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Title: Dupnik: Giffords Gunman Might Have Accomplice
Source: Arizona Daily Star
URL Source: http://azstarnet.com/news/local/cri ... 8e-11e0-ab28-001cc4c002e0.html
Published: Jan 8, 2011
Author: Arizona Daily Star,
Post Date: 2011-01-08 20:57:44 by Brian S
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Comments: 39

Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said Saturday evening that the man linked to the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and others might have an accomplice.

"We are not convinced he acted alone," Dupnik said at a news conference.

Dupnik said investigators have reason to believe the 22-year-old suspect whom he would not name came to the scene with someone else. "We have photos," Dupnik said of the gunman's companion.

Nate T. Gray, of the FBI, referred to bringing "those responsible" to justice.

Six people have now died in the attack, said Gray, who is in charge of the FBI office in Phoenix. Five people died at the scene and a 9-year-old girl died at a hospital, said Dupnik.

There was no security at the event, a meet-and-greet outside a Safeway on the northwest side, Gray said. In all, 19 people were shot or injured, Dupnik said.

Two of the people who were wounded have not been identified by authorities, he said.

The surgeon is "cautiously optimistic" that Giffords "may survive," Dupnik said.

Federal Judge John Roll went to mass at Tucson's cathedral, as he did every Saturday, and on his way home decided to stop and say ‘hi' to Giffords, his friend, Dupnik said.

"He was at the wrong place at the wrong time," Dupnik said.

Dupnik called two people who tackled the gunman "were brave individuals, noting that the semi-automatic pistol still had ammunition when the gunman was taken into sheriff's custody.

He said the gunman was a subject of, "some police interest in the recent past," and he has made death threats in the past, but not toward Giffords. There was no reason to worry about the Giffords event in advance, he said. The attack started at 10:10 a.m. amid a crowd of about two dozen people.

The gunman might have planned to shoot himself, Dupnik told reporters.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Right wing terror in action. I would say that if Homeland Security needs to crack down on anyone, it's the Tea Terrorists.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   21:01:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ferret Mike (#1)

Right wing terror in action. I would say that if Homeland Security needs to crack down on anyone, it's the Tea Terrorists.

Arizona. Now the capitol of crazy.

"The one thing that leaps out about Jared Lee Loughner is that he did an enormous amount of damage in a short time with just a pistol."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-01-08   21:09:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: mcgowanjm (#2) (Edited)

"Arizona. Now the capitol of crazy."

It is one screwed up state. This Congresswoman angered the Tea Terror cells of this state because she got in the way of a GOP sweep. It's not hard to see who wanted her dead, and anyone who supported her intimidated.

It's time for more Democrats to represent that party in Congress. We should have a separate national movement to send money and people to that state to unseat any criminals the Tea Terrorists helped put into power there.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   21:14:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ferret Mike (#3)

We should have a separate national movement to send money and people to that state to unseat any criminals the Tea Terrorists helped put into power there.

Now you advocate overturning election results. There is no place in a representative democracy for intolerant people like you. You and your fellow leftists are disgusting exploiting the shooting to further your extreme views regarding the Tea Party.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-08   21:17:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Rudgear (#4)

"Now you advocate overturning election results."

Much like the whiners in the GOP side of the House are trying to overturn the fruit of the election result of President Obama's landslide.

The silly thing about you Rud is you don't respect election results that go against you.

The Obama birfer movement was a thinly veiled metaphor that tapped latent racism in the right in this country. In fact, the stable of radical right wing wing nuts in the past few elections have been wedge issues like the bullshit Swift boat crap and all other trumped up games that used negative emotion and hatred to try to work past the process to get a result that is more like what is the fruit of a lynch party.

There will be an election result you will choke on in two years; the one that puts an end to the game the Tea Terrorists are playing now.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   21:25:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ferret Mike (#5)

Look. The shooter is a far left fanatic. Period. He wasn't influenced by the right-wing talk radio. Or the Tea Party. This guys influences were the Communist manifesto, Mein Kampf and a weird obsession with grammar. He was a flag burner and comes across as an anarchist. Deal with it.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-08   21:33:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Rudgear (#11)

Look. The shooter is a far left fanatic. Period.

So why did he target a Democrat Congresswoman? Seems to me a far left fanatic would have gone for someone on the other side.

I wouldn't get all wrapped up in this theory if I were you. A lot of what happened doesn't make any sense, so I think there's more to come.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-01-08   21:36:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Skip Intro (#14)

So why did he target a Democrat Congresswoman?

You tell me. She doesn't seem to be popular with some leftist circles. Everything coming out about the guy is classic moral relativism straight out of the left.

These are his statements, among others:

"The Communist Manifesto" and Hitler's "Mein Kampf" were among the favorite reading materials of Jared Lee Loughner, the suspected gunmen in today's fatal shooting that reportedly left six dead and gravely injured a U.S. congresswoman.

Lougher, 22, listed those tomes among his favorites on his YouTube channel, in which he wrote that "conscience dreams" were a "great study" at his college, Pima Community College.

One user on Twitter, Caitie Parker, wrote she went to high school, college and was in a band with the gunman. She said she hadn't seen him since 2007.

Parker wrote of Lougher, "As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal and oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy."

She also described him as "more left."

Lougher also left a trail of bold political statements.

On his now deleted MySpace page, Lougher wrote a series of disjointed rants, including:

*"If there's no flag in the Constitution, then the flag in the film is unknown. There's no flag in the Constitution. Therefore, the flag in the film is unknown. Burn every new and old flag that you see. Burn your flag!"

*"I bet you can imagine this in your mind with a faster speed. Watch this protest in reverse! Ask the local police, 'What's your illegal activity on duty?'"

*"If you protest the government, then there's a new government from protesting. There's not a new government from protesting. Thus, you aren't protesting the government."

Three months ago, Lougher made a YouTube video in which he proclaimed, "I know you're illiterate! This is the greatest protest for exposure into a wrongful act. The school is breaking the Constitution. If you watch the video then you'll understand. The teachers are taking advantage of you in the First and Fifth Amendment. The United States Constitution, which is the law, can be broken at this school."

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-08   21:43:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#19. To: Rudgear (#16)

So do you think he intentionally went looking for her, or was it just a crime of opportunity?

Also, don't you think the guy was an awfully good shot to be able to kill and wound so many people with so few shots?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-01-08 21:47:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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