conservative cause. If you look over the horizon over the next 10 or 20 years...without an active involvement of Hispanics, we will not be the governing philosophy."

The Hispanic Action Network is backed by former Minnesota Sen. Norm Coleman, whose American Action Network funneled more than $30 million in campaign funds to Republicans in about 30 congressional races last year.

With the Latino population growing in swing states such as Nevada, Colorado and Florida, Republicans need to chip away at Hispanics' overall 2-1 preference for Democrats to have any hope of capturing the presidency.

Democrats are confident their party's efforts on health care, education and the economy will continue to appeal to Hispanic voters, whom they believe have been turned off by Republican campaign attacks on illegal immigrants.

But Bush and other Republicans have long maintained their party is a natural fit for Hispanics, particularly recent immigrants. They cite the party's social conservatism, anti-abortion stance and support for private school vouchers and lower taxes. Voters last year elected several Latino Republicans to prominent posts, including U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida and New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez.

Bush's group is not the only conservative organization focusing on Hispanic outreach.

House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a possible 2010 presidential candidate, announced a similar effort in Washington, D.C., last month with his Americanos group. The conservative Heritage Foundation also now has a Spanish Web site, Libertad.org. Meanwhile, Alfonso Aguilar, former President George W. Bush's first citizenship and immigration czar, runs the Latino Partnership for Conservative Principles.

The former president, who is Jeb Bush's brother, had a stronger and more successful Hispanic outreach program than almost any other national Republican.

Jeb Bush, who is fluent in Spanish and met his Mexican-born wife Columba when he taught English in her homeland, said reaching out "is about more than running ads in the Spanish-language media. It's also about showing people you want them to be part of the effort, putting in the time even when people aren't looking." And, Bush added, "it means using rhetoric that doesn't turn people off."

He told The Associated Press "the more the merrier" as far as outreach programs go. Unlike Gingrich, Bush has ruled out running for president in 2012.

Of next year's crop of likely GOP presidential contenders, only former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty is scheduled to speak at the conference, where more than 600 are likely to attend.

But Republican groups have their work cut out for them following an election year in which Republican Senate candidate Sharon Angle of Nevada ran ads portraying illegal immigrants as thuggish gang members, and Hispanic voters overwhelmingly sided with Sen. Michael Bennet against Republican Ken Buck, a former county prosecutor who had tried to deport more illegal immigrants by seizing income-tax returns from accountants that catered to Spanish speakers. The plan was later thrown out by a court.

The House Republican leadership took a symbolic step toward bridging the gap with Latinos last week in bypassing Republican Rep. Steve King of Iowa as the next chairman of the Judiciary Committee's subcommittee on immigration. King once suggested on the House floor that an electrified border fence would stop illegal immigrants, likening it to the practice used to corral livestock.

"Obviously there was a message sent with Steve King not being selected for chair," said Aguilar, who is attending the conference. "But now the question is beyond ending harsh rhetoric: Will they actively propose a conservative proposal that goes beyond border control and domestic enforcement to a temporary work status."

As president, George W. Bush unsuccessfully pushed for sweeping immigration reform. But so far, the only new Republican proposal on immigration has come from a group of state lawmakers who are hoping for a Supreme Court ruling that would end the granting of automatic citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants.

Simon Rosenberg, head of the liberal-leaning NDN organization, applauded the efforts of Republicans such as Jeb Bush to reach Latinos.

"It would be bad for the Latino community to only have one political party working with them," he said.

But Rosenberg questioned the notion that Hispanics have more in common with conservatives, noting that many Hispanics lack health insurance and will benefit from the Democrats' recent health care overhaul.

He said the GOP needs more than improved outreach.

"There is a reactionary strain in the Republican Party that is angry about how the country is changing," he added, referring to the effects of immigration. "We are moving toward a majority nonwhite country. That is very difficult for some people to accept. And those people tend to be more Republican."

Bush and Gingrich support comprehensive immigration reform, but GOP leaders must still satisfy those who want to focus mainly on border security, including new Florida Gov. Rick Scott.

Scott was among the keynote speakers Thursday night. Other speakers include the co-chair, former Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez, as well as Puerto Rican Gov. Luis Fortuno, former Colombian President Alvaro Uribe and Texas Sen. John Cornyn.

Coleman said he's proud of the diverse perspectives the conference will offer and hopes it leads to serious debate.

"So much of immigration is about tone," he said. Coleman added that Florida's Rubio and New Mexico's Martinez talk about immigration and border security "but in a tone that is helpful and respectful."

But neither Rubio nor Martinez will be at the conference, nor will newly elected Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval, another Hispanic GOP star. Coleman said both Sandoval and Martinez have just begun their jobs and couldn't get away. A spokesman for Rubio said the senator would be working on official business outside of South Florida but declined to provide details. Subscribe to *Tea Party On Parade*

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#118. To: sneakypete, Mad Dog, mustelid (#117)

This is at least the 4th forum I have seen Ferret post on,and he NEVER tells a lie

What a crock of shit!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-16   18:47:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Mad Dog (#107)

I hope that you and yours are kicking ass man.

Thanks, and right back at you. And thanks for telling me the story.

It seems the rules are whatever Goldi says they are at the moment, except for the ones on the homepage, which don't count at all.

Your tag line is stupid.

We The People  posted on  2011-01-16   19:39:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: sneakypete (#117)

Hey FUCKWAD.

Your little bitch faggot mikey has ADMITTED ON THIS VERY SITE THAT HE IS A LYING FRAUD.

NOW call me a LIAR again you useless cunt.

Then I'm supposed to look them up and bring them to you hat in hand for YOUR approval you noxious arrogant cunt?

FUCK YOU, you vile cunt.

Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free!

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-01-16   20:12:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: sneakypete (#92)

Good point. It's probably the only thing that keeps him from Sterno 24/7.

Did Caribou Barbie drop him some from her helicopter before going polar bear hunting?

meguro  posted on  2011-01-17   0:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Mad Dog (#120)

Your little bitch faggot mikey has ADMITTED ON THIS VERY SITE THAT HE IS A LYING FRAUD.

NOW call me a LIAR again you useless cunt.

Once again you are proving you are a liar,and it was established a long time ago that you are a absolute punk.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-01-17   0:18:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: meguro (#121)

Did Caribou Barbie drop him some from her helicopter before going polar bear hunting?

No,but you might want to email her and suggest that he would make GREAT wolf bait if she staked him out covered with bacon grease.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-01-17   0:20:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Ferret Mike (#81)

I take people as they come.

I'll bet you do!!!!!!!!!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-17   0:20:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: sneakypete (#123)

No,but you might want to email her and suggest that he would make GREAT wolf bait if she staked him out covered with bacon grease.

I wonder if she drew crosshairs on him.

meguro  posted on  2011-01-17   11:15:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: no gnu taxes (#104)

So if we invest in a military and preserve national resources, that's socialism to you?

We? Who is this "we" you are talking about?

And what of these "national" resources you speak of? Shouldn't resources belong to those individuals or corporations who own them? Or do you believe in the socialist view that resources belong to all?

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-01-17   12:45:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Ferret Mike, sneakypete (#106)

There is a systemic lack of respect of each other in all of these forums that the same people bounce around on. It would be nice to see that change.

Mike.... My first chat forums back mid 90's was Graham Hancocks site and other ancient civilization collectives.
These sites pit authors,University types,even career academics vs the novice who discerns there is infact,....something wrong with the control mantra's from the Religion of Sciences .
Supposedly Egyptology is the zenith religion,....conform or be slapped down.
When these sycophants are not clubbing everyone like some barbarrian movie,they chat about politics etc.
and tada!!,...they are mostly all* terminal in their absolute-ism brainwashing.
They try to come off all enlightened,..yet rush behind barricades and start shouting Get yer head down reb,....or Allah Akbar,....next year in Jerusalem,...Jesus is Lord!

and like LP or other similar public venues,.....they all tumble around trying to grab other sycophants to join them behind eachs' seperate barricade,..with stupid ass flag raised.
There is co -intelpro type thing at Political forums,...yet at a far removed forum like Graham Hancock,....the menatlly disturbed abound on the planet.

I see a war where you have to choose some defined side,...like redux to one final position/view of life,religion,politics.
People who throw away the straitjacket offered,...and run free to explore everything and enjoy everything,....piss these off endlessly.
They are viewed as dangerous virus to be innoculated by the holy doctors.
sycophants like yuklown and other control cannot allow free thinking and free speech to continue.
The result of that is others discovering the control,...and escaping the mind game/MK Ultra program of the Elites and Bankers.

One poster on another board said LP was Toxic.
Even though the person who said it was a socialist,....the label is correct.
If you were to post on socialist/democrat sites and contest their controls and their sycophants,
They would fall upon you and stalk you like the klown of LP does,....or the religious ones.

The founders said that when a Gov does the continual usurpations/extortions thing
then that gov has died to the Free Living ones,....who must then act to create a New Gov,....or in this case,...A New Republic.
There's a new Star wars game called.....*The Old Republic.
when we peel the various theme's of Star wars,....Republic,,...Trade Federation,...Galactic Empire.
There is some truth of transitions which in the case of Star wars involve an entire galaxy.
Our Entire world is now being deconstructed,....with the NWO yada yada...reconstruction.
Over in our little corner,....the Republic has died,...been given terminal cancer.
Running behind some barricade to join the sycophants under their flag is to be ended in what is comming.
Better to stride out free in whats unfolding,.....be the one in the disaster movie who walks out at the end.

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2011-01-17   13:42:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Parrot with speed dial (#127)

I stated Posting at the Well in 1995, and went on to Time.Com's Politics forum, and from there to Free Republic, DU, Smirking Chimp, the KOS and other places.

Tom Mandel was the person who inspired me to post as much as I have over the years, and at Time.Com/Politics we had the 'Mandel Rule,' that if you called someone a Fascist or Communist as a fast, cheap and easy ad hom style try to discredit them or win an argument/debate, you lost.

I miss those days, as places like eLPee and other venues are dominated by what we called 'Fuckwits' in USENET. People that just stonewalled any discussion and spammed in their talking points over and over and over to disrupt, stall or end discussion.

That is the role people like Yukon, WhiteSands and others take in forum, and it's a shame things have devolved so much in online discussion.

People should be able to speak their piece, and at the worst at the end of a thread agree to disagree and to move on.

Because people always agree on something, and it is far more mature to build on the commonalities of people then it is to pick each other apart over petty differences like hens killing one of their own with pecks to a spot of blood on them.

Good post and thanks for your perspective, it is interesting and appreciated. I'm glad folks like you are around and have a perspective on how this sort of exercise of free speech can be valuable and engaging.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-17   14:20:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Ferret Mike (#128)

I miss those days, as places like eLPee and other venues are dominated by what we called 'Fuckwits' in USENET. People that just stonewalled any discussion and spammed in their talking points over and over and over to disrupt, stall or end discussion.

Isn't that now called "Yukon"?

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-01-17   14:21:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: go65 (#129)

Heh, I like that, if someone acts the role of fuckwit one says, "Yukon rule, you lose."

;-D

That's what I would say if someone posted something like this:

how f***ing dare ANYONE make fun of rimjob after all he's been through! he lost his mind he's dealing with a disgruntled freeper his members turned out to be psychopaths and idiots! and all you people care about is laughing at him! HE'S A HUMAN!!!!!

all you do is sit around and write a bunch of crap about him he has all these fund drives because thats ALL YOU PEOPLE WANT IS MORE MORE MORE MORE

LEAVE RIMJOB ALONE!!!

LEAVE HIM ALONE I'M SERIOUS

(reposted from DU - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php? az=view_all&address=439x216535)

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-17   14:48:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Ferret Mike (#130)

The guy with the red ball cap - what's his screen name?

I've met him several times at FReaker events, but that was years ago. Dr Zoo???

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-01-17   14:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Ferret Mike (#128)

I stated Posting at the Well in 1995, and went on to Time.Com's Politics forum, and from there to Free Republic, DU, Smirking Chimp, the KOS and other places.

Excellent post Mike.
I enjoy learning from the journey of others.
Your post is seen as bragging on certain forums,....which is the fuckwit cover for control,...as opine is dangerous to them.
The above sharing by yourself and my previous post enlarge readership,.
It at least shows a person can participate from say the 90's and still be free and one who is affording others to be free.

Something which has caught my attention recently [last years postings on forums by myself]
is the endgame of the Globalists.
HG Wells is one of their Magi,...but not the zenith Magi.
Wells writes in several of his works of the intended design to use Zionism as a medium to create world rejection of the Jew,Israel and Judaism.
Wells also speaks of the design to end organized religions,...names Christianity and Islam as near ended by the time the Global State is up and running.
I see our period now as one where the Globalists are using these religions to front their sod overturn of the planet.
Terrorism is the overall medium which has all groups now behind the barricades ready for war.
Nationalism is to be included here,...and with that the prospect that China,Russia and maybe even a resurgent German identity may not go allong with the Globalist designs.
so ya....get ready for Intrigues and possibly some nasty wars as these Financiall blocks and nations thrash it out.

Ive been following this derivatives racket and see some linkage to past Cartells which have been flying under the radar yet have major world power.
such as the Nazi/Bormann Flight Capital.
Said to be the worlds largest powerblock,...and probably the reason why US ripped Billions if not Trillions out of the nations guts and gave it to Euro banks,...which could easily be part of the post WW-2 Bilderberg/Nazi Cartell.
The money built China up and tooled it for trade and possibly for future war.
With Russia holding its card tight to its chest.

Were in for a ride now!

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2011-01-17   14:53:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Parrot with speed dial (#127)

f you were to post on socialist/democrat sites and contest their controls and their sycophants, They would fall upon you and stalk you like the klown of LP does,....or the religious ones.

That's exactly what just happened to me on the People's Forum.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-01-17   18:05:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Ferret Mike, Parrot with speed dial (#128)

we called 'Fuckwits'

You're a real charmer, hypocrite! You liberals are such phonies and candyasses.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-17   18:27:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Parrot with speed dial (#132)

"Your post is seen as bragging on certain forums,....which is the fuckwit cover for control,...as opine is dangerous to them."

Yeah, WhiteSands and others have tried to blast me with the ego thing based on the number of times I say 'I' in a post. You are not supposed to have experience enough to list personal experience or thought to some fuckwits here.

As you said, it's a control issue.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-17   18:31:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Ibluafartsky (#134)

Nice mustache, Yukon.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-17   18:35:50 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Ferret Mike (#136)

I can see why you aren't married, candyass!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-17   18:38:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Ibluafartsky (#137)

"I can see why you aren't married, candyass!"

As if you would answer any other way than a typical fuckwit would. ;-D

Heh, as if you would ever post in a manner that would endanger you of being taken seriously.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-17   18:43:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Ferret Mike (#138)

a typical fuckwit

Your hypocricy is further evidence of what a phony you and your lib brethern are, candyass.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-17   18:48:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Ibluafartsky (#139)

"Your hypocricy is further evidence of what a phony you and your lib brethern are, candyass."

Your multiple mis-spellings is a sign of being rattled, or an educational deficit.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-17   18:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Ferret Mike (#140)

being rattled

You are indeed a lib retard, mustelid.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-17   19:00:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Ibluafartsky (#141)

So, being you work to break up discussion you don't approve of, does that make you, 'Flamer retardant' in nature? Just curious, mind you. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-17   19:02:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: Ferret Mike (#142)

being you work to break up discussion.....what we called 'Fuckwits'

Say what.......'Fuckwit' ?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-17   19:05:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Ibluafartsky (#143)

I out grew "I know that you are, but what am I" at age four. But you of the perpetual childishness never need to worry about things like that. ;-)

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-17   19:12:08 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Ibluafartsky (#143)

Why you sometimes can't sleep and post into the night.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-17   19:13:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: Ferret Mike (#144)

but what am I"

I already stated that you are a hypocrite, bigot and phony.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-17   19:16:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: Ferret Mike (#145)

Why you sometimes can't sleep and post into the night.

You're mental illness cannot be hidden, mustelid.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-17   19:17:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Ibluafartsky (#146) (Edited)

And you show really well why fuckwits like you live to make forums work as well at getting somewhere with discussion as hamster exercise wheels do as a conveyance to go from point A to B.

On that note, you are now on the kill file list for the time being. You are not going anywhere with your talking points but in circles, so I don't need to look at your scribblings for a while.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-17   19:22:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Ferret Mike (#148)

fuckwits like you

Your hypocrisy is so pathetic, mustelid. Your phony indignation and accusations lend ever more credence to the fact you are what you falsely accuse others of being.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-17   19:35:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: sneakypete (#133)

f you were to post on socialist/democrat sites and contest their controls and their sycophants, They would fall upon you and stalk you like the klown of LP does,....or the religious ones.

That's exactly what just happened to me on the People's Forum.

Ya....LOL,.....If you see pictures of Robert Fisk with bloody head bandages,

Run! :)

The Socialist apologetics is at least humorous on a dull net day.

Whats that other hero of their's,...oh ya,....Green Helmet holding children,....or is it dead puppy's thrown off cliffs : )

Its comical,.....Hello,...The Juice have some serious weapons and they use them when they are pissed off.

The acid test is to get a socialist to admit that Saudi's do business with Juice bankers.
Still,....the ole use of labels fails when you consider some people
really weird,....like Christiane Amanpour running her camera crew into situations with mortar rounds landing around them,
Christiane would have to bitch slap the crying Chris Matthews if said realities were together in say,....Bosnia.

The left learns the hardway,...like going to visit Somali Pirates......[captured,raped....phone call for money transfer]

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2011-01-17   21:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: Ferret Mike (#135)

Yeah, WhiteSands and others have tried to blast me with the ego thing based on the number of times I say 'I' in a post. You are not supposed to have experience enough to list personal experience or thought to some fuckwits here.

As you said, it's a control issue.

Yeah,...you have to wonder just how their Forefathers sat thru those 3 hour long Reich speeches by Hitler,Goebbels.
Maybe some just held pictures of Himmler and channeled the power of the Holy Lance.

Shift:
Being an ardent history fan,....I do like the Art Deco movement of the pre war period and what remained after.
There is something about the design forms which captivate.
some of it is haunting like,....especially in black/white and grays.
Have viewed color images of that period of buidlings,....rooms,..statues,...even the way cool radios with great glowing orange colors and glowing yellow.
The other day,....saw this on the net,....oh oh

from stevequayles site....[No,..I'm not a follower of steve : )]

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2011-01-17   21:40:44 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Ferret Mike (#138) (Edited)

"I can see why you aren't married, candyass!"

As if you would answer any other way than a typical fuckwit would. ;-D

When he pulls that on me I like to remind him that his Secret Santa,Barney Frank, is also married.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-01-18   9:22:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: Ferret Mike (#142)

'Flamer retardant'

I think you are 180 off on that one. I think secret flamer is closer to the truth since he/she/it/multiple choice can't seem to make a post without mentioning male genitalia and otherwise trolling for online homo dates.

BTW,I don't have to ping it.I OWN it. It reads every word I post.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-01-18   9:25:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: Parrot with speed dial, Ferret Mike (#150)

The left learns the hardway,

I disagree. They NEVER learn. They are incapable of learning because they secretly recognize that the whole foundation their beliefs and their lives are based on are lies.

Socialism IS Communism-Lite,and Communism DOES morph into fascism once the communists take control.

Plus,the base of socialism,share equally,is against human nature,and only works within small groups like families or small tribes. You can NOT get people to agree to give up food or anything else for their own children in order to provide food for the children of people they don't know and will never see.

In a small rural community a farmer may well give a milk cow to a neighbor who has lost his milk cow,but he sure as hell ain't going to be willing to give up that milk cow to a farmer than lives 1,000 miles away.

The undeniable TRUTH is that if you are going to operate a government like that for a large widespread population that it can NOT be done without force.

If you have to use the force of government it is no longer a group of hippies having a group hug and congratulating each other on how "evolved" they are. You have a fascist police state.

Deep down they know this,but they can never admit it because admitting it would mean they would have to stop feeling so good and superior about themselves.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-01-18   9:35:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: Parrot with speed dial (#151)

Being an ardent history fan,....I do like the Art Deco movement of the pre war period

I do,too. Here is one of my cars that is a "keeper". It is a unmodified 1938 Ford "humpback" tudor sedan. It literally took me years to find one that wasn't hotrodded,restored,or needing too much. After all,if I have to do a lot of bodywork,rebuilding engines and running gear,etc,etc,etc,it is no longer an original car and I might as well restore or hot rod it.

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"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-01-18   9:42:55 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: sneakypete (#117)

LOL!

Hey little "man" FUCKWAD.

Your little bitch faggot mikey has ADMITTED ON THIS VERY SITE THAT HE IS A LYING FRAUD. Among other things YOUR little bitch has admitted to posing as a female poster on other sites as a matter of course.

That's called LYING you simpering cunt.

NOW call me a LIAR again you useless cunt.

Then I'm supposed to look them up and bring them to you hat in hand for YOUR approval you noxious arrogant cunt?

FUCK YOU, you vile cunt.

There are alot of punks on this site little "man" and YOU are the biggest punk of all.

You say that faggot mikey has NEVER lied.

LOL! You are an absurd and deeply stupid LYING piece of shit little "man".

You can't, (nobody can fool), know if a person has or has not lied, unless they admit that they have LIED, just like your butt buddy HAS right here little "man".

You have proven again and again that YOU are low born filth because you attack the children of politicians who you dislike.

YOU are a mealy mouthed FRAUD little "man".

Stick EVERYTHING that you have to say up your miserable loser ass you whiny little bitch.

YOU don't have ANY say, about anything about other people's lives, you miserable stupid little twat.

YOUR little bitch faggot mikey is a known SELF DECLARED LIAR you weepy little cunt.

DEAL with it.

Spit ...

Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free!

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-01-20   16:01:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: sneakypete (#154)

I disagree. They NEVER learn. They are incapable of learning because they secretly recognize that the whole foundation their beliefs and their lives are based on are lies.

It would seem that Australia would be poster for that truth.

Bob Chapman of the International Forecaster comented on a recent interview that Aussie's are freaking out now,...finally discovering that China either owns controlling interest in their mines or actually runs/operates them with a mean heavy hand.

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2011-01-20   16:38:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: Mad Dog (#156)

You are boris on drugs.

You live in your own delusional little world where reality rarely intrudes.

Get help.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-01-20   18:58:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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