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Title: Nonsensical Attempt to Tie Loughner to Conservatives Is Deliberate Strategy
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URL Source: http://rightwingnews.com/2011/01/no ... atives-is-deliberate-strategy/
Published: Jan 11, 2011
Author: right wing news
Post Date: 2011-01-11 09:10:05 by no gnu taxes
Keywords: None
Views: 19839
Comments: 42

To the extent Jared Loughner's psychotic views have any political coherence, they are decidedly left wing. Yet liberals have raised a deafening chorus attempting to blame conservatives for the incomprehensible horrors he inflicted. This may be a reflexive reaction by truly unhinged moonbats like Hanoi Jane Fonda and Clarence Dupnik, who can be counted on to blame their ideological opponents for any and all misfortunes. But for others, it is part of a deliberate political strategy.

Timothy McVeigh brought Bill Clinton's first term back from the dead and made the second possible. The goal is to transform Jared Loughner into Obama's Timothy McVeigh.

One veteran Democratic operative, who blames overheated rhetoric for the shooting, said President Barack Obama should carefully but forcefully do what his predecessor did.

"They need to deftly pin this on the tea partiers," said the Democrat. "Just like the Clinton White House deftly pinned the Oklahoma City bombing on the militia and anti-government people."

There being zero evidence of Loughner having anything whatsoever to do with Tea Party politics is an obstacle that progressives hope to overcome with a barrage of the very overheated rhetoric they so piously denounce.

With a few loony exceptions, liberal propagandists are perfectly aware that there is no reason to blame conservatives for Loughner. But they are also aware that most people don't follow the news closely, and are swayed by general impressions of the kind being deliberately created when the media implies over and over again that the Tea Party is somehow responsible.

In politics, perception is reality — even if that perception is based on lies.

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#2. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

Title: Nonsensical Attempt to Tie Loughner to Conservatives Is Deliberate Strategy

Like I said, nothing's gonna change.

And 'Waiting for the 'facts' to come out' is only giving the Batshit Crazy time to get their 'act' together.

Why is Loughner obsessed with grammar?

And a btw. The VERY definition of 'Left Wing Violence' is destruction of infrastructure like the Deepwater Horizon or Military.

Civilian Death is almost Always Fascist.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-11   10:31:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: mcgowanjm (#2)

And 'Waiting for the 'facts' to come out' is only giving the Batshit Crazy time to get their 'act' together.

I agree. The bat shit crazy left is scrambling on this one.

Why is Loughner obsessed with grammar?

Your guess is as good as any. Ask war. He was similarly obsessed.

And a btw. The VERY definition of 'Left Wing Violence' is destruction of infrastructure like the Deepwater Horizon or Military.

If politicians aren't part of the infrastructure to be attacked, you need to ask your Bolshevik brethren back in '17 what they were doing.

Civilian Death is almost Always Fascist.

Fascism and Communism are identical except for one small detail: fascists seek to control the means of production. Like Hussein Soetoro taking over GM, for example. Whereas communists seek to own the means of production. BOTH are leftist ideologies.

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-11   10:41:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Rudgear, All (#3)

I agree. The bat shit crazy left is scrambling on this one.

When the Right Echo Chamber is calling for 'somber reflection'?

You know which way the wind blows.

Put Crazy Uncle Bob in the Basement for now, and delete ALL of his posts.

BWAHAHA. BWAHAHAHA BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-11   11:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mcgowanjm (#4) (Edited)

The following bears repeating since it didn't penetrate the crash helmet you rutinely wear:

And 'Waiting for the 'facts' to come out' is only giving the Batshit Crazy time to get their 'act' together.

I agree. The bat shit crazy left is scrambling on this one.

Why is Loughner obsessed with grammar?

Your guess is as good as any. Ask war. He was similarly obsessed.

And a btw. The VERY definition of 'Left Wing Violence' is destruction of infrastructure like the Deepwater Horizon or Military.

If politicians aren't part of the infrastructure to be attacked, you need to ask your Bolshevik brethren back in '17 what they were doing.

Civilian Death is almost Always Fascist.

Fascism and Communism are identical except for one small detail: fascists seek to control the means of production. Like Hussein Soetoro taking over GM, for example. Whereas communists seek to own the means of production. BOTH are leftist ideologies.

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-11   11:51:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: mcgowanjm (#4)

So, Jimmy, which are you! Fascist or Communist? Do you want to own or just control?

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-11   11:52:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: mcgowanjm (#2)

Civilian Death is almost Always Fascist.

BULLSHIT.

From http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM

HOW MANY DID COMMUNIST REGIMES MURDER?* By R.J. Rummel

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Note that I completed this study in November 1993 while still engaged in collecting democide data. Not all the democide totals I mention here may be complete, therefore. For final figures on communist megamurderers, see my summary Table 1.2 in my Death by Government. For all final estimates, see the summary table in Statistics of Democide

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With the passing of communism into history as an ideological alternative to democracy it is time to do some accounting of its human costs.

Few would deny any longer that communism--Marxism-Leninism and its variants-- meant in practice bloody terrorism, deadly purges, lethal gulags and forced labor, fatal deportations, man-made famines, extrajudicial executions and show trials, and genocide. It is also widely known that as a result millions of innocent people have been murdered in cold blood. Yet there has been virtually no concentrated statistical work on what this total might be.

For about eight years I have been sifting through thousands of sources trying to determine the extent of democide (genocide and mass murder) in this century. As a result of that effort** I am able to give some conservative figures on what is an unrivaled communist hecatomb, and to compare this to overall world totals.

First, however, I should clarify the term democide. It means for governments what murder means for an individual under municipal law. It is the premeditated killing of a person in cold blood, or causing the death of a person through reckless and wanton disregard for their life. Thus, a government incarcerating people in a prison under such deadly conditions that they die in a few years is murder by the state--democide--as would parents letting a child die from malnutrition and exposure be murder. So would government forced labor that kills a person within months or a couple of years be murder. So would government created famines that then are ignored or knowingly aggravated by government action be murder of those who starve to death. And obviously, extrajudicial executions, death by torture, government massacres, and all genocidal killing be murder. However, judicial executions for crimes that internationally would be considered capital offenses, such as for murder or treason (as long as it is clear that these are not fabricated for the purpose of executing the accused, as in communist show trials), are not democide. Nor is democide the killing of enemy soldiers in combat or of armed rebels, nor of noncombatants as a result of military action against military targets.

With this understanding of democide, Table 1 lists all communist governments that have committed any form of democide and gives their estimated total domestic and foreign democide and its annual rate (the percent of a government's domestic population murdered per year). It also shows the total for communist guerrillas (including quasi-governments, as of the Mao soviets in China prior to the communist victory in 1949) and the world total for all governments and guerillas (including such quasi-governments as of the White Armies during the Russian civil war in 1917-1922). Figure 1 graphs the communist megamurderers and compares this to the communist and world totals.

Of course, eventhough systematically determined and calculated, all these figures and their graph are only rough approximations. Even were we to have total access to all communist archives we still would not be able to calculate precisely how many the communists murdered. Consider that even in spite of the archival statistics and detailed reports of survivors, the best experts still disagree by over 40 percent on the total number of Jews killed by the Nazis. We cannot expect near this accuracy for the victims of communism. We can, however, get a probable order of magnitude and a relative approximation of these deaths within a most likely range. And that is what the figures in Table 1 are meant to be. Their apparent precision is only due to the total for most communist governments being the summation of dozens of subtotals (as of forced labor deaths each year) and calculations (as in extrapolating scholarly estimates of executions or massacres).

With this understood, the Soviet Union appears the greatest megamurderer of all, apparently killing near 61,000,000 people. Stalin himself is responsible for almost 43,000,000 of these. Most of the deaths, perhaps around 39,000,000 are due to lethal forced labor in gulag and transit thereto. Communist China up to 1987, but mainly from 1949 through the cultural revolution, which alone may have seen over 1,000,000 murdered, is the second worst megamurderer. Then there are the lesser megamurderers, such as North Korea and Tito's Yugoslavia.

Obviously the population that is available to kill will make a big difference in the total democide, and thus the annual percentage rate of democide is revealing. By far, the most deadly of all communist countries and, indeed, in this century by far, has been Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. Pol Pot and his crew likely killed some 2,000,000 Cambodians from April 1975 through December 1978 out of a population of around 7,000,000. This is an annual rate of over 8 percent of the population murdered, or odds of an average Cambodian surviving Pol Pot's rule of slightly over just over 2 to 1.

In sum the communist probably have murdered something like 110,000,000, or near two-thirds of all those killed by all governments, quasi-governments, and guerrillas from 1900 to 1987. Of course, the world total itself it shocking. It is several times the 38,000,000 battle-dead that have been killed in all this century's international and domestic wars. Yet the probable number of murders by the Soviet Union alone--one communist country-- well surpasses this cost of war. And those murders of communist China almost equal it.

Figure 2 shows the major sources of death for those murdered under communism and compares this to world totals for each source for this century. A few of these sources require some clarification. Deaths through government terrorism means the killing of specific individuals by assassination, extrajudicial executions, torture, beatings, and such. Massacre, on the other hand, means the indiscriminate mass killing of people, as in soldiers machine gunning demonstrators, or entering a village and killing all of its inhabitants. As used here, genocide is the killing of people because of their ethnicity, race, religion, or language. And democide through deportation is the killing of people during their forced mass transportation to distant regions and their death as a direct result, such as through starvation or exposure. Democidal famine is that which is purposely caused or aggravated by government or which is knowingly ignored and aid to its victims is withheld.

In the end, the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. ... The heresy of heresies was common sense.
-- George Orwell, 1984 --

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=16281&Disp=9#C9
ME: THERE IS NO MORE MONEY.
GO65: There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more.

Inescapable conclusion? Socialists are unable to accept reality. I.e., they're INSANE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-01-11   14:29:19 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

"Timothy McVeigh brought Bill Clinton's first term back from the dead and made the second possible. The goal is to transform Jared Loughner into Obama's Timothy McVeigh."

What is disingenuous in this laughable sentence is the fact that Timothy McVeigh was quite the right winger in his own right, as was this shooter in Arizona.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-11   14:43:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Capitalist Eric (#7)

Your out already Jared? (laughing)

Boofer After 5  posted on  2011-01-11   17:17:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ferret Mike (#8)

What is disingenuous in this laughable sentence is the fact that Timothy McVeigh was quite the right winger in his own right, as was this shooter in Arizona.

Yes, mcveigh was.

The shooter from AZ is far-left.

Any statements to the contrary are blatant lies, PERIOD.

In the end, the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. ... The heresy of heresies was common sense.
-- George Orwell, 1984 --

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=16281&Disp=9#C9
ME: THERE IS NO MORE MONEY.
GO65: There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more.

Inescapable conclusion? Socialists are unable to accept reality. I.e., they're INSANE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-01-11   22:04:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Capitalist Eric (#7)

A State is Always by Definition fascist.

We've never seen a Communist state.

Here's Insurgency, which is almost the Only way you've seen a Left Wing Hit:

I threw a cokes and whores party for the bp Monitors in Houston while I replaced Mud with Seawater. Almost effortless.

The Perfect Kill Shot. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-12   10:13:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Capitalist Eric (#10)

The shooter from AZ is far-left.

The shooter is Jewish, which used to be some king of qualifier for Left.

but after Ysrael has copied Nazi tactics ver batem. Not so much.

Loughner member same 140+ Synagogue as Giffords.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-12   10:15:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Rudgear (#6)

So, Jimmy, which are you! Fascist or Communist? Do you want to own or just control?

Hey Ruddy!!!

My bestest bud. Hugs & kisses. 8D

An individual American with ALL of my pre 12122000-9/11 Rights fully intact.

Pagan. I own/control everything being thrown away by the current civilization. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-12   10:18:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Rudgear, All (#5)

The following bears repeating since it didn't penetrate the crash helmet you rutinely wear:

You can rutinely repeat your BS ad nauseum.

It barely works for the MSM/State and you have much fewer resources/ glitzy graphics. 8D

Note how Al Qaeda NEVER NEVER targets Oil infrastructure. Fascist to the bone.

Note how ANY and EVERY oil destruction is ALWAYS labeled 'accident'.

As well as BMW's with Acetylene tanks in the trunk. Oh Yeah!

BMW Explodes in Arlington January 11th, 2011

Two exploding BMWs in two days, within about six miles of each other…

Move along, citizen, nothing to see here?

Perhaps. That’s why we have the Coincidence category.

See: Ashley W. Turton: Energy Lobbyist, Wife of Key White House Aide, Dies in Fire

Via: ARLNow:

THAT would be fascist. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-12   10:23:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mcgowanjm (#14)

As well as BMW's with Acetylene tanks in the trunk. Oh Yeah!

BMW Explodes in Arlington January 11th, 2011

No way! I'll have to look this one up.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-01-12   10:28:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Fred Mertz (#15)

No way!

way.

And crazier. Man 'arrested'. then 'not arrested'.

Just 'a man of interest now'. Who was seen running away from the explosion.

TWO Beamers explode in two days. Same town Arlington.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-12   10:32:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Fred Mertz (#15)

No way! I'll have to look this one up.

Or this:

"Unusual Suicide (local breaking) I don't have a link, and this might not make the local news, but it's so unusual and frightening that I felt compelled to post about it.

We ran a call the other night for a motor vehicle accident. A small car had run off the road and into the woods - I'm in central Vermont if you're wondering. After climbing over fallen branches and hiking through the snow we came up to the victim sitting in the drivers seat. It was late at night and cold.

The car was parked and the ignition off. Hazard lights were blinking and the victim wasn't moving. The car wasn't too damage, but the door was locked. Window punches work wonders and it was nothing but a few seconds before gaining access to him. The smell of beer waifed out at us as soon as the cockpit was exposed, and it was mingled with blood. Our victim was motionless and leaning to the right. "Sir, sir!" Still there was no response. A gun caught my eye on the floorboard, and upon further inspection the guys brains were leaking down the right side of his head. So much for this being an accident. The guy looked like a foreigner and an attache case lay on the passenger seat. Papers and files were scattered everywhere.

Since this was a DOA the ME (medical examiner) was notified and dispatched to the scene. We hung around doing our paperwork and noted a few things in the car. The guy was Russian and apparently was a financial advisor for Merryl Lynch, but here's where it peaked my attention, those files were pure doomer porn. Lists upon lists for survivalist gear and equipment to purchase for someone in the bank. Lots of documents titled with economic collapse, bunker schematics (I shit you not!), and financial crap I knew nothing about.

So guys....WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT OVER THERE AT MERRYL LYNCH???

Seriously spooky. Suicides don't usually make the news, and I can't discuss identifiable details. :(

Megadoom

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-12   11:40:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Capitalist Eric (#10)

"The shooter from AZ is far-left.

Any statements to the contrary are blatant lies, PERIOD."

The authorities are tracing where the money came from for the gun and ammo. I know it was no left wing group that wanted this Congresswoman out of the way.

You can call what you want a lie, but that never changes it from being my honest belief.

This guy was no liberal, and people on the right funded his exploits.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-12   15:48:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: mcgowanjm (#11)

We've never seen a Communist state.

There is no perfectly capitalist system, nor communist system. Reality (and the desire of some people to want to exert control over others), precludes both in their purest form.

However, there are numerous examples of communist states. I could make a list, which of course you'll deny, so I'll not bother.

It's enough that we both know you're wrong.

'Nuff said.

In the end, the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. ... The heresy of heresies was common sense.
-- George Orwell, 1984 --

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=16281&Disp=9#C9
ME: THERE IS NO MORE MONEY.
GO65: There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more.

Inescapable conclusion? Socialists are unable to accept reality. I.e., they're INSANE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-01-12   21:52:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Capitalist Eric (#19)

However, there are numerous examples of communist states. I could make a list, which of course you'll deny, so I'll not bother.

It's enough that we both know you're wrong.

You would if you you could, but you can't so you won't.

8D

But we can all so easily name those fascist entities eh?

AAMOF just about every Western Civ State at one time or another.

Capitalism for 500 years until we ran out of virgin earth, trees, oil.

Now what do we do?

"Or, to look at it more optimistically, is this system cannibalism an example of the limits to racketeering?)

The federalism and constitutionalism of this looks impossible, but as in the case of mortgages, we’re no longer in the realm of law and order, but might makes right. Again we see how the only obstacle would be the extent to which the courts retain any integrity.

Would federal courts accept a case in the first place which is so clearly outside their jurisdiction? States are sovereign in their finances, and the federal government has no authority to put them into bankruptcy. Maybe Gingrich means they should submit to binding arbitration as a privatized bankruptcy tribunal, sort of like a globalization cadre under the shadow of which a government alienates its sovereignty and submits to a “structural adjustment”. That’s exactly what’s suggested here for the states, right? "

-volatility 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-12   22:04:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mcgowanjm (#20)

ME: However, there are numerous examples of communist states. I could make a list, which of course you'll deny, so I'll not bother. It's enough that we both know you're wrong.

YOU: You would if you you could, but you can't so you won't.

We could start off with the two most obvious examples: China, and the former Soviet Union.

Because pure communism cannot function in real life, both have already failed, as communist systems. Both turned to modified communism, a.k.a. "socialism."

Game. Set. Match.

In the end, the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. ... The heresy of heresies was common sense.
-- George Orwell, 1984 --

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=16281&Disp=9#C9
ME: THERE IS NO MORE MONEY.
GO65: There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more.

Inescapable conclusion? Socialists are unable to accept reality. I.e., they're INSANE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-01-13   15:22:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Capitalist Eric (#21)

Game. Set. Match. China, and the former Soviet Union.

You can tell me when the revolution happened in China that now makes them our banker. 8D

The 'former' is the key word here.

I would go with Cuba on a Successful Revolution. Communist, even then, not.

"Because pure communism cannot function in real life, both have already failed..."

Pure? LMFAO

I mention this because as 2010 comes to a close, it appears that for the fifth year in a row the peak production year of 2005–in which the world produced oil at a rate of 73.718 mbpd–will once again not be exceeded. This is truly an astonishing result given that the new pricing era for oil began in 2004. For over five years national oil companies and publicly traded oil companies have been free to sell oil into an ever-rising price environment. What’s more intriguing is that OPEC–which currently accounts for about 42% of global supply– has been roughly steady in producing 30-31 mbpd while Non-OPEC, accounting for the majority of world supply at 58% has struggled with decline.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/declining-oil-production-mexico-canada-2011-1#ixzz1AyHGFN00

A 500 year civilization faltering.

A quick fall back to Feudalism underway as we speak:

"He so much reminded me of Ceau_escu in his last days."

And then TEOTWAKI:

the rate of increase in atmospheric CO2 is unprecedented in Earth’s history.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-13   21:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: mcgowanjm (#22)

You can tell me...

I got halfway through the first sentence, and realized you're simply talking more shit.

Back to bozo you go.

Bye-bye.

In the end, the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. ... The heresy of heresies was common sense.
-- George Orwell, 1984 --

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=16281&Disp=9#C9
ME: THERE IS NO MORE MONEY.
GO65: There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more.

Inescapable conclusion? Socialists are unable to accept reality. I.e., they're INSANE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-01-13   21:19:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: All (#22)

If anything has to be taken on faith—if it can’t be analyzed, its premises scrutinized, and the overall argument judged to be sound or unsound—then it’s really no argument at all.

I have the argument that explains why fiscal deficits happen. Moreover, I can explain why fiscal deficits occur in a democracy in a manner which is different from any other sort of regime. My theory can explain why fiscal debts in a democracy grow once they start, and I can explain why this growth in debt inevitably, inexorably leads to the bankruptcy of the democratic regime. Further, I can prove—by sound and valid argumentation—that the United States is going bankrupt right now because of this process.

gonzalolira.blogspot.com/...l-always-go-bankrupt.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-13   21:20:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Capitalist Eric (#23)

I got halfway through the first sentence, and realized you're simply talking more shit.

Back to bozo you go.

Bye-bye.

So Long!!!!!

8D

It’s an overall concept I’ve designated as the Democratic Bankruptcy Paradox: The paradox by which every democracy eventually goes bankrupt—regardless of the people’s will and intention of keeping it from going bankrupt.

That’s why it’s a paradox: The citizens of a democratic state are supposed to control its destiny. They obviously do not want their nation to suffer bankruptcy—yet in spite of their will and intent, democratic states always go bankrupt. Always.

This post will outline my proof of why this is so.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-13   21:21:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: mcgowanjm, Capitalist Eric (#25)

Back to bozo you go.

Bye-bye.

So Long!!!!!

No worries.

"They" can run but they can't hide for long.

"Slowly I turn. Step by step..."

{{{chuckle}}}

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2011-01-13   21:25:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: All (#25)

Auf Wiedersehen!!!!

It is here that I will prove two general conclusions:

• One: Democracies always act in a fiscally incoherent manner.

• Two: Democracies always go bankrupt—without exception.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-13   21:25:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: mcgowanjm, All (#25)

This post will outline my proof of

How is the Gulf Coast evacuation proceeding, mcgoon? Where did the government hide the million fatalities?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-13   21:28:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: All (#27)

As a group, the majority is in favor of adding salt and yeast to the flour, while another majority is in favor of adding eggs and sugar to the flour. But even though no individual would conceivably be in favor of adding yeast and salt as well as eggs and sugar to the flour, that is what the group as a whole is in favor of: A majority wants to add yeast and salt to the flour, while simultaneously, a majority wants to add eggs and sugar to the flour.

And that’s just a big old mess. That’s an incoherence in the democratic decision-making process.

Thus, as a group, we have an incoherent outcome: The majority of the group believes taxes should be cut—and at the same time, the majority of the group thinks the government should deliver more services to the people. All of the members of the group individually do not want a deficit, but as a group their incoherence leads to a deficit.

This is the democratic fiscal incoherence, a situation unique to democracies.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-13   21:29:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: All (#29)

When it finally reaches the point where credit is so cheap, and the cost of resolving the annual fiscal incoherence—politically, emotionally, practically—is higher than the cost of taking on debt, then a subtle crisis point will arise: The democratic regime will “postpone” the resolution of its fiscal incoherence, and instead take on debt.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-13   21:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Capitalist Eric (#23)

Title: Nonsensical Attempt to Tie Loughner to Conservatives Is Deliberate Strategy Source: [None]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That there IS an opposition, a liberal left faction in America all you have to do is look at Arizona,

Now making Mississippi look like Norway.

And the Media trying desperately to describe AZ's gun law or lack of same as a Middle of the Road US policy.

Expect more death. And OMFGPalinites to get as desperate as they are clueless about it. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-13   21:33:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: All (#31) (Edited)

This is the tipping point: This is the first step on the path to ruin for a democracy. It’s a subtle moment, but it’s key—the moment when the democracy decides not to resolve its fiscal incoherence, and instead paper over the incoherence by way of debt.

1975-Once the democratic regime fails to resolve its fiscal incoherence one year and instead covers the shortfall with debt, the democracy enters a debt spiral

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-13   21:33:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Rudgear (#3)

And we STILL don't know if Loughner is a jew.

LMFAO 8D

Well at least it's not a page of questions.

Seems it's now JewishMedia versus StormFront.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

1. News for loughner jew

2. Nate Bloom buries “Loughner is Jewish” 5 hours ago Had it turned out that Loughner had Jewish roots and that he was somehow hostile to these roots (as Tierney suggested) it would have been germane. ... Jewish Telegraphic Agency (blog) - 2 related articles

3. Loughner's Jewish mother? Not so much Jewish Telegraphic Agency (blog) - 7928 related articles - Shared by 20+

4. Jared Lee Loughner: Tea Party Inspired Shooter of Jewish American ... Examiner.com - 383 related articles

5. Loughner Is Jewish But His Synagogue Congregation Chaverim Hid ... 20 posts - 13 authors - Last post: 3 days ago Jared Loughner Is Jewish But His Synagogue Congregation Chaverim and Rabbi Stephanie Aaron And The Media Have Been Caught Hiding This Fact ...

www.whitenewsnow.com/.../...rim-hid-fact-america.html - Cached Jared Loughner is Still Jewish - WhiteNewsNow.com Forums46; Mother Jones Reports Loughner's Friend Says Jared's Mom Is Jewish ...46; Jared Loughner Is Jewish But His Synagogue Congregation Chaverim ...46;

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-13   21:50:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: All (#33)

American supremacists It is amazing how much the two violent racist supremacist groups in the United States, the Jews and the Whites, manage to integrate themselves into each others issues. Of course, they deeply hate each other, but the white supremacists have a grudging admiration for the massive success of ZOG, and the 'scientific anti-Semites' spend a considerable amount of time examining the Jews for hints at how the white supremacists might find some success. Here we have a white supremacist problem - a challenge to the manipulation of violence and threats of violence used in lieu of democracy - that has been completely taken over by the Jews:

1. the raising of the issue of the attack as 'anti-Semitic' due to the Jewishness of the presumed main target; 2. the lightning-fast, if terribly weak, attempt by World Jewry, to disprove the problem that the assassin was almost certainly Jewish; 3. the clumsy - but probably clumsy like a fox (or Fox) - use by Palin of the term 'blood libel', immediately piled on by the usual suspects as being a term, like the Holocaust, that solely belongs to the Jews (with Abe and the concentration camp guard backing off a little as Palin is 'good for the Jews').

I'm surprised Palin didn't claim to be a Holocaust survivor (at which point Elie 'Holocaust winner' Wiesel would have said "Really? What's it feel like?")

The Unintended Inevitable

http://xymphora.blogspot.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-13   21:51:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Brian S (#26)

"They" can run but they can't hide for long.

Which is why, contrary to your claims of putting me on bozo, you continue to write to me.

As if I give a shit what you and your socialist bung-hole buddies think...

In the end, the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. ... The heresy of heresies was common sense.
-- George Orwell, 1984 --

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=16281&Disp=9#C9
ME: THERE IS NO MORE MONEY.
GO65: There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more.

Inescapable conclusion? Socialists are unable to accept reality. I.e., they're INSANE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-01-14   11:49:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Capitalist Eric (#35)

Which is why, contrary to your claims of putting me on bozo, you continue to write to me.

Oh, I took you off 'bozo' on Saturday.

Reading the shit that comes forth from you and your neocons friends is to entertaining to miss, indeed.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2011-01-14   12:51:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Brian S (#36)

Oh, I took you off 'bozo' on Saturday.

Once again, you prove my point.

Thanks for playing!

In the end, the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. ... The heresy of heresies was common sense.
-- George Orwell, 1984 --

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=16281&Disp=9#C9
ME: THERE IS NO MORE MONEY.
GO65: There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more.

Inescapable conclusion? Socialists are unable to accept reality. I.e., they're INSANE.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-01-14   12:57:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: mcgowanjm (#33)

Who asked or stated Loughner was a Jew? Are you projecting again, Jimmy. The bile just foams out of you and into your posts. You and Fairy Mike are identical in that respect. That and your general state of delusion.

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-14   14:41:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Rudgear, All (#38) (Edited)

Who asked or stated Loughner was a Jew?

About 11,300,000 results

http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=Who+asked+or+stated+Loughner+was+a+Jew

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA Fuck. Who hasn't?

Better. Name the %age of articles to your right (literally/figuratively;}columns dedicated to Praise of the bush43 GWOT and the Molesting of wives/daughters if Loughner is Muslim.

And STILL we don't know Loughner's religion. Except we KNOW he ain't no Muslim. 8D If Loughner is Muslim, the US is getting ready to double the Homeland Security Budget.

LMFAO

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-15   10:29:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Rudgear (#38)

Ruddy. What a weird nick name, huh?

Bile? Foam?

So you attack MadDog's. the Nazi from Alaskas when?

LMFAO Zero empathy. And speaking of bile/foam:

"You and Fairy Mike are identical in that respect."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-15   10:34:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: All (#40)

And when are we gonna be 'supportin' our troops' today.

Love when the Media brings up that fake shit.

But how about reporting this?

"BAGHDAD (AP) — Two U.S. soldiers were killed by an Iraqi trooper who opened fire on them during a training exercise Saturday, raising fresh concerns about Iraq's security forces as the Americans prepare to withdraw from the country by the end of this year.

Another soldier was killed Saturday during a military operation in central Iraq, making it one of the deadliest days for U.S. forces in the country in months.

A U.S. statement confirmed that two soldiers were killed and one was wounded in northern Iraq but gave no further details."

And further. The US Media was getting ready for a Iraqi Troops Takin Over their Country Now Media Splash based on a visit to this very same base today! 8D

Oh well, there's always the terror in America angle.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-15   10:37:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: mcgowanjm (#39)

Why would they ask if he were a Jew unless there were reason to do so. Are you and the lame-stream media trying to beat the bushes for an anti-Jew angle to this story only to turn around and scream antisemitism the way Jesse Jackson screams racism?

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-15   10:56:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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