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Title: Ariz. Congresswoman Giffords shot; Dad: 'Entire tea party' her enemy
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URL Source: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nation ... rRHy5OWGSRKnuK8J#ixzz1ATapcbLU
Published: Jan 8, 2011
Author: KATHIANNE BONIELLO and CANDICE M. GIOVE
Post Date: 2011-01-08 16:10:39 by Skip Intro
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Ariz. Congresswoman Giffords shot; Dad: 'Entire tea party' her enemy Arizona Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was clinging to life after a gunman shot her in the head in front of an Arizona grocery store where she was holding a public event, authorities said. The three-term Democrat, who might have been shot at point blank range, was airlifted to University Medical Center in Tuscon where she was undergoing surgery, Reuters reported. Nine others, including a child, also seriously injured in the bloody shooting spree were also being treated there, according to reports. President Barack Obama said some are dead and Giffords was "gravely wounded." He called the shooting "an unspeakable tragedy" and that such "a senseless and terrible act of violence has no place in a free society. The congresswoman’s father Spencer Gifford, 75, was rushing to the hospital when asked if his 40-year-old daughter had any enemies. "Yeah," he told The Post. "The whole tea party." He added that politicians constantly faced danger. "They always get threat[ened]," Gifford cried. "We don’t really have any information. The Police department was supposed to call us but they didn’t." The congresswoman was chatting up a couple during her first "Congress in Your Corner" event at the Tuscon Safeway when the maniacal gunman fired a fusillade of bullets at the crowd, reports said. Giffords had excitedly promoted her event on Twitter. "My 1st Congress on Your Corner starts now," she wrote. "Please stop by to let me know what is on your mind or tweet me later." The gun-toting event crasher was tackled by a bystander and was taken into police custody, reports said. "I am horrified by the senseless attack on Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and members of her staff," House Speaker John Boehner said in statement. "An attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve. Acts and threats of violence against public officials have no place in our society. Our prayers are with Congresswoman Giffords, her staff, all who were injured, and their families. This is a sad day for our country." The 40-year-old representative, who held her seat since 2007, held strong positions on immigration – a Arizona flashpoint issue. It is yet unclear what motivated the shooter. Like many other democrats, Giffords was threatened after the passage of health care reform in March, when the door to her Tuscon office had been smashed.The congresswoman, who held her seat since 2007, was married to U.S. astronaut Mark Kelly. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/ariz_congresswoman_shot_in_head_YFTvsurRHy5OWGSRKnuK8J#ixzz1ATqCjY4S
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#20. To: Ferret Mike (#18)
Don't leave out the crazy birthers and Orly Taitz, who are still drumming up all the hate they can muster against Obama. Something about a black guy being elected president has sent a lot of borderline cases completely over the edge. Having Talk Radio going at it 24/7 doesn't help, either.
“Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.” - Sarah Palin
Typically, those who get to be the patsy has elements to them that are there to try to deflect the blame from those planning and executing an act of terror like this. I have no doubt lots of Tea terrorists are involved, and that we will see the primary planners of this terror turn up to be from that camp.
You may have no doubt, but you have no proof. You hate anyone who doesn't think like you.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
The proof will develope, and you can't put me on the defensive that way when I go out of my way to be civil with righties. I only tighten down when I start getting hate.
No it won't. Despite all the fervent wishing and hating you can muster. The guy was a rabid lefty. Accept it. Own it and deal with it.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Yeah, I've looked the at Bizarro land of rightwing websites where there are assertions that Loughner was a lefty, based on nothing more than the books he listed on his Myspace account or comments he allegedly made on incoherent Youtube videos or tweets from an alleged former classmate who said he was a leftist in 2007 Much of which could also easily be used to assert that his rampage was motivated by rightwing tendencies. I smell your fear, and dread as you vainly try to spin away from the obvious. But it is a no sale to me and many others.
Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp, Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver's Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno. Yeah, wow; that sure is a definite reading list only a leftie would love. (sic) I can't get over how stupid your spin that this guy was a leftie is on this supposed evidence.
Not too many Tea Partiers read the Communist Manifesto or burn the flag or read Mein Kampf, and Animal Farm is just ex commie George Orwell ratting out his former friend's plans for the west.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
This was released because there was speculation he had been in the military. None the less, it is those on the right who typically try joining. I would not be surprised if it turns out this guy supported 'Promise Keepers.'
I don't think he could pass the entrance screening. He sounds unhinged.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
It was reported in the L A Times.
“Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.” - Sarah Palin
Lots of people of all political persuasions read that stuff. This line of bull about the reading list only highlights how desperate you are to deflect from where the planning and execution of this terror act came from.
Most Tea Terrorists are.
Most Tea Terrorists are. Daily Kos and liberals are fookin unhinged and dangerous.
I'm not deflecting anything because I don't need to. This is from someone who knew him: One user on Twitter, Caitie Parker, wrote she went to high school, college and was in a band with the gunman. She said she hadn't seen him since 2007. Parker wrote of Lougher, "As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal and oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy." She also described him as "more left." Lougher also left a trail of bold political statements. On his now deleted MySpace page, Lougher wrote a series of disjointed rants, including: *"If there's no flag in the Constitution, then the flag in the film is unknown. There's no flag in the Constitution. Therefore, the flag in the film is unknown. Burn every new and old flag that you see. Burn your flag!" *"I bet you can imagine this in your mind with a faster speed. Watch this protest in reverse! Ask the local police, 'What's your illegal activity on duty?'" *"If you protest the government, then there's a new government from protesting. There's not a new government from protesting. Thus, you aren't protesting the government." Three months ago, Lougher made a YouTube video in which he proclaimed, "I know you're illiterate! This is the greatest protest for exposure into a wrongful act. The school is breaking the Constitution. If you watch the video then you'll understand. The teachers are taking advantage of you in the First and Fifth Amendment. The United States Constitution, which is the law, can be broken at this school." This is what you are trying to deflect from. This will come out and all of those who have tried to liable the innocent will be held accountable in the minds of those who hold the truth in higher regard than party rhetoric.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Giffords had been violently targeted after she voted for healthcare reform; which is why Sarah Palin put crosshairs on her district in campaign literature on her website (a post that has subsequently been scrubbed) Also Gifford's 2010 opponent, Jesse Kelly, once invited his supporters to "shoot a fully automatic M16" to "get on target for victory" and "remove Gabrielle Giffords from office." We also all know that in the past few years it's been rightwing extremists who have most sought to shut down the open political process by disrupting townhall meetings and by indulging in language that casts political opponents as un- American and traitorous. In other words, kid, fart elsewhere. You don't have anything here but a fig leaf of bull shit that won't hide or protect the real source of this act of right wing terror, the tea fleas.
Why do you try to effect a rational tone while posting those two indefensible pictures that paint with a broad brush? Just asking.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
This whole miserable episode was hatched in one leftist circle to attack an unacceptable flavor of Democrat candidate. This is the extreme left lashing out at a moderate Democrat. That's what these tools can't abide.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
It is obvious where the planning for this came from. And generally the least reliable thing about this sort of assassination/assassination attempt is details about the patsy set up as the heavy to take the blame. So why are you so into the indefensible portrait picture you paint of this guy?
That's good. Got any evidence? I'm going to bookmark this in case you're right, or wrong.
“Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.” - Sarah Palin
I'm sure I don't care. It was Left on Left and no amount of spinning is going to change this miserable fact.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
She was violently targeted by Daily Kos and she was one of 19 who voted against Pelosi. Giffords was targeted by anarchist leftwingnut assholes. No amount of leftist spin and bullshit will change that.
*"If there's no flag in the Constitution, then the flag in the film is unknown. There's no flag in the Constitution. Therefore, the flag in the film is unknown. Burn every new and old flag that you see. Burn your flag!" it's pretty obvious the guy was unhinged, but I think the point you are missing is that we've heard a constant drumbeat from the right-wing threatening violence against political "enemies", and now, for some odd reason, they seem to be surprised that someone actually carried out a violent act against a Democrat. Why would they be surprised?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
The sheriff thinks differently. I think I'll take his view over yours. "The sheriff pointed to the vitriolic political rhetoric that has consumed the country as he denounced the shooting that claimed several of his friends as victims, including U.S. District Judge John Roll. The judge attended Mass on Saturday morning like he does every day before stopping by to say hello to his good friend Giffords. "When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous," the sheriff said. "And unfortunately, Arizona I think has become the capital. We have become the mecca for prejudice and bigotry." http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_congresswoman_shot Enjoy your delusion while it lasts, Ruddy. You and your pals are about to enter the world of Big Hurt.
“Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.” - Sarah Palin
LMAO!! If you were a person who cherished liberty, our Constitution, and the America envisioned by our Founding Fathers, and you were confronted by degenerate, anti-American, human scum that wanted to deprive you of your liberty, the law of the land and your Amrican heritage, what would you do?
The majority of citizens in the United States of America have never read the United States of America's Constitution. You don't have to accept the federalist laws. Nonetheless, read the United States of America's Constitution to apprehend all of the current treasonous laws. You're literate, listener? the above writings were posted to the shooter's myspace page - it sounds almost identical to the stuff we hear from mad dog, capitalist eric, boris, and half the other tea-party posters here in LF.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
True enough. But the simple fact that in this particular the person involved was far left and unhinged. Yes the right threatens violence and it does nothing to advance their cause waving vulgar signs. In this case, however, the shooter was not from the right. Those who knew him say he was left of center. The whole flag/constitution is relativist babble that doesn't even seem to be driving toward a point. I included it because it underscores the shallowness of the commenter.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Gee, I guess I'd start trying to murder Congresswomen, judges, and nine year old little girls. Is that the right answer?
“Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.” - Sarah Palin
since when do "far left" people rant about not basing money on gold/silver and say that if people read the constitution they would realize they wouldn't need to follow federalist laws. Maybe Glenn Beck is now "far left" too?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
In conclusion, reading the second United States constitution I can't trust the current government because of the ratifications: the government is implying mind control and brainwash on the people by controlling grammar. No! I won't pay debt with a currency that's not backed by gold and silver! No! I wont trust in God! more rantings fro his myspace page. This is "far left"?
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
You are a shameless liar and you're full of shit! http://www. dailykos.com/story/2008/6/25/1204/74882/511/541568 Who to primary? Well, I'd argue that we can narrow the target list by looking at those Democrats who sold out the Constitution last week. I've bolded members of the Blue Dogs for added emphasis.
Giffords narrowly won her reelection in November over a candidate backed by the Tea Party. She was targeted by Tea Terrorists because of anger over the economic crisis. The once-booming desert state was one of the places hardest hit by America's mortgage meltdown and foreclosure crisis. She was targeted by Tea Terrorists because of rage over policies by Democratic President Barack Obama, namely his healthcare reform passed last year, and the rising national debt -- both issues that rallied conservatives in the last Elections, especially those tied to the Tea Party movement. Conservative rage strong enough to spawn into terrorism has been building in southern Arizona for some time, somewhat around SB 1070, somewhat around healthcare reform. So there is sometime rancor in a caucus. The DU was also angry as heck over Obama's extension of the Bush tax cuts too, but they are still going to support him when he is re-elected in 2012. As I said, you really reaching on a out of context point is amusing, and not worth taking serious. But, you knew that.
Look, the guy was/is a nut. The only questions are who set him to do this, and where the hell did he learn to shoot?
“Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.” - Sarah Palin
Daily Kos and the leftwingnuts and assholes. The evidence is plain as this. http://www. dailykos.com/story/2008/6/25/1204/74882/511/541568 I'm not surprised that you prefer to spin or live in ignorance.
The majority of citizens in the United States of America have never read the United States of America's Constitution. Perhaps. Civics are not taught anymore because those who run the nations education system won't tolerate it. I'm sorry more adults don't take it upon themselves to read it. I'm betting more and more people are reading it these days. You don't have to accept the federalist laws. Federal law or the Federalist papers? Nonetheless, read the United States of America's Constitution to apprehend all of the current treasonous laws. No law can be passed that is in conflict with the US Constitution. Many laws are overturned as unconstitutional. How this is possible is beyond me since all proposed laws are hammered out in committee with an eye to constitutionality. If there are laws passed that commit treason, they are not legal. If this person thinks they are treasonous, it is up to him to prove with the help of a lawyer and not a gut shooting up a Safeway parking lot.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
her office was vandalized last year as well.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
Daily Kos and its asshole supporters should be investigated.
IS DAILY KOS INVOLVED IN ARIZONA MURDERS?
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Yeah, the above quote from that KOS piece of how they called for people to act against certain Democrats in this caucus piece sounds horrible. Not. Who feeds you this shit Yukie? You are a shill who doesn't have the temperament to read the Daily KOS, and you stick to a uniformly applied tactic of ad hom attacks and insults. You are just no one I take serious, and the disparity between your distortion about the KOS piece, and the action it calls for which is quite within the purview of our political process only high lights this fact.
This guy is so pissed he says he'll never vote for her again. Better call this in to the FBI, Ruddy. He obviously did it.
“Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.” - Sarah Palin
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestPalin, Rush, Beck, Coulter and Savage are all responsible for fanning the flames of hate and violence. This is the fruit of their violent, shrill, and hateful rhetoric.
#21. To: Rudgear (#19)
"The shooter was a far left mental case. Accept it and stop spreading sophistry."
#22. To: Ferret Mike (#21)
#23. To: Rudgear (#22)
"You may have no doubt, but you have no proof. You hate anyone who doesn't think like you."
#24. To: Ferret Mike (#23)
#25. To: Rudgear (#24)
#26. To: Rudgear (#24)
Animal Farm,
#27. To: Ferret Mike (#26)
#28. To: Rudgear (#24)
"The army said he applied and was rejected."
#29. To: Ferret Mike (#28)
#30. To: Ferret Mike (#28)
This was released because there was speculation he had been in the military.
#31. To: Rudgear (#27)
#32. To: Rudgear (#29)
"He sounds unhinged."
#33. To: Ferret Mike, Rudgear (#32)
"He sounds unhinged."
#34. To: Ferret Mike (#31)
#35. To: Ibluafartsky (#33)
#36. To: Ferret Mike (#32)
#37. To: Ibluafartsky (#33)
#38. To: Rudgear (#36)
"Why do you try to effect a rational tone while posting those two indefensible pictures that paint with a broad brush? Just asking."
#39. To: Rudgear (#37)
This whole miserable episode was hatched in one leftist circle to attack an unacceptable flavor of Democrat candidate. This is the extreme left lashing out at a moderate Democrat. That's what these tools can't abide.
#40. To: Skip Intro (#39)
#41. To: Ferret Mike (#35)
Giffords had been violently targeted after she voted for healthcare reform;
#42. To: Rudgear (#34)
On his now deleted MySpace page, Lougher wrote a series of disjointed rants, including:
#43. To: Rudgear (#40)
I'm sure I don't care. It was Left on Left and no amount of spinning is going to change this miserable fact.
#44. To: Skip Intro (#4)
Yeah, who knows where people like him get these crazy ideas from.
#45. To: eskimo, skip intro, rudgear (#44)
December 15, 2010:
#46. To: go65 (#42)
#47. To: eskimo (#44)
LMAO!! If you were a person who cherished liberty, our Constitution, and the America envisioned by our Founding Fathers, and you were confronted by degenerate, anti-American, human scum that wanted to deprive you of your liberty, the law of the land and your Amrican heritage, what would you do?
#48. To: Rudgear (#46)
was far left and unhinged
#49. To: Skip Intro (#47)
December 15, 2010:
#50. To: go65 (#42)
we've heard a constant drumbeat from the right-wing threatening violence against political "enemies",
#51. To: Ibluafartsky (#41)
(Edited)
#52. To: go65 (#49)
#53. To: Ferret Mike (#51)
She was targeted by
#54. To: go65 (#45)
#55. To: Ferret Mike (#51)
Conservative rage strong enough to spawn into terrorism has been building in southern Arizona for some time, somewhat around SB 1070, somewhat around healthcare reform.
#56. To: go65, Ferret Mike (#55)
her office was vandalized last year as well.
#57. To: go65 (#48)
#58. To: Ibluafartsky (#53)
"You want to do something? If your local congresscritter is one of the bad apples, start organizing locally. Plug into existing networks or start your own. Begin looking for primary challengers. Do the groundwork. Don't expect help from the local party establishment, they'll close ranks. So tap into alternate infrastructures. Find allies in the progressive movement. If your local shitty Democrat is anti-union, approach the unions. They'd love to send this kind of message. If the Democrat is anti-choice, work with the women's groups. If the Democrat is anti-environment ... you get the idea. If you have access to professional networks and money, start organizing those."
#59. To: Rudgear (#57)
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