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Title: Dupnik: Giffords Gunman Might Have Accomplice
Source: Arizona Daily Star
URL Source: http://azstarnet.com/news/local/cri ... 8e-11e0-ab28-001cc4c002e0.html
Published: Jan 8, 2011
Author: Arizona Daily Star,
Post Date: 2011-01-08 20:57:44 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 16327
Comments: 39

Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said Saturday evening that the man linked to the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and others might have an accomplice.

"We are not convinced he acted alone," Dupnik said at a news conference.

Dupnik said investigators have reason to believe the 22-year-old suspect whom he would not name came to the scene with someone else. "We have photos," Dupnik said of the gunman's companion.

Nate T. Gray, of the FBI, referred to bringing "those responsible" to justice.

Six people have now died in the attack, said Gray, who is in charge of the FBI office in Phoenix. Five people died at the scene and a 9-year-old girl died at a hospital, said Dupnik.

There was no security at the event, a meet-and-greet outside a Safeway on the northwest side, Gray said. In all, 19 people were shot or injured, Dupnik said.

Two of the people who were wounded have not been identified by authorities, he said.

The surgeon is "cautiously optimistic" that Giffords "may survive," Dupnik said.

Federal Judge John Roll went to mass at Tucson's cathedral, as he did every Saturday, and on his way home decided to stop and say ‘hi' to Giffords, his friend, Dupnik said.

"He was at the wrong place at the wrong time," Dupnik said.

Dupnik called two people who tackled the gunman "were brave individuals, noting that the semi-automatic pistol still had ammunition when the gunman was taken into sheriff's custody.

He said the gunman was a subject of, "some police interest in the recent past," and he has made death threats in the past, but not toward Giffords. There was no reason to worry about the Giffords event in advance, he said. The attack started at 10:10 a.m. amid a crowd of about two dozen people.

The gunman might have planned to shoot himself, Dupnik told reporters.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Right wing terror in action. I would say that if Homeland Security needs to crack down on anyone, it's the Tea Terrorists.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   21:01:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ferret Mike (#1)

Right wing terror in action. I would say that if Homeland Security needs to crack down on anyone, it's the Tea Terrorists.

Arizona. Now the capitol of crazy.

"The one thing that leaps out about Jared Lee Loughner is that he did an enormous amount of damage in a short time with just a pistol."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-08   21:09:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: mcgowanjm (#2) (Edited)

"Arizona. Now the capitol of crazy."

It is one screwed up state. This Congresswoman angered the Tea Terror cells of this state because she got in the way of a GOP sweep. It's not hard to see who wanted her dead, and anyone who supported her intimidated.

It's time for more Democrats to represent that party in Congress. We should have a separate national movement to send money and people to that state to unseat any criminals the Tea Terrorists helped put into power there.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   21:14:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ferret Mike (#3)

We should have a separate national movement to send money and people to that state to unseat any criminals the Tea Terrorists helped put into power there.

Now you advocate overturning election results. There is no place in a representative democracy for intolerant people like you. You and your fellow leftists are disgusting exploiting the shooting to further your extreme views regarding the Tea Party.

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-08   21:17:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Rudgear (#4)

"Now you advocate overturning election results."

Much like the whiners in the GOP side of the House are trying to overturn the fruit of the election result of President Obama's landslide.

The silly thing about you Rud is you don't respect election results that go against you.

The Obama birfer movement was a thinly veiled metaphor that tapped latent racism in the right in this country. In fact, the stable of radical right wing wing nuts in the past few elections have been wedge issues like the bullshit Swift boat crap and all other trumped up games that used negative emotion and hatred to try to work past the process to get a result that is more like what is the fruit of a lynch party.

There will be an election result you will choke on in two years; the one that puts an end to the game the Tea Terrorists are playing now.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   21:25:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ferret Mike (#3)

We should have a separate national movement to send money and people to that state to unseat any criminals the Tea Terrorists helped put into power there.

Don't get me wrong. AZ is a beautiful state and the Pima Co Sheriff did sound intelligent.

Right now, to me, the sheriff is the most important person in government. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-08   21:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ferret Mike, mcgowanjm (#3)

This Congresswoman angered

This Congresswoman angered Daily Kos and Nancy Pelosi. They need to be thoroughly investigated! Those leftwingnuts are a danger to civilized America!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-08   21:26:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ibluafartsky (#7)

Pukon, what's up; Plasma?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   21:28:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Ferret Mike (#3)

We should have a separate national movement to send money and people to that state to unseat any criminals the Tea Terrorists helped put into power there.

Don't get me wrong. AZ is a beautiful state and the Pima Co Sheriff did sound intelligent.

Right now, to me, the sheriff is the most important person in government. ;}

From a Brian S Post:

"But critics of Sarah Palin have already drawn a link between the shooting and the fact that the former Alaska governor put Giffords on a "target list" of lawmakers Palin wanted to see unseated in the midterm elections.

In March, Palin released a map featuring 20 House Democrats that used crosshairs images to show their districts. (You can see it here.) Critics suggested at the time that she was inciting violence by using the crosshairs imagery and for later writing on Twitter to her supporters, "'Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!'"

"We're paying particular attention to those House members who voted in favor of Obamacare and represent districts that Senator John McCain and I carried during the 2008 election," Palin wrote when she released the target list."

With the USbpEcocide, Drill, Baby, Drill, and now this, Palin should be re thinking her political career.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-08   21:29:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ferret Mike (#8)

He's looking for Mad Dog. The crazy just isn't the same at LP without him.

“Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.” - Sarah Palin

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-01-08   21:31:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ferret Mike (#5)

Look. The shooter is a far left fanatic. Period. He wasn't influenced by the right-wing talk radio. Or the Tea Party. This guys influences were the Communist manifesto, Mein Kampf and a weird obsession with grammar. He was a flag burner and comes across as an anarchist. Deal with it.

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-08   21:33:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: mcgowanjm (#9)

When this Tea Terrorist pulled the trigger on his semiautomatic pistol, he also attacked American government, the American public and its right to assemble peacefully and without fear. So in effect his assault was also an assault on American democracy.

Palin and her list are going to experience a whirlwind of backlash the next few months. This event will put the cherry on the loss of popularity and support this former Half term governor has experience over the past few months.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   21:33:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ferret Mike, mcgoon (#8)

Pukon, what's up; Plasma?

WTF are you babbling about now, weasel? Why are you ignoring the Daily Kos targeting of Giffords? How about her vote against Pelosi? Liberal lunatics are those that are in dire need of being investigated.

You're becoming as freaky as that asshole idiot, mcgoon!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-08   21:36:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Rudgear (#11)

Look. The shooter is a far left fanatic. Period.

So why did he target a Democrat Congresswoman? Seems to me a far left fanatic would have gone for someone on the other side.

I wouldn't get all wrapped up in this theory if I were you. A lot of what happened doesn't make any sense, so I think there's more to come.

“Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.” - Sarah Palin

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-01-08   21:36:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Ibluafartsky (#13)

Actually, you are a buffoon who only whimpers childish insults.

You deserve no more seriousness about you than you give to others.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   21:39:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Skip Intro (#14)

So why did he target a Democrat Congresswoman?

You tell me. She doesn't seem to be popular with some leftist circles. Everything coming out about the guy is classic moral relativism straight out of the left.

These are his statements, among others:

"The Communist Manifesto" and Hitler's "Mein Kampf" were among the favorite reading materials of Jared Lee Loughner, the suspected gunmen in today's fatal shooting that reportedly left six dead and gravely injured a U.S. congresswoman.

Lougher, 22, listed those tomes among his favorites on his YouTube channel, in which he wrote that "conscience dreams" were a "great study" at his college, Pima Community College.

One user on Twitter, Caitie Parker, wrote she went to high school, college and was in a band with the gunman. She said she hadn't seen him since 2007.

Parker wrote of Lougher, "As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal and oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy."

She also described him as "more left."

Lougher also left a trail of bold political statements.

On his now deleted MySpace page, Lougher wrote a series of disjointed rants, including:

*"If there's no flag in the Constitution, then the flag in the film is unknown. There's no flag in the Constitution. Therefore, the flag in the film is unknown. Burn every new and old flag that you see. Burn your flag!"

*"I bet you can imagine this in your mind with a faster speed. Watch this protest in reverse! Ask the local police, 'What's your illegal activity on duty?'"

*"If you protest the government, then there's a new government from protesting. There's not a new government from protesting. Thus, you aren't protesting the government."

Three months ago, Lougher made a YouTube video in which he proclaimed, "I know you're illiterate! This is the greatest protest for exposure into a wrongful act. The school is breaking the Constitution. If you watch the video then you'll understand. The teachers are taking advantage of you in the First and Fifth Amendment. The United States Constitution, which is the law, can be broken at this school."

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-08   21:43:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Ferret Mike, mcgoon, skidmark, All liberal assholes (#15)

Actually...

I detest and despise the ground you leftist, slimy bastards slither over. You and your ilk are nothing but wasters of oxygen.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-08   21:45:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Skip Intro, Rudgear (#14)

So why did he target a Democrat Congresswoman?

Why did Daily Kos you ignorant asshole?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-08   21:46:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Rudgear (#16)

So do you think he intentionally went looking for her, or was it just a crime of opportunity?

Also, don't you think the guy was an awfully good shot to be able to kill and wound so many people with so few shots?

“Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.” - Sarah Palin

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-01-08   21:47:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Rudgear (#11)

Look. The shooter is a far left fanatic. Period. He wasn't influenced by the right-wing talk radio. Or the Tea Party. This guys influences were the Communist manifesto, Mein Kampf and a weird obsession with grammar.

You seem to know him pretty well.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2011-01-08   21:49:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: lucysmom (#20)

You seem to know him pretty well.

It's desperation time, especially if it turns out the shooter wasn't alone.

“Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.” - Sarah Palin

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-01-08   21:51:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Rudgear (#4) (Edited)

Now you advocate overturning election results. There is no place in a representative democracy for intolerant people like you. You and your fellow leftists are disgusting exploiting the shooting to further your extreme views regarding the Tea Party.

Republican Senate Nominee for Nevada, Sharon Angle:

You know, our Founding Fathers, they put that Second Amendment in there for a good reason and that was for the people to protect themselves against a tyrannical government. And in fact Thomas Jefferson said it's good for a country to have a revolution every 20 years.

I hope that's not where we're going, but, you know, if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out.

And we are supposed to surprised when people start shooting at Democrats?

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-01-08   21:55:36 ET  (8 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Ferret Mike (#12)

Palin and her list are going to experience a whirlwind of backlash the next few months. This event will put the cherry on the loss of popularity and support this former Half term governor has experience over the past few months.

" Of course it's a scam -- a childishly transparent scam to anyone standing outside of it. And of course it's incredibly destructive. So is selling meth. So is cranking out propaganda denying global climate change. So what? Working for evil will always pay better than teaching school or feeding the poor, and those at the bottom of the Ponzi scheme will always end up getting fucked, but so what? As long as the wingnut proles have have their one-size-fits-all scapegoats, they will never rise up, and as long as the hundreds of thousands of Inner Party stooges continue to swim in an open sewer of Frank Luntz/AEI/Karl Rove talking points that they willingly eat, drink, shit and regurgitate, they will continue to lack even the basic vocabulary necessary to understand the evil which they so eagerly serve."

-driftglass.

Well said. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-08   22:01:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: All (#23)

You and your fellow leftists are disgusting exploiting the shooting to further your extreme views regarding the Tea Party.

See 9/11 for details on exploiting.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-08   22:02:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: go65 (#22)

You know, our Founding Fathers, they put that Second Amendment in there for a good reason and that was for the people to protect themselves against a tyrannical government.

Are we supposed to pretend that doesn't mean what it says?

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2011-01-08   22:20:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: go65, Rudgear (#22)

And we are supposed to surprised when people start shooting at Democrats?

Are we supposed to be surprised that Daily Kos and liberal assholes targeted a bluedog democrat? http://www. dailykos.com/story/2008/6/25/1204/74882/511/541568

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-08   22:23:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Ibluafartsky (#26)

Good luck getting them to face reality.

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-08   22:25:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Ibluafartsky (#17)

That little anti-American s**t who climbs trees and plays with rodents is (will he ever grow up?) totally ignoring the fact that this scumbag has NOTHING to do with Tea Party politics.

He'll be eating crow tomorrow, if he didn't believe that stepping on a blade of grass was tantamount to murder --- vegan sissy --- LOLAF!

Sleepy Floyd  posted on  2011-01-08   22:27:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Rudgear (#27)

Good luck getting them to face reality.

I'm going to hammer the hypocritical assholes mercilessly!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-08   22:27:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Sleepy Floyd, weasel (#28)

He'll be eating crow tomorrow,

The weasel spews bullshit constantly!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-08   22:29:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Ibluafartsky (#29)

"I'm going to hammer the hypocritical assholes mercilessly!"

You are getting flustered, buttercup. You mean, UNmercifully. Dummy.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   22:31:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Ibluafartsky (#30)

"The weasel spews bullshit constantly!.....

......Spews Yukie.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   22:32:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Ferret Mike (#31)

You mean, UNmercifully. Dummy.

No ignorant asshole, mercilessly. Buy a fookin clue or learn to use a dictionary.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-08   22:41:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Ibluafartsky (#33)

If you can't get a clue, buy a vowel.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   22:42:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Ibluafartsky (#30)

Come on, one liner whiner, you are getting slow in doing your baiting.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   22:43:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Ferret Mike (#34)

buy a vowel.

Buy a fookin clue or learn to use a dictionary, moron!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-08   22:46:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Ibluafartsky (#36)

Clue a fucking buy, or dictionary a use; freaking maroon.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   22:48:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Ferret Mike (#37)

Clue a fucking buy, or dictionary a use; freaking maroon.

Were you always a dumbshit or was the fall the cause, asshole?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-08   22:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Ibluafartsky (#38)

Were you always? or always were you?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   22:56:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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